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Got great ratings for her spot on SNL.

But, she's been a drag on the McCain campaign. < :-)

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I'm so happy to hear the Alec Baldwin part. "That Horrible Woman" just about nails Palin and how a lot of us feel about her perfectly. From now on, that's her name as far as I am concerned.

"That Horrible Woman" was on SNL again. "That Horrible Woman" is destroying McCain's campaign. 50% of Americans will defect to Russia if McCain is elected, dies and Palin takes office. At least you can respect Putin, his form of evil requires intelligence and that wins a lot more points that Palin's flat earther profile.

Thankfully, "That Horrible Woman" will likely close the door on a GOP presidental victory locking them out to the benefit of the nation.

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Kudos to Alec Baldwin, I say.

Big ratings were the result of so many people expecting Palin to come out with some new gaffe, or further demonstration of her ignorance and profound unsuitability to run much more than a warm bath for the kids.

Managing to avoid humiliating herself is now regarded as a major victory - which demonstrates just how much credibility this fiasco of a Republican campaign actually has.

All Obama has to do is keep quiet and let McCain-Palin complete their self-destruction.

FnC

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frontandcentre: you are right on the button

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So she drew big ratings on a show that was bashing her... what does that say? What's more, I believe she mostly just sat back and watched.

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I concur with smith. The woman is such a joke that she doesn't have to tell any.

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50% of Americans will defect to Russia if McCain is elected, dies and Palin takes office.

Great. The U.S. doesn't need these leftists dragging the country down with their failed socialist agenda anyway. In fact, how can we get them to defect right now?

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Why do people want to watch this horrible woman, from what i have heard from friends she has a very nasty intolerant side.

apparently , she is not sympathetic to gays and minorities, and she thinks god made the woeld in 7 days. How could any country think about liking such a backward thinking woman.

if McCain and this "woman" win, i think i'll cry, i really do, and i think many like me will as well.

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"50% of Americans will defect to Russia if McCain is elected, dies and Palin takes office."

Canada ain't exactly my first pick for an escape option but calling it 'Russia' is a bit much.

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Om my god!! don't go to Russia, it's full of gay bashers and skinheads.

i just read about Palin online, she really is a nut case. I think anyone who supports her, belongs in the loony bin.

Vote for Obama and you'll be awight!

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"best ratings in 14 years"

Palin is hugely popular.

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Helter: "Great. The U.S. doesn't need these leftists dragging the country down with their failed socialist agenda anyway. In fact, how can we get them to defect right now?"

Oh, the irony! (except it's more ignorance than irony) You have all of the liberal, intelligent people leave the country and what have you got left? blind sheep who would follow political neo-cons' every word without question. In fact, you'd have exactly the kind of dictatorship you pretend to abhor. Sure, it'd be led by so-called 'elected' officials, and you wouldn't have any 'socialist' programs (ie. health care and education for all), but you'd still be left with what amounts to a very secular, communist-like society no different than those you rail against.

Meanwhile, Russia would become far more democratic than it's ever been, more open-minded and less bigoted country. You want to dig your country into the ground like Bush has been doing for eight years, that's your desire and you're entitled to it; but don't speak on behalf of your country-people who want to actually make things BETTER instead of more insular, dictatorial, etc.

Moderator: Stay on topic please.

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MikeBarrymore

she is not sympathetic to gays and minorities

You seem very sure in your statement. What specifically has she done in her political career that's been unsympathetic to gays and minorities? Please share with us some specific examples, keeping in mind that both Obama and Biden have stated they too are opposed to gay marriage.

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Helter Skelter- I saw jeremy Paxman on TV saying that she believes in the bible literally, and she believes only a man and woman should be together. She believes that gays are wrong and God is against them.

She is an extremist loony in my opinion. She scares me a lot.

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I saw jeremy Paxman on TV saying that she believes in the bible literally, and she believes only a man and woman should be together. She believes that gays are wrong and God is against them.

Yes, it should be male dinosaur with female human or vice versa, as God ordained.

She actually looked nervous and excited to be on SNL. I would be too, I guess, if I weren't a pandaring public official. As if we need the line between politics and entertainment blurred any further.

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In the first Democratic Presidential endorsement by the Chicago Tribune in 161 years:

McCain failed in his most important executive decision. Give him credit for choosing a female running mate--but he passed up any number of supremely qualified Republican women who could have served. Having called Obama not ready to lead, McCain chose Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. His campaign has tried to stage-manage Palin's exposure to the public. But it's clear she is not prepared to step in at a moment's notice and serve as president. McCain put his campaign before his country.

The Salt Lake Tribune had this to say:

Then, out of nowhere, and without proper vetting, the impetuous McCain picked Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate. She quickly proved grievously underequipped to step into the presidency should McCain, at 72 and with a history of health problems, die in office. More than any single factor, McCain's bad judgment in choosing the inarticulate, insular and ethically challenged Palin disqualifies him for the presidency.

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"best ratings in 14 years" Palin is hugely popular.

It's called rubbernecking, Sarge. You see it often with traffic accidencts and other disasters.

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I don't know why everyone has such a hate on for this lady. When Hillary was running, the mere negative talk of her damn near got you labeled as a sexist. Now, its open season. She is still quite young, and btw, looks a lot better than most of her female politician counterparts. She just seemed to follow a more non-liberal way of life. What do you expect someone from Alaska? and let's not forget, she isn't that much more inexperienced than Obama.

Had she not changed a thing, ran on a democratic ticket, she would be loved. That is how it works. Debate me as much as you want but at least she hasn't over drawn her checking account like many, many many democrate women have.

Did any of you actually watch the show, I don't know how to get it from Japan. She looked good though.

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MikeBarrymore

I saw jeremy Paxman on TV saying that she believes in the bible literally, and she believes...

All well and good. But you stated "she is not sympathetic to gays and minorities". Again, please give me specific examples from her years as a public servant when she's been unsympathetic to gays and minorities. You are apparently familiar with her record by the statement you made. Just give me a few examples. Certainly it has to be more than gay marriage since Obama and Biden are opposed to it as well.

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I used Russia as an extreme people will be willing to go to if Palin became president.

Helter_Skelter: Dream on. Without all that left wing influence your right wing nation would be an uneducated collection of flat earthers who would make the Confederacy look successful.

Give it a rest. It was our liberal thinking that created this nation out of a desire for freedom, tolerance and idealism about how all people could live free and equal. Your right wing bend has distorted these ideas into something neo-fascist that would be more at home in Musolini's mind than in the minds of our forefathers.

Defeat is coming. And maybe we can fence of Idaho so you can have your right wing state while the rest of us get on with building a new future.

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I don't know why everyone has such a hate on for this lady.

Christianophobia.

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Helter skelter- Mrs Palin interprets the bible to fit in with her extremist beliefs.

She thinks gays do not deserve equality under the law. She is scary, i bet all gays in America are terrified of her winning. Probably gays who supported McCain changed to Obama because of the insane woman.

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I'm so happy to hear the Alec Baldwin part. "That Horrible Woman" just about nails Palin and how a lot of us feel about her perfectly.

Interesting...yet we also get this.

It was our liberal thinking that created this nation out of a desire for freedom, tolerance and idealism about how all people could live free and equal.

I guess being called a horrible woman is just a way of basking in tolerance and freedom and idealism from enlightnened liberal thinking.

Think I'll pass on your version of tolerance if a person just doesn't quite fit your version of what a very sucessful woman and a very succesful Governor should be like.

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tkoind2

the rest of us get on with building a new future.

Ah yes, the future under Obama. There will be one good thing about living under a socialist government. I'll never have to leave the country to experience the third world. Everyday will be like a vacation to Cuba or the former Soviet Union. I'll be able to experience the misery socialism has caused millions all over the world right here. Well done progressives!

BTW "Building a new future" - wasn't that slogan used by Joseph Stalin?

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Not necessarily a horrible woman. But definitely a horrible candidate.

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"best ratings in 14 years" Palin is hugely popular.

Indeed, Palin is great at generating laughs (unintended ones). Bush is also quite good at it, with his constant moronic comments, often referred to as bushisms.

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Nessie,

Have to agree, but it's nice to see any candidate with a sense of humor. The skit was funny.

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Palin is as about as un-American as they come, not even separating church and state, --which are pillars of the American construct-- she should and needs to be the butt of jokes because she is both.

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skipthesong,

I don't think people have a hate on for Palin. I think people just hate the idea that such an unprepared and unrepresentative person would be next in line for the presidency.

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"I don't think people have a hate on for Palin."

Again, imagine the outrage and hysteria if roles were reversed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-NKZbBHQ7A

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coulrophobia,

In the case of Palin, how would we reverse those roles? Would we have Palin attacking the football player with a flying tackle? with a Moose Gun? Or would we have Pam Grier attacking Joe Biden?

For the roles to be reversed, they have to be reversible. Same way with clothing. Otherwise people just ask you why you're wearing your jacket inside out.

Personally, I find the Terry Tate ads offensive and I'd be surprised if there weren't some outrage and hysteria in conjunction with them. But let me ask you this, would outrage and hysteria be any less if Terry Tate were white? Are you looking at this as a black man attacking a white woman or are you looking at it as a big hulking linebacker attacking a clueless politician?

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Palin is just the doll that the republicans trot out to ignite the crowd. But when it comes to decisions that affect the campaign, she is not in the loop. She can't talk to the media and her own camp does not trust what she will say next. Her job is just to stand there, look pretty, but leave the decisions up to the adults who know better. I find it insulting, that the person who is running for the position of the second highest office in the land is treated like an idiot. This does not instills a lot of trust for the McCain/Palin ticket.

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I just read about Palin online, she really is a nutcase..."

And, of course, anything you read online is The Absolute Truth, lol!

"... She is an extremist looney in my opinion"

Opinion noted.

"It's called rubbernecking, Sarge."

It is not rubbernecking. Palin is genuinely popular with average Americans. Don't worry about it, it's something you can't be expected to understand.

In Obama's case, it's called blind allegiance.

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Palin is genuinely popular with average Americans

I don't think you can use the word average, since she doesn't have the kinds of numbers approaching anything like that. If anything, she is popular with an ever increasing minority, and soon their vote will be overwhelmed by that of the "average American", and rightly so. Down with Palin and the on-the-spot-nonsense she is forced to eschew to pretend that she is suitable for the job, any job.

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Hey eschew means to shun or avoid. Well waddyaknow doggoneit. Let's make that on-the-spot-nonsense she is forced to spew. Yes, that will do.

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Sarge please don't quote out of context. Here it is again for you.

Down with Palin and the on-the-spot-nonsense she is forced to spew to pretend that she is suitable for the job, any job.

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Palin doesn't have to pretend she is suitable for the job. Like I said, she's more qualified for the job of president than Obama is. Plus she's never hung out with terrorists and rascist preachers.

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Palin doesn't have to pretend she is suitable for the job

Yes, she does.

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sezwho:

"I don't think people have a hate on for Palin."

How about a second example, in which physical size makes no difference. Jon Stewart on a university campus and hurling the f-word at Gov. Palin.

Again, imagine the hysteria and the outrage if a TV celebrity of anywhere near Stewart's status and known to be conservative did this to Obama.

"She said that small towns, that's the part of the country she really likes going to because that's the pro-America part of the country. You know, I just want to say to her, just very quickly: [expletive] you," Stewart said to raucous applause.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/10/

video also available on yuotube.

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Look. If you see a fire burning a house down are you going to scream out the warning "Fire" and pull the alarm bells?

I see Sarah Palin as a dangerous threat to the principles of our nation, to the freedom and privacy of individuals, to the standards of social tolerance and to the constitution and rights guaranteed in our nation. She is an extreme right winger with radical religious and political ideas. And she has demonstrated a clear lack of understanding of what the VP can and cannot do under the constitution.

So I'm yelling out fire and pulling the alarms because I don't want to live in a nation run by people who will take away the liberties of others.

Sailwind. Let me be clear. I will be among the first in the street to protect Palin's right to practice her religion, to speak what she believes in and to pursue her political agenda. That is what liberty and freedom are all about and we do need to protect them.

But she is "that awful woman" for me because I see the danger she represents. So I am also one of the first in the streets to protect the rights that she will threaten if elected.

That is liberty my friend. Protection of the principles that our nation stands for. But equally standing against threats to those same rights. Got it now?

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"I see Sarah Palin has a dangerous threat to the principles of our nation"

I see Barack Obama as a dangerous threat to the principles of our nation.

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What is this deal with "Pro-American" parts of the country? So does this just mean Red states. So Utah, Wyoming etc... So Washington, Oregon, California, New York are now somehow "Anti-American"

This should frighten people. When did we give power to politicians to tell us who is pro or anti American based upon their voting preference? When did where you live have something to do with being pro or anti American?

This kind of talk is a little too close to lines I have heard from autocratic nations and fascist states. So is this the America that Palin and her crowd are selling us now?

I am pro-American. But I don't support Palin or McCain's vision of America. In fact I can see fighting against such a totalitarian regime. And I'll bet a lot of other patriotic Americans would fight to support and keep their rights too.

If you are not afraid of leaders who divide us into pro-and anti American batches based upon our political preference and voting choice, then you should be or you are one of their ne-fascist followers.

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coulrophobic,

Well, I can see that you are working on your own outrage and hysteria.

I don't know what to tell you. When I go to YouTube and search for "f Palin" I get 5 hits. When I search for "f Obama" I get 64. On Google, the numbers are 10,400 for Palin and and 46,600 for Obama. I suspect that these numbers are a little biased in Palin's favor as a disproportionate number of people might mean that literally in Palin's case. Anyway, where's the outrage and hysteria?

I take your point about Stewart being a celebrity, but so is Rush Limbaugh. He doesn't have to use the "f" word. It is everywhere implied in any of his comments about Barack Hussein Obama. Where's the hysteria and outrage?

The hysteria and outrage, I think, is on the part of a hard-core cadre of right-wing ideologues who refuse to look at the obvious failings of the last 7+ years and of the current candidates.

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Well done Sarah Palin - participating in your own national humiliation is something few have done before

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I guess showing up on SNL was the only way for Palin to get TV coverage without people laughing at her.

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But she is "that awful woman" for me because I see the danger she represents.

I think you don't want to admit that the danger she represents is that she will take votes away from Obama that he had before and therefore is a threat that must be defeated at all costs through lies, smears and innuedo.

I see Sarah Palin as a dangerous threat to the principles of our nation, to the freedom and privacy of individuals, to the standards of social tolerance and to the constitution and rights guaranteed in our nation.

You offer no proof what so ever in your allegations. I have looked at her record as Governor of Alaska and as Mayor of Wasilla, there is not one shred of evidence in any of her policies or the way she has Governed her State or for that matter any public speech she has made that supports your view. Sorry I looked at the Governors record and her legislative agenda that she promised the voters that she would do if elected. It is apparent that you have not and would rather dwell in the smear campaign agaisn't her the moment she was announced. I like what she did for the people of Alaska as Governor seems others would rather ignore that and just tear her down. I find that more disturbing about a whole swath of people who want to destroy her than I have any concern I have about her trying to force her religious beliefs on me, when there has been zilch evidence that she has ever even tried to do something like that in the first place through her entire public life.

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I think you don't want to admit that the danger she represents is that she will take votes away from Obama that he had before and therefore is a threat that must be defeated at all costs through lies, smears and innuedo.<

You are kidding right? If Palin does anything for the GOP it will be to lose them votes. I think very few people think she is qualified for the job. And I think she scares even a lot of GOP people.

As for her record. Using public office for personal vendetta? Kind of an ethics problem don't you think? And her whole "Pro-American" concept should make anyone living outside a red state worried.

Sailwind. Being Mayor of a gas stop sized town and governor of a state with a population less than many lower 48 cities does not make you VP quality.

She doesn't even understand the constitutional role of the VP. She has not foreign policy grasp. She has no economic grasp. What she has is down home charm for people who like that sort of thing. Beyond that she's barely qualified to run for governor of a state with a real economy and population. She's a joke and the entire world see her that way. And they do so for her self inflicted cluelessness on TV.

She is a new low for VP candidates. Which is pretty hard for the GOP given some of their past losers.

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tkoind2

First off have you ever been to Alaska? I have did a port call in a small town just like Wasilla called Seward. I was also lucky enough to be sent on what we called in the Navy TAD for three days while my ship stayed in Seward to go Fairbanks to help celebrate the Fourth of July with the local population there. It was awesome as the good people of Fairbanks don't get to see alot of U.S Sailors in there town. I was hosted to stay with a local family in Fairbanks and they took me in their bush plane up to the Artic circle.

I will tell you straight up the sheer vastness of the State would be challenge to any Governor of the lower 48. Just rudimentary infrastructure to support the remote Inuit populations and small towns in the desolate North would make a big population Governor job a easy by comparision. Not to mention ensuring basic medical care EMS services and law enforcement. Just making sure enough basic provisions were available during the State with the harshest winters (fuel, food, electrical grid) would be a challenge for a Governor of that state. Do you want me to go on about managing her Bering Sea fisheries? Ever watch Discovery channel about the crab season in Alaska? Let's top that also with the oil industry and all the regulation by the state they require and oversight to get the product to market? How about making sure all Alaska's kids get an education? The remoteness and distances involved in that? How about just being able to have a firm enough tax base to ensure schools are built in towns lake Barrow?

I guess your right having to be Chief exec of a state like Alaska doesn't qualify you to be V.P, it over-qualifies you in my opinion. I just mentioned a few of the reasons why above, I didn't even get to ensuring the entire population up there has access to our court system. That would also be one heck of a challenge for a Governor of Alaska and another one to minimize as less of a challenge then running Delaware.

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I almost forgot I do want to apologize for my many typos of late. I started a new job Oct 1st and they keep me pretty busy and I don't have as much time as I did in past to proof my posts before I send. I've become a type em fast poster now, that is when I get a few minutes to see what's going on in the world of J.T.

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"She doesn't even understand the constitutional role of the VP."

Of course she does.

"She has not foreign policy grasp."

That would be Obama.

"She has no economic grasp."

That would be Obama.

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Palin is as about as un-American as they come, not even separating church and state, --which are pillars of the American construct-- she should and needs to be the butt of jokes because she is both.

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Canadian-American SNL producer Lorne Michael's on Sarah Palin's SNL appearance.

"I think Palin will continue to be underestimated for a while. I watched the way she connected with people, and she's powerful. Her politics aren't my politics. But you can see that she's a very powerful, very disciplined, incredibly gracious woman. This was her first time out and she's had a huge impact.

"People connect to her. . . I think she could have her own show, yeah."

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Sarge,

I believe that you like the ideas that Palin espouses about foreign policy and the economy. So I could understand if you said that Palin knows what to do regarding the subjects she has talked about. However, to say that she has a grasp of these issues is stretching things.

To demonstrate grasp, Palin would have to demonstrate an actual ability to talk about these issues under adversarial grilling. The debate mercifully spared her from this and her two in depth interviews showed the shallowness of her knowledge. You may not agree with Obama, but he is the one who can speak in depth and he is the one with the grasp.

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