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Obama using hindsight...If ONLY he could have said it during the debate. The great orate without a teleprompter! LMAO

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It did remind me of the days in junior high when one kid was great at comebacks and I could only come up with great comebacks hours later. I think Romney did put Obama in that situation xD

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Romney supports coal industry. Coal industry is bad for environment.and people's health.

Romney trashes healthcare reform. Healthcare reform is good for people's health.

Is there a pattern here?

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Last night I thought was a great opportunity for the American people to see two very different visions for the country. And I think it was helpful to be able to describe those visions.

Must be that these " two very different visions" are Mitt in front of Tea Partiers and Mitt in front of everyone else.

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Obama needs to do better in the debates, period. He needs to be more aggressive and call out Mitt more often.

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Obama is known as a come back kid, The Denver Post sees that Romney's aggressiveness and Obama's reluctance to engage in a direct fight. Like a bull to a matador. At the end, do you know what a matador will do? . I see what Obama is trying to do for the 2nd and 3rd. Let Romney speak, let him keep talking. We gatcha.

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Despite the justifiably energized but still hopelessly desperate followers of Mitt, this debate essentially changes nothing.

Performance on a debate stage is no reelection of performance in the White house, although many of Mitt's "supporters" are no doubt thinking their man is 'different.'

Sorry guys, nothing has changed.  Mitt's still an empty suit with no ideas and a passionate drive to throw the middle class under the bus.

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Ha ha ha, comeback kid, ooh, that's funny!

Obama is fiesty the day after, and with his teleprompter.

Here's Obama's strategy in a nutshell ; take the underdog position to make the opponent look like a bully, then cry "liar, liar, he's picking on me !" What a farce. Let the media twisting and shouting begin. Round 2 will likely be as lame as most Hollywood sequels of "B" blockbusters .

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Both candidates "promise the moon" but they forget there is only one problem: CONGRESS. If Congress and the president were of the same party for either candidate, the result would be the same: a do nothing Congress with everyone pointing the accusatory finger at the others. "If someone points a finger at another person, there are three fingers pointing back at the accuser." Nobody should expect change by either party.

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Obama needs to devote more time for debate preparations. He's rusty from having no primary debates.

Romney caught Obama off-guard by running more to the center and actually acknowledging some things that even Liberals would agree with.

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If the Mainstream Media would not have been so busy being Obama's biggest fan and would actually challenge him on his record once in awhile, he would have been much better prepared. As it was Romney did what the Media should have been doing along since holding him accountable to his actual record. Obama gets interviewed and tosses out a talking point and the Media never challenges it. Just repeats it and is really nothing more than just an arm of campaign. He did exactly the same thing in the debate when asked about the issues. He just tossed out his talking points since that is all he has ever has to do. Romney challenged him on them and he was flummoxed and even annoyed. Romney not only made his own case forcefully, he also did the job the Media refuses to do anymore. that is hold those in the position of power to be made fully accountable for their policies and policy results. 70 million Americans saw for the first time Romney away from a Media that has never been unbiased toward him and his policies and Obama who the Media has always been protective of and in the tank for. The irony is the Media that protects him turned out to do him no favors after all. This is what happens when the Media quits being the objective referee......everybody loses in the long run, including the President of the United States.

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@SuperLib

Obama needs to do better in the debates, period. He needs to be more aggressive and call out Mitt more often.

Obama didn't really need to score in this debate. As a matter of fact, history dictates that the even when the challenger won the first debate, the incumbent when on to win the election. It was more important for Romney to win, because if he had lost, it would have really ended his election for sure. This win, at best keeps his donors from completely losing hope for him. Some reports even say that Romney winning the debate may have hurt the down ballot candidates (republicans running for senate and house) because they needed the financial support that may have been funneled to them if Romney lost this debate.

IMO....assuming that debates are going to have an impact on the outcome of the election, the last debate will the most important. Why? Because people have short memories. The majority probably don't even remember what was debated last night other than Big Bird. People usually tend to remember the last thing you say or do, hence the last debate is going to be the most memorable, and if at all the most, important. Of course, that is unless either candidate says something REALLY dumb in the course of the second or last debate.

Vice presidential debate is completely irrelevant. Case in point 1988 election -Lloyd Benson vs. Dan Quayle. Benson SLAUGHTERED and literally HUMILIATED Quayle to the point where he was nearly in tears, and yet Bush/Quayle went on to win.

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Romney supports coal industry. Coal industry is bad for environment.and people's health.

Obama supports failed green energy funded with tax payer money.

Romney trashes healthcare reform. Healthcare reform is good for people's health.

Obama's socialized healthcare is bankrupting the nation, that's why he gutted 716 Billion to fund Obamacare and it's still going to cost billiions more. Question, where is the money coming from, since we have an 8.1% unemployment rate.

Is there a pattern here? Yes, Obama robbing from the poor to give to the poorer.

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Romney not only made his own case forcefully....

Ah, so you can explain his tax plan now? He's promised an across-the-board 20% cut that would be revenue-neutral by either eliminating deductions or capping withdrawing, though he has ruled out the deduction that most greatly benefits the wealthy: preferential treatment of capital gains. Many economists say this is a mathematical impossibility, that only by eliminating deductions enjoyed by the middle class - which would in effect raise their taxes - can this be achieved. Romney says no but offers nothing concrete. Ryan says, if push comes to shove, lower taxes trumps deficit reduction.

Boy, did he dance and dance around that point. He answered nothing - in fact, all his dancing simply raised more questions, one being: His whole act may well be a red herring to divert attention from the need that most serious politicians acknowledge to balance spending cuts with revenue increases to balance the budget. Even if he managed to make his proposed tax-cuts revenue neutral, the budget would be no closer to being balanced than it is today unless he adopted draconian spending cuts.

Instead of serious discussion of the budget, he dangles 20% magically self-paid for tax breaks and eliminating Big Bird. Sail, he may have been smiley and avoided major gaffes, but he hardly made his case.

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@Bass

Obama's socialized healthcare is bankrupting the nation, that's why he gutted 716 Billion to fund Obamacare and it's still going to cost billiions more. Question, where is the money coming from, since we have an 8.1% unemployment rate.

Dammit..I don't know how many times you have to be told that this is Paul Ryan's LIE, because that's what Paul Ryan does..he lies! He's a habitual LIAR!! Several fact checkers have already said that his statement is WRONG and yet the you ditto heads still repeat it because that's all they now how to do.

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/08/cutting-medicare/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/15/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-said-barack-obama-first-history-rob-me/

Romney said, "There's only one president that I know of in history that robbed Medicare, $716 billion to pay for a new risky program of his own that we call Obamacare."

The only element of truth here is that the health care law seeks to reduce future Medicare spending, and the tally of those cost reductions over the next 10 years is $716 billion. The money wasn’t "robbed," however, and other presidents have made similar reductions to the Medicare program. -Politifact

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On factcheckers,

They don't all agree either on the facts that they check.

Romney said, "There's only one president that I know of in history that robbed Medicare, $716 billion to pay for a new risky program of his own that we call Obamacare."

But this represents some of the least-liked math in Washington, because it uses a sort of “double counting” of Medicare savings. The Medicare Trust Fund counts the health law’s $716 billion in savings as going back into its coffers. The Congressional Budget Office counts them as paying for provisions in the Affordable Care Act, like closing the donut hole. In reality, it would be very, very hard for a Medicare dollar saved to achieve both these purposes. In fact, it would be impossible.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/09/06/bill-clinton-said-many-many-things-about-medicare-last-night-heres-how-his-facts-check-out/

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Instead of serious discussion of the budget, he dangles 20% magically self-paid for tax breaks and eliminating Big Bird. Sail, he may have been smiley and avoided major gaffes, but he hardly made his case.

Big Bird is going to be far from eliminated if the Govt stopped using tax dollars borrowed from China to subsidize him.

"From 2003 to 2006, 'Sesame Street' made more than $211 million from toy and consumer product sales."

And I bet that most of the toys were MADE IN CHINA to boot.

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Herve Nmn L'EisaOct. 05, 2012 - 01:26PM JST

Ha ha ha, comeback kid, ooh, that's funny!

Obama is fiesty the day after, and with his teleprompter.

Here's Obama's strategy in a nutshell ; take the underdog position to make the opponent look like a bully, then cry "liar, liar, he's picking on me !" What a farce. Let the media twisting and shouting begin. Round 2 will likely be as lame as most Hollywood sequels of "B" blockbusters .

Herve, your comment here is laughable as you do not understand the difference what Romney did say in primary debate and now what he is saying in this debate on tax cut. I just ignore your post.

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noriyosan73Oct. 05, 2012 - 02:47PM JST

Both candidates "promise the moon" but they forget there is only one problem: CONGRESS. If Congress and the president were of the same party for either candidate, the result would be the same: a do nothing Congress with everyone pointing the accusatory finger at the others. "If someone points a finger at another person, there are three fingers pointing back at the accuser." Nobody should expect change by either party.

So far, 25 more congressional seats will go to the Democrats as of today. Actually, we are hoping about 35 more seats. The chance of getting more than 25 seats is more than 75%.

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"a muted performance"

Heck, Obama was only trying to be friendly! The gloves come off in round 2!

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lostrune2Oct. 05, 2012 - 03:19PM JST

Obama needs to devote more time for debate preparations. He's rusty from having no primary debates.

Romney caught Obama off-guard by running more to the center and actually acknowledging some things that even Liberals would agree with.

Truly agree.

Romney is changing his position EVERY DAY. Now we are dealing with three different Romneys: Romney in Mass, Romney in GOP campaign and Romney in debate. He is a man of multicolors. As Ann Romney said I would worry about his mental strength under high pressure job. We do not want this man in the Washington as he is not mentally stable.

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sailwindOct. 05, 2012 - 04:21PM JST

If the Mainstream Media would not have been so busy being Obama's biggest fan and would actually challenge him on his record once in awhile,

As media is mostly liberal-critical thinkers with higher education. Many true liberals are wealthy.

We will never have the media on our side, ever, in this country,” Santorum, a former Pennsylvania senator, told the audience at the Omni Shoreham hotel. “We will never have the elite, smart people on our side.” The media “doesn’t like the other side,” Santorum said.

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bass4funkOct. 05, 2012 - 04:55PM JST

Obama's socialized healthcare is bankrupting

bass, Romney's Premium Support (vouchers) program for healthcare will create over 72 million Americans UNINSURED. Plus, eventually ends up killing all health cares for all Americans. If you are under 55 years old, you will get no health care from the USA. You will get no social programs set for you from both Japan and USA as you wish. You are on your own. LOL

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As media is mostly liberal-critical thinkers with higher education.

Media critical thinkers, one would think would have come to the conclusion that you want people to actually want to read your stories instead of just using it for fish wrap. The higher education just shines of late.

U.S. Distrust in Media Hits New High

Fewer Americans closely following political news now than in previous election years by Lymari Morales

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Americans' distrust in the media hit a new high this year, with 60% saying they have little or no trust in the mass media to report the news fully, accurately, and fairly. Distrust is up from the past few years, when Americans were already more negative about the media than they had been in years prior to 2004

http://www.gallup.com/poll/157589/distrust-media-hits-new-high.aspx

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Both candidates "promise the moon" but they forget there is only one problem: CONGRESS. If Congress and the president were of the same party for either candidate, the result would be the same: a do nothing Congress with everyone pointing the accusatory finger at the others. "If someone points a finger at another person, there are three fingers pointing back at the accuser." Nobody should expect change by either party.

Exactly my sentiment.

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sailwindOct. 05, 2012 - 10:08PM JST

As media is mostly liberal-critical thinkers with higher education.

Media critical thinkers, one would think would have come to the conclusion that you want people to actually want to read your stories instead of just using it for fish wrap. The higher education just shines of late.

Fox News, Rush Limbaugh are very suited for "ya-all" and stay in the South regressive states while we are moving forward.

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Fox News, Rush Limbaugh are very suited for "ya-all" and stay in the South regressive states while we are moving forward.

I'll pass that on those regressive Southern fellows Bill Clinton from Arkansas and Al Gore from Tennessee.

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sailwind, Arkansas is slowly changing to Blue while Tennesee is still in solid Red. Is Rash Limbaugh still on Xanax? I wish him the best. He is still entertaining.

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sailwind, Arkansas is slowly changing to Blue while Tennesee is still in solid Red.

Since I am from there and know plenty of people who were "left behind" by Bill & Hillary I think I can speak on this. Arkansas was a Blue state (back then it wsa just called a Dem) until Bubba left. The Gov. that came in after him (D), had to resign due to fraud from the Whitewater case, and then an Republican (Huckabee) held the post until the next Gov (D) came in.

Those Dems in AR weren't the far left kind but more of the "Blue Dog" and many of them don't like the direction that Obama has taken the party. AR may have a Dem Gov, but it still is a pretty conservative state, as much of the south, to include Democrats too.

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Alphaape, good post! You are correct on this.

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I love it. The president get's his arse kicked in a debate, and all the liberals can only fall all over themselves with ridiculously stupid excuses. Yeah, yeah - it was probably the altitude, that's it. Give me a break.

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it was probably the altitude, that's it

Yeah, that was a pretty funny excuse from Gore; but he should have blamed Obama's shellacking on global warming.

RR

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Big Bird was not happy after watching the debate - look what he did to Romney's car:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpxoF52692Q

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