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New York City braces for fewer cops, more trash as vax deadline looms

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By MICHAEL R. SISAK, MICHELLE L. PRICE and KAREN MATTHEWS

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26% reduction in cops? Headed in the right direction.

Unless you live in New York.

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The Royal Princess is in for an enormous culture shock, I fear...

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Really makes me wonder what is wrong with all these people.

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Great news for people looking for a new job, and who don't believe vaccine conspiracies! More fool the people quitting!

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Not one masked and all the protesters are not vaccinated. Appears that Americans will never be allowed to come visit Japan.

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Mass hysteria and mass stupidity in New York of all places.

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Deterioration of NYC is already ahead of plan. Asians attacked regularly, thanks to deBlasio's CRT propaganda. Women attacked on trains, while onlookers do nothing except record it on their iPhones.

Wonder what it will be like six months from now?

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This is great news for criminals in New York from Monday. Going to be a free for all. My friends in New York told me they have been stocking up on various firearms. They are going to need them.

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Can’t imagine NASA or Goldman Sachs will be looking to sweep up a load of anti-vaxxers.

I’m a man of faith

God-given right

Maybe a future fleecing people as televangelists on the cards?

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Asians attacked regularly, thanks to deBlasio's CRT propaganda

Hows this work?

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... New Yorkers have a right not to be infected by public servants unwilling to get the shots.

Absolutely right. Fire them if they continue to refuse. No problem replacing them: their jobs pay better wages and way better benefits than nearly all the jobs in the private sector.

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When New York goes south, I can see it now, on Fox, every evening for weeks..

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ummm you dont just replace firemen and policemen with people off the street.

sure, you are really concerned with the vaccination status of a fireman as your house is burning down or of a policeman as you are being robbed at gunpoint? cause yeah thats totally rational to think that way.

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including 26% of police personnel, 29% of firefighters and EMS workers and 33% of sanitation workers, according to city data

yet some people claim it is just a few crazy people online. These are low paid public servants, disproportionately people of color.

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“Land of the free”, but you must take a vaccination if the mayor says so.

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with a shortage of nurses and doctors.

Huh? The vaccinated rate of NYC's nurses and doctors is around 95 percent . The problem are people like garbage men.

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Fire-fighting is an extremely important but very dangerous occupation. It's depressing to see so many people who are brave enough to risk their lives every time they go to work refusing a simple vaccination that could save their lives or their families lives.

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umbrellaToday  04:44 pm JST

This is great news for criminals in New York from Monday. Going to be a free for all. My friends in New York told me they have been stocking up on various firearms. 

As holder of a NY pistol permit I find that statement highly questionable. In New York City, which has it's own regulations above and beyond those of NY State, it literally impossible to procure and keep firearms in the City. That is unless your friends are purchasing illegal unregistered firearms.

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 The problem are people like garbage men.

you left out the police and firefighters to intentionally lessen the seriousness of the problem. no?

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"People who refuse to get vaccinated are now a big factor in the continued spread of the virus"

Has this not been proven to be untrue?

Everyone spreads it, the vaccinated have less risk of severe symptoms which takes stress off the medical system.

There is a lot of misinformation from both sides of the arguement going on.

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Pat Lynch, president of the Police Benevolent Association, said the hard deadline “sets the city up for a real crisis.” Andrew Ansbro, president of the Uniformed Firefighters Association, warned longer response times will “be a death sentence to some people.”

Looks like NY will get rid of some trash in the process. These idiots are ready to infect other people, then let them die because of delayed response, all because they failed science in school!!!

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Cops protect themselves and others against criminals with guns and other weapons, firefighters use hoses and trucks and other measures against fires, but they won’t arm themselves against Covid with vaccines. And Covid has killed five times as many cops as guns have. Dumb as.

You know the people protesting are not all unvaccinated right? They are not all Anti-Vaccine..they are Anti-Mandate. Please educate yourself before making statements.

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You know the people protesting are not all unvaccinated right? They are not all Anti-Vaccine..they are Anti-Mandate. Please educate yourself before making statements.

If they are vaccinated, then no problem right?

Glad the ones who got the vaccine educated themselves!!!

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Plus if we really get to the heart of the matter, there are also people who dont really care to be told what to do by Joe Brandon and Bill DeBlasio. They feel they are incompetent, authoritarian and that they have no right under the Constitution to demand unvaccinated people lose their jobs.

So some of this is anti-vaccine, some of this is anti Democratic politicians. Some people wouldnt do anything these type of people tell them to do.

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For many of the protestors, this is a matter of principle. The city government does not have the authourity to order them to have a medical procedure. If anything, this kind of thing should be brought up during collective bargaining as part of their work contract.

They are NOT the crazy anti-vaxxers that some here would like to portray them as. Many pro mandate people get a nice warm feeling when they can feel smug and superior about being smarter than those nasty proles, but the reality is not so simple. The anti mandate folks cannot be simply dismissed as ignorant, stupid, or uninformed.

Again, if you get vaccinated, you have protected yourself. Chance of infection is low, chance of serious illness almost nil. So why worry about other people to the point of destroying their careers? Or running the risk of them deciding to leave for warmer climates (Florida, Texas).

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The NYC police department is so corrupt and are straight up rude to ordinary citizens so they can flex their power. Good riddance.

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@Blacklabel

 you are really concerned with the vaccination status of a fireman as your house is burning down or of a policeman as you are being robbed at gunpoint? 

No, not concerned for the same reasons that when Reagan fired over 11,000 air traffic controllers in one fell swoop in 1981, airplanes didn't fall out of the sky. And air traffic controllers are a lot more skilled than garbage collectors.

Let's see if residents watch helplessly while their houses burn down or if cops don't magically appear the instant a mugger puts a gun in someone's face.

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RobToday  06:26 pm JST

Mandating Emergency Use Authorization "vaccines" is wrong and illegal. These are not laws and have no legal foundation. They should be and will be challenged in a court of law.

They have been and NYC won, so.... legal.

This is a city health mandate, they are city employees. Take a safe and effective vaccine or don’t get paid. Pretty simple. I hardly think the city will crumble around them. Ass 700 rushed to get vaxxed in one day alone, let’s see how long this “stand on principle” lasts.

And.... for cops who have died at nearly 5x the rate of shootings this is particularly nonsensical. “I don’t believe in bullet resistant vests and you can’t make me wear one!” Said no cop ever.

When you are hired to uphold the law, that doesn’t make you above to the law.

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They are NOT the crazy anti-vaxxers that some here would like to portray them as. Many pro mandate people get a nice warm feeling when they can feel smug and superior about being smarter than those nasty proles, but the reality is not so simple. The anti mandate folks cannot be simply dismissed as ignorant, stupid, or uninformed.

Not all of them, but surely you’ve seen the pattern here. Where you find anti-vaccination sentiment, you’ll very often find stolen election hysterics, deep-state paranoia, ‘globalists’, ‘George Soros’, MSM, and as quoted in the article, religious primitivism.

Most of the ‘proles’ are vaccinated. This isn’t a class issue, although I did see vaccine hesitancy is higher among the less educated.

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"People who refuse to get vaccinated are now a big factor in the continued spread of the virus"

Has this not been proven to be untrue?

It has been shown to be correct. The unvaccinated are much more likely to catch covid when exposed and so more likely they will become infected and spread the virus.

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The mandate is illegal. The vaccination is a good choice especially for those at risk due to already poor health conditions (obesity, diabetes, cancer, pulmonary disease, etc.) but it's no magical silver bullet that some purport.

In Ireland, which has ~91% vaccination rate, there is a significant rise in new infections among the vaccinated.

Vaccinated people also contract AND SPREAD the virus at similar rates as unvaccinated.

https://m.theepochtimes.com/vaccinated-people-easily-transmit-covid-19-delta-variant-in-households-uk-study_4074277.html

Those who have already recovered from the virus have natural immunity which is far more robust than those with vaccinated immunity which wanes within 90 days.

Receiving a vaccine with known serious side effects (in some people, often with no previously known health issues) is an unnecessary risk.

The road to perdition is paved with good intentions.

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In NY state you can own pistols and if driving with them they must be broken down and placed on the dashboard. But you cannot enter any of the five boroughs with those guns open or hidden.

NYCity is super strict. You will find yourself on Rivers rather quickly, which is the first jail after being held at a local cell.

Ny Cops are good people in general. I always supported them when I grew up there.

I find it sad that So many Americans are influenced by bogus anti science and fax sites.

Never believe the first site you collect news from or opinions.

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