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This is rare, France and the US in agreement??? What kinds of sanctions will they find effective???

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I hope the sanctions, etc are successful. Iran is the sworn-enemy of Israel. They consider it their religious duty to eliminate them. Both countries having nukes, now that would be a problem for the world community.

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Iran makes me so sad. Imagine a place with some of the most wonderful artistic, music and historical cultures in the world. Now imagine that repressed by a government that the average Iranian does not support. And then imagine the lost hope, talent and contributions to global culture that the people of Iran are unable to share.

Sanctions will harm the normal people while the government remains in power. This isn't helping to bring change. The only real solution is engagement. Someone needs to step over the line and try to engage Iran on an unconditional level. Perhaps the trust this brings will help end the problem.

The alternative is the continued march towards another Iraq and the disaster that having a war across Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan would bring to the world. If you think the Taliban are had to beat today, watch what a war in Iran would do for killing off the young people of all the waring nations.

It is time for a new approach.

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Its time to get rid of Obama and Sarkozy; they are just more of the same corrupt puppets who do the bidding for "the powers that be" instead of working for their people.

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I'm glad that we have a strong relationship with France. Obama's been a breath of fresh air whene it comes to foreign policy. < :-)

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Iran makes me so sad. Imagine a place with some of the most wonderful artistic, music and historical cultures in the world. Now imagine that repressed by a government that the average Iranian does not support. And then imagine the lost hope, talent and contributions to global culture that the people of Iran are unable to share.

SIR, you're a liar. Imagine a country with the highest rate of nose jobs and then imagine a repressive regime you've just described. It simply doesn't add up.

Is the world prepared for another round of Mid East wars? OBAMA and SARKOZY are certainly counting on it.

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Obama's been a breath of fresh air whene it comes to foreign policy.

What?!!! Except for Obama being better at reading the teleprompter, nothing has changed. He promised change, but he's been giving us more of the same.

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Obama needs an earpiece as well. He called Nicolas Sarkozy "Nicolai". The teleprompters aren't good enough...

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manfromamerica

Obama needs an earpiece as well.

Nah, bush did that in a debate remember? he got caught.

sabiwabi

He promised change, but he's been giving us more of the same.

Agreement with Russia to reduce nukes. Telling Israel to back off. Putting an end to Iraq. Doubling the troops in Afghanistan.

This is more of the same? bush did this stuff? I don't think so. < :-)

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Telling Israel to back off.

Yes, from what he SAYS, people get the impression that he is "CHANGE", but his actions have not changed anything. Has Israel stopped the settlements? Will Israel continue to get a huge amount of aid from the US?

If Obama was fair and balanced, and if he was really the president (in charge), he would ask for sanctions against Israel, not Iran.

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manfromamerica,

"Obama needs an earpiece as well. He called Nicolas Sarkozy "Nicolai". The teleprompters aren't good enough..."

Sarkozy's name is not Nicolas, as in Nicolas Cage. It's Nicolas, as in the French pronunciation, Nicola. Obama wasn't mispronouncing the French Prime Minister's name. He was demonstrating that he wasn't an ignorant jackass who can't be bothered to learn how to pronounce a person's name properly in a language other than English.

Yes, a minor detail, but an important one when you're trying to generate international unanimity in preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.

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He was demonstrating that he wasn't an ignorant jackass who can't be bothered to learn how to pronounce a person's name properly in a language other than English.

Was he speaking to Sarkozy in "Austrian"?

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“Do we have unanimity in the international community? Not yet. And that’s something that we have to work on,” Obama said.

Which translates as "We have not yet successfully manufactured consent for yet another illegal war based on a pack of lies. But we'll keep trying until we do. That's our orders from our Masters in Tel Aviv, delivered in person to the White House just last week."

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tkoind2: Someone needs to step over the line and try to engage Iran on an unconditional level.

You mean meet without preconditions? I thought that was the current offer on the table?

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Obama says "DO AS WE SAY NOT AS WE DO!"

Obama is the same old Amerikan hypocrite as all American leaders. A war mongering fanatic. His main job is to keep the American fundamentalists happy. So much for this change that he promised. In good old Amerikan tradition. All hype, no substance. This latest outburst is nothing but hot air. Reminds me of Bush wanting to spread freedumb and democracy.

Funny how USA has a tendency to support some dicatorships yet be against Iran which is more democratic than most other countries in the region and Americans only seem to be so concerned about human violations in that country yet be one of the greatest violators of human rights themselves. Obama is a joke.

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"Was he speaking to Sarkozy in "Austrian"?"

Uhm, he was pronouncing his name as it is said in French, as LFR already stated. And Sarkozy despite being born in France, he comes from Hungarian stock.

Heh, the US and France stood firmly together seems to be upsetting the usual suspects. Where's Captain Popcorn?

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" A war mongering fanatic"

Heh, how on earth can Obama be construed as this?

Not even Bush II was particularly a "fanatic".

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Heh, how on earth can Obama be construed as this? Not even Bush II was particularly a "fanatic".

I'm optimistic with current Mid East direction. So long as the boring sh!t stirrers of B-II are not in the picture, which I'm pretty confident they'll try, then diplomatic persuasion will still be manageable.

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Iran is just a nuclear bomb waiting to go off. Literally.

It`s nuclear facilities should have been bombed years ago already.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MM-xQ6t0QQ

-with the huge push of leaving Iraq right now it does makes sense for Obama to push his "weeks" agenda.

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Iran is just a nuclear bomb waiting to go off. Literally.

It`s nuclear facilities should have been bombed years ago already.

LoL I'm sure the American public will buy that. OR perhaps the thinkers in Washington already decided to completely ignore the public's trust. But if OBAMA (and it seems SARKOZY) goes ahead with the plan-- I'm sure PALIN and the NEOCONS will be absolutely delighted... and vindicated.

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" I'm sure PALIN and the NEOCONS will be absolutely delighted"

I'd be impressed for palin just to be able to find Iran on a map...

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I'd be impressed for palin just to be able to find Iran on a map..

Now that China's on board... does it matter if you can actually find Iran on the map.

Good Morning, Tehran!

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1160130.html

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Putting an end to Iraq.

Actually that Bush, see Bush was the one who approved the surge and the changed in strategy which then allowed violence to drop by 95% in Iraq which then allowed conditions on the ground that allowed Bush to sign the SOFA that had a timeline for withdrawal in it and not allow Bush to lose "face". Sure the prospect of Obama winning probably played a role in Bush agreeing to the SOFA but it was under Bush's term that the SOFA containing the timeline ending the war was signed, not Obama.

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Sanctions will harm the normal people while the government remains in power.

How? The proposed sanctions only target specific people and organizations, not the general public.

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"the surge and the changed in strategy which then allowed violence to drop by 95% in Iraq"

Did you make that statistic up? Heh, even if it were true the violence was caused by bush in the first place so we're back to the "shaving my head to grow my hair" the warmongers kept applying to the Iraq situation.

Submitting a similar invasion on Iran would be far greater lunacy than the misery Bush jnr rained down on your average Iraqi, but I'm all for a NATO surgical strike.

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How? The proposed sanctions only target specific people and organizations, not the general public.

You wish. Small businesses that maybe importing or exporting in any sanctioned nations are actually scapegoats as well. To put a price tag on these 'organizations' it could range from US$500 local stores- US$1 bil companies. Imagine small businesses in the Gaza Strip affected by latest round of sanctions.

Heh, even if your scenario is accurate it still doesn't make any add up since the biggest bully in the region is not IRAN.

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*it doesn't add up

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Which companies jayr09, can you name them?

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Did you make that statistic up?

Nope you can search it yourself, violence fell by 75% within the first six months of the surge and change in overall strategy was launched, in the 2-3 years since then violence has dropped by more than 95% since the surge was launched.

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Here is some evidence for ya:

he level of violence has dropped dramatically in Iraq in recent days from year-ago levels, a U.S. military official in the war-torn country says.

Army Brig. Gen. David G. Perkins, a spokesman for the multinational force in Iraq, told reporters in Baghdad Sunday that over the past week there had been an average of 10 attacks each day. That, he said, was a 95 percent drop from the 180 attacks per day being experienced last year, American Forces Press Service reported Monday.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/12/22/Violence-in-Iraq-down-sharply/UPI-83331229987063/

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"Nope you can search it yourself, violence fell by 75% within the first six months of the surge and change in overall strategy was launched, in the 2-3 years since then violence has dropped by more than 95% since the surge was launched."

So you're patting yourself on the back for reducing the 180 attacks per day you actually caused? Heh, jeez..... thank heavens you guys have now been reduced to a small bitter, screaming minority these days and that nobody would be dumb enough to consider a similar approach for Iran or her nuclear bomb programme.

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Nope I'm patting myself on the back for proving that violence has dropped more than 95%. You didn't believe what I had said. In fact I will quote you!

Did you make that statistic up?

See you thought it wasn't true, I proved you wrong. Also why shouldn't they pat themselves on the back then for reducing the number of attacks they caused. To not reduce the number of attacks they caused would be irresponsible would it not?

Just deal with the fact that the USA and its allies have defeated the Insurgency. The USA occupation won!

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