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Long overdue

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Obama has asked Congress to rescind it, but the move has been blocked by the Republican leadership.

Republican leadership... now there's an oxymoron.

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The embargo didn't work, let's try American business instead.

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Obama is a brave man. This video makes it look vehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRC9NegSqnE

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Fidel is sztill alive. Robert Kennedy tried to recruit one of Chicago Mafia Mad sam Giancana to assacinate Fidel but Mafia was not. Interested. And Fidel is outliving.

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The embargo didn't work, let's try American business instead.

Sure, once the Castro brothers are out of the picture and on to greener pastures, I am all for it. Can't wait for the reign of this so called president to be over in a few more months

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He ain't THAT brave. This is a president who sends his vice to patch up ties with Bibi abd Isreal. Let's see him make a "historic visit" to mullahs of Iran. Where he'd be kept on thin ice despite obama's good gestures and intentions.

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Hope Cuba restrains from feeding him too much 'peppers.Delicious meals but even their green peppers are cooked hot.

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Obama is great. He's done what many other presidents and congressmen have failed to do. He's made potential allies out of Cuba and Iran. It's more beneficial to have Cuba as an ally than a foe as is obvious in retrospect of the Cold War when the Soviet Union set up shop there. Cuba is a strategic gem for any foe of the USA. It's better to work them and make them an ally. Obama has proven correct the maxim that says it's easier to catch flies with honey than with vinegar. Obama is a chess player while other presidents in the past, and some to come, like maybe Trump, are players of checkers who knock over the board when things don't go their way. "To make peace with an enemy one must work with that enemy, and that enemy becomes one's partner." - Nelson Mandela

Unfortunately, not many politicians want peace. And it's scary to imagine what could unravel once Obama is succeeded.

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The embargo didn't work, let's try American business instead.

China?

Obama is a chess player

Serious delusion here. Wasted more money and lives in Afghanistan than Bush. Arab Spring was a complete disaster. Libyan War was a complete disaster - it's now a failed state and creating huge migrant problems for Europe. Syria/Iraq/ISIS situation is a complete disaster. Was calling ISIS the "JV League" of terrorist groups part of Obama's master chess strategy? Ukraine is a complete disaster. Seriously, I'd love to see you argue that ANY of these things has been a success. Here, I'll challenge you:

Argue that any of his policies in regards to these has been a success: Afghanistan, Arab Spring, Libya, Ukraine, Syria/Iraq/ISIS.

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Fidel, Raul and Barack. . . The Marxist Brothers.

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As long as he doesn't bring McDonalds with him

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@IIIyas

I challenge you: for once to put aside your hatred and FOX rhetoric and recognize that yes, although Obama isn't perfect (what president is?), he's accomplished something really good here. Something we know Bush wouldn't have. And by the way, this thread is about Cuba not those other things. We all know the Bush administration is responsible for the unnecessary wars and casualties in Afghanistan and Iraq which Obama essentially ended. The Arab Spring is for the Arabs to deal with; it was about them deposing oppressive dictatorships; why you think it's not about them but an opportunity for America to be the world police is something I can't understand. The Ukraine is about Russia and the Ukraine. People like you seem more concerned with America showing balls against Russia rather than with the actual people of the Ukraine. ISIS is a result of Bush's unprovoked invasion and removal of Suddam, who never had WMDs. Libya was ruled by a tyrant, but a tyrant who nevertheless didn't bow down to the tyranny of the US. He was killed not as a kind gesture of the US but because he wanted an African currency with which the West would have to buy oil.

I think it's great that Obama didn't charge into everyone's affairs like Clint Eastwood. Yeah, Obama isn't perfect, but imagine how much better he could have been if he didn't have to fight with a diehard racist republican congress every inch of the way.

Have you checked the stock market lately? The employment rate? The crime rate? Education reform? Yeah, Obama increased the national debt, but that was necessary to stimulate an economy destroyed by Bush and Cheney's unchecked military spending.

Anyway this post is about Cuba. And Obama has done good by reestablishing American relations with that country and your negativity just because you hate Obama is unwarranted and inappropriate.

And I'll leave with a good question posed by Bill Maher to the Obama haters regarding the good he's done for America. “We now have a pretty amazing economy.... Republicans always said Obama was a socialist. Does that mean they were wrong about that, or does socialism work?”

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Only radical "Socialismo o muerte" Cubans or Insane Republicans can derail the peace now.

Radicals don't build, they destroy.

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Obama is a brave man.This phone call with Cuba's most beloved comedian makes his trip look as challenging as mine to my in-laws in the wilds of the Kyushu mountains. (Love the exposed electrical wiring - in-laws have that, too.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRC9NegSqnE

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Argue that any of his policies in regards to these has been a success: Afghanistan, Arab Spring, Libya, Ukraine, Syria/Iraq/ISIS.

That is a list of bush disasters mostly there, are you so delusional you cannot remember recent history. You list Iraq and Afghanistan? Wow, the sun rises in the west no doubt for you as well. The Arab Spring was not started by Obama, lets see, who could have started the Arab Spring? Maybe the Arabs? No, that cannot be. It sounds too much like the truth. ISIS? You mean the former Iraq resistance to the Bush illegal and immoral invasion? Even your much loved Trump knows that ISIS comes from the Bush invasion of Iraq.

One thing Obama did not do is start another stupid failed war that the President after him does not have to try to clean up. He did not invade Iran or Syria much as the rightwing loons wanted him to do. If he had the results would be the same as Bush's failed invasions. And President Sanders or Clinton would have to clean that up along with the lingering disasters from the Bush train wreck administration.

It is one thing to be partisan but another to be totally fact free. Comes from watching fact free Fox news. That really does make people quite distant from reality.

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Good for President Obama. No reason to be barring travel to and trade from a country over something that nearly happened half a century ago. Let's move forward.

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I challenge you: for once to put aside your hatred and FOX rhetoric and recognize that yes, although Obama isn't perfect (what president is?),

Obama didn't have to be perfect, but he sure was impossible, has nothing to do with FOX. The only thing they did was NOT sucking up to him while the rest of the MSM decided from day one to kiss his royal ring and carry his water.

he's accomplished something really good here. Something we know Bush wouldn't have.

And thank God he didn't. He understood that capitulation and giving legitimacy to the Castro regime is something that shouldn't be rewarded.

And by the way, this thread is about Cuba not those other things. We all know the Bush administration is responsible for the unnecessary wars and casualties in Afghanistan and Iraq which Obama essentially ended.

Yes, but Obama allowed ISIS to flourish and expand its operations throughout the Middle East, didn't do a thing, even after he was advised by the Pentagon to take some serious action, he didn't and now we have this carnage of Christians and other religious minorities being slaughtered and it takes years before this guy can and will call it genocide?! Also, why is it, liberals never talk about the sectarian violence which was the largest contributor of all the mass killings of the Iraqis and Afghanis?

The Arab Spring is for the Arabs to deal with; it was about them deposing oppressive dictatorships; why you think it's not about them but an opportunity for America to be the world police is something I can't understand.

But it was all Hillary's idea to topple them. So how can it be their decision??

The Ukraine is about Russia and the Ukraine.

But the Ukraine is our ally, so if China invades Japan, we should just let them?

People like you seem more concerned with America showing balls against Russia rather than with the actual people of the Ukraine.

That was on Obama, he didn't want to stand or even arm the Ukrainians.

ISIS is a result of Bush's unprovoked invasion and removal of Suddam, who never had WMDs. Libya was ruled by a tyrant, but a tyrant who nevertheless didn't bow down to the tyranny of the US.

Oh, Gaddafi was singing a different tune after he witnessed the Iraq invasion, gave up his pursuit for Nukes real quick to the US. He definitely at the time didn't want to end up like Saddam, he got it much worse, but that was on Hillary.

He was killed not as a kind gesture of the US but because he wanted an African currency with which the West would have to buy oil.

Gaddafi was a loon! Remember that 14 minute rant at the UN?

I think it's great that Obama didn't charge into everyone's affairs like Clint Eastwood.

He didn't have to charge, no one was saying that, but he didn't have to capitulate and take it up the rear either.

Yeah, Obama isn't perfect, but imagine how much better he could have been if he didn't have to fight with a diehard racist republican congress every inch of the way.

The Republicans aren't racist towards Obama because he's black, they're just frustrated with his progressive liberal failed policies. Besides, the Democrats are the group that constantly and consistently play the race card..ALWAYS.

Have you checked the stock market lately? The employment rate?

Not good. The GDP is looming at 1.0% a vibrant economy is around 2-4% on average.

!The crime rate?

NY up 11% since DiBlasio took over, Chicago up, most of the inner urban cities up, black on black crime out of control and they are up to about 75% since January 2016.

Education reform?

For Blacks and Latinos, very, very bad.

http://americaswire.org/drupal7/?q=content/educators-alarmed-black-latino-high-school-students-perform-levels-30-years-ago

Yeah, Obama increased the national debt, but that was necessary to stimulate an economy destroyed by Bush and Cheney's unchecked military spending.

So after he leaves with one of the highest debts US history, who's going to save us and clean up his mess with all of his out of control spending on entitlements. That's about 2/3 of all Federal Spending.

Anyway this post is about Cuba. And Obama has done good by reestablishing American relations with that country and your negativity just because you hate Obama is unwarranted and inappropriate.

But what did we get from Cuba, nothing just like with Iran. Are the Castro brothers allowing more freedom, are they giving people easier access to information, travel? Are they going to star paying the workers in US currency instead of worthless Pesos? Are they going to stop jailing outspoken political activists? No, they are not doing none of that, so why would anyone spend money in that communist nation just to support the Castro brothers???

And I'll leave with a good question posed by Bill Maher to the Obama haters regarding the good he's done for America. “We now have a pretty amazing economy....

Yeah and Maher also complained about Obama and his obsession with taxes. He does speak with a forked tongue.

http://youtu.be/G6OhKgkmDjc

Republicans always said Obama was a socialist. Does that mean they were wrong about that, or does socialism work?”

It doesn't, not well for the US. Go to my home state California and look at how Democrats run L.A. County and see how Conservatives run Orange Country. It's like night and day.

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Wasted more money and lives in Afghanistan than Bush. Arab Spring was a complete disaster. Libyan War was a complete disaster - it's now a failed state and creating huge migrant problems for Europe. Syria/Iraq/ISIS situation is a complete disaster. Was calling ISIS the "JV League" of terrorist groups part of Obama's master chess strategy? Ukraine is a complete disaster. Seriously, I'd love to see you argue that ANY of these things has been a success. Here, I'll challenge you:

Ehhh. Considering Obama has had to deal with Afghanistan longer than Bush did, that's not surprising in the least. Care to talk about how much money and how many lives were wasted in Iraq by "Dubya"? As for the rest of it, "Arab Spring", the Libyan civil war, the Syrian civil war, and Russia's incursion into the Ukraine, I can't freaking believe you're actually trying to blame the American president for things happening in foreign countries!! The world loves to criticize America for trying to tell them what to do, then turns right around and criticizes America for not MAKING them do what America wants them to do! You can't eat your cake and have it too.

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Artvandelay Obama is great. He's done what many other presidents and congressmen have failed to do.

Let Saudi Arabia buy high tech weapons, invade and kill Yemen's for no other reason that they lost their puppet ruler.

Prosecuted and jailed more whistleblowers, "there have been eight prosecutions under the 1917 Espionage Act – more than double those under all previous presidents combined."

Drones drones and more drones

Spy spy and more spying on the citizens.

Caved to big pharma and the big insurance.

How many broken campaign promises.

Bengazi....Ukraine....ISIS......Syria.....economic war with Russia.

Yeah right......great president.......for Wall Street, the MIC and the Corps.....

Pfff

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Ehhh. Considering Obama has had to deal with Afghanistan longer than Bush did, that's not surprising in the least. Care to talk about how much money and how many lives were wasted in Iraq by "Dubya"?

Sure, Bush did for sure made a lot of mistakes in Iraq, but that doesn't absolve or excuse Obama for his incompetence and dereliction of duty to ensure ISIS doesn't do what's doing now in the Middle East and that is not only costing us our allies, but it's creating more enemies and strengthening the ones we already have.

As for the rest of it, "Arab Spring", the Libyan civil war, the Syrian civil war, and Russia's incursion into the Ukraine, I can't freaking believe you're actually trying to blame the American president for things happening in foreign countries!!

I blame Hillary for that 100% and Obama for backing her.

The world loves to criticize America for trying to tell them what to do, then turns right around and criticizes America for not MAKING them do what America wants them to do! You can't eat your cake and have it too.

Looks like Trump is doing just that.

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Their foods are more delicious than Mexican. I wonder if Angels will add more Cuban power hitters.

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A Republican president couldn't accomplish this. Diplomacy isn't their strong suit.

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A Cuban band just played the Star-Spangled Banner in Revolution Square. Absolutely historic.

Change you can believe in?

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This president is creating friends from previous Rep gov't's enemies.

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Democratic president Kennedy despised Fidel Castro.....FYI.

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A Republican president couldn't accomplish this. Diplomacy isn't their strong suit.

A Republican president wouldn't give any dictator that believes in blocking freedom of speech, torture and the imprisonment of its people credibility or legitimacy which is their strong suit.

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Noticed the LSM failed to report that Obama got stood up by his BFF, Raul Castro, who was a no-show when he and his family arrived at the Cuban airport. Heh, even a Third World dictator doesn't take him seriously. . . .

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Remember when Nixon went to China

An US President actually given his own appearance on Cuban national state TV

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That is a list of bush disasters mostly there, are you so delusional you cannot remember recent history. You list Iraq and Afghanistan? Wow, the sun rises in the west no doubt for you as well. The Arab Spring was not started by Obama, lets see, who could have started the Arab Spring? Maybe the Arabs? No, that cannot be. It sounds too much like the truth. ISIS? You mean the former Iraq resistance to the Bush illegal and immoral invasion? Even your much loved Trump knows that ISIS comes from the Bush invasion of Iraq.

One thing Obama did not do is start another stupid failed war that the President after him does not have to try to clean up. He did not invade Iran or Syria much as the rightwing loons wanted him to do. If he had the results would be the same as Bush's failed invasions. And President Sanders or Clinton would have to clean that up along with the lingering disasters from the Bush train wreck administration.

It is one thing to be partisan but another to be totally fact free. Comes from watching fact free Fox news. That really does make people quite distant from reality.

I didn't say he started Iraq/Afghanistan, I was speaking about his policies in regards to them: pulling out of Iraq quickly and without leaving a residual force, and allowing the Afghanistan war to continue to drag on. Note that more Americans have died in Afghanistan under Obama than died under Bush. Either you lack reading comprehension or you're being intellectually dishonest.

Arab Spring was started by Arabs but Obama gave his tacit support for it. Look at Egypt, how did that turn out?

As for 'stupid failed wars', how are Libya and Syria not exactly that? Libya was bombed and Syria was fought using armed proxies. Both are now disasters which have resulted in a flood of millions into Europe.

And 'rightwing loons' wanted to invade Syria? I'm sure the neocons did, but Obama did as well. Only the UK pulling out of the plan prevented it. Remember all that 'Assad using chemical weapons' stuff? How quick people forget.

As for the Fox News accusation: a. I don't watch it, b. All mass media is propaganda, and c. that's petty ad hominem anyway.

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