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Oregon hotel apologizes a week after kicking out black man

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Hate crime should equal jail. Do that to a Jew and all hell would be let loose.

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Regarding the Starbuck's ruckus, as a small business owner myself, if somebody came in to my business, sat down and hung around taking up space for a long period of time . . . well, I'd politely but firmly ask them to leave too, and I doesn't matter to me what color they are. The same goes for the parking area. There's a word for it and it's not new, it's called loitering. It has more to do with good manners than race.

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exactly, take a phone call outside if neither you or your group are a guest, you have no business at the hotel... i am appalled a hotel need to apologize

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Doubletree really stepped in it, both by their initial actions and bungled response. Imagine the JT response if this had happened to a caucasian at a Japanese hotel.

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Last month, police in the Seattle suburb of Kirkland helped the owner of a frozen yogurt shop kick out a black man because employees said they felt uncomfortable.

Employees don't suddenly feel uncomfortable for no reason. I highly doubt it was just because he was black. There must've been some other factor that isn't being mentioned.

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Oregon and Portland have a nasty history of racism:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/06/07/when-portland-banned-blacks-oregons-shameful-history-as-an-all-white-state/?utm_term=.93493dc54c5f

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Along with his mother, Massey was staying at the hotel. I don’t know how the confrontation escalated, but it can’t be argued that, as a paying guest, he had no business being in the hotel lobby.

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Alex EinzToday  01:12 pm JST

“exactly, take a phone call outside if neither you or your group are a guest, you have no business at the hotel... i am appalled a hotel need to apologize”

But the article says Mr Massey was staying at the hotel, therefore he was a guest and I see no problem with him taking a call in the lobby.

“The security guard told Massey that if he could not provide a room number, he would be asked to leave. The Washington state resident was staying at the hotel and left with an officer, according to a police report.”

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A number of the posts above make me feel uncomfortable. No wonder race remains such an issue.

1st post:

Hate crime should equal jail. Do that to a Jew and all hell would be let loose.

This hardly qualifies as a hate crime, but your use of "jew" is a bit disturbing. A subtle reference to powerful Jews and their apparent control of the media.

2nd post:

Regarding the Starbuck's ruckus, 

Why Starbucks? This is an article about the hotel story. Why start with some other story?

3rd post:

exactly, take a phone call outside if neither you or your group are a guest, 

He was a guest.

Black people in the US receive different and poorer treatment in their daily lives that white people cannot appreciate.

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Why didn't he just tell them his room number? That's what I would have done and this would not have happened despite me being a minority. Some people just feel entitled and think everything is about them.

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Why didn't he just tell them his room number? That's what I would have done

That's easy for you to say.

If I'm in a hotel lobby in Japan relaxing, and I'm the only clear minority and they skip everyone else and come and ask what room I'm staying in, I'm going to get my hackles up as well. At any proper hotel, they remember who the guests are - by name.

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There's a word for it and it's not new, it's called loitering.

Nah, it's called bigotry. A rich and seemingly neverending part of US life.

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Employees don't suddenly feel uncomfortable for no reason. I highly doubt it was just because he was black. There must've been some other factor that isn't being mentioned.

Oh well, thanks for sorting it out. It can't have been racism it must have been something else. I'm glad you can write with such certainty.

Why didn't he just tell them his room number? 

Exactly, as a black guy he should be used to this, along with other low level harassment like being pulled over by the cops or being shot at for walking through a white neighbourhood. Why does he get upset?

Just cooperate with it and he can be treated nearly the same as the white guests (as long as he doesn't go near the white women's handbags).

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The defence here of the hotel's racism is very depressing, that and the victim blaming.

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Agree Luddite. In college I had a couple of black fraternity brothers who I lived with at various points. Glad I did. It opened my white privileged eyes. The amount of subtle (mostly) and even overt prejudice and racism was astonishing. From we are standing in a group at a bar drinking beers and someone asks my friend to clean up a mess thinking since they are the only black person there they must be a bus boy, to driving by our flag football practice and yelling “ni**** go back to Africa!” out the window of their car.

They had to put up with this all the time and if ut had been me, I probably would have turned violent and often. They are better than me in that respect and it makes me want to puke when I have to listen to folks victim blaming and try to minimize the fact that racism is alive and well.

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They had to put up with this all the time and if ut had been me, I probably would have turned violent and often. They are better than me in that respect and it makes me want to puke when I have to listen to folks victim blaming and try to minimize the fact that racism is alive and well.

I'm with you. I had a close friend growing up for a number of years in my teens who was black, and he had to deal with so much latent BS it was ridiculous. It makes a person hard over time. Then one day, one of those hardened people is sitting in a hotel he's rightfully in, and they come and harass him. Not any of the people in the lobby who aren't black, him. Why should he have to justify himself?

And honestly, as far as hotel service is concerned, that's a grievous error. A person should never be asked to leave until they are entirely sure that the person should not be there. I know that seems like a catch 22, but that catch 22 exists, because when they are wrong, it's about the worst possible service a hotel can provide. If I'm a guest, and I get harassed in the hotel lobby, or if someone I've invited is waiting for me and is harassed by them, you can bet they are going to get an earful, regardless of any race. So to do it to the guy who is a visible minority, that's even worse. Because even if it isn't racism, it certainly opens up the question. This is why a hotel should never be asked to leave until they are absolutely sure the person should not be there.

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There's insufficient information here to make an informed assessment.

As a White guy, in the past, I too have been asked to leave the premises of an establishment, simply because I was loitering around inside for too long, to avoid the rain whilst waiting for a friend. I understood at that time, that I had been there for quite some time, and could have been mistaken as some Criminal scoping out the place. So as I really had no business to be there, I left without kicking up a fuss.

Sadly, I feel there are some around who would choose to make a similar situation into a race/color thing, or even to cause the situation in the first place in order to gain attention...

So in this case, I believe the report as given above lacks a lot of information in order to be able to make any form of assessment. I wonder, indeed, if this vagueness was done on purpose, (as has been seen in other news items herein) simply to elicit responses that would take one side or the other.... should anyone have a link to the news story being reported in more detail, please provide it, as that may help.

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should anyone have a link to the news story being reported in more detail, please provide it, as that may help

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/28/us/portland-hotel-police-black-guest-trnd/index.html

Actually Ulster, it seems that at one point, he in fact showed the security guard and the police his hotel key card and envelope with his room number written on it.

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"No one should be treated this way, and I hope this serves as a catalyst for necessary changes that address the systemic nature of discrimination of all forms," he wrote on Twitter.

This isn’t an example of “systemic racism “. Affirmative action is systematic racism. Regardless, I hope this man gets a six figure settlement from his discrimination lawsuit against DoubleTree.

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Affirmative action is systematic racism.

LOL! It was not slavery, not the Black codes, not the Jim Crow laws, and overt racial bias in education, workforce, and political representation; however, Affirmative action is systemic racism.

Someone please rationalize this illogical claim!

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The systemic racism in the US is one particular racial group using the police as a tool to harass African Americans. That is what Wolfpack meant to say!

Why White Americans Call The Police On Black People In Public Spaces

https://www.npr.org/2018/05/15/611389765/why-white-americans-call-the-police-on-black-people-in-public-spaces

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Regardless, I hope this man gets a six figure settlement from his discrimination lawsuit against DoubleTree.

Because of systemic racism?

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Regardless, I hope this man gets a six figure settlement from his discrimination lawsuit against DoubleTree.

Oh, the irony!

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It seems the staff involved have now been fired by the hotel.

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