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NYC police arrest 9th suspect in anti-gay beatings

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I am surprised NYC does not have ALL GAY or ALL LESBIAN or ALL GAY and LESBIAN gangs like they do in San Francisco.

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“He’s innocent of all the charges,” his aunt, Nancy Perez, said in Spanish when reached by phone on Monday night. “He was raised in a loving family.”

Yeah, I'm sure he is. And this perfect angel is in a gang becaaaaause...??

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You never hear about anti-straight beatings, only anti-gay beatings.

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Baseball bat? The guy must have been lubed up for the night already. There is no way that's going in dry. sarge, I agree. A homosexual is not more important than any other victim of a hate crime.

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Vargas-Perez and eight others were accused of robbery, harassment and sexual abuse

Hmmm... beating a gang prospect up for being gay and then being charged with sexual abuse. Not the first time an underlying correlation between being extremely homophobia and have doubts about ones sexual orientation has occured. At any rate, now they are off to the pokey, where I'm sure they'll find their true selves and it won't be as subtle as shoe tapping a shoe in the men's bathroom.

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You never hear about anti-straight beatings, only anti-gay beatings.

And just how many people, do you imagine, are out there getting beat up on account of being straight?

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And this is happening in a state where a Tea Party candidate is calling gays disgusting. I wonder if there is any connection there.

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And this is happening in a state where a Tea Party candidate is calling gays disgusting. I wonder if there is any connection there.

Only if you choose to make such a ridiculous connection. What does a Hispanic gang beating up a prospective member that they discovered might be gay have to do with the tea party, other than an obsession with tying anything evil to their ranks to satisfy your personal political agenda? C'mon. Why not go the full route and blame it on GWB as well.

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Well, Tea party members aren't exactly welcoming of gays now, are they?

And bobbafett, you are a vile, sad person, with little respect for life. And homosexuals are no less important than any other victims of a hate crime.

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Although you're probably right - is there any proof to that other than the liberal media looking for sensationalism? I've seen lots of accusations of racism, issues with sexual preference, etc - but mostly from the press and the left; opponents of the tea party. Unless you're just going strictly by the likely demographic make-up. But the comment above seemed to imply that NY might have a great propensity for an anti-gay stance due to some hazy and ill-founded reference to the tea party. While I don't live in the City, I can say that upstate NY - from what I've seen as a transplanted southerner - has fairly liberal and even progressive ideas about folks being gay these days. The point of view I see most often is a big 'so what?'. Do your thing - I'll do mine and who cares?

The incident above is gang related - what do you expect from a NYC gang? If compassion was on your list, don't bother. To somehow equate that with a general denunciation of NY and the tea party seems more than a stretch.

My wife studied is a sociologist and studied the whole lesbian, gay, bi/transgendered thing and makes a valid point. The guys that so vehemently anti-homosexual are often that way due to some inward psychological issue/problem/misgivings with there own sexuality and view of manhood that seemingly makes them angry. Why else would anyone care? I'm secure in being hetero, but have no issue what-so-ever with people being gay. As long as you're happy in life, what difference does it make - and why should anyone care what someone else does as long as it doesn't hurt them? Human pettiness at it's worst.

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My wife studied is a sociologist and studied the whole lesbian, gay, bi/transgendered thing and makes a valid point. The guys that so vehemently anti-homosexual are often that way due to some inward psychological issue/problem/misgivings with there own sexuality and view of manhood that seemingly makes them angry. Why else would anyone care?

Eh. I think the idea that anyone who hates gays must be, to some degree, a closet case, or otherwise "not comfortable with their sexuality" is highly overplayed.

Really, all you need is an outlook that measures self worth by a standard of "manliness" defined as displays "macho" activity. If this is your worldview, then gays are to be dispised and beating them up is virtous: in doing so you prove your own manliness, where as failing to do so makes you seem weak and unmanly. This is why using "gay" as an epithet is so potent an insult for so many.

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Eh. I think the idea that anyone who hates gays must be, to some degree, a closet case, or otherwise "not comfortable with their sexuality" is highly overplayed.

Maybe - are you a sociologist? They do study such things - I don't. But I don't totally discard this view. For some - too many perhaps - there is a tendency for far too much anger for it simply to be a matter of some perceived manliness. Sure, when you're a kid in the schoolyard calling someone a 'fag' and having a laugh - while not behavior to be condoned - is is perhaps asserting this move to a supposed 'manliness'. But that's different than beating someone with a baseball bat because they're gay. Perhaps it's just gross ignorance, but I hate mimes and clowns - doesn't mean I'd beat one to death with a bat. Well, maybe.

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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the phenominon doesn't exist. Rather that a lot of people jump on it as being the reason behind any and all homophobia, when I don't believe that is the case. I think the "ick factor" (as it's called), religious belief, social conformity pressure, targeting of opportunity, and "honor cultures" all have roles to play as well.

The "unsecure in his masculinity" theory is appealing becasue of its counterintuitive nature (people always love that sort of explainaiton, as it gives them a feeling of possessin knowledge that others do not). Also, there is a bit of an alterior reason for making the accusation: in doing so, you imply that the homophobe is, in some degree, secretly gay, which damages their public masculinity; if that display of masculinity is an important part of their self worth (which presumably it is, if they are attacking gays) then the insult is very effective - whether you actually believe the charge or not.

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And this is happening in a state where a Tea Party candidate is calling gays disgusting. I wonder if there is any connection there.

Probably not, as this is a gang thing but I feel that the increase of anti-gay messages put out by conservative media stars is giving borderline weirdos justification for the anti-gay attacks and bullying that also seem to be increasing - and leading to suicides. Tea Party supporters want to return to the Glorious and America-Way 1950s and this is just one aspect of those times.

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Tea Party supporters want to return to the Glorious and America-Way 1950s and this is just one aspect of those times.

Who wouldnt want to return to the relative safety American cities had in the 50s.

No one in the so-called tea party movement thinks that is possible. Unlike 'progressives' most of them are not utopians.

This unfortunate incident is newsworthy solely because the victim is, among other things, gay. Otherwise, the lib media would have never even bothered hyping it.

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