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Fine, what next? proceeding to India... seek blessings from Mahatma Gandhi and visit River Ganges...but Good Luck may go to Republicans!

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"Obama, bracing for perhaps one of the biggest midterm setbacks in recent times"

So I am writing this story for AP and I want to use some hyperbole, but the results are not really very special. What should I do? I can't really call it the biggest setback, but it, well, it seems big, maybe. If I use "recent times", well, that makes it seem like a bigger deal than it really is. And recent times is like, ten years, right? OK. I will use "one of the biggest" AND "recent times". There. That is vague enough to sound important, and nobody can really say it is wrong. I love journalism. I love working for AP!

I think AP should use its cub reporters on some other beat. It could use a few editors too.

"You blew it, President Obama. We gave you the two years to fulfill"

First of all, I don't think Sarah Palin ever gave Obama so much as a handshake. Secondly, consider that she was a communications major who was not good enough to work as a stringer for AP (see above).

"Should Obama lose Ohio in 2012, it would make it all the more important for him to win other highly contested states such as Pennsylvania and Florida"

Well, sort of, but Ohio is worth two fewer electoral votes anyway, which they just finished writing in the previous paragraph.

“With the Republican majority in the House or Senate or, hopefully, both, we’re not going to compromise on those things,” Steele said.

Mike Steele has forgotten what a veto is. But that is ok, because the Republican electorate doesn't know what one is either, so they all think they are going to get something passed.

This whole news story screams "NOOB ALERT". News OF noobs BY noobs FOR noobs.

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what really gets me is how these parties DEMs or the GOP can raise all this money during election time but can never find it once in office. good luck to Obama,he needs it now.

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Alaska's back in play, thanks to the Republicans throwing Joe Miller under the bus -- while trying to brush off the tire tracks from Lisa Murkowski. What a laugh!

And a major embarrassment for Sarah Palin, since Miller was her pet project.

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what really gets me is how these parties DEMs or the GOP can raise all this money during election time but can never find it once in office.

What's really pathetic is Obama's flying around the country on the taxpayer's dime calling those of us who didn't vote for him the "enemy". While Nixon had an enemies list, he can't hold a candle to this "president" who was hired to represent the entire nation.

RR

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“It’s up to you to remember that this election is a choice between the policies that got us into this mess and the policies that are leading us out of this mess,” he told about 8,000 people at Cleveland State University."

Poor Obama. Can't seem to understand that after almost 2 years people want to see leadership, not this tiresome endless campaign mode. He may as well have sent a cardboard cut-out of himself. You can see why only 8 thousand fans (and that is really the only word to describe someone still supporting this miserable failure) showed up at a venue which can hold 13 thousand people.

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All I can say is that I already voted, very happy that I did and may all the gods bless the USA and most of all my beloved California, so you 21 years and older can come out and smoke out with fear of getting busted, this is what Ohio may also need, to relax like California.

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You can see why only 8 thousand fans (and that is really the only word to describe someone still supporting this miserable failure) showed up at a venue which can hold 13 thousand people.

Heh, what happened to all those "standing room only" events with fainting women and democrats lining up to just be near their "savior" Obama?

Oh Yeah! That's right. They're waking up to the realization that president "shovel ready" lied to them.

RR

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"hard-pressed Democrats"

How could the Democrats be hard-pressed? Haven't they been leading the country in the right direction? Maybe yabits can explain this to us.

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doing something instead of campaigning would probably have more impact for Obama....yet he does nothing...2 more years and hell be gone too.

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It seems like a few of the posters here are either devotees of Fox/Glen Beck/Rush Limbaugh or failed Economics 101 pretty miserably. If people honestly think that any president can take the U.S. economy from being on the verge of total economic collapse with trillions of dollars of worthless 'assets', while facing political opposition that blocks any meaningful financial legislation, and turn it into a vibrant, growing concern within two years, they they are either deluded, ignorant, or not very bright.

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I have mentioned him several times in the last two weeks or so, so someone decided to put him on 60 minutes.

David Stockman, the US Budget Director under Reagan's first term, will take you up close and personal with the US budget process and explain exactly why the GOP and TP will have to be breaking some promises in a few days. Hey, if Reagan can't cut the budget with his huge mandate and coming off of Prop. 13, you think Boehner can do it with a few O'Donnells more or less?

Go to CBS site and click to find it.

THis guy really is the man of the hour. He has seen this all before and wrote a great book about it. The reason it is pertinent, in case you need to ask, is that someone saying that the US budget can be cut realistically by 100 billion dollars is either 1, lying, 2, lying, or 3, misinformed. This is a major part of the TP platform, and they just have no idea what they are promising. None.

Anyway, have a look everyone. Politics trumps ideology. Every. Time.

I am going to say it again. I think the Dems are going to do better than they think they will. When people calm down and stop being fearful, they will see the Dems as the best hope for America. Where are the outrageous faux pas and scandals and jackboots and slurs by Democrats? There aren't any. A bunch of strident thugs are trying to scare and intimidate people into voting for the party of no, and it is not going to work.

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“It’s up to you to remember that this election is a choice between the policies that got us into this mess and the policies that are leading us out of this mess,”

No, actually it is choice between one party (Republicans) whose policies helped cause the mess and which has no policies for getting out of it, only policies for getting deeper into it versus another party (Democrats) whose policies helped cause the mess and which has no policies for getting out of it, only policies for getting deeper into it. The only choice is about how much deeper you want to go.

The economy is the only issue that matters, and neither party is talking about it. Just a lot of shouting about nothing. It's the Seinfeld election, an election about nothing. Obama thinks everything can be fixed with PR spin, and the Republicans are so deep in the pocket of Wall Street that their waterboys McConnell and Boehner don't even bother hiding it. And everybody thinks if they just ignore reality it will magically go away. But it won't, and the election results will change nothing. Nothing will change until the US government (and media) stops being controlled by the people with the "trillions of dollars of worthless 'assets'", as said above. Because those worthless assets and the attempts to protect them and keep them alive are the root cause of everything. Face up to that or go down, that is the real choice.

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Mr Obama has passed healthcare legislation that eluded presidents for a century; reformed the financial regulation of Wall Street (though not nearly enough for those on the left who wanted to see an assault on the bankers and their inflated pay); bailed out and rescued the auto industry, thereby saving hundreds of thousands of jobs; and passed a $787bn stimulus that may well have prevented wholesale economic collapse.

GOP: What have YOU done for me lately? (Cue, silence OR poisonous rhetoric acidic with divisive bile.)

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The GOP rode the US into the ditch, do NOT give them the keys back. They can not drive! Get yourselves sat in the trailer, never mind the back!

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Fine, what next? proceeding to India... seek blessings from Mahatma Gandhi and visit River Ganges...but Good Luck may go to Republicans!

At a high school meet last year, OBAMA did mention he'd like to have dinner with Mahatma Gandhi-- if given chance...

OBAMA ON GANDHI:

"He (Mahatma Gandhi) is somebody whom I find a lot of inspiration in. He inspired Dr (Martin Luther) King ; so if it hadn't been for the non-violent movement in India, you might not have seen the same non-violent movement for civil rights here in the United States."

"What was interesting was that he ended up doing so much and changing the world just by the power of his ethics, by his ability to change how people saw each other and saw themselves -- and help people who thought they had no power realise that they had power, and then help people who had a lot of power to realise that if all they're doing is oppressing people, then that's not a really good exercise of power."

Sounds inspirational ;)

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@Equality, Klein2, and GJDailleult.

Thank you for your insightful posts above. I have read so much inane drivel on these boards over the past few weeks, I was beginning to wonder if some of the more 'productive' posters were not paid employees of political action committees!

I do find it disheartening, on this message board and seemingly in American society as a whole, that self-proclaimed fiscal conservatives have jumped on a social conservative bandwagon at the very moment when Ameica's fiscal health is at its most dire. I believe that the original Tea Party sentiment was understandable, and somewhat honorable, but that it has unfortunately been co-opted by a host of, shall we say, demagogues with agendas that are inconsistent with America's immediate problems.

I have to give it to Sarah Palin, though, for she has managed to straddle both politics and modern media and succeed, for better or worse. But her quote, "You blew it, President Obama. We gave you the two years to fulfill your promise..." is rather disingenuous, as the President was actually given 4 years, was he not? It's also rather rich coming from a person who did not finish her own term of office. But, memories are getting shorter across the board, aren't they?

As much as I disdain the near-rabid partisanship emanating from American politics, I do believe it is part of a necessary process to get to the workable middle. I think that a quiet majority of Americans have already arrived there, even if their elected representatives haven't. But in this election, and perhaps the next one as well, fundamental economic and fiscal reform are ignored at one's peril.

Too late, I wonder. I fear things are going to get much worse as everyone is looking away. But a wise statesman once said that the Americans can indeed be counted on to do the right thing, but only after they have exhausted all the alternatives.

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Mr Obama has passed healthcare legislation that eluded presidents for a century; reformed the financial regulation of Wall Street (though not nearly enough for those on the left who wanted to see an assault on the bankers and their inflated pay); bailed out and rescued the auto industry, thereby saving hundreds of thousands of jobs; and passed a $787bn stimulus that may well have prevented wholesale economic collapse.

AND YET-- the polls had been static since last week, and the issue of 'incumbency' have dogged not only the Dems but OBAMA as well....

"80 percent said they want most incumbents out of Congress regardless of whether that incumbent is a Democrat or Republican." (CBS/ NYT)

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Midterm Gallup polling: the Republicans have a 55 percent to 40 percent lead, with 5% undecided.

NBC News/Wall Street Journal (House polling) 49 per cent Republican, versus 43 per cent Democrat.

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Simple voter anger. Some hardcore GOP types will try and tell you the peeps are calling for their agenda. Not the case. The peeps want jobs, plain and simple.

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Obama selectively reviewing history as usual - -

"He (Mahatma Gandhi) is somebody whom I find a lot of inspiration in. He inspired Dr (Martin Luther) King ; so if it hadn't been for the non-violent movement in India, you might not have seen the same non-violent movement for civil rights here in the United States."

Ghandi was also heavily influenced by Americans (shock - white Americans!) like Thoreau and Emerson.MLK was also influenced by Thoreau's notions of civil disobedience. But Obama would be loathe to mention such things.

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Klein2 - "I am going to say it again. I think the Dems are going to do better than they think they will."

I second that.

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I think the Dems are going to do better than they think they will." I second that.

51 percent of them want Obama off the ticket in 2012. So, if you think about it, they will do better than most expect.

But not in Tuesday's election.

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Simple voter anger. Some hardcore GOP types will try and tell you the peeps are calling for their agenda. Not the case. The peeps want jobs, plain and simple.

If it's simple 'voter anger' (following your logic) then most of these people now rooting for the Reps are just a bunch of whingers then.... BUT 'It's the economy, stupid' seems redundant this year-- after all, the United States, under OBAMA, did prevail, and recession ended in June 2009-- after 18 mths-- and its effects pretty much waning. What happened?

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I lot of people obviously just do not get how close to the brink it all was and how incredible the mere prevention of collapse has been. Mr Obama, thank you.

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"A lot of people obviously just do not get how close to the brink it all was and how incredible the mere prevention of collapse has been. Mr Obama, thank you."

If Obama and his admin prevented a collapse why has his economic team basically deserted him?

Why does half his own party want him gone?

The recession, we were told, ended June 2009.

And yet they needed to tout this last summer as the Summer of Recovery, a joke I see none of the really clever Libs in Jon Stewart's rally on the Mall (no filming allowed, LOL) didn't bother touching on.

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The funniest thing about it all was how quickly and resolutely at the time the Republicans threw out their deepest and hardest held beliefs and ran to Keynes as fast as they could, that was TRULY hilarious. Mr Obama's team is steering to the horizon, the one with the sunrise. We've got the keys, any GOP can come along, but hey, get in the back because you can't drive!

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Mr Obama's team is steering to the horizon, the one with the sunrise.

You forgot the unicorns.

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Obama's team is steering to the horizon, the one with the sunrise.

You also forgot the gum drop rivers.

RR

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Explaining stuff to people that forget the past so quickly is really fun. How's that conversion to Keynesian economics treating you? LOL. Remember, you can come along, but only in the back, we AIN'T giving you the keys.

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When the dust settles Tuesday night, look for Obama to blame the democrats he "inherited" for the tsunami that will wash over the political party he leads.

RR

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The funniest thing about it all was how quickly and resolutely at the time the Republicans threw out their deepest and hardest held beliefs and ran to Keynes as fast as they could, that was TRULY hilarious. Mr Obama's team is steering to the horizon, the one with the sunrise. We've got the keys, any GOP can come along, but hey, get in the back because you can't drive!

Actually, you'll note, that those who voted for TARP, are what we call RINOs. As in, they are not fiscal conservatives, one of the cornerstones of the Republican party. Thats why McCain failed, thats why so many Republicans lost. They abandoned their principles, and so voters abandoned them. They claim to have gone back to them. And a lot of new Republicans are running, based once again off certain core principles. We'll see if they actually stick to them or not. If they do, then they have a shot, if they don't, if they just want to compromise, run up massive deficits like the Dems, then they won't last long at all.

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Yes, yes, not "true conservatives" we know. Those are like unicorns... Only in stories :)

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@Molenir, you need to take that whole 'premise' onto Myth Busters and watch them work their 'magic' as it goes up in a puff of smoke. Fiscal Conservatives? LOL. Who ran the economy from surplus to absolute OMG in 8 years? Who didn't save the surplus? Who didn't balance the budget?

Whereas, who cut government spending, created a 36% individual income tax bracket, raised the top tax bracket, which encompassed the top 1.2% earning taxpayers, from 31% to 39.6%, and created a 35% income tax rate for corporations AND got a balanced budget?

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Prediction,

Most are saying around a 60 seat pick-up by the GOP, 6 to 8 in the Senate.

My prediction 80 to 85 House seats go GOP, 10 Senate. Based on one thing that most of the experts may not have considered through all the modeling and internal polls.

When Scott Brown won his Senate seat in Massachusetts he even carried Barney Franks district! Barney's seat has recently turned from safe Dem to likely Dem as of late. If the early returns shows Franks going down (no pun intended) you're looking at 100 seat pick-up. This isn't going to be a wave election, it is going to be a tsunami.

Should've have listened to the people Obama and company, they were sending you a message when Scott brown got elected and you ignored it. Now instead of the good voters of Massachusetts trying to get through to you, the whole nation will November 2nd.

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Both Reagan and Clinton lost in the mid-terms, Mr Obama will ride on to 2012.

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Ah screw it. My picks: GOP picks up 1000 seats in the house and 300 in the senate. Obama steps down from the presidency, giving it to Sarah palin and she dissolves the supreme court giving it's judicial authorities to Rand Paul.

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Both Reagan and Clinton lost in the mid-terms, Mr Obama will ride on to 2012.

I really don't think so with this President. Reagan was famous for working with the Democrats to get his policies in place. Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill was a frequent guest in his White-house.

Clinton to save his political hide tracked to the center as fast as he could get there as soon as he had his butt handed to him in his first mid-terms and the American rejected his policy agenda in the last landslide we saw.

Obama seems incapable at least in my opinion to grasp that he is President of the United States and not just President of the Democratic party. The rest of us that aren't down with his policies just aren't bright enough to appreciate the wonderful things he wants to do for us through big Gov. I believe instead of hightailing it to the center and working for what will obviously be what the people want by this election, a Govt that actually lives within its means, pursues policy that creates jobs in the private sector not the public sector and uses the public purse in a responsible fashion instead of reckless borrowing and spending. He'll hunker down and remain President of the farther left side of his party and stay there, that is all he seems to know anyway and recent statements by him only support my view further.

Believe this or not, I don't want President Obama to fail. This election really is my opinion a second chance, a real second chance for him to finally get the hang of this President thing and start leading the nation on the path the people want him to go, not the path he wants to take us. Not many Presidents are given that chance after how bad he has run the country the past two years.

Will he take it? Or will he continue to go on Jon Stewarts show and tolerate some snarky comedian calling the President of the United States "Dude" as he continues to shrink in stature of the Office that holds?

We shall see, going to be interesting his public reaction and speeches for the next few months, very interesting as the new Governing reality and the will of the people are going to hit him full force now.

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Actually, you'll note, that those who voted for TARP, are what we call RINOs. As in, they are not fiscal conservatives, one of the cornerstones of the Republican party. Thats why McCain failed, thats why so many Republicans lost. They abandoned their principles, and so voters abandoned them.

A fairly tale. Then what you call the "RINOs" include the Republican congressional leadership. Boehner and Cantor both not only supported TARP, they were instrumental in getting over 90 of their GOP House colleagues to vote for it. As for McCain failing, we can't help but notice that Arizona voters not only didn't abandon him, but instead abandoned his opponent JD Hayworth -- a vocal opponent of TARP.

Why hard core conservatives want to keep deluding themselves with these fantasies is beyond me.

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Don't worry. The GOP lot here are too busy with dogma to even realize why 51% of dems aren't sure why they want Obama back for 2012.

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Most are saying around a 60 seat pick-up by the GOP, 6 to 8 in the Senate. My prediction 80 to 85 House seats go GOP, 10 Senate. Based on one thing that most of the experts may not have considered through all the modeling and internal polls.

According to Bloom's taxonomy (cognitive domain), accurate prediction is about the highest form of knowledge. I believe you are off in your predictions by at least 10 to 20%. We shall see how accurate this is very soon.

The Brown example is a rather poor one. Candidates still have to campaign for a position, and Brown was an excellent campaigner while his opponent was awful. Since being elected, Brown has legislated very moderately -- being one of the few Republicans to vote in favor of jobs bills and financial reform.

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I really don't think so with this President. Reagan was famous for working with the Democrats to get his policies in place. Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill was a frequent guest in his White-house.

It was a 2-way street. Both men exercised the spirit of compromise.

Will he take it? Or will he continue to go on Jon Stewarts show and tolerate some snarky comedian calling the President of the United States "Dude" as he continues to shrink in stature of the Office that holds?

The captain of a ship is still the captain -- no matter if the Commander-in-Chief comes aboard. And the Daily Show is Stewart's ship. Nobody for a second believes that Stewart would taken the same liberties if the scene had taken place in the Oval Office. The apparent difference between leaders like Obama/Clinton and Republician tight-asses is that they can show others that they're still regular people, living in a nation where all men are created equal.

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Ah screw it. My picks: GOP picks up 1000 seats in the house and 300 in the senate. Obama steps down from the presidency, giving it to Sarah palin and she dissolves the supreme court giving it's judicial authorities to Rand Paul.

Yawn

We shall see, going to be interesting his public reaction and speeches for the next few months, very interesting as the new Governing reality and the will of the people are going to hit him full force now.

Yeah, it'll be interesting-- the landscape has changed, TP would have been a force by then. In a few weeks time it'll be Stimulus Phase II and I'm betting it'll be quite noisy in the House.

Reagan was famous for working with the Democrats to get his policies in place. Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill was a frequent guest in his White-house.

O'NEILL and REAGAN were cordial friends off the scene, but equal adversaries in the political arena.

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"Obama seems incapable at least in my opinion to grasp that he is President of the United States and not just President of the Democratic party."

Well, that is quite an opinion. In my opinion, he should have let Pelosi and crew steamroll everyone else. He could have gotten twice as much done in his first two years if he had listened a little more to people telling him that the GOP was just going to stall and hinder. Jon Stewart, Michael Moore and Paul Krugman are all saying the same thing. Obama is way too much of a nice guy. He is too much of a president in his first term. He should have been lopping off heads and passing his programs from day one. Who was going to stop him? Hillary? Pelosi was ready to go. If he had done that, he would not be having people like you calling him uncompromising. Everyone would just know it. A little more Truman and a little less Carter would have been nice.

FDR was cracking heads and buying off people left and right at this stage. Obama should have stepped it up.

And JRaustralia. Reagan was a fan of Tip from the time Ronald himself was a Democrat. Reagan was also the head of a labor union at one time. Things were different then, and mutual respect was such that shouting LIAR at the president was a career-ender, not a career-starter. Besides, Tip was a nice guy and the Reagan White House was handing out defense contracts like candy on Halloween. Things worked out.

Everybody, go to the 60 minutes site and click around. JRaustralia is talking about the recovery, but there is a good little documentary showing that middle America is not recovering. The David Stockman interviews are like Colin Powell and Warren Buffett on steroids. If the GOP is seriously going to go for budget cuts and tax cuts, they are just dreaming. This from moderate Republicans---some pretty unbiased observers.

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OK. It is election time. Here is some spin to watch for as the dust settles:

Tea Party breaks its promises. All of them. It is only a matter of time, and I don't think it will be long. If they use their "energy" and "mandate" and rush into things, it will be rip-saw time. Their inexperience will doom them. If they hold back, they will get chewed up by the GOP and the Dems.

GOP coopts Tea Party or fights break out. This will be a difficult formula. If the Tea Party wins too much or too little, it will be fights. But if the GOP is pleased, it will buy them off. Then watch the Tea Party break its promises. For many reasons, the GOP will want to watch the Tea Party fail, though.

Obama says something like "America has spoken and I am listening." Or some such nonsense as he rushes to claim the middle ground that the Tea Party and the GOP abandoned in their rush to get a few more seats. When people see how ineptly the Tea Party goes about things, the Dems will look a lot better.

Silence. The chess game begins. Nobody wants to be the first to cut government programs or even mention it. Look for LOTS of stalling. It is like the election was a dinner at an expensive restaurant, and nobody wants to pick up the tab. I think that the Tea Party will bring up spending cuts first, because, lol, they kind of HAVE to, and the GOP will use that to skewer them and make themselves appear to be pragmatic. Haha. That will be rich. I will laugh hard. The GOP will give this top priority because they really really do not want to deal with Sarah Palin anymore.

Sniping. Now that the elections are over, scandals involving all those people who did NOT run will become political fodder. Look for the effective number of GOP TP seats to get shaved by a few votes in the months ahead.

That is it. I don't think the numbers matter too much unless the GOP gets 2/3 majorities. GOP and TP promised way too much, despite being vague, and can't possibly deliver. Their energy is spent, and the White House has the veto. The real drama in the next year will be the demise of the Tea Party. If the GOP does not want to work with the Dems, they can just sit back and watch the economic numbers improve. If they have to ally themselves with the Tea Party to "do something", then we can all look forward to Sarah running the GOP show in 2012.

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Everybody, go to the 60 minutes site and click around. JRaustralia is talking about the recovery, but there is a good little documentary showing that middle America is not recovering. The David Stockman interviews are like Colin Powell and Warren Buffett on steroids.

Great stuff. I second your recommendation.

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That's right, middle america isn't recovering. All those manufacturing jobs went to China or were automated. The only people who's jobs aren't outsourced are either too labor critical (like janitors and housekeeping) and can't be automated or require real time highly adaptable skills. Even the latter can be outsourced to India; eventaully. So with middle amreica not recovering both the Economist and CNN are predicting that it's open season on incumbents in general and the current majority holders, who promised way too much to be able to deliver. Not that the other guys won't make a hash of things, but if there is one thing you can accuratly say about the majority of Americans is that they're not happy campers any more.

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A fairly tale. Then what you call the "RINOs" include the Republican congressional leadership. Boehner and Cantor both not only supported TARP, they were instrumental in getting over 90 of their GOP House colleagues to vote for it. As for McCain failing, we can't help but notice that Arizona voters not only didn't abandon him, but instead abandoned his opponent JD Hayworth -- a vocal opponent of TARP.

2 points here. First, when congress was told that it was pass TARP or the entire banking system collapses, to be honest, I'm rather surprised that a majority of Republicans had the backbone to oppose it. In spite of Bush, and Co. pushing it. As regarding the McCain primary this year. Please note, that Hayworth had a ton of political baggage. McCain started attacking him early, and continued on with extremely negative campaigning, and even with all that, won by less then 20 points. In a 3 way race, with a sitting Senator, and a lot of negative baggage, thats a huge upset.

Believe this or not, I don't want President Obama to fail. This election really is my opinion a second chance, a real second chance for him to finally get the hang of this President thing and start leading the nation on the path the people want him to go, not the path he wants to take us. Not many Presidents are given that chance after how bad he has run the country the past two years.

I actually agree with you here Sail. I don't like Obama, I think he has been bad for the country. At the same time, I don't want him to be a bad President. I would rather he become a good President, one who is the President of all Americans, not just those on the extreme left wing. Representing 10% of the American people may be fine for a member of Congress, but not for the President.

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When people see how ineptly the Tea Party goes about things, the Dems will look a lot better.

It's not an official party. If you don't get that this late in the game you are lost. The movement also includes independents. It includes former Dems (half of registered Dems want Obama gone). And it includes wary but hopeful Libertarians like myself.

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there is a good little documentary showing that middle America is not recovering. The David Stockman interviews are like Colin Powell and Warren Buffett on steroids. If the GOP is seriously going to go for budget cuts and tax cuts, they are just dreaming. This from moderate Republicans---some pretty unbiased observers.

Well-- there you go, and caveat emptor to those now wishing to derail Phase II of stimulus funding. I nominate myself as both sides moderator for the day, should be fun LoL

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The David Stockman interviews are like Colin Powell and Warren Buffett on steroids.

Yeww! Warren Buffett-- whose views on current economic conditions have pretty much repeated OBAMA's campaign pledges... folks, if that's the case prepare to be brainwashed watching this doco :(

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All those manufacturing jobs went to China or were automated. The only people who's jobs aren't outsourced are either too labor critical (like janitors and housekeeping) and can't be automated or require real time highly adaptable skills. Even the latter can be outsourced to India; eventaully.

You Americans should start reading FTAs-- stop being a bunch of lemmings and make up your own mind on trade deals, don't just let Reps/ Dems political dinos mull things for you.

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Yawn indeed, I thought my prediction was as believable as 85/10. Every single toss up going GOP. Laughable :)

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Wow, so there are true conservatives? Amazing!! This used to be like a drinking game: take a shot every time a conservative poster tells you a historical event event involving their party doesn't count because there were no "true conservatives" involved.

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Yawn indeed, I thought my prediction was as believable as 85/10. Every single toss up going GOP. Laughable :)

Whats even more funny, and whats terrifying for the Dems, is just how many tossups there are.

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They'll be toss-ups in 2012 also...

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Obama, in 2008:

"I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless;

this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; [still good for a chuckle]

this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on Earth."

It is easy to ridicule the gullible and sentimental people who fell for this but I hope many voters, the young in particular, learned from the catastrophically stupid mistake they made in supporting a profoundly deceitful, never-tested, crypto-socialist like Obama.

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It is easy to ridicule the gullible and sentimental people who fell for this but I hope many voters, the young in particular, learned from the catastrophically stupid mistake they made in supporting a profoundly deceitful, never-tested, crypto-socialist like Obama.

Ho ho ho... not that true conservative bloggers supported John "Amnesty" McCAIN in the first place. Remember? So, who'd it be for 2012... Sarah PALIN or Bobby JINDAL.

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People, how can anyone think the stimulus bill was some sort of socialist program to run up the debt; almost half the stimulus program was tax cuts, and YOU people just don't seem to be able to get this information into your head.

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Ho ho ho... not that true conservative bloggers supported John "Amnesty" McCAIN in the first place. Remember? So, who'd it be for 2012... Sarah PALIN or Bobby JINDAL.

Personally, I'd love for the Governor of New Jersey to run. I do like Jindal as well though. He's had tons more experience then Obama, and actually has a brain, which makes him far superior then the incompetent we have now.

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My prediction 80 to 85 House seats go GOP, 10 Senate. Based on one thing that most of the experts may not have considered through all the modeling and internal polls.

Goofy prediction. Goofy analysis.

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