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yabits
Frankly, this witchcraft thing is irrelevant. She was as clueless about life then as she is now.
When she said that stuff she probably believed that nobody in their right minds would have ever given her a position with high resonsibility. And she would be right about the "minds" part.
Elbuda Mexicano
No idea who this O!Donnell person is, sounds lie an idiot, satanic alters? A little blood? Creepy!
Molenir
From what she says now, seems like shes grown up a bunch. Certainly much smarter then she is now. At least more then most of the clueless libs who still think Obama can do no wrong, and that everything is Bush's fault. Ooh, or John Boehner now. Gotta find a new boogieman after all.
smithinjapan
Molenir: "Certainly much smarter then she is now"
Doh! Now THERE's a Freudian slip! You're right, she's still not smart now.
"At least more then most of the clueless libs who still think Obama can do no wrong, and that everything is Bush's fault. Ooh, or John Boehner now. Gotta find a new boogieman after all."
Ah, there we are... typical Molenir. When the focus of the article is on a GOP/tea-party nut and puts out the facts, it's time to switch the focus of the article to Obama. haha.
In all fairness to this woman, I agree we all do dumb stuff when we're kids. Some dumber than others, of course, but I don't see what she did as being all that bad. In fact, the definition of 'witchcraft' itself needs to be examined, since no doubt some would throw Wicca in with Satanism due to lack of simple understanding. The problem is that O'Donnell first and foremost is the type of person who would take this issue up at GREAT length if it were the opposition, and THAT is why it shouldn't simply be dropped. It's not WHAT she did, it's the hypocrisy she hides behind.
Badsey
She seems to be a perfect fit for Bohemian Grove. But is she willing to worship the owl?
nath
Wicca is recognized at Arlington cemetery for military heroes. The Cross, the Star of David, The Moon and Star, AND the pentagram in a circle... Although the behavior in question is not "the craft".
But even if this woman did partake in high school tomfoolery, SFW?
@smithinjapan: I think the reason Obama is brought up, is for contrast. It's the same media that delvies into this womans' past, but for Obama, they have given him a pass from campaign till present. No one has even seen one of his college papers!
medievaltimes
I think she's a Muslim.
smithinjapan
pamelot: I'm not sure if you understood my point, which was that 'witchcraft' is given a bad rap, when any group of elementary school kids having a sleep-over pull out a ouija board could be misinterpreted as 'Satan's influence' by the wrong people. Those same people would see even Wicca as 'witchcraft', because saying 'witch', be it 'white' or not, would conjure up images not too Christian, pardon the pun. The values shared by Wiccans are not really those espoused by other religions, and some people just won't understand no matter how you explain it. Heck, I still remember a lot of people saying Dungeons and Dragons was the seed of the devil.
I realize, of course, that what O'Donnell is talking about is not Wicca -- I was just throwing it out there.
"But even if this woman did partake in high school tomfoolery, SFW?"
Exactly! No one should be picking on her for what she did, so long as it was within the law; but what they DO need to point out is the hypocrisy.
"I think the reason Obama is brought up, is for contrast."
In some cases, yes. In the case above, it's brought up to try and deflect from the topic at hand. Said poster very often does this, and hence I brought it up.
"It's the same media that delvies into this womans' past, but for Obama, they have given him a pass from campaign till present."
Are you serious? Are you talking about the same media and society that believe Obama's Muslim and dig into his past, that STILL question if he's an American citizen, etc.? Come on... no one's got a free pass in this day and age with the media, and that's proven more and more today than ever.
SushiSake3
Has anyone seen her passport? Is she really an American. :-)
MistWizard
The tea party is being invaded by closet Muslims and Satanists too. Or maybe I am just copying the style of some extremely dishonest posters of this board.
GJDailleult
Well put Smith. But claiming media bias against yourself or in favor of your opponent is one the oldest public relations tricks in the book and effective, so it won't be stopping anytime soon.
And that is one badly written opening sentence by AP. Some weekend intern doing the editing? At least I hope a 40 something woman wasn't still in high school a decade ago!
MisterCreosote
I think the American public really don't give a damn. Obama admitted to snorting coke. Clinton was a pathological liar. Joe Biden is a plagiarist. Party preference wins out.
MisterCreosote
If anything, you would think even remote association with the so-called wicca movement would have "progressives" mooning over this woman.
The758
I don't know who she or nor do I follow politics, but she does have a point here.
Sarge
Watch O'Donnell beat Coons in November.
Molenir
Wait, hypocrisy? People change, or do you not recognize that fact? What she did as a young teenager, and how she has changed since, means shes a hypocrite? If a man is raised a Muslim, and converts to Christianity, does that mean his faith in Christ makes him a hypocrite? Or that he doesn't believe in Allah?
Very good point.
Funny, and true. Of course the fact that she became a Christian, kind of turns em off. If she was still wiccan, they might hold their noses despite her conservative views.
smithinjapan
MisterCreosote: "If anything, you would think even remote association with the so-called wicca movement would have "progressives" mooning over this woman."
Who said she was a Wiccan?
Molenir: "Wait, hypocrisy? People change, or do you not recognize that fact?"
I'm talking about the kind of hypocrisy where women like this and her supporters more than readily drudge up the past of others, but then say, "Who hasn't done something strange in highschool?" As we speak MisterCreosote is on another thread having just posted about Obama's heritage and saying the man should release his passport and university papers. And yet he's on here saying what this woman did is no big deal. So, which is it?
smithinjapan
MisterCreosote: "Because Democrats supported for decades a senator who did."
And there we are again... can't defend the woman, so let's 'change the subject' to the Democrats.
Molenir: "Funny, and true. Of course the fact that she became a Christian, kind of turns em off. If she was still wiccan, they might hold their noses despite her conservative views."
Except that it's not true at all. The woman didn't dabble in Wicca at all, but it's funny you both fell right into my trap and can't tell the difference. Classic. Put the glasses on before you read the article, fellas (if you bother to go beyond the headline, that is).
MisterCreosote
She's not a candidate in my state. I really don't care what she did. I will leave it to the voters in Delaware. For the life of me I can't understand why the high school silliness US Senate candidates got up to should interest someone who can't vote in US elections, but that's just me.
And I think she defended herself quite well. Maybe it is you who need to read the article: “There’s been no witchcraft since. If there was, Karl Rove would be a supporter now,” O’Donnell jokingly assured the crowd."
I am on her side.
You, apparently, are on Rove's side.
Politics, strange bedfellows, and all that...
lostrune2
Heh, I think 1 in 5 of the American population believe she's a witch and not a Christian.
RomeoRamenII
The democrats have nothing to base a successful re-election campaign other than their own brand of voo-doo.
Their strategy? "Everyone, look over there. A person running against us who, as a teenager, dabbled in witchcraft!!!!!!!!!!"
Too funny.
RR
MisterCreosote
ODonnell terrifies Karl Rove and buffoonish Bill Maher. I do believe I will make a contribution to her campaign.
smithinjapan
MisterCreosote: "You, apparently, are on Rove's side."
I certainly don't like the woman, but if you read my original comment you can see that I defend her (it's that one where you flubbed the Wicca from, or my next post, any way). I thought she defended herself decently as well. My point is that things like this should not matter, but you guys have no trouble bringing up the histories of others and trying to drag them through the mud, and like you are willing to dismiss this, so should other things be dismissed; or at the very least it shouldn't be the basis for your 'argument' when you have nothing else to say.
lostrune2: "Heh, I think 1 in 5 of the American population believe she's a witch and not a Christian."
ZING!
SuperLib
Well that's just weird.
Laguna
Population of my home state, California: 36.5 million. Population of Delaware: 853,476. Delaware, basically a rounding error in Californian terms, has the right to the same number of senators. One of them may be O'Donnel.
And some people question why American politics is broken.
techall
@Laquna: That's exactly why the congress is set up as two houses, one (the congress) by popluation and the other (the Senate) equal representation by state regardless of the population. It has worked for over 200 years.
SushiSake3
This is so funny. O'Donnell's win has handed Delaware to the Democrats. :-)
RomeoRamenII
What she said on a so-called "comedy show" 11 years ago doesn't interest me. If she wanted to play Samatha Stevens as a teenager, so what? It wasn't like she was a member of a cult where its leader chanted "God damn America".
RR
techall
The contest in Delaware is for Biden's old seat so it's in the democrat column anyway, also, registered dems. outnumber reps. by about 2 to 1 so the GOP taking this seat was a stretch from the get-go.
Sarge
Sushi: "This is so funny. O'Donnell's win has handed Delaware to the Democrats"
Heh, no one thought Scott Brown could win in Massachusetts either. But, yeah, like techall said, it's a long shot anyway.
RR: "It wasn't like she was a member of a cult whose leader chanted "God damn America"
LOL!
Klein2
"O'Donnell makes light of witchcraft comment"
She made light by saying VENGARDIOM LUMINOSO! and waved her wand, and there was light!
"Molenir: "Certainly much smarter then she is now" Doh! Now THERE's a Freudian slip! You're right, she's still not smart now."
HAHA. Sometimes Molenir does spout wisdom, it seems. I think Molenir is getting tired these days. We have to go easy on him.
"Obama admitted to snorting coke. Clinton was a pathological liar. Joe Biden is a plagiarist."
This is a really good point. You know, it really puts a lot of emphasis on vetting processes. The major parties have been losing a lot of people who have realized that they can't hide any skeletons anymore. They are being replaced by people who are either shameless, or pure as the driven snow. Mostly the former, as you can imagine. Watch as the Tea Party people get outed one by one. O'Donnell has her problems, but the candidate in Colorado also seems to have a slew of strange and unexplained events and associations. There are other candidates too. You look at Palin, and really, that is the best it gets.
"Of course the fact that she became a Christian, kind of turns em off."
Yeah. Every time I see this, I think of Jimmy Swaggart, Jerry Falwell, and all of the good Christians I have known. Ask MistWizard what he thinks of upstanding Christians. Someone who relies on religion heavily enough to sway someone's political opinion is up to no good.
OK. Enjoy. Pics and quotes on the Huffington Post. She has done these "political/comedy" shows. Apparently 10 of them over the years. It is going to be Sarah Palin all over again. She will say fascinatingly goofy things, and we will all have fun. I wonder if the Tea Party could do better. I think they can't, or they would have.
And it just goes to show you. They rant and they rave, but they can't do better or be better than anything they want to replace. They are weakening the GOP and they want to weaken the US.
Klein2
But Techall, their other contests arent going to do a whole lot better, and one would expect that if the TP is going to push out the GOP candidate, they would not just throw it away on a born again bimbo who wants to keep people from masturbating. She says America is socialist because teh government accounts for over 50% of GNP... she says that is the definition.
She is the BEST they could do. Just let that sink in.
sailwind
Ummmmmm...
The show was called, "Politically Incorrect" you were suppose to say politically incorrect things, that was.... errr, the whole purpose of the show. If she would say politically correct things on her appearances there it would kinda of defeat the whole purpose don't you think?
AS far as her being a flawed candidate in the race, I'd think the Democrats could have offered up a better than this Coon's guy. I mean he actually wrote an article not on a 'politically incorrect' entertainment show but in all seriousness, The title? “Chris Coons: The Making of a Bearded Marxist.”
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36726.html
Yeah, now there is a real winner for you in your background when you decide to run for public office in America.
GJDailleult
Have to admit I enjoy the Rove bashing here, but also feel a little sorry for the little guy. Whatever you think of him, he is a true believer in American "conservatism" (whatever that is), but now he has got himself done over by the red state cheerleader crowd (and in Delaware!!!). Just when he thought he was going up for the slam dunk against Team Obama (and yes I know he is now just a pundit, yeah right), he gets this O'Donnell woman screwing things up. And he is in between a rock and a hard place here. He can't say why he is so ticked off, but he can't not be seen to be ticked off.
In other words, he has seen The Producers. He knows how much money there is to be made and siphoned off in a sure-to-lose but populist political campaign. But he can't come out and say that is what happened because it would damage his party if people realized the amount of fraud going on. He got out-sleazed by a woman with a 6000 dollar a year income and her "backers".
Although I am sure that 6000 dollar income report was just because of a radical left wing bias in the media, and that she is really an independently wealthy witch.
MisterCreosote
Her "Democrat" rival is a self-described "bearded Marxist."
yabits
The "bearded Marxist" reference proves that anyone imply or calling it "self-described" is at the low end of the intelligence scale and/or the high end of the dishonesty scale.
Coons is a former Republican who worked on the campaigns of Ronald Reagan (1980) and former Delaware GOP senator William Roth. You see, in college, Coons learned to think and question for himself -- and that didn't go over too well with this former conservative colleagues.
After returning from a trip to Africa, Coons described his "conversion" away from his former conservatism. It was his conservative colleagues who jokingly described him as a "bearded Marxist," and he titled his paper that way to be a tongue-in-cheek reference to the label.
Hey, we've had conservative posters here who've claimed that Richard Nixon was on the far left. Is it any wonder that they can't anything else right?
adaydream
O'Donnell need to take care of her problems, but instead she starts calling the kettle black. She's jumping on the crazies band wagon, she's actually sitting shotgun, almost next to Palin. < :-)
http://www.newser.com/story/100990/obamas-a-secretl-muslim-odonnell-aide.html
jruaustralia
He he! I like her, I like her a lot!
Molenir
Ah, so you're saying she's a smart, intelligent, conservative woman who drives the libs nuts? Thats quite the endorsement aday.
GJDailleult
Dude behind O'Donnell is Sal Russo, head of the Tea Party Express and a 40 year Republican insider and general party hack. A real grass roots, spontaneous kind of guy, hehe!
Some people on this board just refuse to admit they are being conned. But if you sit down at the poker table and don't know who the mark is, then the mark is you.
idicemic
"The Palin is strong in this one" - John Stewart
O'Donnell is yet another one of "those" that needs to go away. She makes light of witchcraft, but somehow goes heavy on lust, liking it to infidelity. Nothing more disgusting than someone religious wagging their finger around, eh?
yabits
No. She needs to stay. The nation needs the kind of in-depth dialogue on choking the national chicken that it richly deserves. The Republicans whined when former Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders brought up the topic. (She even had to resign over it.)
On the other hand, a much clearer window into O'Donnell's deranged mind comes with her response to the question if she would have given up Anne Frank to the Nazis, or lied to have protected her. "Lying is wrong," O'Donnell said. Even if it is to the SS asking if there are any Jews hiding in the house.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph7jb4humhE
In her sanctimonious zeal, she manages to reveal herself as immoral scum. And the conservatives want to make a senator out of her.
tigermoth
How is being a witch - which one date with a practitioner hardly makes you so; if you briefly dated a Jewish man and put on his skull cap (sorry, can't spell the proper term) does that make you a Jew(??) - really interesting? If she had been a hooker or a Manson follower, that's at least interesting. Even given the public's need for sensationalism this is a lame mole hill/mountain attempt.
yabits
I find it interesting that you attempt to make a moral analogy between witchcraft and dating a member of the Jewish faith. How's about she dated a skinhead and tried on his swastika armband? Does that make her a skinhead? Not necessarily -- but there is a judgment issue that looms here that doesn't surface by dating a Jewish man.
Molenir
You note how many 10 year old videos of this woman are popping up all of a sudden? Isn't it amazing how the Dems have gone into kill mode immediately in order to discredit and destroy her? Personally, I find someone who is a conservative now, who made some mistakes in the past and has changed, far superior to a man who without a doubt is a communist. So, the choice is really between a real communist, or a girl who has a bit of a quirky past, but is on record as opposing the Obama agenda. Obviously you kool-aid drinkers, who believe that Obama can do no wrong, well we know which side you're on. For me though, you aren't being convincing. Especially when you consider that Coons is Dirty Harry's little lap-dog.
yabits
Changed? There is zero evidence that O'Donnell thinks it would be OK to lie to Nazis to save the life of Anne Frank. She's the same sanctimonious airhead who thinks nothing of illegally using campaign funds as her personal piggy bank.
So accused by someone who lies repeatedly.
yabits
There seems to be no end to the idiocy of the person vetted and assessed by conservatives as qualified to be a senator: O'Donnell actually considers the appointment of various positions often called "czars" to be unconstitutional on the grounds that it grants the appointee a "position of nobility."
idicemic
LOL, yabits, good points! I agree!
Sarge
There seems to be no end to the whining by liberals when conservatives win elections.
techall
It seem O'Donnell's opponent, Chril Coons, is unable to continue his campeign because he has mysteriously broken out in warts.
Junnama
I thought it was just a primary...
techall
O'Donnell actually considers the appointment of various positions often called "czars" to be unconstitutional on the grounds that it grants the appointee a "position of nobility."
That's not new, the appiontment of "czars" has always come under fire because it' not an official positionan and therefore not subject to congressional review.
yabits
He should be especially careful about getting a frog in his throat.
But granting a position of nobility? Come on now.
techall
Like a position of nobility......appointed with no one to say " hey, we don't like this guy". So you like the term "czar" better? What's the difference?
yabits
A position or title of nobility means no granting of royal titles. (Did you really need that explained?)
Constitutionally, the president is able to hire people for executive position jobs -- like Chief of Staff, White House chef, and press spokesman -- without needing Congressional approval.
Sarge
Christine O'Donnell continues to cast a spell on yabits, heh heh.
yabits
Not anything like the one that has the far right-wing entranced by her total cluelessness.
tigermoth
And I find it interesting that you choose to say that one superstitious religion has any more validity than the others simply based upon the number of practitioners. There is debate on whether Wicca is indeed a religion, but I should think that anyone with common sense not clouded by the teaching forced up on them from birth might be able to recognize that one belief in the supernatural is not so very different than the other. Is it any more ridiculous to believe that it is possible to cast a spell upon someone than it it to believe a man can walk on water and turn said water into wine? Your reference to skinheads and swastikas is irrelevant and nonsensical as it's hardly the same thing.
yabits
You obviously didn't read the quote below. What does Wicca have to do with satanic altars with blood?
“One of my first dates with a witch was on a satanic altar, and I didn’t know it. I mean, there’s little blood there and stuff like that,” she said. “We went to a movie and then had a little midnight picnic on a satanic altar.”
Oh, I hope the O'Donnell campaign will take your logic and run with it. Jesus, satanic worship -- it's all the same to you.