Obama's post-Charlottesville message most-liked tweet ever

Ironic that Obama can get away with quoting Mandela considering he attended a racist black nationalist church for nearly two decades. Racism on the Left gets a pass now - unreal. If you aren't color blind you are part of the problem.

Thank you President Obama! Each day Trump and his White Male House are in office your intelligence, grace and leadership are being shown more clearly.

The affection we feel for Obama is reflected in the acceptance of his message on the tragic events in Charlottesville. Obama knew who he was as President and understood the significance of that Office. He respected the role in which he served our country and the world. Respect is a key word. Mutual Respect - by him and for him.

A truly admirable tweet. Contrast it with Trumps and you can see how deplorable the latter man is, and how utterly disgusting. That's why it's so funny he'll go ballistic, as will his Trumpers, over this little bit of truth.

Obama restored dignity to the US following Dubya's unfortunate stewardship. And even GW had more statesman like Presidency than the current incumbent.

He wasn't perfect - the continuing drone attacks, the failure to close down the Guantanamo Bay torture facility etc but compared to what is in place now? No contest.

The affection we feel for Obama is reflected in the acceptance of his message on the tragic events in Charlottesville. 

Sadly Obama was never racially neutral - choosing disparate treatment for Americans in the name of racial justice. Democrats have always used race to further their political interests - Obama was no different. Presidents should be color blind and treat their fellow citizens by the content of their character instead of the color of their skin. Obama always blamed the faceless white strawman for all problems afflicting his community. Now we have Trump and the insanity over Nazi's, White Nationalists, and the alt-Left. All government racism is bad for a society and it's future - even the kind of racism the Left believes is needed to make up for past injustices. Government instigated policies based in racial differences today become the basis for tomorrows grievances. The cycle never ends.

That's why people still love Obama.

Obama always blamed the faceless white strawman for all problems afflicting his community. 

Let's see if you can substantiate that absurd claim with some facts, particularly the always and all parts.

Obama always blamed the faceless white strawman for all problems afflicting his community.

I must have been washing my hair that day. Could you supply link/sources/citation?

@Wolfpack, I'll give you a little help with your research. Below is a speech Obama gave to a black community in Chicago in 2013. Where does he specifically blame a "faceless white strawman" for problems afflicting that community?

“For a lot of young boys and young men in particular, they don’t see an example of Fathers or grandfathers, uncles, who are in a position to support families and be held up in respect. And so that means that this is not just a gun issue; it’s also an issue of the kinds of communities that we’re building.

When a child opens fire on another child, there is a hole in that child’s heart that government can’t fill. Only community and parents and teachers and clergy can fill that hole.”

And if the president had sent out the same tweet it would have gotten the same reaction. Nothing to do with nostalgia for Obama. Even the ACLU admitted in their twitter feed that both sides came prepared for violence. Trump can't get away with quoting Mandela because he is in the position of having to face the issue directly and respond in a concrete way to events as they unfolded.

Now we have Trump and the insanity over Nazi's, White Nationalists, and the alt-Left.

Still with the equating of nazis with ordinary folk who's bravery Trump and co. will never achieve?

The cycle never ends, indeed.

Yet still neither he nor Hillary are President. He can keep his false morality as we remember his support for black nationalist groups and churches.

While his tweet has a positive message that anyone can agree with, it lacks any substance about the issues at hand.

Wonder how he feels about Washington and Jackson now on the removal list. So yes it's both going to end until it is all slave owners regardless of historical significance.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/08/16/jackson-washington-park-protest-presidents-slave-owners/

Thank you President Obama! Each day Trump and his White Male House are in office your intelligence, grace and leadership are being shown more clearly.

Yeah, thank God, those 8 years are behind us and thank God we don't have a time machine.

The affection we feel for Obama is reflected in the acceptance of his message on the tragic events in Charlottesville.

You are kidding yourself! That man would have made things worse, maybe he would have made a more eloquent speech, but his presence would have worsened the situation as well, especially with that I am better than you chin in the air and looking down on you gaze.

Obama knew who he was as President and understood the significance of that Office. He respected the role in which he served our country and the world. Respect is a key word. Mutual Respect - by him and for him.

He was also the embodiment of the Washington establishment and the reason why people wanted a desperate change.

Wonder how he feels about Washington and Jackson now on the removal list.

Wow. One pastor in Chicago has called for this. Ergo, it's a national trend.

that I am better than you chin in the air and looking down on you gaze.

I prefer Trump's humble, self-deprecating, gracious manner.

He was also the embodiment of the Washington establishment

Good one. I thought at the time you derided him for being just an out-of-his-depth community organizer who played golf too much. Or was he both . . . while secretly being an alt-left "black nationalist" communist fascist subversive deep-state dictator?!

Good one. I thought at the time you derided him for being just an out-of-his-depth community organizer who played golf too much. Or was he both . . . while secretly being an alt-left "black nationalist" communist fascist subversive deep-state dictator?!

Pretty much on point, but even a community organizer can find work.

*Let's see if you can substantiate that absurd claim with some facts, particularly the alwaysand all parts*

Obama inserted himself into numerous situations in which he blamed racial discrimination before the facts of the case were known. In nearly every case, it was determined that race was not a factor. The self defense shooting of Michael Brown being the most prominent. Obama falsely blamed racism and then we see the split screen of him pleading for peace while the riots erupted in Ferguson. Does it not bother you that officer Wilson must now fear for his life and is practically unemployable in his chosen profession although even Eric Holder found him innocent of any wrongdoing? I suspect not.

If if you believe in affirmative action discrimination, if you believe in disparate impact theory that uses statistics versus proven acts of discrimination, and if you believe in group based 'social justice' as the means to racial equality as Obama does, then you are denying the humanity of each person because of the color of their skin. That is racism.

Racism will never be the cure for racism. The past 50 years are proof of that self-evident truth. The longer this continues the further race relations will deteriorate. Race conscious policies imposed by government is a means for Dems to gain political power. It is now and has always been so.

Still with the equating of nazis with ordinary folk who's bravery Trump and co. will never achieve?

Not quite. However I have no problem equating a Nazi with a club to a Antifa with a club. You seem to be supporting violence as long as the aggressor supports you political goals. Are you really unable to see that both sides were armed and spoiling for a fight? As dispicable as Nazi's are, in America even their right to protest must be protected. They brought clubs because they knew the far Left would have them - and vice versa. Speech isn't violence. Violence is violence.

What a cruel thing is war: to separate and destroy families and friends, and mar the purest joys and happiness God has granted us in this world; to fill our hearts with hatred instead of love for our neighbors, and to devastate the fair face of this beautiful world.

General Robert E Lee

The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.

George Orwell

General Robert E Lee

Interesting you'd quote Lee. Did you know he was against confederate monuments?

http://www.businessinsider.com/robert-e-lee-opposed-confederate-monuments-2017-8

Sadly Obama was never racially neutral - choosing disparate treatment for Americans in the name of racial justice.

You can't be completely neutral when the situation in question has never been balanced in the first place. Obama's sympathies leaned toward the historically oppressed, while Trump leans toward the group that has always been and continues to be in power.

Democrats have always used race to further their political interests - Obama was no different.

Do you think Trump's hesitance to denounce the likes of David Duke and White Nationalist groups is for anything but political reasons?

Obama always blamed the faceless white strawman for all problems afflicting his community.

I can't think of a single time he did that. And Michael Brown wasn't an isolated case. It happened within the context of Treyvon Martin and Tamir Rice and a pattern of unarmed African Americans getting shot with their shooters getting a slap on the wrist. Come back when the same thing happens regularly for white men, and then we can say racial discrimination is not a factor.

Meanwhile Fox News and right-wing organizations spent 8 years blaming the black strawman in the White House for all problems afflicting the country, and now we have Trump and the insanity over Nazi's, White Nationalists, and the alt-Left.

If you want to lay blame, look to people who can't do anything but criticize when someone tweets an uplifting message during trying times.

This news will probably concern Trump more than anything else going on around the world.

Has he claimed he saw 4 million likes for one of his tweets yet?

Obama, a reminder of what class is.

The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.

George Orwell

So, are you agreeing with tearing down the statues or not? Or, maybe it is just a bland warning.

Using Union statues like Lee's to perpetuate history in an incorrect way is what the Alt-Right is doing.

I prefer accurate history books to an idol that can be and is being misinterpreted by the Alt-Right.

Tearing down a statue of Lee is not changing history.

My recollection previously was that Lee was well respected, but not because of his side of the war but as a man and general. I am actually getting to know Lee better as a result of events over the weekend. His descendant also made some moving statements recently about Lee and that discredited the Alt-Right.

It is amazing that Lee is being perverted by the Alt-Right, but then again, they and Trump aren't the brightest bunch.

So, to fight Trump, the Alt-Right and their use of Lee, people should know who Lee really was.

I am fine with tearing down union statues and replacing state flags that use the confederate flag, and as I said before, replace Jackson on the $20 bill while we are at it. I know Trump loves him because he could have stopped the civil war. . . . , but he was a slave owner and guilty of genocide and biological warfare.

Meanwhile Fox News and right-wing organizations spent 8 years blaming the black strawman in the White House for all problems afflicting the country, and now we have Trump and the insanity over Nazi's, White Nationalists, and the alt-Left.

Actually, that part is true. There is no doubt that Obama was one of the worst presidents since Jimmy Carter, his entire presidency was built on racial divide and for the 8 years he was president, the racial divide grew. The Nazi party has always been in America and nothing new, what happened the other day in VA was a sad tragedy, but to erase a part of history as bad as it was in order to make certain groups feel good is nuts and can lead to something very serious down the road and where does it end? The MSM and the Alt-left have been constantly pouring gasoline on this issue, they don't purposely focus on ANTIFA and the fascist commies that are a problem and also involved in the mayhem, but try to shift the blame primarily to the Nazis ONLY.

And the people watch the media and like a fly drawn to a flame they buy all of it.

Sheep!

Obama inserted himself into numerous situations in which he blamed racial discrimination before the facts of the case were known. In nearly every case, it was determined that race was not a factor.

I'd like to see your statistics on this. It doesn't jibe with the Obama I remember. He did at appropriate times call out the fact that racism exists and needs to be dealt with, but he certainly did not beat people over the head with it. It was always mentioned alongside messages of respect for law enforcement, tolerance of differences, and personal and community responsibility.

In any case, it's not what you said before, which was that *"Obama always blamed the faceless white strawman for all problems afflicting his community."* Are you backpedaling that assertion?

Obama is a true inspiration, a good man.

There is no doubt that Obama was one of the worst presidents since Jimmy Carter

There have been only six presidents including Trump since Jimmy Carter. According to Gallup, of those 5 who've left office, Bush 2 left office with the lowest approval ratings. You know non-partisan historians who think his presidency was successful but you won't give their names.

Obama is in third place after Clinton and Reagan, higher than Bush 1 and Bush 2.

Interesting you'd quote Lee. Did you know he was against confederate monuments

Try agian. Lee said it wasn't "feasible at this time" he never said he opposed it, like you and that wonderful businessinsider web site and some unknown historian makes it out to be. Many of the statues were put up in the 1920's. This perticular one by his great granddaughter. 60 statues have been removed just in the last two years with many more on the books. Just one in the middle of the night in Baltimore. Why? The idiot neonazis have no connection to the honorable Lee. There's a bigger picture here. What happened in Durham is just disgusting to me.

If these communists groups really cared about human rights they should start by burning down Presidential libraries starting with LBJ. Everything else is just bread and circuses.

 for the 8 years he was president, the racial divide grew. 

For the 8 years he was president, the racism grew as a result of people like Trump.

Lee said it wasn't "feasible at this time

Yeah, what a BIG difference. Quite clearly RE Lee realized the divisive nature of the statues.

Many of the statues were put up in the 1920's

You mean when the Klan was at its peak? When Freddy Trump got arrested at a Klan rally? I am sure it was just a coincidence that's when many of the statues went up. Huh

The idiot neonazis have no connection to the honorable Lee.

Lee has no connection to the idiot neonazis, but they have a connection to him.

You mean when the Klan was at its peak? I am sure it was just a coincidence that's when many of the statues went up. Huh

Yeah. No argument there. Horrible part of our history.

Lee has no connection to the idiot neonazis, but they have a connection to him.

Again. No argument.

All I'm trying to ask is where does this statue removal movement stop?

Mmm I love it when you use the same language and talking points as the neo-nazis

I've posted the group names that were involved in the Durham mob incident, the leader was arrested, and belongs to the Workers World Party organization. It's very very clear that some of these groups are communist.

For the 8 years he was president, the racism grew as a result of people like Trump

Let's take a walk down memory lane and hold our noses at the stench of the trash which came from Trump. Here's just one of his rancid tweets:

"Let's take a closer look at that birth certificate. @BarackObama was described in 2003 as being "born in Kenya."

I wonder how many here liked that tweet?

Wow. One pastor in Chicago has called for this. Ergo, it's a national trend.

But I was mocked (and Trump as well) for mentioning this yesterday. It could never happen to George Washington I was assure, as he is a 'good guy' slave owner and one of the Founding Fathers. I was told its nothing about trying to rewrite history simply about getting rid of the 'real' racists. Yet here we are 24 hours later. Who and what is next?

So I guess the 12 of you who downvoted didnt read the article.

He suggested Washington Park could be named after former Mayor Harold Washington, and Jackson Park could be named after civil rights leader Rev. Jesse Jackson or singer Michael Jackson.

Dukes said he’s not trying to erase history. He said black people should be able to decide who is and is not honored in their communities.

Is this privilege only restricted to black people, to decide who is and is not honored in their community? What about white people in a white community? really, Jesse Jackson or MICHAEL Jackson? Oh yeah they have done so much more for America than George Fn Washington.

I thought Obama's tweet is telling us we are all equal and can get along because we arent born racists? Yet the pastor of the church he went to for decades is a follower of  Black liberation theology, which implies in its teachings that that white people ARE born racist. So I doubt Obama even believes his own self serving tweet anyway. Was just a nice and easy thing to say so people could like it on Twitter and show everyone what a 'good person' they are.

. So I doubt Obama even believes his own self serving tweet anyway. Was just a nice and easy thing to say so people could like it on Twitter and show everyone what a 'good person' they are.

So many aspersions on Obama when Trump is the one who constantly fails as a human being.

Why not attack the GHWB or GWB? They were never known for eloquence, but they came out looking like poets compared to the likes of Trump.

Trump was even given a card to tell him what to say. . . .

Face it, Trump is a tone deaf idiot, and Trump will eventually burn anyone who defends or supports him.

Well all I can say is Obama had to disavow Reverend Wright ONE time, then the media said sure thing, ignored all the hateful racial and anti-American rhetoric and moved on. But Trump is only his 5th or 6th disavowal of some groups/people by now.

How many likes something gets on Twitter is pretty irrelevant anyway, could have been 3 million Russians pushing the 'like' button in an act of collusion. So I guess we can move on from this story as Obama/his Twitter comments are now irrelevant as well.

Trump's 'covfefe' tweet is still hands down the funniest, weirdest & most wtf tweet ever though. Also leads 'FAKE NEWS', '3am tweet' and plenty of other sub-categories.

all I can say is Obama had to disavow Reverend Wright ONE time, then the media said sure thing, ignored all the hateful racial and anti-American rhetoric and moved on. But Trump is only his 5th or 6th disavowal of some groups/people by now.

That's because Obama didn't speak, tweet, or act in ways that would make anyone doubt his sincerity in disavowing Wright. The same cannot be said of Trump and his so-called "disavowal" of the alt-right. Remind me again, why are Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller in the White House?

Remind me again, why are Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller in the White House?

Because the man who was elected as President of the United States is allowed to chose who works there.

Oh, sorry are you trying to imply Bannon and Miller are racist too?

That's because Obama didn't speak, tweet, or act in ways that would make anyone doubt his sincerity in disavowing Wright.

yes, because the media never spoke of it again, so he didnt have to talk about it.

Meanwhile liberals are so emboldened by all the everyone's a racist stuff that they are not only destroying statues, they are trying to DIG UP DEAD PEOPLE.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3173456/Vigilante-protesters-start-DIGGING-body-Confederate-general-Nathan-Forrest-KKK-leader-grave.html

However I have no problem equating a Nazi with a club to a Antifa with a club. You seem to be supporting violence as long as the aggressor supports you political goals. Are you really unable to see that both sides were armed and spoiling for a fight? As dispicable as Nazi's are, in America even their right to protest must be protected. They brought clubs because they knew the far Left would have them - and vice versa. Speech isn't violence. Violence is violence.

I suppose the US troops at the Utah Beach landings should have been carrying leaflets to hand out to the nazis, instead of weapons?

There's freedom of speech and then there's hate speech. Imagine a family under siege from torch wielding nazis. A black or Jewish or Muslim family. Their house, surrounded by white supremacists, baying for "blood and soil". Ma or Pa aren't going to turn to one another and say "don't worry; it's only freedom of speech - we'll wait for the President to do something about it".

I'd rather have my friends and neighbours watching out for me.

Violence is vile. No doubt about it. But if it were directed at me, or my loved ones/friends etc? I'd make a stand; futile or not.

That's what the patriotic ordinary citizens were doing. The nazis were threatening the community. The community and its friends stood firm.

The community, this microcosm of America, prevailed.

Trump's 'covfefe' tweet is still hands down the funniest, weirdest & most wtf tweet ever though. Also leads 'FAKE NEWS', '3am tweet' and plenty of other sub-categories.

My personal favourite was his tweet telling his followers to check out a sex-tape of a beauty queen he was having a catfight with.

A GOP candidate advocating the viewing of pornography except the pornography in question didn't exist.

Thank you President Obama for showing us that Twitter can have constructive uses.

Meanwhile liberals are so emboldened by all the everyone's a racist stuff that they are not only destroying statues, they are trying to DIG UP DEAD PEOPLE.

Meanwhile? The story you posted is two years old.

are you trying to imply Bannon and Miller are racist too?

Whether or not they are themselves outright racist, they certainly have made a career out of tapping into other people's racist sentiments. Bannon himself openly boasted about this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3173456/Vigilante-protesters-start-DIGGING-body-Confederate-general-Nathan-Forrest-KKK-leader-grave.html

Yeah; when someone starts linking to the Daily Heil, sorry, Mail; they're on shaky ground.

The Daily Mail who notably supported Mosley. See yesterday's Battle of Cable Street post for more. If it's still there...

Because the man who was elected as President of the United States is allowed to chose who works there.

Oh, sorry are you trying to imply Bannon and Miller are racist too?

Breitbart Bannon is a white nationalist; go figure. Miller is a more layered individual; still not a nice man.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/05/stephen-miller-duke-donald-trump

And is PotUS racist? Hmmm... that whole Birther thing, the Mexican thing, the Muslim thing, the whole discrimination against black people thing...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-racist-examples_us_56d47177e4b03260bf777e83

Oh, sorry are you trying to imply Bannon and Miller are racist too?

As an executive of Breitbart, Steve Bannon himself said, "we’re the platform for the alt-right." The term "alt-right" was coined by a known white supremacist to disguise racism and neo-Nazism. If Bannon and Miller aren't racist, they certainly don't mind pandering to them.

yes, because the media never spoke of it again, so he didnt have to talk about it.

Fox News was pretty persistent about it. It didn't lead to anything relevant or remotely factual though, which is typical for them. They clearly had an effect on your views though. For future reference, false claims don't magically become true no matter how often they're repeated.

The nazis were threatening the community. The community and its friends stood firm.

Except they were only speaking about a statue and other free speech issues and were no threat whatsoever if left alone. But people from outside the community showed up to physically provoke them and police were told to not prevent it. But ok, whatever narrative works.

Except they were only speaking about a statue and other free speech issues and were no threat whatsoever if left alone

They were not only speaking about a statue. Do you honestly bwlieve people traveled from hundreds of miles north with weapons to protest a statue?

https://youtu.be/P54sP0Nlngg

Let's also not forget Kessler has assaulted people before. Earlier this year, actually.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/jason-kessler

I'd like to see your statistics on this. It doesn't jibe with the Obama I remember.

The left often are in a sorta purple haze about it.

He did at appropriate times call out the fact that racism exists and needs to be dealt with, but he certainly did not beat people over the head with it.

But he never tried to deal with it and he often incited some tongue and cheek outlandish remarks like how southerns love to cling to their guns and religion.

It was always mentioned alongside messages of respect for law enforcement, tolerance of differences, and personal and community responsibility.

The majority of the military and law enforcement couldn't stand this guy.

In any case, it's not what you said before, which was that "Obama always blamed the faceless white strawman for all problems afflicting his community." Are you backpedaling that assertion?

Obama is a true inspiration, a good man.

Ok, that's your opinion, but there are millions that don't think so.

Let's also not forget Kessler has assaulted people before. Earlier this year, actually.

Maybe he had a reason to.

But he never tried to deal with it and he often incited some tongue and cheek outlandish remarks like how southerns love to cling to their guns and religion.

Verifications, please?

The majority of the military and law enforcement couldn't stand this guy.

Citations? Links? Sources?

Blacklabel: Except they were only speaking about a statue and other free speech issues and were no threat whatsoever if left alone

Except for how minorities might feel seeing the white hood and robe, a symbol, in their communities, for the murder and torture of their people, and something used to specifically promote fear in non-whites. Their entire existence as an organized group and the things they promote are a threat.

To that end, they could be standing on the corner playing grab ass and our response should be condemnation. They get no free passes, despite your best efforts.

Maybe he had a reason to.

Must notta been a very good reason, cuz he plead guilty. ;)

MrBum: You can't be completely neutral when the situation in question has never been balanced in the first place. 

What situation are you referencing whereby any leader should treat their people differently based on race? You are attempting to justify discrimination today because of racism in the past.

Obama's sympathies leaned toward the historically oppressed

Sympathy for people that were oppressed is noble. Using past discrimination to justify discrimination today is not. You cannot provide justice to former slaves - they are no longer with us. There are people alive today that were subject to Jim Crow. But much like affirmative action, it is hard to prove each case of discrimination although it is well known that it has occurred to millions. Note that there is no moral equivalence between Jim Crow and affirmative action just as there is none between slavery and these two lesser forms of discrimination.

Do you think Trump's hesitance to denounce the likes of David Duke and White Nationalist groups is for anything but political reasons?

I cannot fathom why anyone can take longer than a split second to denounce White nationalists. It certainly cannot help him politically.

I can't think of a single time he did that. And Michael Brown wasn't an isolated case. It happened within the context of Treyvon Martin and Tamir Rice and a pattern of unarmed African Americans getting shot with their shooters getting a slap on the wrist. 

You contradict yourself. Obama pointed to historical racism as the reason for Michael Browns death. That was false and Obama basically stirred up a riot in Ferguson with this false claim. Death, injury and massive property loss was the result.

If you believe that discrimination today is the only remedy for racism yesterday, you should step back and consider that consequences for the future.

Kessler

"He and his buddy came over, they scribbled on my petition and vandalized it. [The victim] didn't want to have a conversation with me … and he called me a name. I felt threatened and I hit him to get him away from me."

That explains why Kessler punched the guy.

Verifications, please?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/apr/14/barackobama.uselections2008

Citations? Links? Sources?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/9/military-morale-plunges-30-plus-points-under-obama/

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2017/01/08/the-obama-era-is-over-here-s-how-the-military-rates-his-legacy/

Must notta been a very good reason, cuz he plead guilty. ;)

Doesn't make you guilty

Doesn't make you guilty

Same thing. Decking a guy cuz he scribbled on your petition and called you a mean name is no justification.

Again, Kessler is clearly a violent thug.

Same thing. Decking a guy cuz he scribbled on your petition and called you a mean name is no justification.

That's exactly the problem with the left, they think if they disagree with you they are allowed to enter your personal space, yell at you and harass you, he may have been guilty, but I would do the same, if anyone didn't like what I said or felt that they could come into my personal space and yelling and spitting and touching me, the outcome would be very bad for that person.

You can disagree, you can have a debate, just don't get too close and we are cool. But the as fascists as the left are, they just can't help themselves, they think they have the absolute right to get in your face.

Again, Kessler is clearly a violent thug.

With good reason.

With good reason

Did he also have a good reason to disobey police orders back in May when he was arrested? ;)

Come on now Bass, defending a wus who swung at a guy for hurting his feewings is getting pretty desperate now ;)

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/9/military-morale-plunges-30-plus-points-under-obama/

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2017/01/08/the-obama-era-is-over-here-s-how-the-military-rates-his-legacy/

So, let me get this straight: There are 1,281,900 active duty military personnel plus 811,000 in active reserve, yet the first link stated that they sent out 70,000 surveys and only got 10,000 back. Are we to believe that the responses of 10,000 people somehow represents the nearly 2,000,000 people in the armed forces?

In the second link, they make the following note: "The survey, conducted from Dec. 16 to 21, elicited responses from 1,664 active-duty troops, with results weighed to make them more representative of the total military population." " . . . results weighed to make them more representative of the total military population," so, we don't really have an accurate number, now do we? Especially when you decide to weigh 1,664 vs nearly 2,000,000.

Looking at these results, the following old saying comes to mind, "Figures don't lie, but liars do figure."

But he never tried to deal with it and he often incited some tongue and cheek outlandish remarks like how southerns love to cling to their guns and religion.

Yes, never and often. He said bad things about "southerns". Obama was a bad man and millions of Americans are glad that those days are behind them.

The majority of the military and law enforcement couldn't stand this guy.

Yup. And they love and respect Trump. It's a proven opinion. My aunt's friend's cousin's coworker is in the military and he says everybody he works for gets down on their knees every day thanking God that Trump is now president. He is that popular.

Ok, that's your opinion, but there are millions that don't think so.

Ok, that's your opinion, but there are millions that do think so.

Obama basically stirred up a riot in Ferguson with this false claim.

Racism obviously doesn't exist in America. It is a leftist trick by leftist black people like Obama to make people feel bad about being white and male and privileged. Obama was bad, and a communist dictator wearing mom jeans playing too much golf and not respecting our military and talking down to people with fancy words over a teleprompter. Bad man! Without Obama, America would have put racial tension to bed. Bad man, Obama.

Yes it was a protest about removing a statue. this is proven by the lawsuit filed by the ACLU which is no friend of conservatives or racists. The city had approved the permit for the protest but in an alternate location away from the statue.

As the purpose was to protest the statue removal that was unacceptable. the lawsuit was filed and the judge agreed they could protest in the area of the statue not the far away area the city initially approved.

Also strangely the place with the largest number of hate groups is actually liberal land California. Including 193 black separatist groups. Interesting but understandable that Obama didn't try to give those people a moral lecture on Twitter.

Yes it was a protest about removing a statue. this is proven by the lawsuit filed by the ACLU which is no friend of conservatives or racists. 

And then quickly disproven by Andrew Kessler and the Neo-Nazis who came from out of state. It was not about a silly statue, hence the 'unite the right' title.

The city had approved the permit for the protest but in an alternate location away from the statue.

And why was that? Why were they approved to protest in another park? Tell the whole story here.

Yes it was a protest about removing a statue

Of a Confederate general. The Confederacy finished over 150 years ago. They lost. They were racist losers. And as we are told by people who respect the heritage of these losers, the rest of us need to get over the past and stop whining about racism.

Irony in big sacks.

I'd like to see your statistics on this. It doesn't jibe with the Obama I remember.

Why bother? Pointless to argue this with Wolfpack. It's a made up narrative he clings to without any real basis in fact and despite repeatedly being given evidence to the contrary. Fake news.

As I said the city didn't want them in the actual park with the statue. So they initially approved them to but said they have to protest somewhere else.

But as the whole point was to protest next to the statue they filed a lawsuit. a judge agreed with their desire to practice freee speech in their desired location not the location Dem government wanted them to be.

Dont the Trump Tower protestors want to protest near Trump Tower? They won't accept being told they have to do it in Central Park. Same thing and it's their right to do so.

And Kessler? He has a lot of Obama and liberal related support in his very recent past that needs looking into.

It's a made up narrative he clings to without any real basis in fact and despite repeatedly being given evidence to the contrary. 

I gave evidence (the Michael Brown shooting). This isn't a matter of statistics that I was for some reason asked to provide. There is also the Cambridge professor and Trayvon Martin cases. In each instance the alleged racism never occurred. Eric Holder tried to prove racism but could not tie such motivations to the crime.

So there is evidence, care to provide any of these supposed evidence to the contrary? I am not asking for statistics just proof that the local crimes that Obama involved himself in were motivated by white racism - the straw man that Obama often circles back to.

Well?

plasticmonkey: Racism obviously doesn't exist in America. It is a leftist trick by leftist black people like Obama to make people feel bad about being white and male and privileged.

Nice sarcasm. I enjoyed reading that.

But no one is arguing that racism doesn't exist. Unfortunately it seems that tribalism is a basic component of human nature. Obama's racialism cannot be excused just because it is directed at society's current out group.

Well?

Like I said a waste of time. If you like you can go back to the posts and specific quotes and transcripts of speeches you were provided at the time and which contradicted what you claimed Obama's positions and statements were on these matters. That told me that you hadn't read them and were simply repeating what Right wing media were telling you to think. So, a waste of time.

bass4funkAug. 17  12:48 pm JST

but to erase a part of history as bad as it was in order to make certain groups feel good is nuts and can lead to something very serious down the road and where does it end?

What meaningless twaddle. Germany doesn't have statues up of Hitler, and we all still remember who he was.

You and your alt-right buddies aren't trying to remember one of America's darkest chapters, you're trying to celebrate it.

Did he also have a good reason to disobey police orders back in May when he was arrested? ;)

Dunno, wasn't there.

Come on now Bass, defending a wus who swung at a guy for hurting his feewings is getting pretty desperate now ;)

Desperation has nothing to do with it, but I wouldn't let anyone get in my face either, I'm not stupid.

Looking at these results, the following old saying comes to mind, "Figures don't lie, but liars do figure."

I was talking about morale, nothing else. The people in the armed forces were mostly very displeased with Obama that was my point.

Ok, that's your opinion, but there are millions that do think so.

Yes and millions that think the opposite.

What meaningless twaddle. Germany doesn't have statues up of Hitler, and we all still remember who he was.

I could care less about Germany. I'm talking about our US culture, good or bad. What another country does is none of my concern.

You and your alt-right buddies aren't trying to remember one of America's darkest chapters, you're trying to celebrate it.

Not like you and your Alt-left folk that are bent on trying to rewrite history because you guys have a tummy ache and don't feel emotionally good about this. Think you guys desperately need a timeout.

bass4funkToday  03:27 am JST

I could care less about Germany. I'm talking about our US culture, good or bad. What another country does is none of my concern.

So you're not concerned with facts that disprove your premise so long as they happen in another country? I mean, I know a lot of people believe in American exceptionalism, but it takes an extremist to believe that America is so exceptional that it doesn't even exist in the same reality as everyone else.

You and your alt-right buddies aren't trying to remember one of America's darkest chapters, you're trying to celebrate it.

Not like you and your Alt-left folk that are bent on trying to rewrite history because you guys have a tummy ache and don't feel emotionally good about this. 

Made-up insult "alt-left"? Check. Repeating a conspiracy theory that's been already disproved? Check. Complete disregard for the discussion moving forward in favor of tossing out childish insults? Check. You've just scored a Breitbart Hat-trick! Congratulations!