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New Zealand, France announce bid to stop social media being used to organize terrorism

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Who has this right? France is especially suspicious because macron can take away the rights of yellow vests, who represent most French people. Dangerous.

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This action is just like the barriers on train tracks at stations that are supposed to stop suicides. It doesn't matter what they do, there will always be another way.

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Banning stuff always works.  Now the social media genie is out of the bottle will be awful hard to put it back in.

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Wonder if the bans are across the board or just against group that Macron and Ahern oppose

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Get Tim Cook in on this. It's more important that you can have encrypted messenger apps because you talking about last night's hookup with your bro is more important than two jihadis planning an attack.

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social media platforms are just a tiny bit of the surface visible web, which in turn is a tiny bit of the deep web. the scale and depth of the world wide web has evolved beyond anyone's wildest imaginations possible.

nefarious activities will just be driven to the the dark web regions of the deep web. it will just go on and on, if real world root causes of problems are not addressed.

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Wonder if the bans are across the board or just against group that Macron and Ahern oppose

It's seems almost as if this will only target conservatives and others who go against the globalist narrative. After all, it's easy to paint far right whackos and Trump/Brexit/Yellow Vest supporters with the same broad brush. Certainly the media isn't complicit in that, now is it?

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Im not sure NZ would be pushing against freedom of speech or those kinds of discussions but the uninterrupted live streaming of a horrific attack in easily found social network is a bit of a problem I would think.

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What about Sri Lanka?

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The underlying problem with any censorship measure, the more so where it appears to be being done for a good reason is who is to decide where the line is drawn? Who proscribes the boundaries of what becomes “allowed”. Suddenly it is no longer a freedom of right for the individual, but a permitted activity doled out by those in power.

This highlights the underlying difference between those governments/legal systems based on the Code Napoleon and Roman law, where the underlying starting point is thar power resides in the centre and the individual may do what ever the state allows and the common law based systems wherein anything is legal without reference to a central authority save only that specifically proscribed by law, and only what the letter of the law specifically states.

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Very very dangerous.

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I've read enough about middle east to know that there's little you can do besides being vigilant with border controls and strict chemical control.

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I know that these tech CEOs have money for flights and all, but:

1) who will pay for them to show up? I wouldn't want to take a forced vacation out of pocket.2

2) How much money will New Zealand and France dish out to tech companies to do what they ask? Unfunded mandates are bad and anti-capitalist. It's not cheap to do everything the govts ask.

3) Did the respective leaders even consult parliament let alone wait for a vote before deciding to act? Let's not allow parliaments to go the way of the Roman Senate as merely an advisory body.

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While I understand the sentiment I disagree with the way this seems to be going or they want it to go...…

If this gains traction we WILL lose some of our already decreasing freedoms.

Again I dislike that this idiot streamed his act of terror, haven't watched it, don't intend to, but I think that this did get out is PART of the price we NEED to pay to keep more of our freedom, even though it WILL mean some ugly awful things will happen...…….. mark my words it will be MUCH worse overall if we all start losing more & more of our freedom & THAT is exactly what will happen.

NOT a good thing, as NO ONE is capable to "policing" this so to speak, this could easily get WAY out of hand, in fact this stuff is already happening on youtube etc with very arbitrary bans, people are losing their jobs etc we are heading in a rather bad direction

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Does a ban on Social Media help ? There's been Terrorism before the likes of Facebook, etc, and even before Computers came around. Perhaps even, Social Media helps curtail Terrorism ?

Taking a step back, to the days of Usenet groups... (Social media in the days gone by), there were many dubious "chat" groups available upon various servers - so how is that different from today ?

What constitutes Support of "Terrorism" ?

Where to place ban's - For example, JT puts ban's upon people which appears at times to be down to the personal feeling of the Person supervising the news group at the time.

What happens to banned people - are they then subjected to investigation by the Authorities... over breaking what Laws ? ... and here we come back full circle to the topic being discussed. Indeed, could such restrictions curtail the use of Social media because of the Risks over what you write at the time ?

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I don't use social networks, but perhaps limiting the number of people in each network to, perhaps, 50, would be a first step? This is for the free accounts.

After all, how many friends and family do normal people really want to keep up with?

Paid accounts could allow more, say $1/yr/follower to start. A non-trivial amount. Do we really want millions of followers watching the Kardashians, really?

Clearly, the tech companies don't want this, so expect a flight and sneaky attempts to water any laws down, like they are doing with the California Data Privacy laws right now.

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