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New York Times: Trump paid no federal income taxes in 10 of past 15 years

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Why is anyone surprised?

33 ( +38 / -5 )

Trump dismissed the report as “fake news” and said he has paid taxes, though he gave no specifics.

'Fake news'. Once again attacking the free press that questions him, while lauding outlets that help cover and defend his 20,000+ 'intentional misinformations'. An Orwellian admin.

'No specifics'. Once again just his 'word'. Trump is the most dishonest politician in modern history. Nothing he, anyone in his admin, anyone in his Republican rapid response team, and most of supporters say can be believed. Matyroshka dolls.

What all is he trying to hide, and more importantly who else - besides his family and those in his syndicate - around the globe might he be covering for, and even afraid of.

28 ( +32 / -4 )

Nobody should be surprised, really. The man's a flim-flam artist, who's so inept he actually ran a casino into the ground. He's declared bankruptcy more times than Liz Taylor was married, and lies like the Mississippi River flows.

In other words, reality is he's pretty much dead broke and will be living on nothing but his Presidential pension once he's voted out of office, and all of this is nothing more than a desperate attempt by a skint man and his family to try and scam the United States out of getting them back up to 'even.'

28 ( +32 / -4 )

If I voted for Trump in 2016 I would shoot myself for being so stupid. Obviously he didn't want anyone to see his tax returns, lied that he would release them, and now we're back to screaming "hoax, scam, fake news!!". I still believe there is more in his returns which he is desperate to hide, issues which if made public would have disqualified him from even running in 2016.

28 ( +31 / -3 )

Speaking at a news conference at the White House, Trump dismissed the report as “fake news” and said he has paid taxes, though he gave no specifics.

Difference between personal income taxes and corporate one's, but because it's Trump, he thinks they are both one and the same.

I just hope the American people who support him finally wake up and realize he has been playing them for years now!

25 ( +29 / -4 )

That's all he has to say about facts?

"Fake news, biased media, everybody is wrong", except for him and the ones that are with him.

All presidents in the past made their income and taxes public, but not him.

He is above the law, he is the law (or at least he wants to be).

Time that he gets guided out of the White House, he probably won't find the exit by himself!

20 ( +22 / -2 )

From the New York Times:

Mr. Trump’s U.S. payment, after factoring in his losses, was roughly equivalent, in dollars not adjusted for inflation, to another presidential tax bill revealed nearly a half-century before. In 1973, The Providence Journal reported that, after a charitable deduction for donating his presidential papers, Richard M. Nixon had paid $792.81 in 1970 on income of about $200,000.

The leak of Mr. Nixon’s small tax payment caused a precedent-setting uproar: Henceforth, presidents, and presidential candidates, would make their tax returns available for the American people to see.

Link: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.html

How the times have changed - the Republicans will be defending him as a smart businessman for this.

It proves what I've been saying all along though - he's a mediocre businessman, who only gets by because he has money, not because he knows how to create it. If his daddy hadn't given him a handout, he'd never have been anything more than a common con man you see at the bar.

24 ( +28 / -4 )

trump with a small t, hidden his tax records and files from the public and the courts for the obvious reasons.

A Lier and a cheater all the way.

21 ( +23 / -2 )

The trump idiots won't budge. They'll only say he's smart for not paying taxes and that it's all fake news anyways; they'll just spew out what the man-child con artist says.

23 ( +26 / -3 )

This is actually worse than expected for him. He's not a billionaire, he's a fake billionaire. The NYT article is a scathing indictment and presents a the workings of a con man.

21 ( +23 / -2 )

What a piece of work. Make no mistake his sheeple lemmings will excuse and gloss over this.

21 ( +24 / -3 )

Why should he, the poor pay enough to make up for his lack of contributions. That's why they are there isn't it?

15 ( +18 / -3 )

Since his tax information is NOT available, the New York Times has, once again, proven that is willing to provide "fake news". 

Lolz that's not a logical inference.

Only the usual suspects, and haters, are willing to buy what the NYTs is selling.

Lolz Again, Donald could prove this is fake by releasing his tax returns. Why do you think he refused to release them?

20 ( +22 / -2 )

Since his tax information is NOT available, the New York Times has, once again, proven that is willing to provide "fake news". Only the usual suspects, and haters, are willing to buy what the NYTs is selling.

Heh, well I guess we're seeing one of their talking points. "Fake news" they cry, ignoring that the data in the papers is supported by other publicly verifiable information (and more importantly, would have inconsistencies if it were fake).

And that's ignoring the pedigree of the media releasing it. They wouldn't put out a release like this without first fact-checking it and verifying it to be true, because when they got caught for putting out fake info, it would destroy their reputation.

Nope, this one is real. Your snake-oil president has been shown to be incompetent. Exactly as we've been pointing out all along.

Sucks to realize you've been duped I would imagine. Your realize that someone has exposed a lack of critical thinking within you.

24 ( +27 / -3 )

“most, if not all, of the facts appear to be inaccurate.”

Weasel euphemism for 'Trump's hiding his taxes because he needs to be re-elected so he, his family and his fellow 'elite' can continue to have direct access to the nation's treasures and not have to pay taxes on what they've taken. After all, taxes are for the little people, not the 'elite'.

18 ( +21 / -3 )

Trump could dismiss the "fake news" by simply doing what he promised back in 2015 to release his tax returns.

Come on stable genius. Supposedly you have a great memory.

19 ( +22 / -3 )

I just want to say:

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

We told you so. You rubes. You elected an incompetent for president after he tricked you into thinking he wasn't a con-man.

23 ( +27 / -4 )

So trump paid less taxes in a year than I pay in a month!!

I am richer than trump!!!!

23 ( +24 / -1 )

I am sure, trump the honest man he is, will immediately release his taxes to refute the NYT story.

17 ( +20 / -3 )

Well, who'da thunk it? Not to worry though. Like his tremendous Trumpcare plan he keeps promising to reveal "in two weeks", the false "promise keeper" show us his taxes sometime soon, before the end of the year? And Trump cultists who are never short of a ready excuse for their leader will be hoping to hear that Trump's taxes were all paid by the Mexicans. It's now looking increasingly likely that the investigators will have to take a page from the Al Capone playbook to bring the repeat-offending miscreant to justice.

12 ( +15 / -3 )

Trump lied when he said he’d release his tax returns. He later joked that he is running the most transparent administration in history. He now regards anything negative written about his hidden tax returns which he lied about releasing as ‘fake news’.

It is good trolling but pathetically dishonest.

20 ( +23 / -3 )

@Yubaru

I just hope the American people who support him finally wake up and realize he has been playing them for years now!

Wake up? They're eating it up. It's a huge boon for them.

12 ( +13 / -1 )

As much as 2020 has sucked for so many people, Trump is watching his world collapse around him. Anyone he has ever been in contact with has pointed out his incompetence, and now all his blustering has been exposed as being a bunch of hot air and lies.

When all his said and done, he'll leave a legacy of three supreme court judges, with a trail of corruption and lies.

Worse than Nixon. Worst president ever.

18 ( +21 / -3 )

I wonder how long it will take the right to organize their talking points to try to explain how they shyster is actually not incompetent.

17 ( +20 / -3 )

Lock him up!!!

20 ( +23 / -3 )

Nobody should be surprised, really. The man's a flim-flam artist, who's so inept he actually ran a casino into the ground. He's declared bankruptcy more times than Liz Taylor was married, and lies like the Mississippi River flows.

And restructured himself again, thanks to the bankruptcy laws which is the reason why they are there.

In other words, reality is he's pretty much dead broke and will be living on nothing but his Presidential pension once he's voted out of office,

If he is thrown out, but that's what they said in 2016 and Democrats should be concerned when their challenger is in a tight race according to the polls if they are a good measure or indication how this race is shaping up, not good for Biden being so close, not a comfortable margin and let's not forget Trump wrote a NYT (the irony) bestseller book, "The Art of the Comeback" where he talks about his bankruptcies.

scam the United States out of getting them back up to 'even.'

When I look at and drive by minority communities, my heartaches at those people that got scammed by Democrat leadership or lack of it.

-24 ( +4 / -28 )

So he got money from his father and lost it all.

Then he got money from ‘The Apprentice’ and is about to lose it all.

What a great businessman!!!!!

18 ( +21 / -3 )

He has taken tax deductions on personal expenses such as housing, aircraft and $70,000 in haircare.

I think this is the real crime here; You paid $70,000 for your hair to look like that? lol

24 ( +26 / -2 )

he wasn't employed so its not like he's paying income, 

This statement makes no sense, because; A) He was employed and B) He had income. He just offset income with losses, proving he's a really, really bad businessman.

15 ( +18 / -3 )

A fraud is a fraud is a fraud.

This narcissist has fooled most of the people most of the time (not me).

Almost single handedly he has turned The United States of America into Absurdistan and wants 4 more years in the White House to destroyed the country.

We The People of the United States of America deserve better.

Make the USA Sane Again.

16 ( +19 / -3 )

This week taxes, next week Russia, the week after another unsubstantiated rape accusation. The corporations are all in with Beijing Biden.

-30 ( +4 / -34 )

This statement makes no sense, because; A) He was employed and B) He had income. He just offset income with losses, proving he's a really, really bad businessman

So he was employed? by Whom? Your Ideal of business is weird, your acerting that every single person going into a business endeavor is going to be successful, not even discounting the opportunity costs of managing/running/owning assets.

-8 ( +4 / -12 )

In other words, Trump is a dishonest conman. Yeah, I knew that, long before he was made president by the Electoral College.

16 ( +19 / -3 )

So many parallels with the fall of Rome. I can watch history happen, I was there at the start of the Decline. I'm so proud!

14 ( +16 / -2 )

And restructured himself again, thanks to the bankruptcy laws which is the reason why they are there.

Do you actually respect the multiple bankruptcy's that Trump has caused? With all his money and credit from daddy, I'd much rather him to be an upstanding citizen who doesn't depend on bankruptcy as his main MO for business. It's a loser's mentality as well as depending on the idea that failing is his saving grace.

I don't know if you can ever see anything from a non binary POV, at all. But if you support him not paying taxes, repeatedly, you should realize he advocates failure in life. He restructures, only to file bankruptcy, again. It's a pattern of depending on the law to save him.

As an individual, leaving out the left/right bs, which being Republican or Democrat has nothing to do with his multiple bankruptcy's, he is not a role model for young people nor is he an excellent, self made businessman.

If anything, I'd think you would look at Donald Trump for what he is on the negative side as well as what you perceive as his positives. To take a blind eye to this stuff is wrong, man. I don't get why you advocate fleeing taxes because of bankruptcy, again and again, because it's the law. Messed up, dude. Just pure bias for Trump, without pragmatically seeing the real Donald.

12 ( +15 / -3 )

But but but tRump GIves AwaY HiS SalaRY to CHarItY. HE a GooD Seoul. LEave Him Alone.

Just kidding, the dude is a train wreck. He deserves to be impeached once again. Delay the supreme court justice hearing until we figure out what the hell is going on.

10 ( +13 / -3 )

The worst thing is, none of the people who have voted for and will vote for him give a toss that by his tax avoidance/evasion he is stealing from them.

That country's gone down the pan. Build that wall and lock them all inside, and let's not hear any more about them.

13 ( +14 / -1 )

Oh my! $750 US taxes and $300,000 to India and Philippines. Oh my oh my. Make where great again? Har!

16 ( +17 / -1 )

Fitting that this is the same person that called the U.S. military suckers and losers.

By manipulating the system to line his own pockets, in fact he is not contributing that money towards federal programs including the military and other domestic programs.

Rules apply to everyone else but him it seems.

10 ( +12 / -2 )

He’s a liar, a failure and his entire origin story is based on feces.

Based on an unverified NYT (of all the papers in the country they report this) alleged report. Interesting, but not in the least surprised that this alleged story comes out a month before the election.

-19 ( +1 / -20 )

Of course I'm not surprised. One thing he's good at is conning so many of his devoted followers. A wise person once said that you can judge a person by the friends they keep. The only true "friends" Trump has are criminals, people he can pay to hide his true earnings, sexual predators, or those who kiss his behind. I really can't name one intelligent and honest person who he can call his friend. Even some of his own family members hate him.

12 ( +13 / -1 )

YubaruToday 07:45 am JST

Why is anyone surprised?

Well, exactly. Trump's been a crook all his life. The 2018 documentary in the Dirty Money series nails his fraudulent career of financial failure, from real estate in New York to the Atlantic City casino debacle and Trump University.

12 ( +14 / -2 )

This once again highlights why every other US Presidential candidate has released their tax returns - not to see how successful they have been - but to determine their current financial liabilities and who they owe money to...

In this case, while we now know Trump is an abysmal businessman - more importantly, he has almost a half BILLION dollars in outstanding loans that are due soon....

As has been reported, many of Trump's loans come from Russia, funneled through Deutsche Bank - a fact Eric Trump openly admitted in 2014 when he said "We get all the money we need out of Russia"....

With that background, Trump's subservience and deference to Putin becomes much easier to understand...

And makes it that much more obvious that for the past four years, we have had a Russian asset in the White House..

14 ( +16 / -2 )

Looks like Jared isn’t the only one vulnerable to foreign influence. He’s got 400 million in notes coming due and there is no way his business will generate that much free-flow cash.

Hes 3 years from another bankruptcy.

13 ( +14 / -1 )

And makes it that much more obvious that for the past four years, we have had a Russian asset in the White House..

Exactly. A former Navy Seal once said that Trump must be either a coward or complicit. It think he may be a little of both. Which is why he is so cushy with Russia and will allow its agents to conduct bounties against our own soldiers.

9 ( +10 / -1 )

Congrats, Trump supporters! You not only support a corrupt man who is FAILING at keeping his money, it's money he has stolen from you, as you bow down to him.

12 ( +14 / -2 )

His hair is actually worth more than he himself, who is completely worthless. Time to end the experiment of having a fake in the White House. Fake leader, fake businessman, fake President. Fool people once.......

9 ( +10 / -1 )

Congrats, Trump supporters! You not only support a corrupt man who is FAILING at keeping his money, it's money he has stolen from you, as you bow down to him.

I don't think so, of course Trump has money and like every other businessman and Washington establisment politician, they will always come out ahead.

-15 ( +1 / -16 )

Based on an unverified NYT (of all the papers in the country they report this) alleged report. Interesting, but not in the least surprised that this alleged story comes out a month before the election.

Well, there’s a sure way to verify it.

Do what he’s been continually saying he’d do but then blocking at every turn; release the tax info. But you know he won’t willingly because you know this isn’t fake news.

Painted into a corner again, not much else to do than deny deny deny.

10 ( +11 / -1 )

And of course, with this news coming out and with 200,000 Americans dead from COVID-19, what does Trump do? He goes and plays a round of golf for the 298th time during his presidency, much more than Obama did, even though he complained about it so much.

I'm sure the average hardworking American who busts their butt and honestly pays taxes to the government, will not be pleased to hear this news.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

It's always fake when it's news he doesn't like.

As Ghouliani says, he's a 'genius' for finding ways to avoid paying taxes. Sorry, I mean $750 a year.

As the rest of us says, he's a damn criminal.

How anyone can make three casinos go bankrupt, I'll never understand. Casinos are rigged to make a profit.

9 ( +10 / -1 )

so he paid $750 both years? not $748.12 or $751.23? Obviously fake. What about the other 5 years that he did pay according to this fake story, no amounts?

Isnt it a criminal act for anyone who would have access to these to release them the New York Times? Who of course refuse to show the documents to the public, because they dont exist.

-18 ( +2 / -20 )

are you liberals sure this isnt one of these "Amazon doesnt pay taxes" things that you are ok with and that you always explain away as not valid criticism?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/04/amazon-had-to-pay-federal-income-taxes-for-the-first-time-since-2016.html

The main question would be. Ok lets say Trump didnt pay any taxes. Was he supposed to? if so, how much?

Who wrote the tax code? Congress. Of course you can legally challenge anything and dont need to pay until it is resolved, correct?

“It appears that the President has gamed the tax code to his advantage and used legal fights to delay or avoid paying what he owes,”

-16 ( +2 / -18 )

Isnt it a criminal act for anyone who would have access to these to release them the New York Times?

Then tell Bill Barr, not JT posters. Barr has the power to bring down Trump's enemies, not JT posters.

he did pay according to this fake story

Then why doesn't Trump sue for slander? I would. If I were worth like 50 billion dollars that Trump claims to have and a news organization trashed me like that I would sue them to the last penny.

9 ( +9 / -0 )

are you liberals sure this isnt one of these "Amazon doesnt pay taxes" things that you are ok with and that you always explain away as not valid criticism?

? Who said that it's good that Amazon don't pay their taxes? It's appalling and Amazon should be forced to pay much more.

The main question would be. Ok lets say Trump didnt pay any taxes.

I agree, let's say things that are true.

Was he supposed to?

Yes. That's how taxes work.

11 ( +12 / -1 )

are you liberals sure this isnt one of these "Amazon doesnt pay taxes" things that you are ok with and that you always explain away as not valid criticism?

Yeah, we’re sure because we have never said it was okay that amazon doesn’t pay taxes.

The main question would be. Ok lets say Trump didnt pay any taxes. Was he supposed to? if so, how much?

The issue isn’t whether he was supposed to pay taxes, it is whether he has been constantly lying about his wealth. We know it’s highly likely given he literally lies about everything.

11 ( +12 / -1 )

alleged by NY Times. who wont provide the documents they supposedly saw. Because they know its criminal act for them to have and publicize those. But liberals are overjoyed, yet still wont affect the election in any way.

I agree, let's say things that are true.

-18 ( +2 / -20 )

these days all the value is in the allegation.

The retraction comes later and no one even sees it.

-20 ( +0 / -20 )

Just goes to prove he is the smartest cookie in the apple barrel. All the other suckers pay tax...losers.

to be the leader of the world, you need to be da boss.

-13 ( +0 / -13 )

His stealing money from a children’s cancer charity makes perfect sense now.

The man is so poor he has to dip into the charities’ money box.

9 ( +10 / -1 )

His stealing money from a children’s cancer charity makes perfect sense now.

I wish liberals would be equally as fair when it comes to Democrats stealing money, education away from people and children as well and yet, we hear nothing.

The man is so poor he has to dip into the charities’ money box.

No, with all the land and private property and other businesses he owns, lot of equity there and a lot more than all of us JT readers and JT itself put together.

-14 ( +2 / -16 )

alleged by NY Times. who wont provide the documents they supposedly saw. Because they know its criminal act for them to have and publicize those.

You still don't understand journalism.

But liberals are overjoyed, yet still wont affect the election in any way.

Probably not.

6 ( +7 / -1 )

The criminal is done for.

Only the most stubborn, most in denial, most afraid to admit they were wrong about the guy will be worshipping and defending him now.

8 ( +9 / -1 )

I’ve paid more in US taxes than the president of the United States and I don’t even live there.

9 ( +9 / -0 )

Does this qualify for status as the "October Surprise" for the Democrats? I guess that they needed to move it up a couple of days, seeing as how the first Presidential debate is coming soon. Anything to distract people from former VP Biden and his remarkable lack of energy on the campaign trail.

As with most "bombshells", the devil will be in the details. Might I suggest waiting a bit before rushing to judgement based on one story from the Times? So many other bombshells have fallen by the wayside once they are properly investigated I can't help but think this may be another.

-10 ( +1 / -11 )

The criminal is done for.

Only the most stubborn, most in denial, most afraid to admit they were wrong about the guy will be worshipping and defending him now.

If that were the case, then Dems could have gotten him during the impeachment hoax, didn't happen, tried and failed with impeachment, didn't happen they tried everything and now I assume they will try and recycle the Russian narrative again and that will also fail.

-12 ( +1 / -13 )

I wish liberals would be equally as fair when it comes to Democrats stealing money, education away from people and children as well and yet, we hear nothing.

Since liberals do not want to reduce taxes on the rich, want to bring in affordable medicare, I'd say trump fans dont know what they are talking about.

Since they haven't stolen from charities yet, we'll take it up when that happens.

No, with all the land and private property and other businesses he owns, lot of equity there and a lot more than all of us JT readers and JT itself put together.

Yes the businesses which are bleeding money and leveraged to his neck. Bankruptcy is coming soon, I'd give him 6 months at the maximum.

I do feel sorry for his family though, they have to start earning their living soon!!!

9 ( +10 / -1 )

 lot of equity there and a lot more than all of us JT readers and JT itself put together.

Yet he has lost so much that he has paid less taxes in 15 years than what I pay in 2 months!!

Not sure about others on JT but I am richer than trump!!!!

6 ( +8 / -2 )

the story keep shifting back and forth.

haha Trump is broke and has no money -or- Trump is working with Russia and has all their money.

haha Trump is broke -or-. Trump is making huge money from his presidency, selling millions of dollars in Chinese neck ties among many other things.

Which one is it again? hes either broke or he is enriching himself, it cant be both.

-8 ( +1 / -9 )

Also, please note that the Times does NOT have Trump's tax returns. They only have some "data", from an unknown source. I remember a couple years ago when Rachel Maddow was going to drop a similar "bombshell" live on TV, and it was a total dud.

-6 ( +1 / -7 )

Trump wears his guilt on his tongue and his dishonesty and ignorance on his sleeves. Since A+45 likes to be "first" in everything, the Dems should present him with their "October Surprise": a second impeachment. Seriously! There's plenty of time before the election and even more after. The long suffering American people deserve no less because justice matters.

6 ( +7 / -1 )

Some of the other wonder snippets are

trump pays more taxes in India, Philippines and Turkey than he pays in the US.

That's a great America first policy.

His houses are claimed as a business expense.

There's another tax bill coming soon.

He paid Ivanka $ 700,000 as a consulting expense.

He paid Ivanka's hair dresser $ 70,000.

I hope Ivanka was giving consultation on hairstyles!!!

7 ( +8 / -1 )

Lol at this offhand detail in the Times piece: "Nor do [tax records] reveal any previously unreported connections to Russia."

Today we learned from NYT (synopsis from Twitter):

There are no Russian secrets in Trump’s financial records (as previously reported)

Trump is not using the Presidency to enrich himself (as previously reported)

Trump pays more in taxes than Jeff Bezos. (We can change these laws but it will hurt Bezos, so the media is against it.)

Trump taxes ARE under audit (as NYT claims an ongoing dispute (audit) as the reason the taxes have not been paid)

We need to keep draining the swamp for tax reform
-9 ( +1 / -10 )

You know it is not uncommon for many people in business to not pay taxes, many successful business pay very little tax.

Not the competent ones. Look at Obama’s and Bill Clinton’s tax returns. And look how much better they left the country than they got it. Then look at trump, and how the country is falling apart under him.

The only thing Trump is good at is exploiting the system to cover his losses where a poor person would be left to suffer the rest of their lives.

And that’s if it’s even all legit. There’s an awful lot of forgiven debt in there that needs to be examined closely for conflict of interest. Still gotta wonder if Putin has shell companies behind some of that forgiven debt. His taxes will face a very deep and well deserved dive.

Remember how he encouraged the hacking of Hillary’s emails? Karma is a ....

9 ( +11 / -2 )

not in the least surprised that this alleged story comes out a month before the election.

Since they only cover until 2018, someone may have been sitting on them for a year or two even! Well done, this was a great politician stroke right before the debates. Biden will have a field day with this - the shyster is exposed as a snake oil salesman.

8 ( +10 / -2 )

Yes the businesses which are bleeding money and leveraged to his neck.

Hardly and even if that were the case, if Biden can withstand the politics of time, Trump can as well for being in this business a very, very long time.

-9 ( +1 / -10 )

There are no Russian secrets in Trump’s financial records (as previously reported)

No, it’s not been reported. Lots of comments about it on the internet, but never reported by any reputable news agency.

Trump is not using the Presidency to enrich himself (as previously reported)

No, it’s not been reported. Lots of comments about it on the internet, but never reported by any reputable news agency.

But ignoring that, the tax returns do show a number of things that look suspiciously like receipt of funds in order to enrich himself using the presidency. There’s no declaration at all in the article that this doesn’t exist, and it in fact indicates that there are questionable items.

7 ( +10 / -3 )

Another hatchet job.  no direct or verifiable evidence.  Just allegations and anonymous sources.  NYT getting ever more feverish in their desire to try and pin something on DT.

-5 ( +1 / -6 )

I will find it really hilarious once liberals realize the reason Trump had favorable tax conditions was because he was a businessman at that time and fell under the failed Obama stimulus program.

Ahh, that bag of wasted money, give this story another 72 hours and like the rest of the attempted and failed smears by the usuals, this will be in the back mirror as well. Now watch some lib site come out saying they have evidence Trump has a second wife in Moscow, you know it's coming, lol"

-10 ( +1 / -11 )

If this were true......can anyone explain why the IRS did not bring him to court or levy/confiscate his assets for the last 10-15 years.

Is the IRS asleep at the wheel or they are just grossly incompetent.... and only goes after the small fry?

NYT also claimed they had evidence on him colluding with Putin way back in 2017..... amazing.

-8 ( +1 / -9 )

I don't mind someone legally not paying taxes as that is common sense. This shows just how much the overall US tax system needs an overhaul.

-3 ( +1 / -4 )

Stranger, the country is hardly "falling apart" under Trump. Actually, there were 3 years of explosive growth, record low unemployment (especially for minorities), energy independence, trade deals, etc etc etc. The US is even doing better than most other countries in the wake of the China virus as well.

Don't see any evidence to back up this assertion. I get that you don't like the guy, but try to be a bit more accurate.

-5 ( +1 / -6 )

Hardly and even if that were the case,

Did you read the article?????

Trump can as well for being in this business a very, very long time.

What is ironic is that trump ran for President to get publicity and get more money for his failing businesses .

He didn't realize that people would be stupid enough to vote for him.

Now those very people are driving him to another bankruptcy and probably ever more....

5 ( +6 / -1 )

If this were true......can anyone explain why the IRS did not bring him to court or levy/confiscate his assets for the last 10-15 years.

Easy, the last admin. was too busy weaponizing the IRS back in 2012 to take out conservative donors many of them were being audited to take them out of the election cycle, so Lois Lerner did her party and took it very seriously and it took a monumental effort to get that done and it worked for the Dems and around that time, Trump was a Democrat so he was off the hook whatever he did in those days and now how things have changed once he became a conservative. Imagine all the other Dems if they were to come out and support Trump we would be having a field day with the tax issue. lol

-7 ( +1 / -8 )

Now we know for sure, we knew pretty much already before, that Trump hides his taxes like a criminal because he is a criminal. A con man and frankly a joke of a businessman. If trump had taken the hundreds of millions his Dad gave him and just put it in mutual funds he would be rich today instead of bankrupt once again.

The far right folks who donated to the fake wall project headed up by Trumps people will also believe that Trump will release his taxes soon. Rubes to the end they are. Another joke is how the Trump faithful are spinning this story unsuccessfully. The taxes are what they are just like the 200,000 Americans who died from corona because of Trump in his words "is what it is."

Not many people are undecided for the November election which is why Biden's lead is holding steady. But for any of you that are undecided, do you want to vote for a bankrupt businessman in 'huge debt to the Russians and a massive tax cheat to screw things up for another four years? No, you do not for your own sake.

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Easy, the last admin. was too busy weaponizing the IRS back in 2012 to take out conservative donors

This isn't true.

around that time, Trump was a Democrat

Neither is this.

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Somewhere in the United States there is a patriot that has taken a large risk to get this information to the press. Whoever you are, thank you.

November.

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Now we know for sure, we knew pretty much already before, that Trump hides his taxes like a criminal because he is a criminal. 

I remember when Bill Jefferson hid $90K in his freezer he as well as Charlie Rangel thought it was nothing special, now if Trump did that, I mean the guy has a giant gold plated fridge, maybe the Feds might find a stash there. ROFL

Not many people are undecided for the November election which is why Biden's lead is holding steady.

As was Hillary's during this time, she had it in the bag the media was saying, Nate Silver was popping them Champagne bottles and then...oops....

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Except his father DIDN'T give him "hundreds of millions". Trump and his siblings each inherited something like $50 million when Fred Trump passed away. At that time, Trump had also been running his father's real estate company for decades, and building it up too.

Like others have said, give the story a day or two, wait for some "clarifications" from the Times, and watch it fade away like the others.

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> these days all the value is in the allegation.

The retraction comes later and no one even sees it.

Someone sounds bitter that others are using the Trump republican’s strategies.

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This isn't true.

It's very true.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/irs-admits-targeting-conservatives-for-tax-scrutiny-in-2012-election/2013/05/10/3b6a0ada-b987-11e2-92f3-f291801936b8_story.html

And they'll do it again given the chance.

Except his father DIDN'T give him "hundreds of millions". Trump and his siblings each inherited something like $50 million when Fred Trump passed away. At that time, Trump had also been running his father's real estate company for decades, and building it up too.

Like others have said, give the story a day or two, wait for some "clarifications" from the Times, and watch it fade away like the others.

Exactly!

Remember, if you are a Democrat or a liberal and inherit money it's perfectly legal and acceptable and even encouraged, if you are a conservative and inherit money, it's wrong, it's cheating, it's scandalous and it's unethical and should be at the very minimum scrutinized or criminal charges should be brought up.

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Except his father DIDN'T give him "hundreds of millions". 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html

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Easy, the last admin. was too busy weaponizing the IRS back in 2012 to take out conservative donors many of them were being audited to take them out of the election cycle, so Lois Lerner did her party and took it very seriously and it took a monumental effort to get that done and it worked for the Dems and around that time, Trump was a Democrat so he was off the hook whatever he did in those days and now how things have changed once he became a conservative. Imagine all the other Dems if they were to come out and support Trump we would be having a field day with the tax issue. lol

Try again.....

Trump became a Republican in 2016.....Why is there still no IRS court case against him today?

The IRS will pursue whoever to the ends of the earth....immediately... if taxes were never paid. They never fail.... or I must be overestimating the IRS.

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No, it’s not been reported. Lots of comments about it on the internet, but never reported by any reputable news agency.

Politico and even USA Today have articles about Trump supposedly enriching himself with the Presidency and a Dem Congresswoman publicly accused it. WaPo has many articles, one with the title "Trumps businesses are full of dirty Russian money..." Glad these liberal media sources arent reputable to you either.

President Trump is openly enriching himself by encouraging government entities to spend money at his businesses, and foreign entities appear to frequent his business to curry favor with this administration,” said House Oversight and Reform Chairwoman Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y).

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nah just that allegations against Democrats are mentioned as "without evidence", could not have happened and few to no details of the actual allegation are mentioned.

While allegations about Trump are described in minute detail as to what the allegation is, and why it is probable that it happened, but still "without evidence".

Someone sounds bitter that others are using the Trump republican’s strategies.

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Try again.....

Trump became a Republican in 2016.....

Yes and to my point, the NYT knew SOME things about Trump's taxes as well as a lot of the politicians and there were a few on the Democrat side and two you know of and they never uttered a word about any of their shady business dealings as well now with the new allegations of the former VP and his son are coming out and watch the media say to the elephant in the room, what are you talking?

The IRS will pursue whoever to the ends of the earth....immediately... if taxes were never paid. They never fail.... or I must be overestimating the IRS.

Interesting, so in 2012 with an incumbent President, the IRS audited the most powerful conservative donors in the country, all of them that donate to GOP candidates, they couldn't because of the audits and then when the head of the IRS was called to testify, she pleaded the 5th over a dozen times when asked if it was political and not one Democrat donor was audited...interesting.

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ulyssesToday 11:06 am JST

 lot of equity there and a lot more than all of us JT readers and JT itself put together.

Yet he has lost so much that he has paid less taxes in 15 years than what I pay in 2 months!!

Not sure about others on JT but I am richer than trump!!!!

That last line right there , wow that's a big statement got anything to back that claim of largess up ?

Or is it just gusto and bravado ................................yeah thought so.

Endless dribble on here........................

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Okay all you losers. If Trump had done anything wrong and not paid his taxes according to IRS rules he would have suffered the consequences. BTW, how much tax do you think Bill Gates, Warren Buffett and all those billionaires pay every year? Finally, if you think about it, we only pay taxes to give us the illusion that our money is worth something -- remember, the dollar created out of thin air and backed by a promise LOL!!!

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Yeah just more of the haha he's broke, followed immediately by the opposite that he is also enriching himself with the Presidency and allegations about all the money he has supposedly gotten from China and Russia.

it flip flops day to day depending on what narrative is needed.

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what is even more interesting is that Trump was likely not targeted by the Obama IRS back in 2012 only because......he was a Democrat then.

Now that he is "Republican" they are going back to that time to get him. Hilarious hypocrisy.

not one Democrat donor was audited...interesting.

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While allegations about Trump are described in minute detail as to what the allegation is, and why it is probable that it happened, but still "without evidence".

Why is it probable? Because Donald won't release his taxes. He's the only president since Nixon not to. He claims his taxes are under audit, but of course that's not true; Audits don't take a decade to complete an audit, and there's nothing that says you can't release taxes under audit.

If Donald really pays taxes, why won't he prove it?:D

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Even if this is all true ( this IS a NYT report ) the big question is, did he do anything illegal? So far I ain't seen anything on that.

The man doesn't take his $400,000 presidential salary. His policies had the economy on fire, and had trillions being pumped into the economy before the WuFlu hit the world. It's already started to recover even with the Dem lockdowns.

Time to cast my vote. Lessee...

Harris-Biden... guy's been in government 47 years, didn't get dick done... wouldn't have shut down travel from China Jan. 31 as Trump did... voted for the Iraq war that killed and maimed thousands of our troops and cost us $2 trillion... more info coming out on his Russian/Ukraine scandal... Harris' awful prosecutor record... her horrible treatment of Brett Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearings... her idiotic attack on Amy Coney Barrett...

Trump-Pence it is!

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the NYT article actually confirms that there is still ongoing discussion about the amounts of his previous year tax liabilities. Like, an audit.

He claims his taxes are under audit, but of course that's not true; Audits don't take a decade to complete an audit, and there's nothing that says you can't release taxes under audit.

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Me think the ladies doth protest too much.

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the NYT article actually confirms that there is still ongoing discussion about the amounts of his previous year tax liabilities. Like, an audit.

Again, audits don't take a decade, and even if he were under audit, he could easily release them. If hes paying taxes, why won't he prove it? You know why, we all do:D

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Now that he is "Republican" they are going back to that time to get him. Hilarious hypocrisy.

Is it as bad as republican hypocrisy regarding SCOTUS confirmations in an election year?

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this is all true

Yes, that's right

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Why is it probable? Because Donald won't release his taxes.

Look at this thread and look at the liberal hypocrisy meltdown that's driving them insane, maybe that's why. 

Again, audits don't take a decade, and even if he were under audit, he could easily release them. If hes paying taxes, why won't he prove it? You know why, we all do:D

It's interesting to me how No one is calling some of these liberals out to lay out years of taxes going back to 1969, wonder why.....

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also strangely, the 15 years mentioned starts right AFTER his 2005 taxes show he paid $36,142,505 in annual taxes that year. how convenient.

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I still cant believe liberals believe he only paid exactly $750 both years. Exactly, to the penny. same amount both years, huh?

This narrative will also unravel/be discarded in the next 24-48 hours and the retractions will be covered up by talk about how Biden supposedly won the debate. Enjoy your media cycle.

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also strangely, the 15 years mentioned starts right AFTER his 2005 taxes show he paid $36,142,505 in annual taxes that year. how convenient.

Oh no, it's so unfair! If only we could see Donald's taxes we'd know and good and great Donald is, if only he'd release them! I wonder why he won't?Surely he's not under audit 15 years later? Surely he can provide some of those taxes, couldn't he?

Look at this thread and look at the liberal hypocrisy meltdown that's driving them insane, maybe that's why. 

Hypocrisy like complaining about Democrats not releasing tax returns from 1969(whatever you're getting at), whilst simultaneously asserting Donald doesn't have to release his? Is that what you mean by hypocrisy?

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That last line right there , wow that's a big statement got anything to back that claim of largess up ?

Yes, read the article.

Endless dribble on here........................

I can see that.

Better get some help, next 2 months are going to be tough on the trump lovers!!!

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Or is it just gusto and bravado ................................yeah thought so.

When people have conversations with themselves, it's sign of a problem!!!!

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THE biggest liar and MOST unpatriotic person to ever step foot into the Oval Office. This guy is a liar, coward, draft dodger, womanizer, mysogynist, racist, cheat and a total disgrace to the office of the presidency, but he'll still get tens of millions of votes and may get a new 4-year mandate as well. This is where America is heading!

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Hypocrisy like complaining about Democrats not releasing tax returns from 1969(whatever you're getting at), whilst simultaneously asserting Donald doesn't have to release his? Is that what you mean by hypocrisy?

I didn't say that, but these Democrat individuals, these so called politicians are not held to the same scrutiny as conservatives are and WERE really champions about corruption they would thoroughly investigate every single politician in Washington from both sides if they were fair, but they're not, never been so yeah, I don't begrudge the President for not wanting his taxes out. If the Dems don't want to release them or if they MSM don't dig deeper into these people's pockets, Trump shouldn't have to show his taxes either.

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tick tock...

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Trump haters are STILL

We don't hate. Nixon talked about how it's bad to hate people who hate you. We check facts. Also, I would have been fine with a normal Republican other than Trump as President. Yes, I would rather have a ham sandwich than Trump for President. But there are some Republicans I would rather have than Biden as President.

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Paying exactly 750 a year must be a really hard thing to do.

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I didn't say that,

Ah, so you agree; Donald should release his taxes. Great, glad we could agree.

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tick tock..

Yeah, that's being handled by the president since Obama-Biden didn't do anything about it.

THE biggest liar and MOST unpatriotic person to ever step foot into the Oval Office

Obama.

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So now we’re down to “It wasn’t illegal.”?

And tax fraud is highly illegal. Especially when combined with bank fraud.

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So either he's a horrible businessman who doesn't owe taxes or he's just another rich guy using loopholes to get out of paying taxes while the working man makes up the difference.

Either way, Trump fans will firmly have their tongues firmly planted on his boots.

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ulysses

I Read the article but still asking for you to validate and substantiate your claim that you are richer than Trump, but I guess as it was just dribble you can't !

So far that article is just like you claim , unsubstantiated rubbish, there is no prove , the source is undisclosed and there is absolutely nothing in it that could be validated or used in a criminal court, so the article is absolute dribble by people who are trying to stir the pot.

Why won't they disclose their source or the documents to back up their baseless claim ?

By the way Trump pays Tax , doesnt the USA have a sales tax ?

So there fore his statement that he pays tax is factually correct ,

leaves the

liberals tripping once again.

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 you didn't watch the video

A quote is a quote. It's all over Youtube and the news. But yes, it proves that TrumpCare will be cheaper than ObamaCare since TrumpCare uses Mr. Clean which in fact is a lot cheaper than traditional medicine like chemotherapy.

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ulysses 

I Read the article but still asking for you to validate and substantiate your claim that you are richer than Trump, but I guess as it was just dribble you can't !

They say if you read with a calm mind you can understand stuff better. An agitated mind on the other hand........

Why won't they disclose their source or the documents to back up their baseless claim 

Why doesn’t trump release his taxes to disprove it???

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what is even more interesting is that Trump was likely not targeted by the Obama IRS back in 2012 only because......he was a Democrat then.

This just isn't true.

So two decades ago losses is fine for Bezos to keep not paying taxes. But Trump does same?

No, it's bad. I've said before on this forum that Bezos is awful and should pay far more in taxes, only for right wing posters to immediately flip to defending poor put upon Bezos.

Hes the DEVIL, I say. Satan incarnate.

I don't like Trump either, but I think that's a bit much.

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When I look at and drive by minority communities, my heartaches at those people that got scammed by Democrat leadership or lack of it.

yet the last 3 economic collapses 1987 2008 2020 all under a Republican president

The main question would be. Ok lets say Trump didnt pay any taxes. Was he **supposed to? if so, how much?**

if hes losing money then he wouldn't be paying taxes, hes certainly not the business genius he continually states if hes bleeding so much money

hes being audited by the IRS for the 76million tax rebate, he was suppose to sell all his shares in the company in question on condition to receive it, he didnt which is why there is an audit. Also of note this is different to the NY prosecutors going after his taxes also, he inflated assets to get loans and deflated them to cut taxes, both illegal, now his son Eric has been subpoenaed to testify before the election.

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One more example of Trump scamming and playing his supporters....

Brags he's a "genius" businessman - loses money every year....

Pays no tax - his low income supporters do...

Signs a tax bill that lowers tax rates for millionaires and fat cats from 35 to 21% - his supporters (and everyone else) get a temporary cut...

Says China is stealing US jobs - gives jobs to China to make his clothing line...

Says illegals are over-running our country - hires illegals at his properties...

Knows the virus is a "killer" and "like the plague" - holds 19 rallies with no masks or distancing...

And as we've seen here, they just ask for more...

The perfect definition of a cult...

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"Individual No 1's" name is Trump and anyone who believes this pathological liar you can call Chump, like the chump change he's always paid as taxes while his blue-collar cult followers were taken to the cleaners by the IRS. The draft- and tax-dodging grifter will soon be left hanging out to dry by the American electorate who have already long smelled the rancid covfefe.

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By the way Trump pays Tax , doesnt the USA have a sales tax ?

So there fore his statement that he pays tax is factually correct , 

leaves the 

liberals tripping once again.

Lol. Case closed, cut and dried.

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He has all the honesty of a used car salesman.

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Undocumented immigrants pay more in taxes than Trump. They're better for our country than the President is.

Deport Trump.

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Can you imagine being so invested in the lies of Trump's cult, that you still can't admit he is dangerous to democracy and morally, spiritually and financially bankrupt! I haven't stopped laughing all evening. Trouble is a wounded animal is dangerous. I do wonder what he might do as distraction.

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so basically, socialism

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Let's see how Trump supporters will spin this one. Oh, all billionaires do this. Oh, why not include 2005 when he paid millions. Oh, Biden is trash.

750 dollars income tax for a billionaire. It's not even enough salary for a police who he doesn't want defunded, because guess what, he's not even funding one police.

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So, we learn today....

Trump as a businessman has half a billion dollars in debt, mislead his companies with almost all losing money, and many of his employees are out of work...

Trump as President has presided over our highest deficit (debt) in US history, mislead institutions like the DOJ, CDC and DHS, and has the highest US unemployment rate since the Great Depression....

Well, you can at least call him consistent...

7 ( +8 / -1 )

Trump the most socialist president in US history

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Hey Trumpistas, will you continue to excuse absolutely anything he does after Amy Barrett gets confirmed, or will your collective conscience miraculously reappear?

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A vote for Trump is a vote for zero morals and ethics. I guess it says more about his supporters than the man himself.

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A vote for Trump is a vote for zero morals and ethics.

Someone will be here soon to tell us about chickens and colonel sanders.

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And President Trump will not have lost a single vote.

first it not about losing votes its about gaining them , record turnout expected for 2020 and more voters

historically means higher chance of democrat president

that also hold true during the 2018 midterms, the Repubs got slaughtered and Trump lost the house, the womens vote was the deciding factor.

and this was before the markets crash and covid45, take a brave person to place a big bet on Trump this time round. 2020 isnt 2016 many still cant realise that

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This is no surprise - it was always obvious that he paid almost no taxes. The chances that any of this is "fake" is near zero - the detail suggests that the information has been leaked either from the IRS outer from an employee at guys accountants.

While this could be damaging, it will be spun both as fake but also as evidence that Trump is shrewd and that he is the right man to lead a low tax party.

To me it shows that he has no loyalty to his country. He won't fight for it and won't pay for it.

7 ( +8 / -1 )

This is terrible...

perhaps the 25th Amendment is in order...

the day after she becomes Justice Barrett...

sound about right, Trumpistas?

Pence 2020! Hey, at least he’s clean!

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