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Obama calls refugee plight 'crisis of epic proportions'

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I applaud Obama's effort here. American can and will take in more refugees. It is the right thing to do. The American thing to do.

Be that as it may, doubling, tripling, even increasing ten fold is not a solution to the problem. We cannot resettle the entire population of Syria, for example. It is impossible, obviously. It is immoral too. The people of Syria should live in Syria. No one, morally, should be forced to flee the land of their birth.

That is why we must end the war in Syria. Now.

That means the US and Russia must figure out a way to work together.

Good luck with that.

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Obama gave an excellent speech to the U.N. that should attract much more news coverage. He outlines much of the problems and potentials of the world and the U.S. positions and his own proposals. You can catch it c-span. He would be a good selection for secretary general.

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Obama calls refugee plight 'crisis of epic proportions'

While carefully avoiding mentioning what he and his country have done to cause it.

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Obama gave an excellent speech to the U.N. that should attract much more news coverage. He outlines much of the problems and potentials of the world and the U.S. positions and his own proposals. You can catch it c-span. He would be a good selection for secretary general.

I watched half of it last night before bed. Excellent speech indeed!

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He would be a good selection for secretary general.

Interesting.

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oh please, endless sanctimoniousness from obama. Please just fade away and let history judge the failure of your dissapointing administration, Mr Obama.

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Obama is at least responsible for this refugee crisis thing. It's only fair the US should take in a lot of the refugees instead of Europe or anywhere else. The UK and France should have some more too. On another note, who cares about the Clooneys. Seriously.

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oh please, endless sanctimoniousness from obama. Please just fade away and let history judge the failure of your dissapointing administration, Mr Obama.

History is going to judge Obama's presidency excellently.

Look at the state of the country going into his presidency. Look at the state of the country coming out. Night and day.

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I applaud Obama's effort here. American can and will take in more refugees. It is the right thing to do. The American thing to do

Hear hear! Hell, if Germany can take a million, the US could easily take 2 million and not even blink.

oh please, endless sanctimoniousness from obama. Please just fade away and let history judge the failure of your dissapointing administration, Mr Obama.

You mean, . Please just fade away and let history judge the failure of your dissapointing administration, Mr BUSH.

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While carefully avoiding mentioning what he and his country have done to cause it.

Bush 41 and 43, scions of oil wealth, had direct roles in helping create the horrors the world's watching continue to unfold. No doubt the Obama admin kept the mess going.

France and the UK, supported by Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Italy, Norway, Qatar, and Spain also played roles. Add in the UAE, and of course Saudi Arabia.

My Occam? Bush and the oilmen.

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right on, Aly - lets drain syria of its future entirely. no problem though. the important thing is you get to be "compassionate".

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History is going to judge Obama's presidency excellently.

I've always resisted such proclamations. History is forever told and retold, with each generation examining and applying to its present need. IOW, history is often more about the present, ironically, than the past.

Just saying.

Anyhoos, I think future historians will view Obama's presidency as middling: nothing really happened in the past 8 years that people in 100 years will care much about. Just like all those nameless Republican presidents after the Cold War. "Garfield. I know him! He's they guy who had the big belly and moustache? Amiright?"

Other than of course he broke the race barrier. And was re-elected. Which is important.

Very important.

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Obama forgot a simple thing.

Welfare-seekers are NOT refugees. True refugees do not jump countries looking for the one with best economic opportunities.

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he was re-elected. oh yes, very important. yawn.

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True refugees do not jump countries looking for the one with best economic opportunities.

Why not?

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Mr Ban, has appeal for the world's compassion to help these displaced people. How many of these refugees have been accepted for resettlement in Mr Ban 's homeland? Just curious........

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The U.S. said countries taking part were also pledging to increase humanitarian aid by $3 billion. China said it was pledging $300 million, while the United Kingdom said it would resettle 20,000 and provide almost $2 billion in aid — a roughly 10 percent bump. Argentina vowed to resettlement of Syrian refugees but said the exact figures would depend on how much global assistance was provided.

Private companies were stepping up, too. The White House said more than four dozen U.S. businesses had pledged $650 million, including Facebook, Twitter, MasterCard, Johnson & Johnson and yogurt maker Chobani.

Now that's a coalition, and that's how diplomacy works.

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Bush 41 and 43, scions of oil wealth, had direct roles in helping create the horrors the world's watching continue to unfold. No doubt the Obama admin kept the mess going.

What about Clinton's action in Somalia or Carter's bungling the Iran hostage crisis, you forgot to add that to the complexity of the Mideast and Obama's unwillingness to confront the enemy has equally emboldened and helped the growth of ISIS.

France and the UK, supported by Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Italy, Norway, Qatar, and Spain also played roles. Add in the UAE, and of course Saudi Arabia.

At least you acknowledged all the other players involved.

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all the hand wringing now is so silly when NATO/the US et al caused this mess in the first place.

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America already has 11million "refugees" who illegally crossed our southern "border". Obama want all of them and all the others he can get on welfare and then on the voting rolls to perpetuate the on the take culture he represents. More million dollar vacations for government fatcats like him, slowly dying economy for fools who work for a living. As long as suckers in China and around the world by the bonds to support the ever expanding debt, the party grinds on.

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Too bad Obama's and Hillary's decisions concerning Libya, Syria and Iraq have greatly contributed to this regugee crisis of epic proportions.

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Why is it always the white western countries that are expected to take them in? How about Mega rich Saudi Arabia, the Gulf States, China, Korea and Japan start taking millions of them?

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Too bad Obama's and Hillary's decisions concerning Libya, Syria and Iraq have greatly contributed to this regugee crisis of epic proportions. sorry all the shite started to happen when Bush decided to invade Iraq on a lie, its Obama who was left to clean up the mess that resulted. Sadam Hussein was evil man but he was a girl scout compared to ISIS.

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Spend money to build fences and take care of your own poor first. Doesn't this guy ever notice the homeless in Hawaii on any of his junkets? There are tens of thousands of street people there. The man is not doing a good job.

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Why doesn't the Mideast take in more refugees, they have the same religion, it's easier for them to adapt and adjust, why does the rest of the Muslim world want to push these refugees on the rest of us? Many have a very difficult time adjusting and adapting to Western lifestyle. The Mideast should work harder solving this problem, not us.

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Why doesn't the Mideast take in more refugees

The MIddle East is a region, not a country.

Now that said, why should other Middle Eastern countries take in refugees created by a problem America started? That should be America's responsibility, and only America's responsibility.

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Obama is partly responsible for creating this crisis of epic proportions. His decision to remove our military forces from Iraq and for backing the rebels in Syria have caused this crisis.

Our allies in the Middle East will have nothing to do with the refugees. Why is this?

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So, allow Syrians into America et al from Muslim countries where America has already murdered thousands and thousands and not expect blowback? Doesn't Obama already see it happening? Let in more and these incidents will only increase. However, as Obama already has 24/7 protection, and will have to his dying day then he doesn't have to worry, does he?

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right on, Aly - lets drain syria of its future entirely. no problem though. the important thing is you get to be "compassionate".

Better to drain syria through immigration than mass genocide, no?

Why doesn't the Mideast take in more refugees

What are you talking about?

Turkey 2,748,367

Lebanon 1,500,000

Jordan 1,265,000

There's more.. here.. read for yourself

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War

Why is it always the white western countries that are expected to take them in?

Because its always the white western countries that bomb their countries and destroy their homes. Remember, the interventions were for humanitarian reasons. So they broke it, they own it.

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regarding syria, the civil war there was entirely of their own making. Obama and hillary are to blame in as far as they stupidly supported the "moderate" and decidedly not so "moderate" islamic insurgents. Russia has no blame - they are supporting the legitimate and secular assad government. The problem would dissapear over night if the so- called rebels laid down their weapons and stopped fighting. What are they fighting for, btw? Democracy? You must be joking. They are fighting to establish another islamic dictatorship in the middle east.

To be sure, its great fodder for the "progressives" to parade their ant-western agenda and show how cool they are in their willingness to inundate europe with muslims and undermine western values. thats where the tragedy lies.

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No one's discussing the elephant in the room though: the country/region of origin of most refugees (and their religion).

I have no doubt that most developed countries could do more, thing is leaders know that saying yes to a big intake of African, Middle eastern, mostly Muslims, refugees means losing the next elections. Whether we like it or not it's not 'only' about refugees, helping others etc the same way the new world (usa, Canada, oz, nz etc) accepted euro migrants during the 20th century. It's also (well mostly) about culture, religion, terrorism, fears etc

If today's refugees were from Eastern Europe, East Asia or even South America more countries would have opened their doors/hearts. Thing is everyone's worried many of those refugees won't integrate and could potentially bring massive pbms to their adopting countries as, rightly or wrongly, in people's mind legal migrants coming from the same/similar countries have failed to integrate in the last 4-5 decades.

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The MIddle East is a region, not a country.

EXACTLY! That's why I said what I said, I was referring to the entire region.

why should other Middle Eastern countries take in refugees created by a problem America started?

Wow! Typical left response. I mean, why should they care for their own people right? No different than the liberals ignoring the struggles of Minorities in the country. Gosh, I really hope and pray Trump wins to end all of this madness.

That should be America's responsibility, and only America's responsibility.

LMAO! Go Trump!!

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regarding syria, the civil war there was entirely of their own making.

Yes, because they chose to protest peacefully against a brutal butcher.

Russia has no blame - they are supporting the legitimate and secular assad government.

And if Russia was about supporting legit regimes, WHY are they in Ukraine?? They are supporting a bloodthirsty dicator. They are to blame.

The problem would dissapear over night if the so- called rebels laid down their weapons and stopped fighting.

The problem would dissapear over night if Assad left Syria and stopped fighting.

What are they fighting for, btw? Democracy? You must be joking. They are fighting to establish another islamic dictatorship in the middle east.

Some are some are not. Many do want a proper democracy. A dictatorship is a dicatorship- secular or otherwise.

To be sure, its great fodder for the "progressives" to parade their ant-western agenda and show how cool they are in their willingness to inundate europe with muslims and undermine western values. thats where the tragedy lies.

And just what exactly are "western values"?

Wow! Typical left response. I mean, why should they care for their own people right? No different than the liberals ignoring the struggles of Minorities in the country.

Seriously? The US republican party is the one that cares about the average guy?? Is THAT what you are trying to sell us??

Gosh, I really hope and pray Trump wins to end all of this madness.

With an atomic bomb. He's already questioned why we can't use them on Fox.

LMAO! Go Trump!!

Yes Yes!! LMAO! Go Trump!! Far Far Awwwwaaaaaayyyy!!!

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@Bass What about Clinton's action in Somalia or Carter's bungling the Iran hostage crisis,

Bush 41 first sent US troops to Somalia. Bush's decision became Clinton's problem.

As long as you're going back in history, the problems in Iran can be traced back to Eisenhower's (Republican) involvement with the UK government in putting the Shah in power to ensure British Petroleum (today BP, of course) could continue to bleed Iran dry.

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Bush 41 first sent US troops to Somalia. Bush's decision became Clinton's problem.

Gotcha. But you need to go back to Carter if you want to go back in time where all of this started.

As long as you're going back in history, the problems in Iran can be traced back to Eisenhower's (Republican) involvement with the UK government in putting the Shah in power to ensure British Petroleum (today BP, of course) could continue to bleed Iran dry.

While you're at it, I'll go back further to the French and British Sykes and Picot treaty. I know liberals hate taking blame for anything, again, typical.

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Aly Rustom, western values, you know, eg, the society's right not to be victimized with mass slaughter because it doesnt conform with islamic values. Or a womans right to go her way unmolested because she happens to be wearing clothing that is "haram". the list goes on but Im sure you get the picture.

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the society's right not to be victimized with mass slaughter because it doesnt conform with islamic values.

How about the society's right not to be victimized with mass slaughter because it doesnt conform to WESTERN values? Look at the illegal wars the US and Russia are engaging in

Or a womans right to go her way unmolested because she happens to be wearing clothing that is "haram".

How about a womans right to go her way unmolested period. That happens here in Japan, in the West, everywhere. Why do you think it happens there more?

the list goes on but Im sure you get the picture.

Same to you

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Too bad Obama's and Hillary's decisions concerning Libya, Syria and Iraq have greatly contributed to this regugee crisis of epic proportions.

Davy, Davy, Davy... Aren't you forgetting your own role in cheerleading the pottery barn war that started it all? You know the one that did away with Saddam and his "winsome sons". Weren't you a fervent supporter? Checking... yeah! You were!

Hmmm... but isn't your guy for the presidency now saying that it was a big mistake? He opposed it from the beginning! So, were you wrong or is he?

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Obama called on wealthier nations to step up

Is this a joke?

The 5 countries that are debt free.

Macao

British Virgin Islands

Brunei

Liechtenstein

Palau

Hey Obama, here's a tip, stop the war machine and your oil/gas pipeline dreams and build hospitals and schools.

What a total failure Obama is for the world.

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@Bass I'll go back further to the French and British Sykes and Picot treaty. I know liberals hate taking blame for anything, again, typical.

It was called an agreement, not treaty. But then rightwing shock journalism has never been big on facts nor cared about truth. Rightist publications know their followers rarely read beyond the headlines. They embed their memes in the headlines knowing these memes will be passed on.

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It was called an agreement, not treaty. But then rightwing shock journalism has never been big on facts nor cared about truth.

If that were true, Forbes mag. WSJ and FOX wouldn't have the millions of viewership. The same goes for most of the conservative radio, Liberals just suck at it. By the way, whatever happened to Air America? Liberals do best with Hollywood. Bunch of whiny liberals that scream all day about causes most people don't care about. At the end of the day, these spoiled über rich people will still never have to worry about anything bad happening to them, they got money and the majority can't understand the average American.

Rightist publications know their followers rarely read beyond the headlines. They embed their memes in the headlines knowing these memes will be passed on.

So you're saying virtualy every conservative is an idiot? Tell me, how many of millions of conservatives do you know, shook hands with and tested their IQ level? This is another reason why so many people are tired of liberals, they think they are the smartest thing since sliced bread and the more they insult and look down on people, the more they look at Trump and think, he's the man for the job.

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In other words, if the debate doesn't a liberals way, it's time to start using ad Homs. Interesting, but useless pointless and useless tactic.

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It was called an agreement, not treaty. But then rightwing shock journalism has never been big on facts nor cared about truth.

If that were true... FOX wouldn't have the millions of viewership.

Well, seeing as fox has been shown tell absolute or partial mis-truths something like 60% of the time, it is true.

Americans choose their news based on what entertains them the most, and what fits into their bias the most, not based which news is the most truthful.

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That is why we must end the war in Syria. Now.

That doesn't fit in the plans for weapons sales to terrorists.

That means the US and Russia must figure out a way to work together

Russia did last week, america murked it up by 'mistakenly' killing soldiers. If anyone believes that, I've got a unicorn to sell you.

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@bass if the debate doesn't a liberals way,

Debate? Is that what rightists call responding to a poster with whaddaboutlibs rofl and then changing the topic?

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Now that said, why should other Middle Eastern countries take in refugees created by a problem America started? That should be America's responsibility, and only America's responsibility.

What? What bodes well in your opinion? Moving to a country that shares the same or similar culture or one that requires you to accept IT'S culture while abandoning yours? It's a no brainer!!

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What bodes well in your opinion? Moving to a country that shares the same or similar culture or one that requires you to accept IT'S culture while abandoning yours?

"You break it, you buy it". The US broke the region. It's their responsibility. Whether that's taking in the refugees, or making arrangements for, and paying for them, it's up to them. But they have to find a country that will take their money to take care of the refugees first. If there aren't any, then it's up to the US to take them.

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Well, seeing as fox has been shown tell absolute or partial mis-truths something like 60% of the time, it is true.

Yeah, keep thinking that. LMAO

Americans choose their news based on what entertains them the most, and what fits into their bias the most, not based which news is the most truthful.

And you are entitled to that opinion.

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Yeah, keep thinking that. LMAO

It's not what I think, it's a fact that's been shown.

And you are entitled to that opinion.

The fact that Fox news has so many viewers shows it to be fact, not an opinion.

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"the US broke the region". Baloney.

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Obama, in an emotional event designed to invoke empathy for the plight of refugees

Here is the guy who started a sensless and criminal war in Libya, destroying the country in the process, reneged on his promise to stop wars in Iraq and Afganistan and who is supplying arms to head-cutters in Syria. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, that's the Nobel prize for peace winner, poster child of freedom. Without his actions the number of refugees in the world would be a waaay much smaller.

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"You break it, you buy it".

You didn't really answer the question.

Americans choose their news based on what entertains them the most, and what fits into their bias the most, not based which news is the most truthful.

Speaking of truth telling..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=- dY77j6uBHI

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You didn't really answer the question.

Sure I did. You just didn't like my answer.

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It's not what I think, it's a fact that's been shown.

I know, the liberal sites go for that rant constantly, you can believe that if you want, the ratings show otherwise.

The fact that Fox news has so many viewers shows it to be fact, not an opinion.

And that's a great thing.

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and they gave obama the nobel peace prize - it doesnt get any more ironic than that - unless they give it to hillary.

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I know, the liberal sites go for that rant constantly, you can believe that if you want, the ratings show otherwise.

How would ratings mean that it's the truth? Game of Thrones has a huge viewership too. Do you think it's real?

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I think the link was messed, here it is again, hillary trying her hardest to tell the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI

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How would ratings mean that it's the truth? Game of Thrones has a huge viewership too. Do you think it's real?

If it weren't, they wouldn't b I n TV. By the way, Has there ever been a time when liberals didn't tell a lie or is that they not regulated to this administration?

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If it weren't, they wouldn't b I n TV.

Please explain that logic.

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By the way, Has there ever been a time when liberals didn't tell a lie or is that they not regulated to this administration?

As opposed to the conservatives who told us that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction? Or the same conservatives that told us that the Afghan caves of Tora Bora were full of massive Cave units that were supposed to house hundreds of thousands of soldiers and truckloads of weapons?

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I think the link was messed, here it is again, hillary trying her hardest to tell the truth.

Powerful video! Funny that liberals have a selective memory malfunction when it comes to Hillary and her lies. Now more than ever, you have to be completely off center if you vote for that woman.

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Funny that liberals have a selective memory malfunction when it comes to Hillary and her lies. Now more

Funny that conservatives have a selective memory malfunction when it comes to Bush and his lies.

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Funny that conservatives have a selective memory malfunction when it comes to Bush and his lies.

Huh, had no idea Bush was running in this election.

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What refugee crisis - not in Japan. Less than 30 refugees taken in over the last 2 years. Everyone applying to become one is put into prison immediately and treated so badly that they keep dying in their cells.

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Powerful video! Funny that liberals have a selective memory malfunction when it comes to Hillary and her lies. Now more than ever, you have to be completely off center if you vote for that woman

Yeah,not a word from @Strangerland or @blacksabbath, I was hoping to hear their take on that video. Maybe it's fake?

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Sorry, the fringe right posts multiple YouTube videos daily on JT. It's hard to keep up sometimes.

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".....would send the message that countries like the U.S. were “somehow opposed to Islam.”

That's disingenuous. That "message" has been prevalent and deeply rooted in the Islamic world for decades, long before Trump or the neo-cons.

The message bearers are the region's own imams, calling the US "the Great Satan," even while empathetic people like Jimmy Carter were in the White House, and Western Europe was giving large numbers of Muslim refugees free housing, welfare, education, eh.

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Sorry, the fringe right posts multiple YouTube videos daily on JT. It's hard to keep up sometimes.

Kinda the way the looney left constantly posts articles on JT on a daily basis?

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Huh, had no idea Bush was running in this election.

His legacy still haunts us

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So that means, we have to worry about Obama's legacy haunting us as well! Wait....what legacy?

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If Obama's legacy has been hampered, that is the fault of the Republicans for stonewalling everything good he's trying to do

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So you're saying, the Republicans should just roll over and go against THEIR principles and moral convictions. Remember, they are the opposition party and have their own constituents to worry about. They have to follow Obama blindly and jump off a cliff like the Democrats do in order to make this president happy? We don't have a one party system, thank God!

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So you're saying, the Republicans should just roll over and go against THEIR principles and moral convictions.

Nope. We're saying that adults do what's best for their country, and work together with the other party on certain matters when it's for the better of their country. They don't stonewall literally every step of the way in order to be partisan, hurting their country along the way.

The republicans were so ridiculously partisan with Obama, they literally shut down the country for a few weeks.

A bunch of children if there ever were any.

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Nope. We're saying that adults do what's best for their country, and work together with the other party on certain matters when it's for the better of their country.

Really? Well, I guess Obama never gave a.....about working with the GOP, unless it went his way and there was NO compromising with him unless things went his way. Clinton was equally as stubborn until his second term, when he reached out to Gingrich and HAD to work with the GOP congress if they wanted anything done and good on both of them for coming to the middle. Obama is the exact opposite.

They don't stonewall literally every step of the way in order to be partisan, hurting their country along the way.

They sure did, can't blame them. They weren't going to roll over, and beg because the anointed one told them to.

The republicans were so ridiculously partisan with Obama, they literally shut down the country for a few weeks.

Yes and the Democrats and one particular Harry Reid (who will thankfully retire very soon) wouldn't even allow most GOP legislattions on to the floor for a vote or an approval, over 300 of them. You can't get more partisan than that.

A bunch of children if there ever were any.

I'll put it to you this way, both parties a childish, but Obama is the worst child in the room, it's my way or the highway. Thankfully, we won't have to deal with this guy much longer.

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Well, I guess Obama never gave a.....about working with the GOP

Wrong.

there was NO compromising with him unless things went his way

Wrong.

They sure did, can't blame them.

Yes you can.

I'll put it to you this way, both parties a childish

No.

but Obama is the worst child in the room

No.

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I respect your option, but I completely disagree. We can leave it at that.

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It's not opinion, it's fact.

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So you're saying, the Republicans should just roll over and go against THEIR principles and moral convictions.

What principles and moral convictions?? To screw the middle and lower classes?

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What principles and moral convictions?? To screw the middle and lower classes?

Naw, Obama has already done that when he forgot middle America, that's why you have a Trump which is a clear repudiation towards Obama's policies concerning the bread basket of America or lack of it.

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Naw, Obama has already done that when he forgot middle America, that's why you have a Trump which is a clear repudiation towards Obama's policies concerning the bread basket of America or lack of it.

Oh yeah...The New York billionaire who swindled people with his Trump University degrees?? The guy who declared bankruptcy so that he wouldn't have to pay his employees? Yeah, great. If you think Trump is for the middle class, I've got a bridge I'd love to sell you.

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Oh yeah...The New York billionaire who swindled people with his Trump University degrees??

What about going to a university and you pay over 56K and after 4 years, you get nothing? Happened to one of my sisters. She too, got swindled by the Federal government. That's just as bad.

The guy who declared bankruptcy so that he wouldn't have to pay his employees? Yeah, great. If you think Trump is for the middle class, I've got a bridge I'd love to sell you.

You make it seem as if he filed bankruptcies every week. He didn't and by the way, how many jobs Hillary create? How many white-collar jobs?

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What about going to a university and you pay over 56K and after 4 years, you get nothing? Happened to one of my sisters. She too, got swindled by the Federal government. That's just as bad.

You get a recognized degree with which you can get hired. Trump University was a scam.

You make it seem as if he filed bankruptcies every week. He didn't and by the way, how many jobs Hillary create? How many white-collar jobs?

Really? Is that the best answer you got?

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You get a recognized degree with which you can get hired. Trump University was a scam.

So what about the thousands out there that haven't been able to get ANY jobs in their field and had to take jobs that are lower wage, move back home or go into a totally different field. That too, would be considered a scam and there are thousands of people throughout the US that feel they have been scammed by the university system, parents as well.

Really? Is that the best answer you got?

Yup! It's because you don't have an answer.

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So what about the thousands out there that haven't been able to get ANY jobs in their field and had to take jobs that are lower wage, move back home or go into a totally different field. That too, would be considered a scam and there are thousands of people throughout the US that feel they have been scammed by the university system, parents as well.

The reason these people graduated from University and didn't find jobs is not because of Hillary Clinton. It's because George W. Bush came in and spent billions of dollars in Iraq and Afghanistan. He crashed economy and that's why people came out from University and didn't find jobs. So if you have a problem with that go talk to your Republican base.

Yup! It's because you don't have an answer.

Actually I do. Remember, Hillary has not been the president yet. Her husband was. And her husband presided over the greatest Time for prosperity in America's modern history. Then fast-forward to George W. Bush who completely destroyed the economy. Hillary's husband is responsible for creating tons of both white and blue-collar jobs. The Republican Party has never been able to do that. That's your answer.

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The reason these people graduated from University and didn't find jobs is not because of Hillary Clinton. It's because George W. Bush came in and spent billions of dollars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I had a feeling you were going to go back to the Bush time machine as all liberals do. 8 years and not a never once criticized this anointed man because he is the all omnipotent Obama and creator of all that we know.

Anyway, back to reality.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2016/02/09/study-increased-student-aid-not-faculty-salaries-drives-tuition

Higher education's critics tend to blame high prices on overpaid professors or fancy climbing walls. At public colleges, lobbyists tend to blame reductions in state support. But a new study places the blame elsewhere: the ready availability of federal student aid.

The researchers say no. Instead, colleges increase tuition even more, because they know financial aid can cover the difference. Student aid may cover more of students' tuition -- but if the aid wasn't available, tuition might not have gone up in the first place. “You've got to somehow tie aid to lowered tuition if you want to give money to students,” said Grey Gordon, an assistant professor at Indiana University and co-author of the paper. “You have to somehow structure it so colleges can’t just increase tuition and capture that money.”

The problem was not Bush, the problem is the board of education (which heavily supports the Democrats) is one of the biggest donors to the Democratic Party. If you get the Federal government out of this, the cost would dramatically go down.

He crashed economy and that's why people came out from University and didn't find jobs. So if you have a problem with that go talk to your Republican base.

And you had 8 years of Obama, the anointed one promised new jobs, but was too busy with his Obamacare and government jobs to boost up ( another reason why many professors were getting huge salaries ) and the students were getting the back hand. Add to that 30% of millennials can't find a decent job and many had to move back home. You had 8 years where this president could have fixed this, but making nice with Fidel, paying ransom money to the Iranians, pushing the climate change agenda, getting illegals into this country. The one most important thing, he didn't focus on enough was education. Obama had the power and he did nothing, that's totally on him and as such, the lack of political enthusiasm for millennials and looking at Hillary as their ONLY candidate who wants to carry on the failed policies of this president doesn't inspire a lot of hope for these kids.

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I had a feeling you were going to go back to the Bush time machine as all liberals do. 8 years and not a never once criticized this anointed man because he is the all omnipotent Obama and creator of all that we know.

If you want to worship the guy be my guest. I'm just saying that Democrats are better than Republicans. and if you think that Democrats have not criticized Obama and that we all haven't you're obviously watching too much fox news and too little of anything else. Many of us have many grievances with things Obama did. He was by no means a perfect president. No one is. However, given the jackass that came before him, and the possibility of the jackass you are endorsing, I'd say he was a breath of fresh air. No he wasn't perfect, but he was a hell of a lot better than any Republican ever will be. and that, mind you, is after he was stonewalled by the Republicans at every turn.

Anyway, back to reality.

This should be entertaining ..

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2016/02/09/study-increased-student-aid-not-faculty-salaries-drives-tuition

Higher education's critics tend to blame high prices on overpaid professors or fancy climbing walls. At public colleges, lobbyists tend to blame reductions in state support. But a new study places the blame elsewhere: the ready availability of federal student aid.

The researchers say no. Instead, colleges increase tuition even more, because they know financial aid can cover the difference. Student aid may cover more of students' tuition -- but if the aid wasn't available, tuition might not have gone up in the first place. “You've got to somehow tie aid to lowered tuition if you want to give money to students,” said Grey Gordon, an assistant professor at Indiana University and co-author of the paper. “You have to somehow structure it so colleges can’t just increase tuition and capture that money.”

The problem was not Bush, the problem is the board of education (which heavily supports the Democrats) is one of the biggest donors to the Democratic Party. If you get the Federal government out of this, the cost would dramatically go down.

Hogwash. The problem is that in America, there is the ridiculous belief, mostly by the Republicans, that healthcare and education should be run for profit. You want to cry about how much your sister spent for her education? Then you should vote for Hillary because she's the one who's advocating free college for all not Trump. And as for getting government out of anything, it's funny how the Republicans always want government out of their cash making schemes but never seem to have a problem with big government when it comes to the patriot act and surveillance.

And you had 8 years of Obama, the anointed one promised new jobs, but was too busy with his Obamacare and government jobs to boost up ( another reason why many professors were getting huge salaries ) and the students were getting the back hand. Add to that 30% of millennials can't find a decent job and many had to move back home. You had 8 years where this president could have fixed this, but making nice with Fidel, paying ransom money to the Iranians, pushing the climate change agenda, getting illegals into this country. The one most important thing, he didn't focus on enough was education. Obama had the power and he did nothing, that's totally on him and as such, the lack of political enthusiasm for millennials and looking at Hillary as their ONLY candidate who wants to carry on the fail

First of all, his Obamacare was vital to the nation. A lot of people got health insurance where is didn't have it before. So if you think he was wasting his time putting that together, it just goes to show where your priorities are. Second, Obama did try to do a lot for education. But it was the republican right-wing racists that stonewalled him at every turn.

Now, when he's talking about the plight of refugees, all the right wing Republicans can do is mock him. The man is trying to save lives and all you can do is criticize him. Just goes to show where your priorities are.

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If you want to worship the guy be my guest. I'm just saying that Democrats are better than Republicans.

If that's true, Blacks would be better off financially, but they haven't been for over 50 years and they vote Democrat by default. Nice job. Also, I don't worship the guy, for me it's all about the Supreme Court and not have Hillary turn it into a liberal hellhole.

and if you think that Democrats have not criticized Obama and that we all haven't you're obviously watching too much fox news and too little of anything else. Many of us have many grievances with things Obama did. He was by no means a perfect president. No one is. However, given the jackass that came before him, and the possibility of the jackass you are endorsing, I'd say he was a breath of fresh air. No he wasn't perfect, but he was a hell of a lot better than any Republican ever will be. and that, mind you, is after he was stonewalled by the Republicans at every turn.

Sorry, I read about 25 papers a day and it's very hard to find anything that is critical of Obama, but then again, since the media is 98% liberal, I shouldn't be surprised.

Hogwash. The problem is that in America, there is the ridiculous belief, mostly by the Republicans, that healthcare and education should be run for profit.

Pretty much. It is ridiculous that kids have to pay enormous amounts of money in order to get an education and if you take the Federal government out of the equation, you would see the prices going down, but as such, with these out of control fees, every college kid should find a decent job, but that's not happening.

You want to cry about how much your sister spent for her education? Then you should vote for Hillary because she's the one who's advocating free college for all not Trump. And as for getting government out of anything, it's funny how the Republicans always want government out of their cash making schemes but never seem to have a problem with big government when it comes to the patriot act and surveillance.

I have known the Clinton's and delt with them for over 30 years, I'll sum it up like this, NO Thanks! Remember, there is a reason 63% of Americans don't trust her.

First of all, his Obamacare was vital to the nation. A lot of people got health insurance where is didn't have it before. So if you think he was wasting his time putting that together, it just goes to show where your priorities are. Second, Obama did try to do a lot for education. But it was the republican right-wing racists that stonewalled him at every turn.

Tell me, how are the public schools doing in America across the country? The Dems have been pumping money into the public school system forever and what has been the result of it. Why on Earth would the GOP spend and waste more money on something that they know can't be fixed. That's not on the GOP, but if you want to blame them because they weren't Obamabots, I guess, I can see your point.

http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/breaking-obamacare-is-falling-apart-in-a-huge-way/

It's on life-support now.

Now, when he's talking about the plight of refugees, all the right wing Republicans can do is mock him. The man is trying to save lives and all you can do is criticize him. Just goes to show where your priorities are.

So let the other Muslim nations do their part and take them in. Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Qatar, Indonesia, they all have enough land, same religion, let them save the lives of their fellow brethren, if they need money, we can help them and send them some, but the Muslim nations should be the first to step up to the plate. We have our own problems and we don't need to take on more or have the people worry that someone could be a possible terrorist.

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If that's true, Blacks would be better off financially, but they haven't been for over 50 years and they vote Democrat by default. Nice job. Also, I don't worship the guy, for me it's all about the Supreme Court and not have Hillary turn it into a liberal hellhole.

They're better off than they were under Bush. And what would you like, for Trump to turn it into a fascist hellhole?

Sorry, I read about 25 papers a day and it's very hard to find anything that is critical of Obama, but then again, since the media is 98% liberal, I shouldn't be surprised.

you're obviously reading the wrong papers. And if the media was 98%, why is it that they have been phoning over Trump this whole election while not giving her any Sanders any airtime? explain that one

Pretty much. It is ridiculous that kids have to pay enormous amounts of money in order to get an education and if you take the Federal government out of the equation, you would see the prices going down, but as such, with these out of control fees, every college kid should find a decent job, but that's not happening.

Well the federal government doesn't touch health care. Healthcare costs down? Quite the opposite, people lose their house is because when they get sick. The healthcare situation in America proves that getting the government out of the situation does not make it better or cheaper for the average person.

I have known the Clinton's and delt with them for over 30 years, I'll sum it up like this, NO Thanks! Remember, there is a reason 63% of Americans don't trust her.

Even higher percent don't like or trust Trump.

Tell me, how are the public schools doing in America across the country? The Dems have been pumping money into the public school system forever and what has been the result of it. Why on Earth would the GOP spend and waste more money on something that they know can't be fixed. That's not on the GOP, but if you want to blame them because they weren't Obamabots, I guess, I can see

The public school system is doing a lot better than the health care situation in America and that's because the health care situation has no government oversight.

So let the other Muslim nations do their part and take them in. Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Qatar, Indonesia, they all have enough land, same religion, let them save the lives of their fellow brethren, if they need money, we can help them and send them some, but the Muslim nations should be the first to step up to the plate. We have our own problems and we don't need to take on more or have the people worry that someone could be a possible terrorist.

Seeing how America was the one who invaded the Middle East and destroyed it over lies, and under a Republican administration nonetheless, it should be America that takes care of the refugees. You break it you own it

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They're better off than they were under Bush. And what would you like, for Trump to turn it into a fascist hellhole?

Wow! So over 500 people were murdered in Chicago, last year over 400, so in just two years that's over 900 the majority Black and you say, they're better off under Obama? To be honest, I don't even know what to say on that point. Smh.

you're obviously reading the wrong papers. And if the media was 98%, why is it that they have been phoning over Trump this whole election while not giving her any Sanders any airtime? explain that one.

One, Sanders wasn't going to win, NO matte what, the Democrats weren't going to allow a socialist to take over the Democratic party. Two, the media has always protected Democrats and Hillary is No exception, with all the mail and server scandals, Benghazi her foundation, there is a smorgasbord of salacious stuff you can go after her on and if the MSM were fair they would do it, but they won't, give you and example, when Hillary was resting, Trump said, he wishes her health get better and hopes to see her on the campaign trail again. Now there was nothing wrong, antagonistic or foul about what he said, he was neither mean nor condescending and yet, the media in their hatred and angst for Trump STILL tried to make his words into something negative and anyone with a functioning brain could see the obvious.

Well the federal government doesn't touch health care. Healthcare costs down? Quite the opposite, people lose their house is because when they get sick. The healthcare situation in America proves that getting the government out of the situation does not make it better or cheaper for the average person.

Doesn't change the fact that many Americans can't afford their premiums and either have to cancel their policy or struggle and because the Federal government didn't get enough young people to sign up for it to make it work, someone has to pay for it if they can't get enough young people, so now the costs are on the shoulders of the middle class who are already suffering to pay for their families and the people at the bottom. The rich just pay as they go, No big deal for them, but the middle class are the ones that get screwed once again.

Even higher percent don't like or trust Trump.

Yes, you are right, but at the same time, she's not pulling away from him and as I said before, for Democrats, the enthusiasm for Hillary is not there as it was for Sanders, whereas for the Trump supporters, the enthusiasm is off the charts and that makes a huge difference, also people are so mad at Obama and Hillary for not recognizing the problems with immigration and with terrorism that this president for some benign reason refuses to acknowledge is wearing thin on the general public. Sure, with his base, he's at an all time high, but I'm talking about middle America where they think something quite different.

The public school system is doing a lot better than the health care situation in America and that's because the health care situation has no government oversight.

Oh, really? Think again....

http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/education_futures/2015/08/10_reasons_the_us_education_system_is_failing.html

Seeing how America was the one who invaded the Middle East and destroyed it over lies, and under a Republican administration nonetheless, it should be America that takes care of the refugees. You break it you own it.

Hmmm...if you go by that logic, you can make the argument since OBL attacked us and it was Muslim Jihadi terrorists murdered 3000 people then they owned it and they deserved to be bombed and just deal with it, they did it and have been doing it since 1993, so then the actions were justified then, well, that's good to know.

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Wow! So over 500 people were murdered in Chicago, last year over 400, so in just two years that's over 900 the majority Black and you say, they're better off under Obama? To be honest, I don't even know what to say on that point. Smh.

You can start by saying sorry since most of the people who killed these black men were gun loving white Republicans

One, Sanders wasn't going to win, NO matte what, the Democrats weren't going to allow a socialist to take over the Democratic party. Two, the media has always protected Democrats and Hillary is No exception, with all the mail and server scandals, Benghazi her foundation, there is a smorgasbord of salacious stuff you can go after her on and if the MSM were fair they would do it, but they won't, give you and example, when Hillary was resting, Trump said, he wishes her health get better and hopes to see her on the campaign trail again. Now there was nothing wrong, antagonistic or foul about what he said, he was neither mean nor condescending and yet, the media in their hatred and angst for Trump STILL tried to make his words into something negative and anyone with a functioning brain could see the obvious.

Anyone with a functioning brain would know that Clinton was not given a break about anything. The media has gone after her front left and center while glossing over Donald Trump scandals.

Doesn't change the fact that many Americans can't afford their premiums and either have to cancel their policy or struggle and because the Federal government didn't get enough young people to sign up for it to make it work, someone has to pay for it if they can't get enough young people, so now the costs are on the shoulders of the middle class who are already suffering to pay for their families and the people at the bottom. The rich just pay as they go, No big deal for them, but the middle class are the ones that get screwed once again.

The reason young people can't afford their premiums is because the Republican Party continues to stonewall any progress towards a single-payer public health care system. This is all on the Republicans not the Democrats

whereas for the Trump supporters, the enthusiasm is off the charts and that makes a huge difference, also people are so mad at Obama and Hillary for not recognizing the problems with immigration and with terrorism that this president for some benign reason refuses to acknowledge is wearing thin on the general public. Sure, with his base, he's at an all time high, but I'm talking about middle America where they think something quite different.

Only people where Trump has supporters are the Ku Klux Klan and angry white men like yourself. The rest of the country is pretty much behind Hillary

The public school system is doing a lot better than the health care situation in America and that's because the health care situation has no government oversight.Oh, really? Think again....

No need to think again. As bad as the education system is, at least we have one. There is no public option for healthcare which means that the very existence of an educational system that's public makes it better by de facto.

Hmmm...if you go by that logic, you can make the argument since OBL attacked us and it was Muslim Jihadi terrorists murdered 3000 people then they owned it and they deserved to be bombed and just deal with it, they did it and have been doing it since 1993, so then the actions were justified then, well, that's good to know.

what you've displayed is false logic. America destabilized the region and killed far more than 3000 people. Republicans seem to think that history began on 9/11.

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You can start by saying sorry since most of the people who killed these black men were gun loving white Republicans.

Prove it.

Anyone with a functioning brain would know that Clinton was not given a break about anything. The media has gone after her front left and center while glossing over Donald Trump scandals.

Yes, they went after her for a few days and went after Trump from....still, even today on things he said awhile back and since the majority of them are liberals, it's not going to stop, in that sense, Hillary has gotten a huge pass on this.

The reason young people can't afford their premiums is because the Republican Party continues to stonewall any progress towards a single-payer public health care system. This is all on the Republicans not the Democrats.

And thanks to that, the majority of Americans don't hold them responsible, that's why the Dems most likely will NOT take the Senate which is very important, so even if Hillary is president, if she wants things done, she's going to have to work with a very skeptical GOP led congress, she won't be able to ram everything through. Thank God for that.

Only people where Trump has supporters are the Ku Klux Klan and angry white men like yourself. The rest of the country is pretty much behind Hillary.

First of all, who says, I'm white? I never said that, please don't assume anything. As far as being for Hillary, both her and Trump are in a tight heat, very, very tight, razor tight and if more people would be for Hillary, she be further ahead in the polls, a lot further. I'll admit, Hilary has the younger voters (at least the ones that support her) and Trump has all of the senior citizens, farmers, blue collar workers and the people in middle America.

No need to think again. As bad as the education system is, at least we have one. There is no public option for healthcare which means that the very existence of an educational system that's public makes it better by de facto.

So it sucks and Democrats are going to pour more money and waste more tax payer money, but who cares, we already have $10 Trillion debt, I mean, what's a few more trillion here and a trillion there, math is not a Democrats strong suit as we have been seeing over the last 8 years.

what you've displayed is false logic. America destabilized the region and killed far more than 3000 people.

I hope you know the majority of Iraqis that were killed was due to the sectarian violence which caused the highest casualties. Americans weren't going over there, systematically and joyfully and indiscriminately killing people for the sheer fun of it. Second, how to you feel about the troops returning back to Iraq, but now this president calls them military advisors, yeah, sure.... And third, other than the typical Bush bashing, I don't see any liberal or Democrat crying being concerned about Syrian people or the Iraqis not a single word of concern, then when Bush's name is uttered, now all of a sudden, liberals are concerned?

Republicans seem to think that history began on 9/11.

And Democrats think that the war on terror and with the radical jihadists started AFTER 9/11

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Prove it.




I'd say you already have with your anti-Obama vitriol. The hatred and racism you have for this black president is endemic of a greater problem in America. You insult the president While the cops kill other black man. Everybody's doing their part.

Yes, they went after her for a few days and went after Trump from....still, even today on things he said awhile back and since the majority of them are liberals, it's not going to stop, in that sense, Hillary has gotten a huge pass on this.


Who went after Trump? Have the Democrats tried to indict trump the way the Republicans tried with Hillary, spend lots of tax dollars investigating the Benghazi issue only to find nothing? Trump is guilty of fraud and embezzlement. Where is the investigation into his shady dealings?

And thanks to that, the majority of Americans don't hold them responsible, 



Then why have we had two terms of a Democratic president? It's clear that the American people hold 武 responsible for the 2008 financial crisis. Remember the president of the current Democratic candidate left office with a trade surplus.

First of all, who says, I'm white? I never said that,

Fair enough. You didn't. And if you are indeed not white, then I apologize to you.

As far as being for Hillary, both her and Trump are in a tight heat, very, very tight, razor tight and if more people would be for Hillary, she be further ahead in the polls, a lot further. I'll admit, Hilary has the younger voters (at least the ones that support her) and Trump has all of the senior citizens, farmers, blue collar workers and the people in middle America.
 

So it sucks and Democrats are going to pour more money and waste more tax payer money, but who cares, we already ha**ve $10 Trillion debt, I mean, what's a few more trillion here and a trillion there, math is not a Democrats strong suit as we have been seeing over the last 8 years.

Funny how the Republicans never seem to have a problem with spending trillions of dollars as long as it's going overseas to fight an illegal war and kill millions of poor people. Obama has not spent as much as Bush has on war. He spent more on healthcare and education. Quite a better way to waste money I'd say.

I hope you know the majority of Iraqis that were killed was due to the sectarian violence which caused the highest casualties.

100% wrong again. The majority of the Iraqis died between the first gulf war and the Iraq war. Approximately 2 million of them. Starvation mound nutrition and lack of medicine and adequate healthcare. This was due to the oil for food program spearheaded by the first Bush and tacitly approved by Clinton. But it still was Bush who set the wheels in motion. The first Bush I mean

Americans weren't going over there, systematically and joyfully and indiscriminately killing people for the sheer fun of it.

What are you talking about? Did you not see the pictures that came out of the Aboy Graib prison? did you not see the American soldiers forcing those poor naked Iraqis to pile up on top of each other? Did you not see the American soldiers threatening the naked Iraqi prisoners with dogs who were tied up? Did you not see the pictures of the Iraqi men being forced to stand while being electrocuted?

I don't see any liberal or Democrat crying being concerned about Syrian people or the Iraqis not a single word of concern

And Democrats think that the war on terror and with the radical jihadists started AFTER 9/11



What do you think the topic of this article is??

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TYes, they went after her for a few days and went after Trump from....still, even today on things he said awhile back and since the majority of them are liberals, it's not going to stop, in that sense, Hillary has gotten a huge pass on this.

Who went after Trump? Have the Democrats tried to indict trump the way the Republicans tried with Hillary, spend lots of tax dollars investigating the Benghazi issue only to find nothing? Trump is guilty of fraud and embezzlement. Where is the investigation into his shady dealings?

And thanks to that, the majority of Americans don't hold them responsible,

Then why have we had two terms of a Democratic president? It's clear that the American people hold 武 responsible for the 2008 financial crisis. Remember the president of the current Democratic candidate left office with a trade surplus.

First of all, who says, I'm white? I never said that,

Fair enough. You didn't. And if you are indeed not white, then I apologize to you.

As far as being for Hillary, both her and Trump are in a tight heat, very, very tight, razor tight and if more people would be for Hillary, she be further ahead in the polls, a lot further. I'll admit, Hilary has the younger voters (at least the ones that support her) and Trump has all of the senior citizens, farmers, blue collar workers and the people in middle America.

So it sucks and Democrats are going to pour more money and waste more tax payer money, but who cares, we already ha**ve $10 Trillion debt, I mean, what's a few more trillion here and a trillion there, math is not a Democrats strong suit as we have been seeing over the last 8 years.

Funny how the Republicans never seem to have a problem with spending trillions of dollars as long as it's going overseas to fight an illegal war and kill millions of poor people. Obama has not spent as much as Bush has on war. He spent more on healthcare and education. Quite a better way to waste money I'd say.

I hope you know the majority of Iraqis that were killed was due to the sectarian violence which caused the highest casualties.

100% wrong again. The majority of the Iraqis died between the first gulf war and the Iraq war. Approximately 2 million of them. Starvation mound nutrition and lack of medicine and adequate healthcare. This was due to the oil for food program spearheaded by the first Bush and tacitly approved by Clinton. But it still was Bush who set the wheels in motion. The first Bush I mean

Americans weren't going over there, systematically and joyfully and indiscriminately killing people for the sheer fun of it.

What are you talking about? Did you not see the pictures that came out of the Aboy Graib prison? did you not see the American soldiers forcing those poor naked Iraqis to pile up on top of each other? Did you not see the American soldiers threatening the naked Iraqi prisoners with dogs who were tied up? Did you not see the pictures of the Iraqi men being forced to stand while being electrocuted?

I don't see any liberal or Democrat crying being concerned about Syrian people or the Iraqis not a single word of concern

And Democrats think that the war on terror and with the radical jihadists started AFTER 9/11

What do you think the topic of this article is??"

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Because of Obama the US will see more bums and bombs! China and Japan has the right idea send money to help because the immigrants or should I say refugees will not change their culture or ways once they settle. Europe was rocked by explosions America should not be surprised if it starts to happen.

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Obama calls refugee plight 'crisis of epic proportions'

He should know, he was one of the main reasons the crisis became as huge as it is.

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Specifically, how has Obama been an excellent president?

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