Obama to head south to prepare for debates

Obama don't matter how much you prepare buddy, you aint got a hope of toppling McCain`s lead.

McCain will hammer you Obama, the no hoper. Hee Hee!

Anyway, America is not going to vote for a non whie guy.

"If Obama can hold his own on foreign policy..."

He can't.

But they will vote for Elmer Fudd???

mccain's going to get all flustered again and start lashing out when Obama begins exposing mccain's shopping list of policiy reversals, u-turns and backflips.

Can't wait to hear mccain start harping on about how his time as a flyboy somehow qwualifies him to be president LOL!

It's going to get messy!

Heh, these polls aren't showing new and black voters - America is ready for a half-black president - mccain is toast!

What is UP with FLorida? I'm reading that palin drew a crowd of 60,000.

Barack is going to have to take off the gloves again.

Also can't for mccain to start talking about being a change agent and wanting to change Washington and watching Obama taunt mccain for being a Washington Insider for the past 26 years and not changing much at all.

Heh, mccain's history of failure is going to work against him.

And what's with his judgment of putting a hockey mum a mere failed heartbeat away from the presidency??

What does that say about mccain's judgement?

It says he is simply unfit to be president and America knows it.

Every dollar mccain receives in fundraising is a dollar down the toilet.

"If Obama can hold his own on foreign policy..." He can't.

Thank you again for the benefit of your towering insight.

Try these on for size as demonstraions of McCain's mastery of foreign affairs:

McCain appeared to confuse Iraq and Afghanistan in a “Good Morning America” interview with ABC’s Diane Sawyer, who asked whether the "the situation in Afghanistan is precarious and urgent.” McCain responded: “I'm afraid it's a very hard struggle, particularly given the situation on the Iraq/Pakistan border." The ABC posting added: “Iraq and Pakistan do not share a border. Afghanistan and Pakistan do.”

• “Somalia” for “Sudan”: As recounted in a reporter’s pool report from McCain’s Straight Talk Express bus on June 30, the senator said while discussing Darfur, a region of Sudan: "How can we bring pressure on the government of Somalia?" Senior adviser Mark Salter corrected him: “Sudan.”

A YouTube clip from last year memorializes McCain referring to Vladimir Putin of Russia — following a trip to Germany — as “President Putin of Germany.” (http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=E5ENwej0fpc)

In Phoenix earlier this month, McCain referred to Czechoslovakia, which has been divided since Jan. 1, 1993, into the Czech Republic and Slovakia. He also referred to Czechoslovakia during a debate in November and a radio show in April.

Also this spring, McCain twice appeared to mistake Sunnis and Shiites, two branches of Islam that split violently.

This debate is going to be quite a spectacle - the eloquent, persuasive voice of progress vs. the dithering, stammering blundering gaffes of a tired old man in search of yesteryear.

Come on, America - don't let us all down again.

Alinsky4prez at - "I'm reading that palin drew a crowd of 60,000."

Yes, mainly elderly folk who don't yet know that the McCain-Palin Celebrity Ticket are going to privatise their Social Security and punt it on the sharemarket, and we know where the sharemarket has been going recently.

She spoke for just 23 minutes at an enormous retirement community about an hour north of Orlando.

She didn't take any questions becauase she simply can't handle any questions unless they are about Alaska. lipstick or being a hockey mum (these areas, will, in fact, become core planks of Palin's foreign policy strategy for the 21st century)

SushiSake3- i would not be so flippant on our next VP. Voices of dissent (traitors)may find themselves in a Gitmo situation. Palin is strong, she can answer quaestions with ease and skill. When elected with McCain peopel who lie and dissent against our democratically elected government, amy find themselves in serious trouble. Think about it!!

Palin is strong, she can answer quaestions with ease and skill.

You forgot to add "and bare-faced lies"

And I wouldn't ask her many questions about dinosaurs, either.

When elected with McCain peopel who lie

Spelling apart, you've got a point there.

Obama: This is my plan.

Republicans: Obama has no concrete plan, we cannot afford this guy.

Obama: Here is my plan. This is what I will do.

Republicans: He just says what you want to hear.

i hope people are not stupid enough to believe the latter

Voices of dissent (traitors)may find themselves in a Gitmo situation.

Looks like SBV thinks a McCain-Palin White House will mean the end of American democracy and the right to free speech. Is that what American voters want? Is that what SBV wants?

Yes, I really do hope that this time American voters do think about it.

DXXJP - "But they will vote for Elmer Fudd?"

Better Elmer Fudd than Obama.

Alinsky ( 9:26 ) - Good one.

Wottock - "Thank you again for the benefit of your towering insight."

You're welcome!

Sushi - "the McCain-Palin Celebrity Ticket"

Heck, Obama's got a lot more celebrities supporting him than McCain has.

By the way, I had a really good dinner last night. I put on a Barbra Streisand CD, ordered Domino's pizza, and saved $28,500. Hee hee!

( Streisand held a fundraiser dinner for the Obama campaign at $28,500 a plate )

Wottock - "Come on, America, don't let us all down again"

Heck, we haven't let you down since 1996!

SwiftBoatVet - "Palin is strong, she can answer quaestions with ease and skill."

Have you got any examples or is this comment just the product of your dreams before they implode on you on November 4th when the Democrats and Obama win the election?

That will be a great day for America and democracy, and a horrible, horrible day for the dissenters (traitors) who voted for mccain.

cleo- Your eco credentials are very admirable, but you do not grasp the situation in the US. Remember "youare either with us, or against us"?

Anyone undermining or threatening to , our nation must be detained and interrogated. Getting lots of money from Liberal elite Obama? good money squandered on a hopeless cause i say, and all true patriotic Americans will agree with me!!!!!!

SwiftBoatVet - "Remember "youare either with us, or against us"?"

Yes, that was a quote by an intellectual lightweight targeted at other intellectual lightweights.

Sarge - I can't help but notice you didn't try to say anything in response to the clear evidence that McCain should not be trusted with a box of matches, never mind the nuclear codes. He gets confused about Czechoslovakia and the Iraq/Pakistan border and you're warning us about Obama's foreign policy competence?

Hell, Obama's got a sight more overseas knowledge than Palin - when did she get a passport again?

Wottock - if Sarge and pretty much every Republican on JT had a choice, they would never, ever have voted for mccain.

That's incredible indicative and sad by itself.

Ifr McCain comes into power, think carefully, there may be Feds knocking on your door, they can monitor guys who threaten security you know.

Obama couldn`t debate with a little kid, he is the ultimate elitists dork. Tee Hee!

Cleo is a far more loyal, patriotic American than you will ever be, sorry.

Erm, Cleo isn't an American of any flavour, sorry. I used to think we were on the same side, though, until the Dear Boy Leader told me I was 'against us' for not approving of the lie-infested invasion and bombing of someone else's country.

Wottock - "McCain should not be trusted with a box of matches, never mind the nuclear codes"

McCain fought for your freedom to say he should not be trusted with a box of matches. Thanks for your opinion. We'll take it under advisement.

Sarge- Great post buddy. Shame there aren't many patriots on here like me and Sarge.

Obama wouldn't dare debate me, i would pummel him. I am your average wealthy hard working guy, who has common sense.

priviledged Obama does not have common sense to debate rationally.

Yes, mainly elderly folk who don't yet know that the McCain-Palin Celebrity Ticket are going to privatise their Social Security and punt it on the sharemarket, and we know where the sharemarket has been going recently.

I'm delighted to see Barack's lil' white lie about Social Security is also being dutifully parroted by our foreign friends. I do hope you have made a financial contribution. They can't be traced if under 200 US dollars.

THe scare em with no Social Security one didn't work for Kerry but then again, Barack is no John Kerry.

sarge, SwiftBoatVet; Fantastic posts guys.

Obama does not have the abilities to debate, taht are finely honed by McCain after years of political service.

Obama resign, yoy are tiresome and the nation has bored of you.

You are the weakest link, goodye!

Sarge,

We allowed McCain to fight, but he was not fighting for our freedom. Our freedom was always more imperiled by the fact that we were fighting than it was by the enemy we imagined we were fighting.

Nobody should receive a presidential trump card by virtue of having served in the military, by virtue of having a purple heart or by virtue of having been tortured. None of that has any bearing on the ability to make a sound foreign policy decision.

McCain fought for your freedom to say he should not be trusted with a box of matches.

Care to point that out to SBV, who thinks anyone who asks questions should be in Gitmo? But now we're agreed debate is permissible, please respond to my earlier point, namely:

In a debate about foreign policy, how does somebody who can't be trusted to know there's no such place as Czechoslovakia, or where Puitn comes from, get to be viewed as an expert on overseas affairs?

SwiftBoatVet - "Obama couldn`t debate with a little kid, he is the ultimate elitists dork. Tee Hee!"

How many admirals does mccain have in his family and how many multi-millionaires has mccain married and how many houses does he own?

Obama an elitist - you need to step into the 21st century and start reading the news.

Sarge - "McCain fought for your freedom to say he should not be trusted with a box of matches. Thanks for your opinion. We'll take it under advisement."

As if any more proof was needed that Sarge doesn't exercise his braincells....

I like it how you claim to be a vet and yet sound like a 14-year-old :-)

McCain fought for your freedom to say he should not be trusted with a box of matches.

I thought he fought in Vietnam? That country never threatened American freedom.

"McCain should not be trusted with a box of matches, never mind the nuclear codes"

I would trust him with a box of matches. If you doused him in accelerant first. And I would trust him with the nucular codes. Just not the nuclear ones.

I hope Obvama wins man. he can help people like me. My welfare checks are too small and i can't even afford a flat screen tv, even second hand is toio much. I can only drink 3 times a week, that's how poor Bush has made me.

Obama , go man, win those debates , spread the money down to guys like me. Obama will help us guys who deserve the money.

To argue ones verbal mistakes makes you look foolish as both of these idiots have misquoted things or talked like an idiot...

Obama http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=omHUsRTYFAU&feature=related http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=sqcnjxYiG7M&feature=related http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=V6Si8h4zgqA&feature=related http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=kuMZzXAWv2U&feature=related

And Mccain

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=jNsr2aF1XM0 http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=xI50bX-7F10&feature=related http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb2N0S-fgdk&feature=related http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=oRUhlws5TOI&feature=related

Seems like this to me.. blindly following one political person or group is like having unprotected sex with a hooker.... When the deed is done you find out what you got.. In both cases the result isnt going to be good.

Im sad to see so many people argue over mistakes made by a person who is up 18-20 hours working on getting elected, they are bound to make mistakes.

I am also worried about how people say either of these groups is for the people when they spend so much money trying to fool you..

I also find it strange that so many non Americans spend so much time defending an American Presidential canidate when their own countries politics are so screwed up...

If half of the energy spent on the campaigns was spent on real problems maybe the people of this earth would have everything they need and we wouldnt be sef destructing... Just a thought

alinsky,

What is UP with FLorida? I'm reading that palin drew a crowd of 60,000.

Honestly, I was thinking the very same thing. When I checked Real Clear Politics this morning, I saw that Florida, which has been leaning toward candidate mccain has gone grey and is considered a toss-up state. RCP now has Sen. Obama ahead in Florida by 2.3%. Perhaps the 60,000 Floridians actually listened to what Gov. Palin had to say...or perhaps they received the latest issue of your favorite scoop mag, the National Enquirer.

sarge,

alinsky ( 9:26 ) - Good one.

No. It wasn't. See above paragraph.

Taka

The real joy of this election is going to be who loses. If Obama loses, the blacks and "post-racial" liberals are going to go into fits. If McCain loses the Jews -especially the neo-cons- are going to have kittens. From my point of view, it is win-win.

mccain's going to lose this one because not enough of his unpatriotic, anti-American supporters will bother getting out of bed to vote for him.

Otherwise, they'll just be too old (like their "candidate") and simply forget what day the election is. :-)

During his first campaign trip this weekend, the Illinois senator told a crowd in Iowa: "We now have spent $400 billion and have seen over 3,000 lives of the bravest young Americans wasted."

Well SushiSake you and Obama have the same belief... If a patriotic American dies in a war he wasted his life

Dont call Americans Unpatriotic, or Anti American because they dont like OBama.. It just makes you look ignorant of what an American is.. which thank god isnt you!!!

Im not voting for either of these idiots and would rather write in Snoopy then either of these typical political puppets.

taka313 - Yes, it was.

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/09/21/p/

I hear Obama's going to swap out Biden for one of the Dixie Chicks.

Obama: "home values are falling"

Of course this is good for some people, like the people who are buying homes for the first time. But perhaps Obama should ask his economic advisors, Jim Johnson and Franklin Raines, who steered Fannie May and Freddie Mac into the ground, why home values are falling.

Sarge wrote: Of course [falling home prices] is good for some people, like the people who are buying homes for the first time.

Yeah, as long as they can take a time machine into the past when cheap housing loans were available. I have a mind to try that myself. Then I can game the stock market, get rick, and father myself through some weird time paradox. Large Hadron Collider here I come!

Nippon5 - "Well SushiSake you and Obama have the same belief... If a patriotic American dies in a war he wasted his life."

Care to point out exactly where I said that?

Heh, Barack Obama has climbed in the polls again as mccain has fumbled his response to a looming US economic cataclysm - one that threatened to match the financial catastrophe of the 1930s Great Depression.

:-)

Soon, the Republicans are simply going to run out of excuses and then the political guns from the GOP side will fall silent.

In this debate, mccain is likely going to have to explain why, after his long history of advocating corporate and financial deregulation - the sort of loose controls that many blame for the turmoil on Wall Street - he is now claiming that regulation is the answer.

"There's only one candidate who's called himself 'fundamentally a deregulator' when deregulation is part of the problem," Obama said.

mccain has screwed up yet again and Obama is going to pound him but he had better be careful because if the GOP nominee has any health malfunctions, his place will be taken by someone whose strongest claim to national security experience is that she "lives close to Russia." LOL!!

Great to see that patriotic Americans don't support the McCain-Palin Celebrity Ticket.

mccain will also likely need to explain why - on the day the ground under the US market collapsed - he was caught quipping that US economic fundamentals were "strong."

How out of touch can you get?

"His solution was to blame me for it," Obama said, referring to the economic crisis. "I would say Senator McCain is a little panicked."

In the debate mccain will also be prompted to explain why, when he has a campaign team packed with top lobbyists, he claims lobbyists and Washington Insiders (like himself) need to go.

The GOP nominee will also likely be asked to explain his support for partial privatisation of the Social Security pension system; in fact, mccain wrote in a trade publication that opening the health insurance market to more vigorous competition nationwide, as was done with the banking industry, would provide more choices.

"So let me get this straight," Obama said. "He wants to run health care like they've been running Wall Street. Well, Senator, I know some folks on Main Street who aren't going to think that's a good idea."

Heh, Obama's going to have so many openings wide open to attack mccain on, they'll have to extend the debate into the middle of the next month :-)

Sarge - "I hear Obama's going to swap out Biden for one of the Dixie Chicks."

It's comforting to see that you treat this near financial collapse so seriously....

SushiSake3 said: Now, it seems the only people who want America to remain in Iraq now are John McCain, the terrorists and anti-American war supporters LOL!!

America's got a far bigger problem at home with the tanking economy and nearly $10 trillion in debt, a lot of it caused by this Iraqi invasion gig which has been a total waste of time.

You lost the war because there's no more terrorists than ever that hate you and your kind, Afghanistan is turning to custard, there's still no stable Govt. in Iraq, when the US pull out there is very likely to be a massive power struggle turning everything the US ever did to waste, and to cap it all off, by the time US forces have completely withdrawn, your nation will have wasted possibly close on $3 trillion of borrowed money (not to mention decades more of Vet healthcare costs) for what.....so that you can create even more enemies of America?

The amount of times you said negative things about Americans and the war that Patriotic soldiers are fighting was too much for me to print on here, but you can review your soapbox style preaching by reading what you wrote....

Like I said you really dont have a right to judge those who vote for McCain or Obama and your comments are just wrong when you always push your anti American talk......Dont you think that with a country that is almost 50% for either side that many of those you call un-American are in the military and serving in the war?

If a patriotic American dies in a war he wasted his life.

Patriotic or not, American or not, when a person gets killed in an unnecessary war, the people responsible for starting and running that war wasted his life.

Nippon5, take a few deeps breaths, mate.

"The amount of times you said negative things about Americans and the war that Patriotic soldiers are fighting was too much for me to print on here, but you can review your soapbox style preaching by reading what you wrote...."

Thanks, I did, and I still agree with what I said.

SushiSake3 - "tanking economy and nearly $10 trillion in debt" <-- that is correct.

SushiSake3 - "there's more terrorists than ever that hate you and your kind, Afghanistan is turning to custard, there's still no stable Govt. in Iraq, when the US pull out there is very likely to be a massive power struggle turning everything the US ever did to waste." <-- also correct

SushiSake3 - "the time US forces have completely withdrawn, your nation will have wasted possibly close on $3 trillion of borrowed money." <-- also correct.

Nippon5, you haven't actually pointed out where I was wrong.

"Dont you think that with a country that is almost 50% for either side that many of those you call un-American are in the military and serving in the war?"

I'm using the label 'anti-American' for people who support Bush/mccain - a quick cursory glance at the destruction their party has caused over the last 8 years that has now been capped off by a near global stockmarket collapse backs up my point to the hilt.

Again, you haven't actually pointed out where I was wrong, so I'm honestly not sure what your point is.

Obama needs to hammer home to the US public - as he is now starting to do effectively and in particular in the upcoming debates - that mccain does represent a third bush term - more failure, more economic destruction, more jobs outsourced, an ongoing dependance on oil, continuing failure to act on climate change, ever-increasing government debt, etc.

I agree with Sarge.

Cleo

Patriotic or not, American or not, when a person gets killed in an unnecessary war, the people responsible for starting and running that war wasted his life.

So when was this needed war??

Anytime a soldier fights for his country (any country be it Iraq or Germany, or Japan.) he is fighting a just war in his mind... Dont try to simplify it and say it wasnt a necessary war because in history we have never seen one.. Another none American telling Americans what is just to them and what isnt... Ill wait for your answer to a war that was Just and Necessary... I dont expect you to answer so Ill save you the time trying to create the illusion that one was necessary....

Yes, mainly elderly folk who don't yet know that the McCain-Palin Celebrity Ticket are going to privatise their Social Security and punt it on the sharemarket, and we know where the sharemarket has been going recently.

Methinks you better start reading the proposal.... because your liberal talking points are failing you.

Makes no difference what obama says in the upcoming debates. The 527s are saving the best for last.

Heh, no American will be voting for an Indonesian on Nov. 4th.

RR

Man Obaama is going to get battered. the guy can't say anything without autocue. Complete jerk who all patriotic Americans despise for his socialist ways and beliefs.

Obama goes to debate, loses and the souls still burns. Hahaha.

All the liberals are terrified of him debating, because he is so thick. Heck a 5th grade debating team could wipe the floor with the guy.

Looking forward to McCain and Palin, 4 years of security and riches.

Obama goes to debate, loses and the souls still burns. Hahaha.

All the liberals are terrified of him debating, because he is so thick. Heck a 5th grade debating team could wipe the floor with the guy.

Looking forward to McCain and Palin, 4 years of security and riches.

Anytime a soldier fights for his country (any country be it Iraq or Germany, or Japan.) he is fighting a just war in his mind

Exactly the same argument I made a while back on a Yasukuni thread. Your point here being...?

Starting a war is rarely necessary. Of the top of my head I can't think of any war that was started justifiably. Defending yourself against attack is justified and necessary.

Another none American telling Americans what is just to them and what isnt...

No, another non-American living in Japan and commenting on a Japan-centric website. Where does it say in the JT rules that the board is for, by and/or about Americans?

I don't think Obama has shown he is capable of debating anyone with experience.

He is going to be shown to be an inexperienced charlatan, and will lose even more votes. Oh well, another boost for the McCain, Palin camp!

I think Obama gonna win debates, because eveyone on Tv talk about him, and Jon Stewart thinks McCain is too old. Must be Obama is best one, like, you know , the guy!

He debate about how he will help us poor, so we can have better tv's and more beer and better trailers, he is the man for guys like me.

He can beat McCain easy, McCain is too old to be, like, cool you know what i'm saying?

It will be awesome when Obama wins and us poor guys can have money from the greedy rich, yeah man, awesome!

BarryHObarmy; Your talking nonsense boy. Go out and work hard if you want things for free.

However Obama debates, my mind aint gonna change, nope, its McCain all the way for me, the war vet patriot.

Any Guy who loves America will vote for McCain. A vote for Obama is a vote for the enemy.

Cleo

Take it how you want But it seems that you have a passion for making statements that are negative to Americans in general. I really dont care about you bashing an American or commenting back at someone who comments to you, but you generalize too much and are insulting to Americans in general. to me your opinion on Americans isnt really important.. but because you talk the talk you do you lose validity in some good points you make about the news displayed here.

Sorry I called you out, I didnt take away your right to free speech on this net rag... But I have the right to tell you I dont like your anti American Jargon... so .. Another none American telling Americans what is JUST to them and what isnt..

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4 years of riches with a guy who does even understand the mess his party caused? and comparing debating between obama and mccain? mccain makes bush look like socrates. mccain and his redneck partner will both be crushed int he debates. but that does not matter to racists and people who still think bush is doing a good job. it is just amazing that anyone could think the gop has done a good job. plus, you are not praising mccain when 4 years ago the gop hated him. and size you paint all democrats as liberals i will paint you as a religious right freak who talks about morals but then gets caught in a stall solicitn gax sex or a dope fiend limbaugh.

Barry and SwiftBoat - very funny, chaps, now move along.

I really dont care about you bashing an American

Well I do. I don't bash indiscriminately, and if I bash I want to know that I've bashed. Tell me, which one of you have I bashed?

you generalize too much and are insulting to Americans in general

Being anti-war and not liking people (including soldiers) getting killed for nothing is insulting to Americans?? How do you reckon that? Are you saying that getting soldiers killed for nothing is part of the American way? I've never heard a real American say that.

I didnt take away your right to free speech

I know you didn't. You can't.

Now, on topic: “We cannot afford a direction-less drive like Barack Obama,” said Bounds.

Judging from the past eight years, being directionless might be preferable to ploughing on doggedly in the wrong direction.

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Obama will lose all debates, he is intellectually challenged compared to his opponents. Watch the guy lose more votes, hehe, the McCain camp must be laughing like crazy.

Heh, looking forward to seeing mcain implode into irrelevance -

With just four days until the first presidential debate and just 42 days until the November 4 election, Senator John McCain is still feeling for his footing on the financial crisis that seems likely to consume the rest of the presidential campaign.

A McCain aide told reporters last night that the Republican nominee would distance himself from Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson’s trillion-dollar bailout plan, saying it lacks “oversight.” And McCain in a “60 Minutes” interview Sunday Night floated the name of Andrew Cuomo, the confrontational Democratic New York attorney general, as the chairman of a tough new Securities and Exchange Commission.

The Sunday night proposals were the latest in a series of attempts by McCain to draw a dramatic contrast between himself and President George W. Bush as the campaign appeared to shift decisively away from his chosen turf of culture wars and national security, and toward the economy. Obama, for his part, will have a final chance this week to duct tape McCain to the economic crisis and an unpopular president, and bury him in the flood of bad economic news.

www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13713.html

Barack Obama - "That’s right, John McCain says he wants to do for health care what Washington has done for banking.”

Will anyone be there to clean up the mess after Obama blows john 'Yesterday's Man' mccain into last century later this week?

"Heh, looking foward to seeing ( McCain ) implode into irrelevance"

You're going to be awfully disappointed, Sushi.

"anti-American Republicans"

They must be the anti-American Republicans who won the last two presidential elections and look set to win this one too.

Sarge, mccain is behind and after this upcoming debate, will stay that way.

Can't wait for Nov 4th when the Democratic Party wipes the floor with the anti-American GOP :-)

I trust you are getting some new handle names ready? Maybe "Surge"? :-)

Sarge, America needs someone to fix up the tanked economy.

mccain has admitted he'sd clueless on the economy.

Why are you voting for him? Is it because he is a non-American-born elitist divorcee, or something? :-)

Can't wait for the debates. john mccain's total lack of fitness to be president is only going to be bettered by Sarah Palin, who is even worse, but at least she can 'see Russia" therefore she MUST be "strong on national security" - ha ha! (WHY do you support this Sarge????)

SushiSake3- your anti McCain views are clearly showing you as unpatriotic.

Obama is the guy who would take away your liberties and hand them over to other who are unelected. will he admit this? No way, not even in the dabates, my god he is a dishonest man, who would tear the very soul out of our great nation.

SwiftBoatVet - "your anti McCain views are clearly showing"

As a mccain supporter, that puts you in a minority group of unpatriotic Americans :-)

"Obama is the guy who would take away your liberties and hand them over to other who are unelected. will he admit this? No way, not even in the dabates, my god he is a dishonest man, who would tear the very soul out of our great nation."

Rubbish. All patriotic Americans know john mccain is clearly unfit to be president. That's why he is going down in the polls to the man who knows how to put America on a track to prosperity - Barack Obama.

Did you know that being unpatriotic can land you in Gitmo?

I didn't know that until you hinted at it earlier today :-)

With that in mind, you had better stop being unpatriotic and start backing Barack Obama. :-)

(OMG - it's hilarious debating with you! :-)

I can see it now it will be Obama debating Elmer Fudd. Ill have to get a bowl of capin crunch and my spider man undies so I can watch the cartoons.

Its about time somebody took on those community organizers who are out there helping the poor and powerless. Yes we should get rid of all those community organizers who are patrolling those disadvantaged neighborhoods, being the mediator between the poor and those who have the power to help, who needs them.

The Germans can't believe Obama chose Biden to be his VP. In Germany, in order to please the Germans, he told them he would pick David Hasselhoff to be his VP.

Sarge- Great post. Have you noticed how quiet the "Obama" gang are at the moment.

They can't find answers to our posts! Ha Ha Ha.

They are squirming like a worm in bleach. Theyre Messiah has turned out to ba a hopeless charlatan. This is so funny, Obamas "fans" decrease by the day.

The latest from Obama: McCain does well with older voters because they want to see more gray hairs.

Hee hee!

SwiftBoatVet - "They can't find answers to our posts! Ha Ha Ha."

There's almost no point answering them. Obama is ahead. :-)

Well, I have no idea what is going to happen in the debates. I think Obama is clearly more intelligent than McCain and will probably be better prepared. However, to win a debate you must not only have better factual material on hand and more clever arguments, you must also connect with the judges--in this case the American people.

I think it's Obama's mission to be smart but sound more folksy than his natural tendency would be, at the same time avoiding excessive stammering. McCain's challenge is to be folksy but sound more intelligent than he would otherwise be, at the same time avoiding gaffes.

"I think Obama is clearly more intelligent than McCain"

That must be why Obama said McCain does well with older voters because they want to see more gray hairs. Hee hee!

I just watched a YouTube clip of Joe Biden addressing the National Guard. It was good to see Joe Biden challenge the perception that John McCain is the candidate who supports the troops the most. Biden compared McCain's voting record with that of Obama. It appears that several veterans' organizations give Obama a better mark for his voting record than McCain. While Biden praised McCain for his service in uniform and was very respectful he nevertheless made the point that McCain's positions and actions have not always benefitted the troops and veterans. A quick look verifies what he said.

Exactly WHAT voting record are you, and those vets groups (of which I am one) comparing??? Obama HAS no voting record beyond naming post offices, commemorative stamps, allowing abortion survivors to die, so forth and so on.

"It appears that several veterans' organizations give Obama a better mark for his voting record than McCain"

Appearances can be deceiving.

2008 G.I. Bill for example. Yes from Obama. No vote from McCain.

The record I found shows that it isn't merely appearance. Biden mentions these.

Disabled American Veterans: McCain 20%, Obama 80% voting record.

Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America: McCain a D, Obama a B pus rating.

These links show the same numbers. Inaccurate or unreliable source? Please correct if they are. http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?r_id=3483 http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?r_id=3439

You can also get the voting record for each candidate at this votesmart site by clicking their name in the lists.

Here is a link to the video of Biden's address to the National Guard. He mentions the ratings around 30min. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQCAKawrvfI

Japan best be careful about rooting for Obama, the guy is a staunch protectionist with eyes on securing American jobs over imports... bad news for Japan !

In case you return to this topic, and since the video is kinda long, here is an excerpt from the transcipt of Joe Biden's address to the National Guard on Sept. 22, 2008, relevant to the comments I made above.

"John McCain is a friend, a patriot, and a hero.

But John and I have some fundamental disagreements as it relates to the Guard, and the interests of veterans.

John McCain voted against billions of dollars in additional funding for veterans’ health care – against $2 million for TBI research… against $500 million for mental health issues… against $400 million for inpatient and outpatient care.

John wants to ration veterans’ health care to those with combat injuries, which would mean that millions fewer veterans would have access to VA medical care.

And while Barack and I supported Senator Jim Webb’s bipartisan bill to update the GI Bill from the get-go, John initially opposed it because he thought it was too generous.

John’s version treated the Guard as second class citizens when it came to educational benefits.

Those are the facts. But don’t take it from me. Ask Disabled American Veterans, which represents millions of vets. They keep track of these things… John voted with DAV 20 percent of the time.

Barack Obama – 80 percent of the time.

Or ask the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America. They keep track, too. They give letter grades, and they gave John McCain a “D”. Barack got at B+.

So as much as I admire John, I disagree with him.

Being a veteran isn’t the same as being there for veterans.

We need more than a great soldier, we need a wise leader."

Sarge,

Since you are hee-hee-ing you must be joking, right? I think you are going round Robin Hood's barn to try to put words in Obama's mouth.

Obama was speculating on why McCain does well with older voters. That's a legitimate speculation given what the older voters know about their own health. He offered the much-traveled "a few gray hairs" theory and said he was sprouting some of his own.

This saying has been around forever. When I still had hair and broke started into financial consulting, my bosses always told me that it didn't matter how smart I was. That businessmen would not trust me until I had a few gray hairs. They were right.

Age has always been an issue. Kennedy was thought to be too young for the job (in addition to being too Catholic). In television addresses the young try to look older and the old try to look younger. That's just something people do.

I think McCain is too old for the job. At present, he is campaigning on the energy of his vice-presidential selection. Obama is comparatively young, but in his case it is not age that is the question mark, it is experience.

work has it that it costs $5000 per make up session for mccain before his TV appearances to try to make him look like he is still alive. Amazing.

Well, he is super rich so he can afford that no problem. He has, what 8, 10 houses. Even he does not know how many.

Looks like John McCain, who has called Obama out for being a “celebrity,” is trying to make his own bright, shiny Hollywood star. And he is willing to pay a very, very, very high price.

The Senator used makeup artist Tifanie White, who’s worked on So You Think You Can Dance and American Idol, to make him look glam for a TV spot and paid her $5,583.43.

Yes, it really takes that much money to make him look good. Which, I guess comparatively is not that bad—Mariah Carey, a noted diva, spends $7,200 a day for a personal hairdresser and make-up artist.