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Osama bin Laden softens tone in audiotape message, but to what end?

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I don't want a Video of his Holiness, clean-shaven, hair-trimmed sunning himself on a South American beach while the CIA picks up the tab for his drinks and Girls. ;)

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Hope it is not Musharraf's voice, the former President of Pakistan who has re-entered politics and launched a new party. If not, it has to OBL's ghost.

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Could be OBL, if he is alive doubt he is still living in a cave. Most likely changed his appearance and been moved to a new location.

OTOH, he could have been caught and been salted away somewhere and beeing now used by friendly forcers.

Or the messages are fakes composited of previous voice-samples, etc. Not that hard to do with todays computers and voice synhesizers.

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Rumour has it he's living with Kim-san in North Korea. They're playing chess/shogi alternatively connected to their respective dialysis machines, both talking about their glory days, or as referred to above OBL might not be on this earth anymore. In which case, Kim is playing with himself.

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To what end? He sees the kind of action, money and babes 60-something Al Gore is getting with his enviro guru schtick and he wants in on the game.

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OBL worried about climate change? is his cave getting bit stuffy?

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Interesting that people still say 'if it's really him' after two messages in less than a week. Whatever.

The guy can't do what he's done and say what he's said and expect people to take him seriously when he expresses the need to support any given people with aid, regardless of whether the message that Pakistan needs help and the environment needs attending to is true or not.

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OBL, like Cuba's Castro, may be mellowing out in his dotage. Eventually he'll release an autobiography produced by a ghostwriter and, basking in his status as a bestselling author, go around making appearances on Oprah and Jon Stewart's Daily Show.

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an audio tape...but who sent it? What evidence is there its Bin Laden? Because back in 2001 we have this report: FOX News Report: Bin Laden Already Dead

Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.

SO who is sending those tapes?

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and 'A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement announced yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa'da organization, stating that binLaden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death. [Welfare State] '

SO who is sending those tapes?

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Brianct: yeah, I guess Bin Laden also had the gift of foresight then if he died so long ago and is still talking about events that happened just a few months ago.

Beelzebub: "OBL, like Cuba's Castro, may be mellowing out in his dotage."

As much as yanks may not like Castro, I don't think you can really compare the two.

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The CIA has already admitted that they fake audio/video messages from AlQaida/Bin Laden. Memory hole, indeed.

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I'm confused. So...he's dead? Or is he alive? Or is he alive and on the CIA payroll? Or did he never exist?

Why don't you ever see conspiracy theorists duke it out against each other? It's like they have some kind of unspoken policy where they only argue against sane people or something.

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Bin Laden is dead. Kidney failure. But it doesn't matter anyway. Bin Laden was our (the US) boy, just like Saddam.

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What I don't understand is why Barack Obama has been unable to catch or kill this guy after over 20 months in power. Yeah, yeah, Bush had 7 years, but we were all hoping for change...

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Simon, can you give us any proof that he's dead?

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I guess Bin Laden also had the gift of foresight then if he died so long ago and is still talking about events that happened just a few months ago.

smith...what evidence is there is he alive? Audio recordings are not evidence, as they can be faked.What makes you sure its him talking?

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What I don't understand is why Barack Obama has been unable to catch or kill this guy after over 20 months in power.

why are people so clueless? If OBL hasnt been caught..thats because there was no intention of catching him...but the evidence says he died late in 2001..since then he given no interviews...all we get are the unsourced videos and now audio recordings.

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"If OBL hasn't been caught..thats because there was no intention of catching him"

Are you calling Barack Obama a liar?

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"the evidence says he died in late 2001"

Are you calling AP liars?

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Are you calling Barack Obama a liar?

shat has Obama got to do with this?

Are you calling AP liars?

AP is just the messenger...id call SITE liars

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I do not really think it matters if OBL is dead or alive, because he is already a larger than life, kind of superman for many, many angry Muslims all around the world, they see how corrupt the filthy rich Saudi royal family is, enjoying life while those Pakistani flood victims are shivering in the cold, hungry so OBL or whomever is making these so called tapes calling for more help for the Muslim Pakistani flood victims, well it will be easy to win the hearts and minds of hungry, poor Paksitanis who are getting bombed by US drone missiles, right??

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Yet the question by Sarge is a good one, give me proof that OBL is really dead?? It is like asking give me proof their really is a god??

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"An audio tape purported to be from bin Laden"

Very funny! ...a multimillionare cannot afford an HD quality camcorder? ha ha!

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sarge You telling me they found saddam hussain in a hole in the desert and they couldn't find a guy who is over 6 foot tall and an entourage in the last 15 years. Are you kidding me?

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"the 13-minute, nine second audiotape"

I'll bet it's either a 60 minute or a 90 minute tape.

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they see how corrupt the filthy rich Saudi royal family is, enjoying life while those Pakistani flood victims are shivering in the cold, hungry so OBL or whomever is making these so called tapes calling for more help for the Muslim Pakistani flood victims

Oh man, the reason for the flooding was mismanagement of the dams and waterways, not global warming and the reason for the suffering is the corruption of the Pakistani officials in charge of administering funds. OBL must get his news directly from the Pakistani Islamist propaganda machine.

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I find it strange that on one end, the US government say that bin Laden is the ring leader of Al Qaida on the other end the US government does not mention 9/11 on bin Laden's most wanted page.

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The FBI says it has no firm evidence OBL was behind 9-11...thats why THE FBI web page on him has no mention of 9-11....and why SITE cant be trusted as a source

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brianct: "smith...what evidence is there is he alive?"

What evidence is there that he's dead? Is he dead like Castro was dead? Like Kim Jong Il?

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What evidence is there that he's dead? Is he dead like Castro was dead? Like Kim Jong Il?

Just google bin laden dead...or go read David ray Griffins book on Obama wanted dead or alive. Im still waiting for evidence OBL is alive...and no : SITE is not a trustworthy source.

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The FBI says it has no firm evidence OBL was behind 9-11...thats why THE FBI web page on him has no mention of 9-11....and why SITE cant be trusted as a source

So you are saying bin Laden is wanted for 9/11 but FBI isn't?

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So you are saying bin Laden is wanted for 9/11 but FBI isn't?

Youer not very clued in...Go visit the FBI Bin Laden page...Also Bush himself said eventually that he wasnt interested in Bin Laden

OBL had served his purpose as the Goldstein for the neocon war of terror

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Also Bush himself said eventually that he wasnt interested in Bin Laden

You took that one out of context. Lefties always do. And you insult the memory of Orwell with your fatuous assumptions about which side he would be on today were he still alive.

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"this is likely: 'is this true? Its certainly likely:

Attempting to make light of the understandable suspicions that the “terror trackers” are working for Israeli intelligence, the Spiegel article jokes: “And the conspiracy theories pontificating that SITE and IntelCenter shoot the bin Laden videos themselves will continue to exist in the future.....

Well it wasnt done by OBL or alqaeda...SO ask yourselves WHO benefits?"

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I see on Yahoo News that bin Laden is said to be living in NW Pakistan with the support of the local tribesmen and members of the Pakistani Intelligence Service. Obama needs to do something about this.

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Who still believes he is alive !?????? ! . . .Honestly, if OBL were alive ,don't you think they would issue a VIDEO of his holiness ! . . OBL emerges whenever American wants to justify another security OR war initiative.

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