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This has nothing to do with guns. He could just as easily have killed eight people with a kitchen knife.

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Are you kidding me???

Again???

I can not often enough repeat it:

Thanks God that I am living in Japan!

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After the last mass shooting reported in JT on Tuesdays I predicted the next on on the weekend. I was wrong. Only two days later.

Still no idea as to why this keeps happening.. It could be due to the wide variety of breakfast cereals? Too much violence on TV? Or maybe, I know this is a long shot, the easy access to firearms?

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Another day, another mass shooting ... this lunacy has got stop.

A combination of mental illness and the availability of fire arms, in addition to the gun culture, is the culprit.

The USA does not have the political will to stop this decades old pandemic.

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Still no idea as to why this keeps happening.. It could be due to the wide variety of breakfast cereals? Too much violence on TV? Or maybe, I know this is a long shot, the easy access to firearms?

An "expert" guest on Fox News claims it is happening because people are being vaccinated for Covid-19. He claims crime will only get worse as more people are vaccinated. I could not make something like that up.

https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2021/05/26/fox-news-guest-ties-san-jose-shooting-and-rise-in-gun-violence-to-covid-vaccinations/

Even kookier I am certain there will some who post here in agreement with this sentiment.

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The individual “right to have lots of guns” has priority over the rights of society to be safe.

And the root of the "right to have lots of guns" is money in the pocket of the NRA and gun manufacturers.

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The US is such a dangerous place. Anyone would be a fool to willingly visit there. I feel sorry for those who live there.

This has nothing to do with guns. He could just as easily have killed eight people with a kitchen knife.

Yeah right, because we read every few days about mass murders with kitchen knives. Get real.

RIP to the innocent victims. There will be another mass shooting in the US this week. Guaranteed.

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Yet another Progressive American city wallowing in dysfunction.

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Another dead-endeder middle-age man with a gun. How depressingly predictable.

“What’s clear, as the President has said, is that we are suffering from an epidemic of gun violence in this country, both in mass shootings and in the lives that are being taken in daily gun violence that doesn’t make national headlines,” 

What is equally clear is that Mitch and his NRA masters will obstruct any effort to address the issue because “FREEDUMB!”

By which I mean the right of a cartel of gun manufacturers to make drug-dealer level profit margins on the sale of military-grade weapons to the general public, some of whom are morally or psychologically unfit to own them

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Yeah right, because we read every few days about mass murders with kitchen knives. Get real.

Learn how to read between the lines. I was being sarcastic.

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Learn how to read between the lines. I was being sarcastic.

But the left do make it seem that this is just a 24/7 non-stop shooting massacre mess and that’s all they focus on, it’s never by accident.

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But the left do make it seem that this is just a 24/7 non-stop shooting massacre mess and that’s all they focus on, it’s never by accident.

Lol because it is.

Here's mass shootings for the US so far just this year. We're number 1!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2021

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Learn how to read between the lines. I was being sarcastic.

Using sarcasm hours after 8 innocent people have been slaughtered by a madman? Bad karma.

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Again ??!!.. Last weekend there were 12 mass shootings !!..

It's a madness, the country is recovering from covid19 and shootings return more frequently than before the pandemic.

This wild west idealized by the republidumbs happytriggers is getting out of hand for the entire nation..

They just need to put John Wayne as president for the next elections.

And as if that were not enough too, a lot of white supremacism, racism, increased suicides, deaths from opiates, drug trafficking, police brutality against blacks and Latinos, etc. How hostile, savage and inhospitable the "land of the free" is becoming.. Third world !!..

How much I love my safe, safe, safe, civilized and guns free Japan !!..

This has nothing to do with guns. He could just as easily have killed eight people with a kitchen knife.

What a naive and untrue comment..

An "expert" guest on Fox News claims it is happening because people are being vaccinated for Covid-19. He claims crime will only get worse as more people are vaccinated. I could not make something like that up.

Whay can you expect from those ignorant antiscience medieval Trumpyrepublicans ??..

Yet another Progressive American city wallowing in dysfunction.

It's happening in the whole country !!!.. Facepalm !!..

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Yet another Progressive American city wallowing in dysfunction.

San Jose is a well run city. I have business there and both the city and Santa Clara County are easier to deal with than conservative Kern County or Lancaster, both of which always have their hand in my pocket for things San Jose doesn't waste your time with. Kern County has one of the highest rates of deaths by police shooting in the nation as does Bakersfield. This is Kevin McCarthy's district, solidly Republican. The murder rate in San Jose is below the national average per 1,000 residents, the rates of rape and robbery higher and the rate of assault lower than the national average. The crime rate is very slightly below that of the state as a whole. Mixed bag but not a bad place to live if you can afford it.

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"Rinse, repeat. Rinse, repeat, Rinse, repeat. Welcome to Anywhere, America." (or words to that effect)

Calif. Gov. Newsom

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When will the left learn and try to focus on mental illness

And who is going to pay for that? It's the right (TrumpCare) that wants to take away healthcare.

Yet another Progressive American city wallowing in dysfunction.

Like in Dallas with Micah Xavier Johnson

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and while everybody is offering their thoughts and prayers, in Texas new legislation passed to allow carrying concealed handguns without a permit.

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"Rinse, repeat. Rinse, repeat, Rinse, repeat. Welcome to Anywhere, America." (or words to that effect)

Calif. Gov. Newsom

Arizona right next door is an open carry state and they have twice the number of deaths by firearms per 1,000 residents as California. In fact California has the ninth lowest rate of death by firearms per 1,000 residents in the US. Gov. Newsom indeed!

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in Texas new legislation passed to allow carrying concealed handguns without a permit.

Remember how Micah Xavier Johnson was taken out in Dallas after killing 5 cops with his AR? It was a bomb delivered by a robot

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It's all here, 232 mass shootings so far this year

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

According to the Gun Violence Archive, at least 232 mass shootings – which they define as involving a minimum of four victims– have occurred so far in 2021, putting America on pace to have the highest number of mass shootings since 2014.

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Yet another crime committed by an NRA member....... oh, never mind.

Violent crime is on the rise in general this year across all cities in the US. This is not due to gun availability- the number of firearms purchased has been going up for years, yet the crime rate had been decreasing over the same time frame.

So what changed?

I say a combination of Covid fatigue, depression/nihilism brought on by lockdown, demonizing and defunding of police, are the reasons.

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https://computerhistory.org/blog/homelessness-the-problem-that-even-silicon-valley-cant-seem-to-solve/

The shooter had a home that was worth upward to a million dollars. Also SV is just a start and the housing crisis is spreading all through the US.

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Found this on the BBC today. I guess it depends on who is doing the counting and defining? 150 days into 2021.

"Across the US, there have been 230 mass shootings so far this year, according to the Gun Violence Archive. A mass shooting is defined by the group as a crime in which four or more people are shot."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57260869

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I say a combination of Covid fatigue, depression/nihilism brought on by lockdown,

Lockdowns aren't exclusive to the United States, they happen all over the world. Yet, mass shootings happen far more frequently in the US than elsewhere. Why is that?

demonizing and defunding of police, are the reasons.

Anything to avoid strengthening gun laws, sure.

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defunding of police, are the reasons.

Except when you look at actual budgets, police forces have not been defunded across the board. It's a mixed bag. More than half of US cities either kept police spending the same or increased it. San Jose CA increased its police funding slightly for FY21. Atlanta raised theirs proportionally more. Minneapolis hasn't changed heir police budget. Some cities have moved small proportions of police funding from cops to mental health professionals. I can't criticize that. Cops should not have to handle mental health calls. Most end up in tragedy. Many cities have across the board budget problems due to Covid-19 budget shortfalls. Meanwhile other cities have increased police funding. Let's stick to being truthful please.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-city-budget-police-defunding/

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and while everybody is offering their thoughts and prayers, in Texas new legislation passed to allow carrying concealed handguns without a permit

With the spike in crime, what is the problem with that? Since the left has waged a war on the police, seems like the logical recourse to take.

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With the spike in crime, what is the problem with that? 

If you banned guns, gun crime would go down. We know this is the case, because it has worked in every other country on Earth. Letting more people have guns in secret will increase gun crime. I hope that this has been enlightening.

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Since the left has waged a war on the police, seems like the logical recourse to take.

Lololol allowing anyone to conceal carry with 0 regulation is the opposite of logical. It's insanity.

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With the spike in crime, what is the problem with that? Since the left has waged a war on the police, seems like the logical recourse to take.

There will be certain people who are carrying concealed that have no idea how to people let use a firearm. We have posters on this site that repeatedly demonstrate that they have no clue about firearms. There posters also claim to be from Texas when they want to use a personal anecdote as evidence.

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and while everybody is offering their thoughts and prayers, in Texas new legislation passed to allow carrying concealed handguns without a permit.

And of course that makes complete sense - because who needs a license or training to carry an item that can kill...

It's time to fess up to the fact that America being awash in guns has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment - that's just an excuse used by the gun-nutters.

This is about power - or more accurately lack of power, and those who are uneducated, insecure, and feel hopeless and aggrieved, see their only power from carrying a gun - or having an arsenal in their basement if they are really insecure.

And when their feelings of insecurity and grievance reach a certain level, they use the only power they have to lash out - a gun.

The cycle will continue - until common sense gun control measures are enacted...

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If you banned guns, gun crime would go down.

You can believe that, I don’t and it’s pointless to dig at guns because the 2nd amendment thankfully isn’t going anywhere.

We know this is the case, because it has worked in every other country on Earth.

Ok, but I could care less about other countries. Other countries you would never see a black man as President of the free and most powerful world.

Letting more people have guns in secret will increase gun crime.

living in Texas and having been here on and off for 20 years, that’s not the case. I definitely feel safer when I’m there because of the law.

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California is a may issue state, meaning that the issue of a permit is left entirely up to the discretion of the local sheriff. California also has universal background checks and Extreme Risk Protection Orders (ERPOs) also known as red-flag laws.  An ex-girlfriend said he was prone to alcohol-fueled mood swings as a result of bipolar disorder and that he had been accused in a March 2009 court filing of rape and abuse, which may have disqualified him from obtaining a firearm. It must be said at this point that, as of now, “Authorities have not determined a motive, nor have they said whether Cassidy was a legal gun owner or what type of firearm was used in the attack.”  Of course, none of that would have stopped him from getting Snake down the road to file off a few serial numbers and sell him a banned weapon for $500.  In fact, “investigators discovered firearms and a large amount of ammunition” at his home.

Open carry is not legal in California, which has some of the strictest gun laws in the country. Concealed carry is legal with a permit, which is hard to get, and California gun laws also have a concealed carry requirement of at least eight hours of training which must include the teaching of California gun laws, live wire sessions in ranges, and safe handling of guns. I don't know what the rules regarding concealed carry were at his workplace. I assume they were against it. Because of that, chances are these victims (RIP) were basically sitting ducks to an attacker intent on doing harm.

Also, while what kind of weapon he used isn’t known at this point, California has an ‘assault weapons’ ban and a high-capacity magazine ban.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-05-26/police-swarm-active-shooter-incident-in-san-jose

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/who-is-san-jose-suspect-samuel-cassidy-ex-wife-details-anger-problems-authorities-probe-whether-fires-linked-to-shooting-that-killed-8/ar-AAKqb7i

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With the spike in crime, what is the problem with that? Since the left has waged a war on the police, seems like the logical recourse to take.

probably because I am not American, it is very difficult for me to understand the logic of making gun laws even more lax as a solution to gun violence epidemic

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If you banned guns, gun crime would go down. We know this is the case, because it has worked in every other country on Earth. 

Esteemed poster takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com will disagree with you on that point.

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You can believe that, I don’t and it’s pointless to dig at guns because the 2nd amendment thankfully isn’t going anywhere.

It's not a question of belief: it's the truth.

Ok, but I could care less about other countries. Other countries you would never see a black man as President of the free and most powerful world.

This doesn't make sense. "In other countries, their leader is not the President of the US"? OK. In other countries, the President from 2017-2021 wasn't a massive, embarrassing failure.

living in Texas and having been here on and off for 20 years, that’s not the case. I definitely feel safer when I’m there because of the law.

Texas is in the highest quartile for gun violence. It's an unsafe state.

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Esteemed poster takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com will disagree with you on that point.

OK.

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Gun crimes are getting more frequent and more deadly, so we need more guns.

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Is it even news anymore in the US if less than 10 people die? If they keep reporting these, there won't be room for any other news. The possibility of being a mass shooting when going about your normal day-to-day needs to be understood as a cost of living in the US. Don't like it? Leave. It's certainly never going to get any better.

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Esteemed poster takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com will disagree with you on that point.

No disagreement here, Sophs. Ban the guns, I couldn't care less. :D

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It's all here, 232 mass shootings so far this year

How could anyone want these mass shooting to continue. Those not part of the solution are part of the problem.

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Arguing with gun loving Americans is a waste of time. No number or manner of death will ever change their minds like such incidents did in other countries. Literally caring about your neighbours and community, the notion that it takes a community to raise a child, will be seen as socalism or communism or whatever.

Like believing you're going to get through to the rightwing trolls here, who couldn't be happier to let you know that no matter how far USA has gone, they want more.

No point in ever visiting the USA. There are a multitude of other countries to visit

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It's all here, 232 mass shootings so far this year

How could anyone want these mass shooting to continue. Those not part of the solution are part of the problem.

What problem? The Americans are ok with this. They feel that the risk of being shot at any given time of the day is worth it to be able to live there.

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bass4funk -

living in Texas and having been here on and off for 20 years, that’s not the case. I definitely feel safer when I’m there because of the law.

You feel safer in Texas over Japan? Because of guns? You cannot be serious. Texas is one of the most awful and dangerous places in the world. No one I know would ever contemplate stepping foot in Texas due to the extreme danger.

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It's not a question of belief: it's the truth.

A one-sided partisan partial truth.

This doesn't make sense. "In other countries, their leader is not the President of the US"?

Not you to, but to every legal gun owner it does. I only care about the US, so what other countries do and think is irrelevant to me and every single law-abiding gun owner.

Texas is in the highest quartile for gun violence. It's an unsafe state.

Tell that to the millions that are moving there. You won’t see cities out of control anywhere in Texas like Chicago, Philly, Baltimore, Oakland or Detroit, never.

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A one-sided partisan partial truth.

Nope. It's the whole truth, and nothing but.

Not you to, but to every legal gun owner it does. I only care about the US, so what other countries do and think is irrelevant to me and every single law-abiding gun owner.

You're once again addressing something completely different, so I'll accept this as another surrender on your part. Thank you for agreeing with me, once more.

Tell that to the millions that are moving there.

I don't have the time to speak to millions of people individually, but they can read the post I made confirming this on Japan Today Dot Com.

You won’t see cities out of control anywhere in Texas like Chicago, Philly, Baltimore, Oakland or Detroit, never.

Oh. Weird, I thought high gun violence and cities out of control on the border is why we needed a wall, but now you're saying there is no crisis at the border? OK. Thanks again for agreeing we don't need a wall. What a waste of time the last four years was.

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Nope. It's the whole truth, and nothing but.

Ok, for you, not for me.

You're once again addressing something completely different,

I don’t think so, sorry

Oh. Weird, I thought high gun violence and cities out of control on the border is why we needed a wall,

That’s the southern border, which has nothing to do with the Silicone Valley incident or law-abiding gun owners

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You know where this doesn't happen on a daily basis? Countries that actually care enough about people's lives to ban guns.

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Ok, for you, not for me.

The cool thing about the truth is that it is universal.

That’s the southern border, which has nothing to do with the Silicone Valley incident or law-abiding gun owners

Texas is on the southern border. It's odd that you don't know this, as a long-term resident.

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law-abiding gun owners

I would just like to point out the absurdity of this statement. All gun owners are law abiding until they're not. Good grief.

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Texas gunshot deaths 2019, 3,683

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They already tried to ban guns and it never happened during the Obama administration maybe Biden will fullfill what Obama couldn't accomplish .

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Texas gunshot deaths 2019, 3,683

And that's when the lights were on...geez, can just imagine what they'll be for 2021....

No wonder Ted Cruz thinks Cancun is safer...

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I would just like to point out the absurdity of this statement. All gun owners are law abiding until they're not. Good grief.

Sure, not all people with guns are necessarily law abiding, if for instance, they were to obtain it illegally. You could just as easily say all men are non-violent until they are not. Should their civil rights be preemptively curtailed on the small chance that they might beat their spouse or girlfriend? You would have to use pre-cognition to determine whose liberty should be curtailed on the chance that a gun, a knife, a hammer, etc would be used in a crime.

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Ridiculous.

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Texas is on the southern border. It's odd that you don't know this, as a long-term resident.

Yes, and still you’re not seeing thousands of people murdered every single day, it doesn’t happen and it wouldn’t happen contrast that now with other cities if that have an extreme high crime rate like Chicago And it’s funny you just don’t hear about the senseless murder rate in the cities, but once it happens in a place Iike Silicon Valley, all of a sudden it’s all over the news, typical of the left, typical.

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NRA must die.

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NRA must die.

They are heading that way.

https://www.thetrace.org/2021/05/nra-bankruptcy-dismissal-bad-faith-claim-texas-court/

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we have a name, an age, a full criminal history, an ex girlfriend comment and a picture already.

compare this to other shooters and wonder why.

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compare this to other shooters and wonder why.

Lol what's your theory there, Einstein?

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Texas needs better gun laws.

Women in Texas are 24% more likely to be murdered with a gun than women in other states.

https://www.txgunsense.org/articles/texas-gun-violence-facts

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Not news in a country with hundreds of millions of guns and easy access to them. It's expected.

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