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Norway mourns 77 slain a decade ago in extremist attack

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The perpetrator was a right-wing extremist.He misused Christian symbols.

Around the world many who identify as Christian are now more strongly influenced by Qanon shaman, Ex-president 45, perhaps, one of Rupert Murdoch's entertainers like Tucker or Hannity, and perhaps a keyboard warrior from Russia, China, Iran, or Turkey, than they are by traditional teachings. These days the far right are the greatest danger to democracies around the globe.

And as is written on social media these days WWJS about their extremism, violence and hatred.

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None of which has anything to do with influencing this horrific event of.....2011.

But good job getting all of today’s leftist “boogeymen” into the post anyway.

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A very tragic event. Listen yesterday to a survivors story from the island. 19 at the time. So much evil from just one person.

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Around the world many who identify as Christian are now more strongly influenced by Qanon shaman, Ex-president 45, perhaps, one of Rupert Murdoch's entertainers like Tucker or Hannity,

I have to think if Christ returned right now and saw what is being perpetrated in his name his rage at the money lenders in the temple would look like a minor upset compared to the rage he would express at the many charlatans twisting his message to justify willful ignorance, bigotry and wanton discrimination. Doesn't the Christian Bible say something like "the meek shall inherit the Earth" and "easier to thread a camel through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to go to heaven"? The prosperity gospel and the likes of Donald Trump are a full frontal assault on Christ's teachings, at least as how they were once taught to me all those years ago.

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So sad. Where are all the moderate Christians speaking out?

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At the age of 20 he joined the anti-immigration/right-wing Progress Party, and chaired the local Vest Oslo branch of the party's youth organization during 2002. He joined a gun club

The above, data re the terrorist. Anti-immigration plus a dose of gun-nuttery, sounds like he has traits similar to current and other 20th century right wing extremists around the globe.

from; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik

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So sad. Where are all the moderate Christians speaking out?

Good question. The former Reality TV star that so many of them blindly follow has used his forums to shame those who even question the gospels according to him and his media

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PTownsend

Around the world many who identify as Christian are now more strongly influenced by Qanon shaman

Reality check: Breivik is not religious, and there was no Qanon (which most likely is a psy-op operation anyway) around at the time.

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PTownsend

The above, data re the terrorist. Anti-immigration plus a dose of gun-nuttery

Reality check: Breivik is not anti legal immigration, and never expressed particular interest in gun issues.

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Reality check: Breivik is not religious, and there was no Qanon (which most likely is a psy-op operation anyway)

Another conspiracy theory?

What a fascinating world you live in.

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None of which has anything to do with influencing this horrific event of.....2011.

But good job getting all of today’s leftist “boogeymen” into the post anyway.

Typical mentality of conservative gun-loving losers defending their far-right killers

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Oh! Fun fact! Did you know that America’s lax gun laws played a big role in this tragedy too??

The high-capacity magazines used in the massacre on the island are illegal to buy or possess in Norway. So Anders turned to good ol’ Uncle Sam! He purchased the high capacity magazines from an American website, who didn’t bother to check whether or not they were shipping the magazines to a place where they were legal to own.

The reason they didn’t check? They weren’t required to! Isn’t the Second Amendment amazing? So powerful, it’s ability to kill innocent people transcends international boundaries and supersedes foreign laws!

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If you read the indepth analysis of that persons motives.

You realize he was a nobody trying to be somebody.

The Norwegian govt have done the right thing.

Just shut him off.

At the end of the day he is some dude who went onto an island and shot up a load of defenseless kids.

Thinking it was a video game.

He is lucky he is alive.

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Reality check: Breivik is not anti legal immigration, and never expressed particular interest in gun issues.

He published a rambling manifesto on line immediately before bombing a building in Oslo prior to his killing all those kids on Utoeya. The manifesto boils down his idea that liberals are willfully enabling radical Muslims to destroy European civilization. Therefore, liberals must be killed. Breivik never denies committing the crimes, only that they are, in fact, criminal acts. He believes Islamicization is an existential threat to the West and that hunting teenagers at a summer camp and blowing up office workers and pedestrians is the brutal yet necessary beginning of a counterrevolution.

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The high-capacity magazines used in the massacre on the island are illegal to buy or possess in Norway.

Half true. The 30 round rifle mags couldn't be purchased in Norway, but he did buy four 30 round clips for his handgun legally there.

He wasn't a gun nutter. They were simply the tools he used. He also killed eight with a bomb. Would he be called a bomb nutter?

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Would he be called a bomb nutter?

Yes. Yes he would. And you’ll notice that he was able to kill far more people with the guns than the bomb because, unlike a bomb, he has direct control over the guns. He can choose where to aim it, when to pull the trigger, when to reload, when to finish off the wounded etc. Bombs are random. If the US gun site had been required to verify the legality of their own products, the death toll would almost certainly have been less.

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ReynardFox

That's a distinction without a difference.

If the US gun site had been required to verify the legality of their own products, the death toll would almost certainly have been less

How do you figure? He purchased magazines of the same capacity legally in Norway, just for a different type of weapon. You can fire a semi-automatic handgun just as quickly as a semi-automatic rifle. Reloads just as quick, too. Also, easier to conceal, and it's harder to disarm an attacker of a rifle than it is a handgun.

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...also, the bomb injured over 200 people. The guns 32.

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...also, the bomb injured over 200 people. The guns 32.

All that proves is that the bomb was far less efficient at killing people than the gun was. The gun left far fewer survivors for a reason.

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All that proves is that the bomb was far less efficient at killing people than the gun was. The gun left far fewer survivors for a reason.

Two guns and hundreds of bullets. But yeah, right. The Oklahoma City bomb killed 168. The four Yazidi bombs killed 800 total. More pertinent is the fact that he had about 600 unarmed kids trapped on an island for an hour and a half.

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Bombs are random.

There was nothing random about where that bomb was placed. He built the device in a VW van and parked the van in the garage beneath the office building the Norwegian Prime Minister worked in, apparently hoping to kill her.

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Right-wing extremism is as dangerous as religious extremism. Both are stains on humanity.

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Far-left leaning countries such as Norway easily spawn these types of extremists.

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