COVID-19 INFORMATION What you need to know about the coronavirus if you are living in Japan or planning a visit.
world

Obama says Romney cannot be trusted to deal honestly with public

134 Comments

The requested article has expired, and is no longer available. Any related articles, and user comments are shown below.

© (c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2012.

©2020 GPlusMedia Inc.

134 Comments
Login to comment

The master of equivocation speaks !!!!!! ...................All the more hillarious bc the jury is still out on the birther issue.

-7 ( +4 / -11 )

Romney was flopping around like a goldfish spilled on a carpet in this debate. The hysterical part was hearing him repeatedly paraphrase Obama's policies back as if they were counterpoints. Agreeing with much of the core of what Obama says is already being done on the foreign policy front.

When Romney isn't lying outright, misquoting himself or just missing the point, he seems to be eternally smirking.

This guy is a 1% who doesn't give a damn about working people or the truth. If working class Americans vote this guy in, well.... they deserve the hell he will create for them.

10 ( +15 / -4 )

Romney will change to extreme right fiscal and social policies once elected

1950 style social policy (pre-civil rights era)

1980 foreign policy (going into many more wars and bring back draft system)

1920 economic policy (old economic model increased by military spending)

Yes, as tkoind2 stated, this guy does not give a damn about working people. All these Romney fanatics have to think about going to wars if they are under 35....they deserve it. Good luck.

-1 ( +5 / -6 )

Again we have the pot calling the kettle black. Anyone who votes for either if these two deserves the ruination they will both cause.

-6 ( +4 / -10 )

"Romney will change to extreme right fiscal and social policies once elected."

Interesting you say that because I read an article about his term as governor of MA. Romney constantly touts the fact that he "reached across the aisle" to democrats, but from what I read, he did very little of that. He was more in your face confrontational who sometimes purposely provoked the other party.

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

All the more hillarious bc the jury is still out on the birther issue.

semperfi -- no, the only jury still out on that is you and Joe Arpaio, that moron sheriff in Arizona. That's LOL material and speaks volumes about the thinking behind your support of Romney.

1 ( +6 / -5 )

"Romney said Obama is resorting to attacks in the absence of new ideas of his own."

Classic, given that Romney has yet to offer any ideas at all, save that, "I'll fix this, and I'll fix that! How? Oh, well... I'll tell you after the election!"

1 ( +6 / -5 )

Uhm, Any politician cannot be trusted to deal honestly with public.

3 ( +4 / -1 )

Heh, Mitt criticizes Team Obama for a lack of ideas while offering none of his own.

Stay classy, Mitt!

Also funny albeit sad to see Mitt's "supporters" getting their hopes up about a possible Mitt victory.

Such fake enthusiasm for a fake candidate.

The perfect match. :-)

2 ( +6 / -4 )

Pot calling the kettle black! LMAO!!

0 ( +3 / -3 )

SS3: And you call Obama real? A guy that makes up "composite" people in his autobiography.

1 ( +6 / -5 )

Anyone that works 30 hours per week will be considered full time under Obamacare..

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obamacare-mandate-anyone-who-works-30-hour-week-now-full-time

This sure is going to stimulate job growth lol...

2 ( +5 / -3 )

Such fake enthusiasm for a fake candidate.

I have been preaching that for years at how fake Romney is.

12 ( +17 / -5 )

Obama

-14 ( +2 / -16 )

Good lord, this is what happens when you wake up cold and NO breakfast. I meant, Obama

-12 ( +3 / -15 )

Good lord, this is what happens when you wake up cold and NO breakfast. I meant, Obama

Thought you'd seen the light for a moment there, bass!

7 ( +10 / -3 )

Conservatives excel in fake -

fake enthusiasm for their man Mitt - (do any of them REALLY like Mitt?)

fake followers of Christianity - (do any of them REALLY obey the feachings of the Bible, or - like their man Mitt - is it all about having selective Romnesia about things they don't like?)

totally fake patriotism

fake support for freedoms - (their general interpretation of 'freedom' imvolves denying basic rights to choose to their own women, gays, lesbians, etc.)

fake economics (not one of them questions how Mitt Romney's plan of cutting taxes (= income) and increasing spending on the military is going to reduce the deficit.)

For today's conservatives, fake is real, black is white, true is false, and Mitt is a potential POTUS.

The humor value is priceless.

Good times. :-)

6 ( +11 / -5 )

Bass - "I have been preaching that for years at how fake Romney is."

Heh, amazing what comes out when the blinders come off.

Now, Bass is laying into his own team. Doesn't get much funnier than that. :-)

Bass, I know you're going to deny it saying it was a slip of the tongue and all that.

No, sorry mate - slips of the tongue always reveal a person's true thoughts.

Just look at all your Republican buddies like Todd Akin.

Heh, and like I was saying about conservatives' fake support for Romney - thanks for proving my point.

The conservative blame game continues.

Good times. :-)

8 ( +9 / -1 )

I have been preaching that for years at how fake Romney is.

LOL...Freudian slip? I learned one thing today: Bass is more logical and intelligent when he wakes up cold and before he has breakfast

5 ( +8 / -3 )

@global

Romney will change to extreme right fiscal and social policies once elected

I see, but going to the extreme LEFT as Obama has been doing is just fine, huh?

1950 style social policy (pre-civil rights era)

With Blacks suffering at an 14.4% unemployment rate and Hispanics at 11%, Obama has taken us back.

1980 foreign policy (going into many more wars and bring back draft system)

Reagan bankrupted the Soviet Union, was able to defeat communism and was influential in helping to push East Germany and West Germany to re-unify. No one mentioned anything about going to wars except liberals. Another scare tactic gone amuck.

1920 economic policy (old economic model increased by military spending)

Dismantling, the Socialist Obama agenda, creating jobs and strengthening the middle class by growth and limiting the size of government and yes, have a strong military, China is building theirs and we are decreasing ours and that's good? That is a recipe for disaster.

-8 ( +5 / -13 )

Bass - "Good lord, this is what happens when you wake up cold and NO breakfast. I meant, Obama."

Even your excuse is fake!

Great to see you agree Mitt Romney is fake.

In fact, I agree so wholeheartedly with you, I think your words need repeating:

BASS: "I have been preaching that for years at how fake Romney is."

Great times. :-)

4 ( +7 / -3 )

I see, but going to the extreme LEFT as Obama has been doing is just fine, huh?

What a joke, Obama is nowhere near the left. In fact he is right-wing.

-4 ( +4 / -8 )

Obama unveiled a glossy booklet outlining his second-term agenda, which will serve as an important prop for his massive grassroots network. The campaign said it will print 3.5 million copies for volunteers to distribute in door-to-door canvassing.

Does it come with a binder?

-2 ( +2 / -4 )

@luca

Thought you'd seen the light for a moment there, bass!

I'm ok now, had my oatmeal and I am ready to rock, This is why you should never skip breakfast, remember JT readers, it's the most important part of the day. Get that brain food in!

@Sushi

Heh, amazing what comes out when the blinders come off.

A Freudian slip, but NO blinders and you are not going to do the typical liberal BS talk that I feel differently from what I said. Don't even go there.

Now, Bass is laying into his own team. Doesn't get much funnier than that. :-)

Yawn, nice try, but no cigar.

Bass, I know you're going to deny it saying it was a slip of the tongue and all that.

It was and Oh, I am sorry, that I am NOT a god or perfect. I am human, hey, deal with it.

No, sorry mate - slips of the tongue always reveal a person's true thoughts.

So now you are Dr. Phil?? ROFL Whatever. I never believed that, think what you like and I know what I know.

Just look at all your Republican buddies like Todd Akin.

Has nothing to do with this topic.

Heh, and like I was saying about conservatives' fake support for Romney - thanks for proving my point.

I didn't prove ANY point, slip of the tongue and I do like Romney, personally, I have always been a Bush fan, but Romney is definitely a better and more defined and stronger leader than Obama.

The conservative blame game continues.

You mean, the liberal guilt game. lol

Good times. :-)

After my morning OJ, Hell yeah!!

-7 ( +3 / -10 )

@Mirai

Bass is more logical and intelligent when he wakes up cold and before he has breakfast

Couldn't have been! In the same dream, I was still married to my Ex!

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Sail, probably not, but Mitt's booklet of policy ideas will.

If he has any credible policy ideas.

Which he doesn't.

Sorry, why do you pretend to support Romney again??

2 ( +4 / -2 )

Bass - "A Freudian slip, but NO blinders and you are not going to do the typical liberal BS talk that I feel differently from what I said. Don't even go there."

Horse has bolted mate. Give up.

2 ( +5 / -3 )

Readers, please stop this childish bickering. If you are not willing to be tolerant of opposing views, then do not post here.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

I'll be the first to admit that Mitt romney wasn't my first choice. I didn't think him any different, really, than Mr. Obama. However, his debates ith the president convinced me that he is different, and that the GOP made a very good choice.

All that to say this: Mr. Obama has lied through his teeth about what happened in Benghazi, especiallyi n the first debate. The man cannot come clean with what happened, the White House STILL clinging to the "video protest" story. Mr. Obama also lied about how the drawing down of the US Navy "won't happen" when he was the one who not only introduced the legislation to do so, but has blocked efforts by congress to nullify this action to lessen the US Navy ships.

If there is anyone who has been proven to be dishonest and totally untrustworthy, it is Mr. Obama. His words here are naught but a desperate ploy by a sinking campaign that is desperate to win an election that he and they have already lost....

-3 ( +6 / -9 )

1950 style social policy (pre-civil rights era)

With Blacks suffering at an 14.4% unemployment rate and Hispanics at 11%, Obama has taken us back

bass, you totally dropped a ball here with no understanding US history.

1980 foreign policy (going into many more wars and bring back draft system)

Reagan bankrupted the Soviet Union, was able to defeat communism and was influential in helping to push East Germany and West Germany to re-unify. No one mentioned anything about going to wars except liberals. Another scare tactic gone amuck.

bass, here again, you have no economic understanding what Romney has been quietly saying over and over and yet you still have not getting it. Bringing the draft is easy as they do not have to start from the congress to reverse it. You cannot dodge it. You deserve it, bass.

1920 economic policy (old economic model increased by military spending)

Dismantling, the Socialist Obama agenda, creating jobs and strengthening the middle class by growth and limiting the size of government and yes, have a strong military, China is building theirs and we are decreasing ours and that's good? That is a recipe for disaster.

Apple has bigger cash flows than the whole US government.

0 ( +3 / -3 )

Sorry, Mr. Obama lied through is teeth in the 2nd debate, not the 1st, when he said he declared the Benghazi attack as an act of terror. My mistake about mixing up the debates....

-5 ( +2 / -7 )

Conservatives excel in fake -

Dems have them beat 10X over

fake enthusiasm for their man Mitt - (do any of them REALLY like Mitt?)

Actually, most do, especially now, but then again, there are many people that don't like Obama, but are too lazy to change drivers during an election period.

fake followers of Christianity - (do any of them REALLY obey the feachings of the Bible, or - like their man Mitt - is it all about having selective Romnesia about things they don't like?)

Obama would be the worst Christian then. "Love Thy neighbor", but snubs Israel, our biggest ally. Obama has selective memory aka Obamnesia

totally fake patriotism

Obama doesn't even know what that is, but he embraces Socialism, go figure.

fake support for freedoms - (their general interpretation of 'freedom' imvolves denying basic rights to choose to their own women, gays, lesbians, etc.)

Obama was never for gay marriage until a few months ago...hmmm....oh, yes, it's an election, he has to be if he wants the gay community votes.

fake economics (not one of them questions how Mitt Romney's plan of cutting taxes (= income) and increasing spending on the military is going to reduce the deficit.)

Obama has increased spending and watering down our military, it's no wonder our enemies are laughing at us and thinking we are a joke, plus funding Obamacare where Obama will have to borrow more money from China which will increase our debt and another 4 years to about $20T...nice, nice indeed.

For today's conservatives, fake is real, black is white, true is false, and Mitt is a potential POTUS.

Both Romney and Obama are politicians, both lie, but if I have a choice of eating fire and worms, then I would choose worms at least I don't have to get worried about being burned. Obama is that fire!

The humor value is priceless.

I think so!

Good times. :-)

After eating my yogurt and cream cheese bagel, Hell, yeah!!

-7 ( +4 / -11 )

Sorry, why do you pretend to support Romney again??

I don't pretend I do. And this is primary reason why. It's from what he said in the second debate.

And that is every middle-income taxpayer no longer will pay any tax on interest, dividends or capital gains, no tax on your savings.

That makes life a lot easier. If you're getting interest from a bank, if you're getting a statement from a mutual fund or any other kind of investments you have, you don't have to worry about filing taxes on that, because there will be no taxes for anybody making $200,000 a year and less on your interest, dividends and capital gains.

-3 ( +2 / -5 )

Obama was talking about himself. The record speaks volume and the numbers do not lie. He promised to cut deficit in half, instead increasing to $16 trillion! ($5T+). He said the bailed out was successful since U.S got every penny back, but GMAC still owes tax payer $11 billion ! He gaffed with Russia with hidden agenda of more flexible after the election! He said unemployment would be 5%+, since then is about 8%! He talks about helping middle class, but their income went down, gas, foods, insurances... are going up under his watch; it means they are paying more out of pocket than just his empty words. He claims of international alliances success, but always push the reset button with Russia plus China, both nations vetoes against U.S. most turns at U.N.! He talks about economic prosperity and opportunity for Muslims, and we do not even have that kind of opportunity in the U.S. All these are flimsy, fluke, or deception-ally abusing voters? Voting for Obama equals voting for a rerun of failure status quot. For Obamabots who worship the symbol, this reality check has no value. The openness of liberalism has turned to be narrow as socialism by using the mass to protect the interest of few groups that running voting block.

0 ( +4 / -5 )

@global

With Blacks suffering at an 14.4% unemployment rate and Hispanics at 11%, Obama has taken us back.

bass, you totally dropped a ball here with no understanding US history.

No, I did not, you liberals as well as the President will never answer that question.

bass, here again, you have no economic understanding what Romney has been quietly saying over and over and yet you still have not getting it. Bringing the draft is easy as they do not have to start from the congress to reverse it. You cannot dodge it. You deserve it, bass.

I do have economic understanding, I'm from CA and I see what liberal policies have done to bankrupt my state. That's Liberal policies and not to mention how Obama has run the economy. $5 gas, we would have never seen that under Bush. Sorry, global, keep drinking that kool-aid.

Apple has bigger cash flows than the whole US government.

And they never borrowed money from the Federal government, which is something that Obama doesn't understand, but Romney does.

-5 ( +2 / -7 )

Obama says Romney cannot be trusted to deal honestly with public

LOL

-4 ( +2 / -6 )

Freudian slip. n. (Psychology) any action, such as a slip of the tongue, that may reveal an unconscious thought.

So you're admitting that it was a freaudian slip...interesting

Definition:

Freudian slip. n. (Psychology) any action, such as a slip of the tongue, that may reveal an unconscious thought.

So Bass id admitting that he always thought Romney was fake...to that I say: I AGREE

5 ( +6 / -1 )

So Bass id admitting that he always thought Romney was fake...to that I say: I AGREE

It was a Cliche n. a trite phrase or expression; also the idea expressed by it. Nothing more. Been and always will be a Romney supporter.

but nice try. :-)

-7 ( +1 / -8 )

Obama is right. Romney spends more time lying than being truthful.

COMPLETELY TRUE STATEMENTS: Obama: 22% of the time. Romney? 16%.

MOSTLY TRUE STATEMENTS: Obama: 23% of the time. Romney? 13%

HALF-TRUE STATEMENTS: Obama: 26% of the time. Romney? 28%

MOSTLY FALSE STATEMENTS: Obama: 12% of the time. Romney? 17%

FALSE STATEMENTS: Obama: 14% of the time. Romney? 17%

COMPLETE BULLSHIT STATEMENTS: Obama: 2% of the time. Romney? 9%

Now, do the math. Who is the most trustworthy of the two?

(Source: Politifact - 10/18/12)

2 ( +6 / -3 )

Unemployment has dropped in Ohio and is lower than national average in NH, Wisconsin, Iowa and Virginia.

2 ( +4 / -2 )

Mirai Hayashi must be getting her numbers from the same source that -- quite conveniently -- stated that unemployment was 7.8% right after the first debate, in whcih Mr. Obama had his hat handed to him by Mr. Romney (especially with the glaring facts that Mr. Romney brought up, how the US unemployment rate was 8.0% or above for the 40-plus months of Mr. Obama's administration)....

-6 ( +1 / -7 )

Obama says Romney cannot be trusted to deal honestly with public

White House told of militant claim two hours after Libya attack: emails @ http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/24/us-usa-benghazi-emails-idUSBRE89N02C20121024

-3 ( +1 / -4 )

Mirai HayashiOct. 24, 2012 - 11:36AM JST : Unemployment has dropped in Ohio and is lower than national average in NH, Wisconsin, Iowa and Virginia.

Ohio's governor is a Republican.

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

ooo... a new guy...hello new guy!

Mirai Hayashi must be getting HIS numbers from the same source that -- quite conveniently -- stated that unemployment was 7.8% right after the first debate

What source would that be? You mean CNBC, NBC, CBC, ABC, HuffPost, Bloomberg, NYTimes, or just about ALL organization that reports real NEWS? Yes, you're right I got my info from those sources, unlike some conspiracy theorist who would rather get ALL of their news from FOX or listen to Jack Welch (who just blurted out that the numbers were fake - less than 5 minutes after the numbers were released - and admitted later that he had no proof and that he made it up)

especially with the glaring facts that Mr. Romney brought up

You mean the 24 myths that he told in 41 minutes?? Glaring is not the word I'd use...more like shocking or stunning that anyone could rattled them off with such a straight face. But at least Obama called him out on majority of them.

how the US unemployment rate was 8.0% or above for the 40-plus months of Mr. Obama's administration

Sure, as soon as Obama became president, 25M people quit their jobs and decided to collect the free welfare checks that Obama handed out on a Chicago street corner....except that, that didn't happen. If you are going to deny that economy crashed due to 8 years of Bush/Cheney stupidity, and recovery has been slow due to 2 years of gridlock by the a republican congress who made it public that their number one priority (their words -or the words of the weeping Cheeto that leads them) to make sure Obama doesn't get reelected, then you have been fully brainwashed by Fox News or other right winged propaganda mills that pretend to be news outlets, and hence you cannot be helped.

By the way, as it stands, dems have won 3 of the 4 debates (as reported by the news organizations named above -except for perhaps CNN who called two of them a draw for fear of being called "biased" from crazy right wing news outlets like Fox.

1 ( +3 / -2 )

Mirai HayashiOct. 24, 2012 - 12:38PM JST : What source would that be? You mean CNBC, NBC, CBC, ABC, HuffPost, Bloomberg, NYTimes, or just about ALL organization that reports real NEWS? Yes, you're right I got my info from those sources, unlike some conspiracy theorist who would rather get ALL of their news from FOX

All those sources lean to the left and to Obama with the exception of Fox News. That's seven against one. The left media has model after FN. The real question is do people have confidence when it comes the media?

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

Ohio's governor is a Republican.

John Kasich? Shall we talk about good ol' Jonny boy, Under John Kasich's tenure,14.2% of Ohioans are below the poverty line, 15% are on food stamps, and 2.2 million live in poverty. With a population of 11,544,951, impoverishment now stands at 19.05%. Source: Wikipedia

But I suppose in the bizarro backwards world that GOPer's live in, all of that is Obama's fault, and the credit for the recovering economy should all go to gov. John Kasich....

By the way, this is how Kasich feels about the Ohioan police officers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzLZe9sME4k

What a classy guy

2 ( +3 / -1 )

bass: "It was a Cliche n. a trite phrase or expression; also the idea expressed by it. Nothing more. Been and always will be a Romney supporter."

You said yourself only moments before that it was a 'Freudian slip', and now you're back-tracking and saying it was 'cliche'? Romnesia, anyone? It's good that at least at an unconcious level you agree with what Obama and most of the public thinks, for Obama is exactly correct that Romney cannot be trusted. Not only that, but cannot be trusted to do what? he hasn't even spelled out any plans yet, saying he'll explain after the election. Romney has flip-flopped on his stances so many times the only way his name can fit into a sentence with the word 'trust' is to ensure 'lack of' is in there as well.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

All those sources lean to the left and to Obama with the exception of Fox News.

Wrong again Bob!

CNBC leans right. Bloomberg also leans right (depending on the story). CNN is too chickensh!t of Fox to lean left so they "try" to stay neutral. And not only the news organization I named called the debates an Obama, several others did as well...but of course, to you only Fox is right, because they are "Fair and Balanced"....except they aren't.

3 ( +5 / -2 )

@skipbeat

You're are making really dumb arguments without knowing the facts behind them -but I guess all neocons do that, so nothing new there.

This so called "Obama phone" project was started under....yes you get it, George W. Bush! It was an initiative created by Rep. Tim Griffin who is......yup, you guessed it, a republican!!!

According to Griffin, the government said that landlines were not enough and the program was expanded to include free cell phones.

ooopsie doopsie...thanks for the interesting yet pointless story though

0 ( +3 / -3 )

Forget the news media (all of them), the polls, the pundits and the debates. Since 2009 gas has over doubled to $5 a gallon, food prices are way up, utilities are way up, media household income has dropped $4,000, 23 million people are either unemployed, under employed, or working p/t since they cannot find full time work, 4 trillion dollars has been added to the national debt, green energy projects that turned into money pits, 47 million people are on food stamps and it goes on and on. If Obama's economic plan (in his glossy booklet) doesn't include "The Second Coming" the next four years are going to make the last four years look like paradise. Time for a change -- let's judge this president on his record -- just the facts....

-6 ( +1 / -7 )

Mirai HayashiOct. 24, 2012 - 01:01PM JST : Wrong again Bob! CNBC leans right.

According to some it leans left. That depends on the day.

-4 ( +0 / -4 )

@global

With Blacks suffering at an 14.4% unemployment rate and Hispanics at 11%, Obama has taken us back.

bass, you totally dropped a ball here with no understanding US history.

No, I did not, you liberals as well as the President will never answer that question.

It has been explained, bass. Liberals including myself have been telling you the key is a quality of EDUCATION. And this is a big agenda of Obama plan. This ideology has been derived from the Wealth of Nation. As you know Romney likes teachers as well Obama, but he is cutting education fund, GI bills, and Sally Mae.

I do have economic understanding, I'm from CA and I see what liberal policies have done to bankrupt my state. That's Liberal policies and not to mention how Obama has run the economy. $5 gas, we would have never seen that under Bush. Sorry, global, keep drinking that kool-aid.

Bass, I do not believe so. Please go back and check your transcripts. I have asked basic questions in economic theory to you in the past, none of them have been answered and I decided to let them go.

First of all, the price of gas will come down after the election. The election has been controlled by the oil tycoons; the Koch Brothers. In addition to that, keep it mind, the oil price is based on dollar. The currency value declines when the debt increases. Remember Bush passed on a huge debt of $11 trillions to Obama, Remember, there are two critical elements in Bush failing economic policy as listed below"

1) Tax breaks to the riches without closing loopholes and spending cuts. It takes both ends to balance the badget.

2) Two wars with American Express cards without no exit plans. We are spending $2 billion EVERY WEEK.

The money should be spent here in US for education, repairing airports, roads, bridges. Look at LAX airport, and train station down town, they are not updated with modern equipments. Look at US education level, we can hardly compete in global economy as students are not getting a quality of education. We need to do more, so that people do not have to go abroad to chase jobs. We need to bring jobs here in US. We need to spend more on education, so that kids do not have to go to streets selling cokes. When kids are driven to higher educations to excel. we are providing them tools to suceed in global economy. The outcome is more revenue inflow to the state.

Apple has bigger cash flows than the whole US government.

And they never borrowed money from the Federal government, which is something that Obama doesn't understand, but Romney does.

Apple is in the middle class Obama has been talking about while military spending is a topdown theory Romney has been talking about.

I believe you are shifting focus to other issue here. You are talking against Auto Bailout. That was the right thing to do as there were no investment bankers, in private sector, willing to take that risks. Remember President saved jobs and auto industry. They already paid off the debt. Tax payers through FED made money on that. So it was a win-win financial rescue plan.

.

2 ( +3 / -1 )

Mirai HayashiOct. 24, 2012 - 01:01PM JST : but of course, to you only Fox is right, because they are "Fair and Balanced"....except they aren't.

When FN have two opposing side on the show it can be consider "Fair and Balanced." Just because the other news media doesn't say "Fair and Balanced" means they are objective either.

The other media complaining about FN is ironic when they (mainstream media and cable news) do the same thing as FN. It depends on the person if they leans left or right and which media they prefer.

With the media being either liberal or conservative, people shoud do their own homework when it comes to the facts and the truth when news media reports them.

Journalism is dead and news have become opinion and bias news.

-2 ( +1 / -3 )

Barack Obama is questioning Mitt Romney's integrity? Give me a break! "If you like your health insurance and doctor, you can keep them." LIE! When Obama-care kicks in, most of the existing policies won't qualify and can't be renewed. Doctor? When the new compensation rates start, a lot of them will either leave their practices or go to "cash in fist". Health Savings Accounts (HSA) are only available to those with high-deductible policies. The catch is those policies are also non-compliant and won't exist anymore. Result: NO HSA. Starting in 2012-2013, HSAs have been limited and special restrictions have been imposed on their use greatly reducing their utility. When he thought there were no microphones in the area, he was overheard telling Mr. Medvedev that "he could be more flexible after the election". The obvious question is "flexible" with what??? This conversation was with Vlad Putin's #2 man. Where do the American people fit in? What's the difference between Watergate and the Fast & Furious gun running operation? Answer: Nobody died during Watergate.

On the other hand, Mitt Romney saved the 2002 Winter Olympics and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts from bankruptcy. Oh, BTW, Candidate Obama promised to cut the deficit in half back in 2008. Where is it now?

-5 ( +3 / -8 )

Forget the news media (all of them), the polls, the pundits and the debates. Since 2009 gas has over doubled to $5 a gallon, food prices are way up, utilities are way up, media household income has dropped $4,000,....blah blah blah

Seen this a billion times from you guys and I always say the same thing: US economy failed in 2008 (I would even argue 2007 -but we know 2008 for sure) BEFORE Obama took office, and continued to fail after he took the reigns. Even the hardcore neocons know and say that Obama inherited a tanked economy from Bush. Could the recovery go faster? Definitely YES. Is it going to go faster. Depends on whether or not congress releases the grid lock that they have been causing for the last 2 years. Personally (and this is where I get critical of Obama) I think Obama needs be A LOT MORE tougher and put these tea bagging republicans in their place, by initiating tough sanctions on them and calling them out BY NAME in public in their home state.

According to some it leans left. That depends on the day.

Sure..just like some say that Fox New is left leaning...except NO ONE says that.

2 ( +4 / -2 )

huh

0 ( +1 / -1 )

Mirai HayashiOct. 24, 2012 - 12:55PM JST : John Kasich? Shall we talk about good ol' Jonny boy, Under John Kasich's tenure,14.2% of Ohioans are below the poverty line, 15% are on food stamps, and 2.2 million live in poverty. With a population of 11,544,951, impoverishment now stands at 19.05%. Source: Wikipedia

According to you, "Unemployment has dropped in Ohio and is lower than national average in NH, Wisconsin, Iowa and Virginia."

-4 ( +0 / -4 )

-1

Jason LovelaceOct. 24, 2012 - 11:45AM JST

Mirai Hayashi must be getting her numbers from the same source that -- quite conveniently -- stated that unemployment was 7.8% right after the first debate, in whcih Mr. Obama had his hat handed to him by Mr. Romney (especially with the glaring facts that Mr. Romney brought up, how the US unemployment rate was 8.0% or above for the 40-plus months of Mr. Obama's administration)....

Jason, I do not know what you are teaching in Virginia Tech. I just want to tell you that this recession is not a normal recession. We should be thankful we did not go into the 2nd Depression. Having said that, I believe Obama team has been doing a good job while UK unemployment is at 15% and Spain at 25%. We are not out of woods yet and we are facing many economic challenges while EU and Japan in recession and China is slowing down.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

When FN have two opposing side on the show it can be consider "Fair and Balanced." Just because the other news media doesn't say "Fair and Balanced" means they are objective either.

LOL...and that's suppose to make them neutral? You don't get it. Neutral doesn't mean to have both sides on the show, it means to not be partisan, which FOX clearly is. And BTW, the very few left leaners on FOX are complete and utter wimps who are planted there and paid to give into the right winged pundits on FOX. Joe Trippi is a classic example of this. Its like watching the Harlem Globtrotters play the Washington Generals when he's on air with Karl Rove. When Rove b!tch slaps him, Trippi screams HARDER! just like all of the other liberal plants on FOX.

1 ( +4 / -3 )

Mirai HayashiOct. 24, 2012 - 01:10PM JST: @skipbeat You're are making really dumb arguments without knowing the facts behind them -but I guess all neocons do that, so nothing new there.

It doesn't take a genius to know which media leans to the left or right. Their program with the guests says it all. A person does not need to be a "neocons" to tell them apart.

This so called "Obama phone" project was started under....yes you get it, George W. Bush! It was an initiative created by Rep. Tim Griffin who is......yup, you guessed it, a republican!!!

The Republicans actually did something nice. What would happened if the people knows that it started by Bush? Who would they vote?

People having access to cellphones is a good thing because pay phones have become almost obsolete in the country.

-4 ( +0 / -4 )

Mirai HayashiOct. 24, 2012 - 01:45P: LOL...and that's suppose to make them neutral? You don't get it. Neutral doesn't mean to have both sides on the show, it means to not be partisan, which FOX clearly is.

"Fair and Balance" does not translate to neutral or bipartisan news reporting. What you are seeking is non-existing journalism. I would like to see objective news reporting from all the media, but that is not going to happen.

At this time people have a choice to watch whichever news channel they want. The same for the news channels.

Once in a while FN, WSJ, the NYT, and Huffington Post etc. have interesting articles to read.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

@Smith

Like most liberals, you love to distort the facts. I admit to nothing, I made a mistake, I corrected it, I am allowed to do that as you do as well. I still and will always think that Obama is a lying sack of potatoes. That's my opinion and my thought process, just to be clear.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

@Mirai

CNBC leans right. Bloomberg also leans right (depending on the story). CNN is too chickensh!t of Fox to lean left so they "try" to stay neutral. And not only the news organization I named called the debates an Obama, several others did as well...but of course, to you only Fox is right, because they are "Fair and Balanced"....except they aren't.

Sigh, As I told you before, I worked in the business and YES, FOX is mostly Fair and Balanced, think what you want, you are entitled to believe and have your own opinions, but you are NOT entitled to your own facts. Does FOX tend to tilt a bit more to the right, yeah, so what? When I was there, it was about almost 50/50 make up and a mixture of Liberals, Traditionalists and Conservatives, throw in some Libertarians in as well. I have friends in Atlanta and in LA at CNN, LA Times and other states. Most of the people at CNN are NOT bomb throwers except for that idiot Rick Sanchez who made quite a bit of enemies there. And when I was at NBC, it was so off the chain Progressively left, insane, that's why I left and a lot of good people left, because that once great TV network was overrun with crazy ideologues.

You don't like FOX, I get it, but I really saw and worked with great people and they do have some crazy liberals there as well and a few over the top conservative, there is NO such thing as a perfect News outlet, but by far FOX most definitely beats everyone else out there.

-6 ( +1 / -7 )

Jason LovelaceOct. 24, 2012 - 10:44AM JST

I'll be the first to admit that Mitt romney wasn't my first choice. I didn't think him any different, really, than Mr. Obama. However, his debates ith the president convinced me that he is different, and that the GOP made a very good choice.

Jason, may I ask what made your mind to change? Very interesting to know.

All that to say this: Mr. Obama has lied through his teeth about what happened in Benghazi, especiallyi n the first debate. The man cannot come clean with what happened, the White House STILL clinging to the "video protest" story

Jason, do you know something else that we do not know? Would you like to share that?

Mr. Obama also lied about how the drawing down of the US Navy "won't happen" when he was the one who not only introduced the legislation to do so, but has blocked efforts by congress to nullify this action to lessen the US Navy ships

Can you find the legistation number, so I can read it. Thanks.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

skipbeatOct. 24, 2012 - 12:37PM JST

Mirai HayashiOct. 24, 2012 - 11:36AM JST : Unemployment has dropped in Ohio and is lower than national average in NH, Wisconsin, Iowa and Virginia.

Ohio's governor is a Republican.

Yep, Scott Walker Mr. the Tea Party endorsed by Karl Rove!! He is having a hard time to keep Wisconsin Red. Probably, this will be his last term. I do not know what you are hearing, but he cannot create more jobs.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

@global

It has been explained, bass. Liberals including myself have been telling you the key is a quality of EDUCATION. And this is a big agenda of Obama plan.

Conservatives want that as well, but paying School teachers 75K a year from Tax payers and the result like in Chicago where less than 30% of the kids graduate, what does that say about our education system. Obama has not made that a first priority and why should he worry, his kids go to private schools, spare me.

This ideology has been derived from the Wealth of Nation. As you know Romney likes teachers as well Obama, but he is cutting education fund, GI bills, and Sally Mae.

I am aware of that. We have to stop the bleeding first. Sometimes you have to cut off a limb to save the rest of the body.

I do not believe so. Please go back and check your transcripts. I have asked basic questions in economic theory to you in the past, none of them have been answered and I decided to let them go.

I did answer it quite a few times in the past, maybe you were not paying attention, also there is no need to further elaborate and belabor the point! You know Romney and most Conservatives want to increase growth and create jobs and concentrate on building a stronger private sector. Simply or basically put, leave more money for Americans and stop taking money to spend it on pet projects that liberals create and fail almost every single time.

1) Tax breaks to the riches without closing loopholes and spending cuts. It takes both ends to balance the badget.

Meaning both parties?

2) Two wars with American Express cards without no exit plans. We are spending $2 billion EVERY WEEK.

That's chump change for Obama, he's borrowing over 3.5 billion a week and don't BS, it's not all for covering the cost of the war. Now, you really don't believe that do you? If you do.....

First of all, the price of gas will come down after the election. The election has been controlled by the oil tycoons; the Koch Brothers.

You believe that??? OMG, global! What have you been reading? Seriously dude, I am just shocked! Wow!

The money should be spent here in US for education, repairing airports, roads, bridges. Look at LAX airport, and train station down town, they are not updated with modern equipments. Look at US education level, we can hardly compete in global economy as students are not getting a quality of education. We need to do more, so that people do not have to go abroad to chase jobs. We need to bring jobs here in US. We need to spend more on education, so that kids do not have to go to streets selling cokes. When kids are driven to higher educations to excel. we are providing them tools to suceed in global economy. The outcome is more revenue inflow to the state.

Glad you brought it up and NONE of that was done or even considered the last 4 years. In a nutshell, Obama was too busy trying to ram this crappy Obamacare through, instead of doing what you just said. 4 years wasted. Are we better off, my ass!

I believe you are shifting focus to other issue here. You are talking against Auto Bailout. That was the right thing to do as there were no investment bankers, in private sector, willing to take that risks. Remember President saved jobs and auto industry. They already paid off the debt. Tax payers through FED made money on that. So it was a win-win financial rescue plan.

I think he should have let them fail, file for bankruptcy, restructure and in the end, it would've been much better then to have the federal government get involved in that and wiping out all the GE stock holders. So now is Obama going to do the same for American Airlines? I mean, why stop there?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/louiswoodhill/2012/08/15/general-motors-is-headed-for-bankruptcy-again/

All of that and for what? This is why BIG government is the absolute worst thing for America and for American Business.

-6 ( +0 / -6 )

I think comments like that are coming a bit close to trolling.

Funny, I don't hear you saying anything about it when liberals troll, since they outnumber us here on JT 2 to 1. You should be outraged, right? If that's the case.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

skipbeatOct. 24, 2012 - 12:50PM JST

Mirai HayashiOct. 24, 2012 - 12:38PM JST : What source would that be? You mean CNBC, NBC, CBC, ABC, HuffPost, Bloomberg, NYTimes, or just about ALL organization that reports real NEWS? Yes, you're right I got my info from those sources, unlike some conspiracy theorist who would rather get ALL of their news from FOX

All those sources lean to the left and to Obama with the exception of Fox News. That's seven against one. The left media has model after FN. The real question is do people have confidence when it comes the media?

skipbeat, I watch FOX for entertaining to see their holes in claims.

You mean CNBC, NBC, CBC, ABC, HuffPost, Bloomberg, NYTimes, or just about ALL organization that reports real NEWS?

skipbeat, I also watch these stations including CNN, WSJ, Times, Economist, Newsweek, BBC to see their holes in claims. It is not easy for them to coordinate holes at the same time when delivering news. There are still good professional journalists with fact finding skills. I assume you are thinking of conspiracy in journalism. Still many good ones out there.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

@Skipbeat

The Republicans actually did something nice. What would happened if the people knows that it started by Bush? Who would they vote?

Bwahahahahaha! ROTFLMAO!! Republican hypocrisy knows NO BOUNDS!! YOU KNOW you were trying to make this into an Obama thing when you posted that video, but when I told you it was a republican initiative, all of a sudden it's the greatest thing since sliced bread! This is so ridiculous, not even worth talking about anymore. You're done son, come back when you're REALLY ready to go toe to toe with me.

@Bass

You don't like FOX, I get it, but I really saw and worked with great people and they do have some crazy liberals there as well and a few over the top conservative

I read Fox News all the time just to keep myself centered. But you've got to be a REAL BIG DUMMY to think they are fair and balanced. They are far from it. All news outlets are biased to some degree but most of them at least try to hover around the center. CNN is just annoying because they are neutral in areas where they shouldn't be. Their own polls say that Obama won by a clear margin and yet Wolf Blitzer calls it draw every single time.

FOX News is extreme right. The have Mike Huckabee and Sarah Palin as regular contributors for pete sakes, doesn't that tell you anything???

According to you, "Unemployment has dropped in Ohio and is lower than national average in NH, Wisconsin, Iowa and Virginia."

Yup...and if you can't understand the difference between the unemployment rate and the poverty line, then I can't help you...go look it up...Google is your friend (unless, like most republicans, you don't like facts)

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

Romeny can not be trusted. How about Obama? How about other presidents? He said he will half deficit in first term. It has increased. Bush senior said read my lips for tax . Clinton said I have never smoked with that woman. Bush junior said mission accomplished and Saddam gonna to destroy the world with WMD. Regan said let'the market wild. Prosperity will fall from sky.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

@Mirai

I read Fox News all the time just to keep myself centered. But you've got to be a REAL BIG DUMMY to think they are fair and balanced. They are far from it. All news outlets are biased to some degree but most of them at least try to hover around the center. CNN is just annoying because they are neutral in areas where they shouldn't be. Their own polls say that Obama won by a clear margin and yet Wolf Blitzer calls it draw every single time.

Well, that's your OPINION, I worked there, so I know without a doubt how the operation is run and they are NOT bias, far from it. Most people in LA and NY were really nice, courteous and straight forward.

FOX News is extreme right. The have Mike Huckabee and Sarah Palin as regular contributors for pete sakes, doesn't that tell you anything???

Conservative and Extreme right are two entirely different things. Mike is a Conservative, NOT "Ultra" or a "Neo-Con" plus, he plays a mean BASS! Never got a chance to meet former Gov. Palin. but would have loved to.

-6 ( +0 / -6 )

Yup...and if you can't understand the difference between the unemployment rate and the poverty line, then I can't help you...go look it up...Google is your friend (unless, like most republicans, you don't like facts)

I do know and you just described CA to a tee! A third world, almost impoverished state. That Utopian place for all Liberals. Keep it!

-6 ( +0 / -6 )

Im not surprised bybthe fact that most of the contributors on here are Obama disciples. Mostly Americans living the good life in Japan, and not knowing the state of their own country under the Obama dictatorship. A president who has made more Executive Orders under his tenure than all previous presidents put together, and most of which take away previously cherished American freedoms and replace them with Obama invasions of privacy and personal freedom. No doubt they have all alady voted for their Great One. The people will decide soon, and I hope they choose the American, even though he is not perfect.

-3 ( +1 / -4 )

"Obama says Romney cannot be trusted to deal honestly with public"

And Obama would be 100% correct.

How many hot-button issues had Romney changed his stance on over the past year? Healthcare reform. Tax code reform. Immigration reform. Automaker bailouts. U.S. troops in the Middle East. Gay marriage. Abortion. Pick an issue and you can find Romney going back and forth once, twice, and even three or more times on his support of said issue, depending entirely on where he stands in the polls.

This man is not presidential material. He is a garden-variety political huckster who say or be anything his campaign managers demand of him in order give the wealthy Americans who support him an opportunity to return to the “business as usual” madness that brought America to this economic precipice it finds itself in.

To hell with this latest incarnation of the fractured GOP’s vision for America’s future. America may not be able to bounce back from another administration dominated by their unique brand of greed.

2 ( +3 / -1 )

In response to Obama's unveiling of a glossy booklet outlining his second-term agenda, Romney sniffed, "Heck, I have almost a dozen of those from different stages of my campaign, and he only has one?"

0 ( +0 / -0 )

I have been preaching that for years at how fake Romney is.

Bass4Funk, this is interesting how this "accidental" comment is actually viewed by reader as one of your better contributions to JT (based on "thumbs up"...in fact better than dozens of your other posts put together).

Before you slam away, I am actually one of he few posters that sometimes gives you "thumbs up" on some comments.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

How can a man that hides his tax returns from voters unlike every other candidate since his own Dad ran for office be trusted?

Maybe he didn't want Americans to see how he reamed the financial meltdown as many Americans got evicted from their homes......

2 ( +3 / -1 )

Spot-on comment by Meyerson in the WaPo:

While Romney has become a general-election tabula rasa, he sits atop what may be the most radical major political party in American history. Regardless of Milquetoast Mitt’s positions, a government with a Republican president and Republicans in control of the House and Senate would use its budget-reconciliation powers (which enables a Senate majority to sidestep the 60-vote requirement so frequently used to stymie legislation) to defund or repeal not only the health-care guarantees and financial regulations that Obama signed into law but also much of the education funding and regulatory safeguards on which Americans have depended for decades.

A vote for Romney is a vote for the Tea Party.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

I don't understand how Romney can blast Obama about not balancing a budget in 4 years and turn around in the same debate and say, "Come on our website. You look at how we get to a balanced budget within eight to 10 years. We do it by getting — by reducing spending in a whole series of programs.". He's obviously lying to the American people and nothing he says can be trusted, except when he says, "Hi, my name is Mitt Romney.".

4 ( +5 / -1 )

bass4funk: "Well, that's your OPINION..."

Mirai was stating facts, not opinion -- there's a big difference. FOX is anything BUT fair and balanced -- and that's fact.

1 ( +3 / -2 )

Allow me to correct, the black pot calling the kettle black.. Both sides of the same coin, folks. Voters getting duped by the duplicious duo.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

Mirai Hayashi Oct. 24, 2012 - 12:38PM JST

Not a new guy. Been around in JT for awhile, just under a different name, thanks to my accounts being fused.

As far as all those "news" sources you named, I agree with the poster that said all of those are left wing and liberally leaning. HuffPo can no more be trusted with true news than The Weekly World News. Ariana Huffington is no more a reporter than the man in the moon (actually, she's a leftist shill who wouldn't know what true reporting was if it slapper heri n the face). Per the reporting concerning the debates, it is truly glaring to see how the media has stated that Obama/Biden "won" overall, yet lost on points and substance.

And you can "blame Bush" all you wish: seems to be a talking point tres necessaire for the left. Can't come up with solutions to your problems? Blame Bush. Can't tell the public with a straight face that your policies over the last four years have failed? Blame Bush. Can't honestly explain with a straight face why our ambassador in Libya was allowed to be hung out to dry and murdered? Blame Bush. Except that isn't how its done. In fact, the economic mess began when the Democrats took control of both houses in 2007. Up until then, the economy was roaring thanks in large part to the Bush tax cuts (that's something you can "blame Bush" for).

And yes, Fox News. Amazing, isn't it, that Fox News bests MSNBC, CNN, CNBC, C-Span, and Headline News by a large margin? In fact, isn't it further interesting that Fox News has been declared fair and balanced time and time again throughout the years? Say what you wish about Fox News, but they're doubling the ratings of their nearest cable competitors by a 2:1 margin combined...

-2 ( +2 / -4 )

@smith

Mirai was stating facts, not opinion -- there's a big difference. FOX is anything BUT fair and balanced -- and that's fact.

There is a very big difference, I worked there and 2 other networks, therefore it is just his opinion how he feels. If he worked alongside me and could have witness the daily operations, then I would hold my tongue, but he hasn't, therefore, opinions mean nothing. That's the hard fact. So they are most definitely Fair and Balanced and to go further, most of the brightest liberals I met during my time were at FOX.

-4 ( +0 / -4 )

Obama says Romney cannot be trusted to deal honestly with public

Heh, this coming from the guy who way back in 2008 campaigned on the promise to have "the most transparent administration" evah.

RR

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

"Stay classy, Mitt!"

Yeah, more like, stay classy, Obama.

It's too bad Obama couldn't maintain the class he showed at the end of that comedy fundraiser last week.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

Jason, at equal points in the Bush and Obama presidencies, under Bush, private job creation was -1.7%; at least under Obama, it is a smidgen above plus. The eight years of the Bush presidency saw the lowest level of job creation since the Great Depression. His tax cuts wreaked havoc on federal finances - and he didn't even have the guts to make them permanent (sunsetting them allowed long-term fiscal projections to essentially lie and dumped the problem in his successor's lap). His wars added $2 trillion to the national debt - all borrowed.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/06/01/493849/obama-bush-jobs-record/

Obama's failures are owned by him, to be sure - but he did not inherit the rosy economy that Bush did from Clinton. THe economy is coming back, financial stability is being restored, and a balanced mix of revenues and spending restraint will result again in a balanced budget, just as they did during Clinton's term.

Bush trashed the place - and now you would like to go back to the same policies? Romnesia - please see a doctor.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

I was talking to a big O fan earlier today and even he admitted that things like "Romnesia", "1980's called...", "bayonets and horses" were petty and childish, not traits befitting a president. He said he's disappointed that Obama -- whom he vigorously campaigned for -- chose to go from hope to snark. Now, he agrees that it's time to let 'em go.

RR

-4 ( +0 / -4 )

"from hope to snark"

Or, from hope to just plain rude.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Really? I was talking to a big M fan earlier today and even he admitted that things like "Romnesia", "1980's called...", "bayonets and horses" were pretty clear clues that Romney has no idea what he is getting himself into, and thus are not traits befitting a president. He said he's disappointed that Romney -- whom he vigorously campaigned for -- chose to go from "severely conservative" to some sort of Huggy Bear cypher. Now, he agrees that it's time to let 'em go.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

@Mirai

I read Fox News all the time just to keep myself centered. But you've got to be a REAL BIG DUMMY to think they are fair and balanced. They are far from it. All news outlets are biased to some degree but most of them at least try to hover around the center. CNN is just annoying because they are neutral in areas where they shouldn't be. Their own polls say that Obama won by a clear margin and yet Wolf Blitzer calls it draw every single time.

Well, that's your OPINION, I worked there

bass, so you have worked for NBC AND FOX, (I have your transcripts).. Very interesting. Whoever hired you ignored your job experience history.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

It's true. You can't trust Romney. And here is why:

what does that guy really think? About anything? Where does he stand? On everything?

No body knows.

4 ( +4 / -0 )

Romney LOOKs untrustworthy! His manner gives me the shivers. Those forced fake smiles evoke a vaguely serial killer ambiance. I wouldn't trust this cheesy creature with a ten foot pole. He reminded me of the car salesman in"Fargo".

May Obama clean up once again.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

Just because DanMan doesn't know where Romney stands on anything doesn't mean nobody knows.

Psst, Danman - he stands for making the rich even richer - I heard that from a liberal, so it must be true.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

Probably CHAMADE can't understand why Romney is neck-and-neck with Obama in most polls.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Jason LovelaceOct. 24, 2012 - 08:41PM JST

Mirai Hayashi Oct. 24, 2012 - 12:38PM JST

Not a new guy. Been around in JT for awhile, just under a different name, thanks to my accounts being fused

I know who you used to be. Sounds like old furniture store going into liquidation sale and starting a new store. Still show your color.

HuffPo can no more be trusted with true news than The Weekly World News. Ariana Huffington is no more a reporter than the man in the moon (actually, she's a leftist shill who wouldn't know what true reporting was if it slapper heri n the face).

Ariana Huffington was married to Michael Huffington (billionaire) served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Negotiations Policy with responsibility for conventional arms control negotiations. He was awarded the Secretary of Defense Medal for outstanding public service. She is very bright and not a no-brainer as you described. That's your opinion.

And you can "blame Bush" all you wish: seems to be a talking point tres necessaire for the left. Can't come up with solutions to your problems? Blame Bush. Can't tell the public with a straight face that your policies over the last four years have failed? Blame Bush.

I will. Obama has been mopping the mess Bush created. Even GOP and Karl Rove advised Bush to stay away from NRC. LOL He was the WORST PRESIDENT OF US HISTORY.

In fact, the economic mess began when the Democrats took control of both houses in 2007

Fact check, When Bush took office, he inherited SURPLUS from Bill Clinton. Bush ended his term with $11 trillion DEBT.

And yes, Fox News. Amazing, isn't it, that Fox News bests MSNBC, CNN, CNBC, C-Span, and Headline News by a large margin? In fact, isn't it further interesting that Fox News has been declared fair and balanced time and time again throughout the years? Say what you wish about Fox News, but they're doubling the ratings of their nearest cable competitors by a 2:1 margin combined...

I am still waiting for your response addressed to you.

Fact eheck-FOX is a propaganda machine supported by GOP and right wingers. If that's the only channel you have been watching, I hate to tell you you are missing alot of good stuffs in reality. It is your loss.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Sorry, but that has to be a joke, right? Mr. ,Transparent Government' who did everything the citizens didn't want behind their back to force through legislation? What a bloody joke.

Interesting you say that because I read an article about his term as governor of MA. Romney constantly touts the fact that he "reached across the aisle" to democrats, but from what I read, he did very little of that.

And I read just the opposite. In case you haven't figured it out yet you can read whatever you want on the Internet and it all depends upon the source. If your a liberal, you read the liberal press and they'll tell you how evil Mitt is. If you read the conservative press they'll tell you the opposite. I can read Mein kampf but that doesn't make what contained within true.

Romney LOOKs untrustworthy! His manner gives me the shivers. Those forced fake smiles evoke a vaguely serial killer ambiance. I wouldn't trust this cheesy creature with a ten foot pole. He reminded me of the car salesman in"Fargo".

Really? I'm afraid to ask what you look like then. Mitt looks pretty distinguished and poised. I prefer that and think it more presidential than looking angry, cynical and worried. Or do you prefer the look of the wild-eyed old Crazy Joe Biden? Although I suppose judging by the looks of the average liberal I shouldn't wonder.

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

@globalwatcher.

FACT CHECK. You are confusing the budget surplus ( a yearly figure) and the national debt (the accumulation of all budgets). Clinton left the former, but the latter was still in the 6 trillion dollar range. Bush, to his detriment, added 5 trillion in 8 years to the debt. Bad on him. Obama has added the same 5 trillion, but in just 4 years. VERY bad on him.

Clinton had many faults, but he was above all a very skilled politician. He had the charisma and the desire to make deals and get things done. Obama is just not the same. He stays aloof and lets his minions do the grunt work. You can see where that has brought us. I see Romney in the 'deal maker' category.

You Obama supporters here need to get on board with the Obama campaign. The strategy of trying to make the election about demonizing Romney has failed. It began to fail when the first debate was about 20 minutes old. It's dead in the water now, because a majority of Americans see Romney as an acceptable and electable alternative to President Obama. Face the facts.

Instead, you need to sell YOUR candidate. You've only got a couple of weeks to present your vision for the next 4 years...

1 ( +1 / -0 )

Typical of what I was talking about - Laguna you got that crap from Think Progress - which is a liberal stink-hole of information. The problem is that everyone wants to quote 'news sources' when very few of them are unbiased and accurate.

-4 ( +0 / -4 )

JTD - no, I mean unbiased and accurate - why do liberals insist on putting words in others mouths? And how very pretentious of you to think that I know nothing of history. Of course you, all liberals are just so bloody brilliant, eh? I stand by my beliefs. I didn't live through the administrations of Filmore and Pierce - I did through Carter and witnessed first-hand what he wrought.

-2 ( +1 / -3 )

Oh, and this coming from a person who admittedly from an earlier posting can't understand what Mitt Romney stands for or proposes to do. Brilliant. Although if it's any consolation I have no idea what Obama will do to right the wrongs of our nation - except more of what he has ineffectively already done.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

Hey Serrano!

Psst, Danman - he stands for making the rich even richer

Shhhhh!

0 ( +1 / -1 )

"Just because DanMan doesn't know where Romney stands on anything doesn't mean nobody knows."

It's not that nobody knows his stance serrano, it's which of his stances to choose from.

Governor Romney has changed his positions more than some of our Republican contributors have changed their handles on JT.

1 ( +1 / -0 )

Governor Romney has changed his positions more than some of our Republican contributors have changed their handles on JT.

BOOM! :)

0 ( +1 / -1 )

As for Romney's opinions, beliefs and plans - they are only not apparent to you liberal observers because you're so busy parroting the feigned anger of the President and desperately trying to find issue with all that he says that you cannot make yourselves shut up and listen. It's become quite clear that the liberal way is to avoid, ignore, twist or disbelieve anything that counters their world.

And typically, other than address the JC thing and add the usual Bush blame comment, you have also failed to tell me how your candidate has been more trustworthy given the forcing through of unpopular legislation, the Libya lie, fast & furious, etc. And while you state Romney has not enlightened you to his plan, you cannot really seem to relate to me what your candidate might do in the next four years that differs from the previous that proved ineffective in moving the economy forward.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

Tigermouth

your a liberal, you read the liberal press and they'll tell you how evil Mitt is. If you read the conservative press they'll tell you the opposite.

Oh, and this coming from a person who admittedly from an earlier posting can't understand what Mitt Romney stands for or proposes to do. Brilliant

Sounds like you know more about Romney. Which one should we believe? Please select one of them listed below. Thanks. We may use your cheat sheet for voteing.Does he have a plan? Everything looks like a "Mirage" By the way, Romney's favorite phrase is a COMPREHENSIVE approach, COMPREHENSIVE plan, COMPREHENSIVE strategy during his campaign. Basically he is not telling us anything. But I suppose you know exactly what Romney is fighting for. Great. Looking forward to hearing your response. Remember, your feedback is very important to us. It may change many people's position for voting.

1) Gov. Romney of MA who was for gun control, pro-choice and state mandate healthcare.

2)GOP Romney is for pro-guns, pro-life and removing national mandate healthcare and not for the 47% (Corporation is people).

3)Romney on the 1st debate for the center-100% Americans (not 47%), pro-guns, pro-life, health vouchers and removing Big Bird .

4)Romeny on the 2nd debate for the 47% (Obama reminded it at the end), pro-guns, health vouchers, a binder filled with women, pro-life with certain exceptions, balancing budget that even my kids cannot add up and and NO EQUAL PAY

5)'Romney agreeing everything what Obama says in foreign policy and unclear position on auto bailout. Romney wants to spend $2 trillion more for military spending.

Of course you, all liberals are just so bloody brilliant, eh?

As Rick Santorum said..."Only smart people vote dem" He said it the best.

I have no idea what Obama will do to right the wrongs of our nation - except more of what he has ineffectively already done.

Obama was a janitor cleaning up the mess Bush left for him. The country was in a brink of eyes to go off the cliff when he became a President. When considering UK unemployment at 15%, Spain at 25% and China slowing down, we are doing okay. It could be much much worse. Auto bailout worked out. Many jobs were saved, and the bailout money has been already paid off. US tax payers made money on that.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Good for you Global - by all means do stand up for what you believe in; I am doing no less. It's a shame that political and ideological difference bring such vitriol with it - but no surprise I suppose. But in truth I don't dislike anyone based upon their political beliefs, religion, color or creed - it's when they act like an a-hole that I have a problem.

As for the JFK quote, well that's a liberal misconception - and hence the annoying air of superiority - that conservatives are by definition in diametric opposition to those ideals. And perhaps this is why liberals interpret (or misinterpret) Romney as so 'wishy-washy'. If you're died in the wool one way or the other, I would counter that your a fool. I don't mean that in the Independent - middle of the road sense, but rather one's brain has to override at times. For instance I believe in the welfare of the people - I just don't believe that we should have most of our people on welfare. I don't think you can honestly conclude that conservatives don't want people to have affordable housing, good schools or great jobs. It's just a matter of how you get to that point, and how much the individual is responsible for getting to it, rather than big government creating a needy, unmotivated welfare state. Suspicions abroad? Well, they'll always be there no matter who's in the WH. People of the world love to hate Americans because of who we are and the freedoms we represent.

I would suggest that if you have/had a political mentor, that's fine - but at some point you have to think for yourself and make situational determinations. But what do I know?

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

And you didn't because you can't. The election is now down to liberals - and the President - desperately trying to paint Romney in a negative light. Republicans are knuckle dragging racists/tea baggers/sexist/blah blah - blame Bush -blah-blah. In fact the naked truth is that the economy blows, and that's all most people care about. Do they want four more years of the caustic, Bush blaming, ineffective administration that has no differing plan other than crap policy that hasn't worked? Or do they want a President who rather than being angry and aloof will actually do something positive for this country (despite the liberal outcry that the world will end - all Bush's fault of course. Or perhaps according to JTDan's madness it will be GW and Rush Limbaugh on black horses with red eyes - and Al Gore riding behind on a donkey (poor donkey) screaming about global warming. That might be a cool cartoon actually.

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

With the President's use of drones, you're still doing both. I don't disagree with offing people with drones however.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Based on theory, $1 should be spent on capital investment and education to maximize competitiveness while a missle to the desert does not produce any competitiveness in market place. When resources are properly utilized, thus it will increase tax revenue inflow back to the government. FYI, this is called as a technical efficiency in economic theory.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

@gobal

so you have worked for NBC AND FOX, (I have your transcripts).. Very interesting. Whoever hired you ignored your job experience history.

Let me ask you a question, why do you have to lie like that? You don't know me, who I am, where I live, how I look? You don't know about FOX, CNN or Even NBC. I am not being a partisan, I am just telling you honestly and truthfully, what i saw, if you want to come up with your own PERSONAL POV or OPINIONS , thats ok, but Where I went to school, my experiences .Kinda getting bold and you're looking like an....anyway, you have NO transcripts CV, resume from my past employment or anything, with all due respect, just focus more on the topics and less on my work experience. My personal private life is not your concern. Again, you don't like FOX, I have no problem with that. I did my internship with NBC in LA in 1997 stayed on and later moved to NY to work for them and the main reason why I left was that they were so out of control, cared solely about ratings just pushed a strong liberal progressive agenda, if they were factually wrong it didn't matter. CNN and FOX weren't like that, so just to set the record straight. NBC used to be a great network and highly respected. Tom Rogers destroyed that and what a pity it was taking down a once respected network. If you like Obama, that's your right, I don't, he seems like a decent person, but is a lousy leader and is destroying this country. I like Romney, I think he's a better alternative, at least a better one than Obama and particularly when it come to the economy. Could I be wrong, there is the possibility. I was wrong about Obama. I respect your opinions to agree to disagree, However, as a person who worked in TV for 2 major networks, I can tell you unequivocally, from my own working with both networks FOX is NOT the propaganda machine you think, sorry, but that's a real fact.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

@Tigermoth

Actually, the Democrat's 'demonize Romney' strategy has failed. Thanks in large part to the lethargy shown by President Obama in the first debate, a majority of Americans now see Romney as a viable alternative. They may not agree with him, or vote for him, but they DO see him as a legitimate candidate.

At least in the political ads, the emphasis has shifted, finally, to what the US can expect out of a second Obama term. The personal attacks have stopped. The cute word games (binders, bayonets, and Big Bird) will hopefully follow.

About TV news, what people fail to see is that Fox and CNN are mirror images in many ways. Both have two sides- a hard news side and an analysis/opinion side. Both largely play the news side down the middle. Both have a political tilt on the opinion side- CNN to the left and Fox to the right. The problem comes when people start equating talking heads like Bill O'Reilly (or Soledad O'Brien) with the news.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

bass. thank you for your explanation. I like that because it is very sincere and honest. It was very unusual for someone with a job history working for 2 tv stations that are opposite in political ideology. I do not know if you are a journalist, but if you are, I have not seen anything like that. You are entitled to your own opinion as well as mine.Let's try to keep everything in civil. Thank you again, bass.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

globalwatcherOct. 24, 2012 - 03:07PM JST : "You mean CNBC, NBC, CBC, ABC, HuffPost, Bloomberg, NYTimes, or just about ALL organization that reports real NEWS?" skipbeat, I also watch these stations including CNN, WSJ, Times, Economist, Newsweek, BBC to see their holes in claims. It is not easy for them to coordinate holes at the same time when delivering news. There are still good professional journalists with fact finding skills. I assume you are thinking of conspiracy in journalism. Still many good ones out there.

The choice to report from the left is decided by the individual news media network. It's not even a conspiracy in journalism. The bottom line is what stories sell and pay the bills. How much ads revenue is generated by subscribers? If there is millions of subscribers the news network can increase their ads fee.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Mirai HayashiOct. 24, 2012 - 03:28PM JST : @Skipbeat he Republicans actually did something nice. What would happened if the people knows that it started by Bush? Who would they vote?" Bwahahahahaha! ROTFLMAO!! Republican hypocrisy knows NO BOUNDS!! YOU KNOW you were trying to make this into an Obama thing when you posted that video, but when I told you it was a republican initiative, all of a sudden it's the greatest thing since sliced bread! This is so ridiculous, not even worth talking about anymore. You're done son, come back when you're REALLY ready to go toe to toe with me.

The irony is lost on your part. Obama is taking credit for Bush's policies.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

skipbeatOct. 25, 2012 - 12:28PM JST

globalwatcherOct. 24, 2012 - 03:07PM JST : "You mean CNBC, NBC, CBC, ABC, HuffPost, Bloomberg, NYTimes, or just about ALL organization that reports real NEWS?" skipbeat, I also watch these stations including CNN, WSJ, Times, Economist, Newsweek, BBC to see their holes in claims. It is not easy for them to coordinate holes at the same time when delivering news. There are still good professional journalists with fact finding skills. I assume you are thinking of conspiracy in journalism. Still many good ones out there.

The choice to report from the left is decided by the individual news media network. It's not even a conspiracy in journalism. The bottom line is what stories sell and pay the bills. How much ads revenue is generated by subscribers? If there is millions of subscribers the news network can increase their ads fee.

Thank you for speaking up for me.

Signed

BIG BIRD

0 ( +0 / -0 )

skipbeatOct. 25, 2012 - 12:28PM JST

globalwatcherOct. 24, 2012 - 03:07PM JST : "You mean CNBC, NBC, CBC, ABC, HuffPost, Bloomberg, NYTimes, or just about ALL organization that reports real NEWS?" skipbeat, I also watch these stations including CNN, WSJ, Times, Economist, Newsweek, BBC to see their holes in claims. It is not easy for them to coordinate holes at the same time when delivering news. There are still good professional journalists with fact finding skills. I assume you are thinking of conspiracy in journalism. Still many good ones out there.

The choice to report from the left is decided by the individual news media network. It's not even a conspiracy in journalism. The bottom line is what stories sell and pay the bills. How much ads revenue is generated by subscribers? If there is millions of subscribers the news network can increase their ads fee.

Thank you for speaking up for me.

Signed

BIG BIRD

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Obama didn't have the guts to say this to Romney's face during the debates. What does that say about Obama as a man?

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

"Obama didn't have the guts to say this to Romney's face during the debates. What does that say about Obama as a man?"

Oh . . . my . . . goodness. Are you really trying to play the, "Oh, yeah? You want a piece of me?" machisimo card here? Your candidate is a dud. Accept it.

1 ( +2 / -1 )

"Your candidate is a dud"

Translation: Romney isn't rude and condescending. Accept it.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

"Romney isn't rude and condescending. Accept it."

Being a pandering kiss-ass is nothing to crow about. Romney is a candidate who is desperately looking for something -- anything -- with which he can connect with voters who would otherwise never vote for the man he was at the start of this campaign.

He's a chameleon trying to be all things to all people in order to win the White House. Even you can't deny his extraordinary efforts to try and appear more moderate than he originally presented himself when he sought the Republican nomination all those months ago. He's virtually unrecognizable now.

Doesn't that concern you in the least?

Meanwhile, the very foundation of Romney's campaign, namely criticism of Obama's alleged inability to produce an economic miracle from the rubble left by his predecessor stands in stark contrast to Romney's detail-sparse economic blueprint for the future which -- conveniently, I might add -- gives Mr. Romney a cool decade to achieve the kind of economic turnaround he lambastes Obama for not accomplishing in four years.

"Damn Obama for not doing it in four years, but if you give me ten, I'm your man." How ridiculously lame is that?

2 ( +2 / -0 )

Being rude and condescending, and spending the United States into oblivion is nothing to crow about

-4 ( +0 / -4 )

namely criticism of Obama's alleged inability to produce an economic miracle from the rubble left by his predecessor

Alleged?? Oh yeah, then blame Bush. I don't feel like working today - think I'll blame my old co-worker who retired three years ago. Get a new tilt, that one is getting so very tiresome and sad.

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

and spending the United States into oblivion

Turn the clock back to 2000, when then Fed Chairman Greenspan was warning of the dangers of the US paying off its debt too quickly. This was due to tremendous economic expansion and wise tax rates passed by Bill Clinton and Congress in 1993. We don't expect Republicans to remember back that far, but they were crying all manner of doom -- as you are now -- over how Clinton's massive tax hike was going to drive the US into oblivion. That just didn't happen.

Although there was still plenty of national debt in 2000 -- just not government deficit spending -- Bush and Republicans treated the surplus not as something to pay down the debt with, but as an "overcharge" to be immediately returned to the American people -- disproportionately to the wealthiest.

I don't feel like working today - think I'll blame my old co-worker who retired three years ago.

Perhaps you and your old co-worker are not producing anything for others to build upon, or worse, are doing things that others have to repair. Let's hope that when you leave, your co-workers will not think that they've gained two people. (Which I liken to Bush being replaced by President Obama.)

0 ( +2 / -2 )

Tigermoth,

"Alleged??"

Yes, alleged.

Look, I'll spell it out for you, since it's clear this is too “tiring” for you to discern on your own

Ready?

You're raging against Obama for not doing enough to fix the economy in less than four years, despite economic indicators showing very clearly that the U.S. is indeed in better shape than it was when Obama was handed this gigantic poop sandwich by Bush.

You and your guy, Romney, claim Obama should have done more in three and a half years in office.

You and your guy Romney -- well, maybe just Romney -- knowing full well that there isn't a damned thing the GOP could have done differently to produce any better results in that amount of time, is hedging his bets by presenting an economic recovery plan that, by his own admission, requires at least 9 years to produce the results he damns Obama for not achieving in 3 1/2.

You still with me?

Summary: Your man's, your party's, and your criticism of Obama's efforts is contrived, hypocritical, and loaded to the brim with disingenuous horse manure.

Your party couldn't have done any better, and it insomuch as admits it with its rousing endorsement of Romney's 9-year Trickle Down Theory Plan: Part the Third.

Oh, wait. I forgot. You're the party that won't let its campaign be dictated by facts.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

In fact, isn't it further interesting that Fox News has been declared fair and balanced time and time again throughout the years? Say what you wish about Fox News, but they're doubling the ratings of their nearest cable competitors by a 2:1 margin combined...

One thing to remember is that all of the television networks here are losing viewership, especially CNN and Fox. Many Americans these days just do not sit around watching television news like they used to. Most get it online instead. Two points: (a) Fox has a weak digital strategy and (b) ABC/Yahoo owns that business followed by CNN. Just saying...

0 ( +1 / -1 )

yabits: "Turn the clock back to 2000"

Good grief, how about comparing the national debt when Obama took office and what it is now? Nah...

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

Good grief, how about comparing the national debt when Obama took office and what it is now?

An intelligent comparison would require looking at the conditions and opportunities available to a new leader taking office, as well as those to whom a leader would be judged and compared.

The national debt was large and growing when President Obama took office because of a massive squandering of a hard-fought opportunity to pay down that debt when the nation was in surplus eight years prior. With the banking and financial systems on the verge of meltdown in 2008, and the Dow sinking into the floor, people intelligent enough to remember the opportunity this nation was handed in 2000 could only look and shake their heads. The government would now be forced to spend even more in an attempt to get out of the crisis it was driven into by sheer greed and stupidity.

Any idiot can look at the raw numbers, without taking the conditions into consideration, and claim to make a fair comparison. And a critical mass of such unthinking idiots are the reason the nation keeps getting idiotic leaders who squander once-in-a-lifetime opportunities.

1 ( +2 / -1 )

What a joke after all the lies he has told us.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

Obama also said 4 years ago if he couldn't turn the economy around in one term,he didn't deserve another term. Inflation is skyrocketing when you figure in the cost of living.Insurance premiums are going up,many of the people who have found jobs,only have part time jobs.Many people took pay cuts so they or their coworkers could keep their jobs.It should say something when the fatcat insurance companies are endorsing the obamacare and the taxes required to pay for it. How is that turning anything around.

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

Mitt can't compete with Obama in lying. Obama lies while thinking he's telling the truth. I'll vote for Romney just because I'm so sick of all the Obama worshiping.

-4 ( +0 / -4 )

Mitt can't compete with Obama in lying. Obama lies while thinking he's telling the truth

Highly doubt it. I agree Obama is not immune to this as he has been following a similar logic the W administration engineered in their last eight years to fix a total mess. But Romney is not the same guy he used to be as a governor of MA. He is getting addicted to ugly hard line Republicans who miss no opportunity to upset Americans with a lot of non-sense. He and his running mate Paul Ryan are indeed a perfect duo for that. He would be in the same situation as Obama is, within a year or two, assuming that he would make a stunning upset in the election and take the office in January next year.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Romney just told the latest one -- perhaps the biggest by far -- in Ohio, where his campaign openly has misled Ohio citizens into believing that Chrysler is moving Jeep production to China.

This is a massive lie -- the political equivalent to yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater. Chrysler is not moving any Ohio jobs to China; on the contrary, more jobs are being created there.

Chrysler is building a Jeep plant in China -- but to produce vehicles for the expanding markets in Asia.

3 ( +3 / -0 )

I can't understand why Kerry was unelectable for changing his mind on one policy, but this shambling weathervane Romney contradicts himself daily on every major issue - on those few days when he hasn't stuck his foot in his mouth or been caught lying barefacedly - and 49% of those polled think he's fit to run their country.

1 ( +3 / -2 )

Login to leave a comment

Facebook users

Use your Facebook account to login or register with JapanToday. By doing so, you will also receive an email inviting you to receive our news alerts.

Facebook Connect

Login with your JapanToday account

User registration

Articles, Offers & Useful Resources

A mix of what's trending on our other sites