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Obama getting infected by Bush virus, dangerous path ahead.

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More Obama saber-rattling. -but with more troops sent to Afghanistan I would expect Iran to be invaded (colonized) within 3 yrs.

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"Bush virus"

There is no Bush virus. Obama is simply in over his head.

"I would expect Iran to be invaded ( colonized ) within 3 years"

Ain't gonna happen. Can't colonize Iran and have nationalized health care and all these bailouts. And why would we want to colonize Iran, anyway?

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Obama says Iran on path to confrontation

Oh my, who could have possibly predicted this...

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There is no Bush virus. Obama is simply in over his head.

Yes, Obama is head and shoulders above Bush.

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"Obama is head and shoulders above Bush"

No, Obama is in over his head.

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No, Obama is in over his head

"Look at the moves of the last month. He scraps the missile defense in Eastern Europe, pleasing Russia, and moves the focus of defense to the Mediterranean, pleasing Israel.

He pwns Ahmadinejad at the UN by being the first president of the US to preside over the resolution to enforce nuclear non-proliferation.

He corrals the rhetorical support of the developing world, isolating Tehran still further. He hangs back a little and allows Brown and Sarkozy to do the heavy hitting on NoKo and Iran this past week, again revealing that the desire to curtail Ahmadinejad's nukes is not only an American project.

He busts Ahmadinejad in a air-tight case that focuses on active Iranian deception. All this, of course, may still not be enough. Putin's position remains opaque; and China is still not on the full wagon. But can anyone say that the isolation of Iran has weakened under Obama?

If you add to the mix the critical factor of the Green Revolution, then the West's position vis-a-vis Iran has improved immensely in the last eight months. And if you believe that Obama's Cairo speech was at least a positive factor in helping bring that about - then the promise of the Obama era in American foreign policy begins to take shape."

Weakness? There is sometimes more strength in projecting confidence rather than bluster, and seeking cooperation rather than ultimatums.

And now Russia says this new site must be investigated immediately, and the president will be visitng Beijing just before the santions resolution is to be taken up by the Security Council.

No one can know what the outcome of all this will be, but to suggest that Obama is in over his head is to ignore all that has happened over the past few months. It is no longer the US vs. Iran, but the world against Iran, a much stronger position for the US. Again can anyone say that the isolation of Iran has weakened under Obama? Obama looks more like Bush 41 in his handling of this situation.

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Obama thinks he projects FDR or JFK or even Reagan but all Iran sees is a new Carter in the White House...

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And why would we want to colonize Iran, anyway?

Actually the food is rather good. A bit heavy on the meat and herbs, but they do a very good kebab-type thing.

On a more serious note, I am a bit worried about comments like this coming from the President. With the ongoing commitments to Iraq and Afghanistan, the last thing the (US dominated) allies need is a bit of push and shove with Tehran. Unfortunately, Tehran realizes this and is upping the ante. I just hope Obama and friends handle this correctly. Iran can do all the saber-rattling it likes up to a point. Beyond that point, however, it should be slapped down so hard that its teeth rattle.

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KobeKid, nice post. Since Obama doesn't go around sounding boisterous and demanding that we are the leader of the pack and we are the only way, he must be weak. He's not weak, he's smart. < :-)

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No worries, Obama can handle it.........

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sarge: "No, Obama is in over his head."

I agree, but his head is still lords above bush's.

Anyway, sad to hear he's taken on a lot of the former moron's rhetoric. I especially love it when people tell others to 'come clean'. While I think Iran is not coming clean 100%, this is the same kind of 'show us your WMDs or we'll invade' logic that landed the US in the world of hurt it's in in Iraq. You can't 'come clean' about something you're telling the truth about (in general, not particularly here).

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Middle east/West/Iran faces more share of torture,from taking more path of confrontations.

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"Obama says....." is sure getting old, wonder when he is actually going to DO something about anything?

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Mr Smith, at least you can rest easy knowing that with Obama, unlike the previous "moron", it will be nothing but rhetoric.

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France's comments actually made them look like the hawk next to good ole Obama, what a welcome relief eh?

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Midnightpromise: "Mr Smith, at least you can rest easy knowing that with Obama, unlike the previous "moron", it will be nothing but rhetoric."

I would indeed rest easy if I thought that were certain to be the case, and I know that unlike the moron you and I both referred to Obama will try diplomacy before rushing into illegal invasion. Still, that the rhetoric coming from him is similar to his predecessor is a shame.

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Just look at the fans here of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the genocidal Shiite regime that appointed him.

Until recently I had always thought that the long and shameful leftist inclination to make apologies for totalitarians such as Fideal Castro or Mao Tse Tung or Josef Stalin was based in large part on an antipathy to religion they shared with these figures.

The appearance of this Ahmadinejad character though, makes me despair even more for democracy in the West. The man is bat sh-t crazy, touched by an insanity displaying clear and strong religious components, and still you can encounter on this forum someone like a Smith in Japan insisting it's 'moronic rhetoric' - no, not Holocaust-deniers who dream of a thermonuclear Final Solution - which poses the greatest threat to world peace.

Simply incredible.

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Obama says Iran on path to confrontation

Glad to see Obama's Harvard Education is finally paying off with that brilliant observation.

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"Just look at the fans here of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the genocidal Shiite regime that appointed him."

Ho-hum old friend - there is not one voice of support for Ahmadinejad on this thread so far solely one or two decent posts with the typical Obama bad/Bush bad and vice versa drivel the I've become acustomed to on JT.

I have to ask once again if these "fans" aren't simply a figment of your imagination.

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sailwind,

If only McCain were president....

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sailwind,

If only McCain were president....We'd already HAVE a nuclear war!

This is some pretty desperate spin going on here.

Iran notified the IAEA about construction of their new facility. That hardly seems consistent with the idea that Iran is keeping it a secret. No real surprise they are building it inside a mountain considering what Israel did to Osirik.

Now the US is trying to claim they knew about the facility all along, but does this make sense? Would it not have been in Israel's and the US's interests to expose the facility while it was still not reported to the IAEA? Such an expose' would have been very damaging to Iran and turned many other nations against Iran's power station.

So, what appears to have happened is that Iran notified the IAEA of the new facility and caught the US and Israel by surprise, because they should have known and apparently did not. So now the Us and Israel are standing there with egg on their faces trying to pull off a "we knew it all along" face-save.

This the same Israel that just told the UN to go screw itself regarding inspections of Israel's nuclear facilities?

This the same Israel who is refusing to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty?

Iran allows inspections.

Iran has signed the NNPT.

There is a thin line between Chutzpah and looking like a hypocritical ass and both Obama and Netanyahu just sailed over it. If Iran informed the IAEA about construction of the plant, then it is hardly secret.

I do not know what Israel pays the US to look this stupid, but it is not enough. As President of the only nation to actually USE a nuclear weapon against the civilians of another country, Obama should shut up.

It's obvious Netanyahu doesn't appreciate the bitter irony of his statements on this either in that:

Iran has no weapons of mass destruction: every single IAEA inspection has borne this out.

Israel does have weapons of mass destruction, but refuses to sign the NPT, allowing those weapons to be inspected.

A very nationalistic, Zionist religious fundamentalism which colors Israeli politics to the point where you hear the claim that Eretz Israel (the true Nation of Israel) should exist from the Nile to the Euphrates!

And the ultimate bitter irony:

“This should persuade any doubters that Iran’s program is not for peaceful purposes,” Acton said.

Given the fact that Iran has attacked nobody in more than 300 years, unlike the USA and Israel! 'Nuff said.

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Libertas,

Kind of hard to take you seriously on your comments about Israel considering you've written that both Jews and Israel are the same as the devil.

Oh, and who exactly says this:

which colors Israeli politics to the point where you hear the claim that Eretz Israel (the true Nation of Israel) should exist from the Nile to the Euphrates!

Thanks in advance!

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Sorry... I forgot:

We'd already HAVE a nuclear war!

Ummm...don't be rediculous...

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Iran notified the IAEA about construction of their new facility.

Mr. Obama said he had withheld making the intelligence public for months because it “is very important in these kind of high-stakes situations to make sure the intelligence is right”— a clear allusion to former President George W. Bush’s release of intelligence on Iraq seven years ago this month that proved baseless. Mr. Obama’s hand was forced, however, after Iran, apparently learning that the site had been discovered by Western intelligence, delivered a vague, terse letter to the International Atomic Energy Agency on Monday disclosing that it was building a second plant, one that it had never mentioned during years of inspections.

This is some pretty desperate spin going on here.

Talk about...

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' "Wasn't McCain the one singing, "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran?" So, by the man's own words I think it would be fair to say that we would already have a nuclear war had he been elected. '

Yeah. Except for that wee little body called the Congress, and things like the War Powers Act.

Of course, adults who have seen the tape of McCain singing his little ditty understand the spirit it was done in.

That ability is lost when too much Alex Jones and too much conspiracy theory has warped your mind.

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SmithInJapan: "Sad to hear he's ( Obama's ) taken on a lot of the former moron's ( George W. Bush's ) rhetoric"

Does that mean Obama is the current moron?

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Alex Jones?

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sailwind,

If only McCain were president....

Why? He couldn't grasp the obvious like President just did about Iran?

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There are no Ahmadinejad Fans on this site because, they don't use this site. Try asking yourself why. Think enlightenment.

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"Of course, adults who have seen the tape of McCain singing his little ditty understand the spirit it was done in."

Senile dementia?

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Asked about the prospect of using military force to stop Iran from getting the bomb, Obama said, “With respect to the military, I’ve always said that we do not rule out any options when it comes to U.S. security interests, but I will also re-emphasize that my preferred course of action is to resolve this in a diplomatic fashion. It’s up to the Iranians to respond.”

Well said and well played, Mr. President.

Taka

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It’s up to the Iranians to respond.” Well said and well played, Mr. President.

That's probably the dumbest thing I've seen here today.

To the US & Israel: You accuse (yes?) Y O U have the burden or proof.****

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"Still, that the rhetoric coming from him (Obama) is similar to his predecessor is a shame."

Hey, Smith! Weren't you the one flirting with Obama so much some time ago? Let's say some 10 months ago..;) Look at what you're saying now! Seems you change your opinion again and again according to the news you're reading.

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To the US and Israel: You accuse (yes?) Y O U have the burden or proof.

Iran has nuclear power plants, thousands of centrifuges, and enough uranium hexafluoride to make 100 bombs. That's all the proof necessary. Level it.

I will also re-emphasize that my preferred course of action is to resolve this in a diplomatic fashion. It’s up to the Iranians to respond.”

The Mullahs are laughing.

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First thing, Iran is very probable going to come down with a bad case in indignation just before October 1st. & refuse to attend any meetings. If your not there to tells lies you can’t be accused of lying.

Second thing, and this is seriously going to pxxx some people off, but we really are getting to the point where these arguments with religious nutters show we are never going to see an end to the pointless killing. The answer is fear, real & horrible fear, erase Tehran, simply remove it from the map & then tell Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan, North Korea & anybody else to get their houses in order or face the same consequences. All this drip, drip, drip killing is achieving nothing & will never bring an end to the madness that is Islamic extremism.

Horrible idea? Yes it is, I wouldn’t & couldn’t pretend otherwise. To do so would be a stupid lie. But ask yourselves, is the barbarity reducing, is a degree of understanding in the world increasing? A daily car bomb is becoming the norm & we are constantly being told that we should show tolerance to people that want nothing but the end of our world. The west is fighting a war with its hand tied by morality behind it’s back. A Muslim tourist from anywhere in the world can travel anywhere in the west without fear of getting his throat cut, because we are civilised. But do we have such freedoms?

At some point somebody is going to need to say enough is enough & actually do something that brings this ever growing madness to an end. When we are face by a wild animal that has no moral values talking will not stop it from ripping us apart. And from the point of view of these people who have closed their minds to reason that is what we are doing, talking to a creature that can not hear or understand us. Just what is it we are waiting for, an end to the world that we know, that we want to keep but will lose in time if we do nothing? Perhaps are so called leaders will act when a nuclear weapon does destroy one of our cities. But then why is it we have to wait to lose so many of our innocents before we act?

If the west did destroy Tehran tomorrow and did show that it would never again accept fear as a way of life for its people, making it plane that no country would be again allowed to become a threat there would be some unrest on the streets for a time, but no government in the world would risk that getting out of hand least it be their turn next. The west was strong when it was willing to act, when it was willing to fight, now all it does is try to calm and control. If it is a matter of fighting fire with fire we need to make up our minds to do just that and win, or give up and lose the world we want to pass on you our children. Our world, not theirs.

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Then bring it on "Grafton".

I happen to have moved to Iran recently on the prediction that non-religious "nutters" as your self would think that this would be a great solution. I'd rather die along with my Iranian, Afghan, Tajikistani, Iraqi, Senegal, and Nigerian friends (who somehow manage to happily, healthfully, peacfully get by on less than $100 a month), and the other remaining 70 million everyday people in Iran, than to take the side of a filthy rich, selfish, shameless, and consequently clueless, society that you live in.

See you on the other side Grafton, I hope your not serious, but am not surprised that there are many who think just like you. May God have mercy on you.

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