In 25th Amendment bid, Pelosi questions Trump's fitness to serve

questions swirl about the president's health

Because Trump and his White House have been so dishonest for so long, who knows what to believe.

Trump's most recent antics suggest he's mentally and emotionally unstable. He was reported to be taking a variety of medications prior to his hospitalization and now is reported to be taking even more. The side effects of some of the meds can produce odd behavior.

Way worrying especially when the suitcase follows him wherever he goes.

Trump is clinical insane, his psychology niece, gave clinical evidence of his insanity

It appears he's acting irrationally due to the virus. However, it's hard to tell for sure, as his baseline is already irrational, so there's not a great point for comparison.

Regardless, he's clearly not mentally fit for office anymore, and the 25th amendment must be invoked for the sake of the people of America.

In a stunning admission, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Thursday that he had stopped going to the White House two months ago because he disagreed with its coronavirus protocols. His last visit was Aug 6

Even the butt kissing Mitch can see the writing on the wall and is "socially and politically distancing himself from the now totally out of control president Trump.  Forget the 25th Amendment, the man needs to be forcibly sanctioned.

You not the only one Nancy.

He was insane when he took office. Now he’s a sociopath AND altered.

25th his miserable butt.

KentarogaijinToday  06:55 am JST

Trump is insane, his cabinet is insane, his trumpys are insane..

The insane followers are the biggest problem. Trump and his Cabinet are in power because that's what they voted for.

It's a bit late now, isn't it. His 40 year history of criminal fraud, creepy/weird personality and inability to fashion a coherent phrase should have disqualified him in the first place.

Because Trump and his White House have been so dishonest for so long, who knows what to believe.

As if people can believe anything coming out of Pelosi's mouth. Don't know what happened to this woman, but when I was a kid she was a decent politician and sadly those days are loooong gone.

Trump's most recent antics suggest he's mentally and emotionally unstable. He was reported to be taking a variety of medications prior to his hospitalization and now is reported to be taking even more. The side effects of some of the meds can produce odd behavior.

So this is the latest BS stunt liberals will UNSUCCESSFULLY try to do....again?

The insane followers are the biggest problem. Trump and his Cabinet are in power because that's what they voted for.

Yeah, we know Capitalism, freedom, lower taxes, self-reliance and small government is just such an insane thing to want.

So then it finally hits me: this latest attempt from Nancy is another one of her attempts to unconstitutionally remove Trump from the White House.

Unconstitutional? Really?

I’d have thought the headline was hint enough. Aren’t you all about letter of the law and protecting the amendments? They go higher than 2, all the way up to 27!

It’s in the rule book to do this, just as it is to appoint a Supreme Court judge so close to an election. You can’t have it both ways. Politics has been dirtied by the GOP, if others play the same game you’ll just have to suck it up.

Mr. NoidallToday  07:33 am JST

Then I ask myself, why now?

She thinks Trump is unfit for office right now. He's not exactly getting ringing endorsements from GOP legislators either. If enough of them start to think he's endangering their own re-election prospects in November they might be asking themselves a few questions.

bass4funkToday  08:08 am JST

The insane followers are the biggest problem. Trump and his Cabinet are in power because that's what they voted for.

Yeah, we know Capitalism, freedom, lower taxes, self-reliance and small government is just such an insane thing to want.

How about threatening to camp out on the White House lawn with their guns if they don't get the election result they want? Or spending all their time online venting about liberals and professing their love for Donald Trump?

She thinks Trump is unfit for office right now. He's not exactly getting ringing endorsements from GOP legislators either. 

Not from the swamp establishment, he never has and thank God for that, that's the last thing he should want and his supporters wouldn't want that.

If enough of them start to think he's endangering their own re-election prospects in November they might be asking themselves a few questions.

He doesn't need to, these Democrats are doing a bang up job of endangering their own political prospects.

How about threatening to camp out on the White House lawn with their guns if they don't get the election result they want?

Democrats promised more riots and some even talked about burning down the WH and congress should Trump win.

Or spending all their time online venting about liberals and professing their love for Donald Trump?

Or people internationally hating on Trump which won't change the outcome of the election.

Trump was a candidate for Article 25 long ago, the medicines have driven him over the edge.

Do we want such an unstable person holding the codes to a nuclear strike??

He will lose next month but has another 2 months before he gets kicked out of WH.

GOP: If you have any sense and think about the future join the democrats and get rid of this unstable person immediately!!!

Democrats need to rewrite all the Presidential rules, since they will control the Presidency for the next 50 years, thanks to Trump

and with a few edits to Mr. Noidall's generic prose.....

When Donald does these types of things it makes me think: isn’t he adamant that the Supreme Court nomination be held off until the new year? And doesn’t he say that’s because the American people ought to decide who decides who the next justice shall be? But then I think about all the scheming and plotting Donald has done these past several years to invalidate, delegitimize, and overturn the American Constitution. Then I ask myself, why now?, Donald, when there’s less than a month left for the American people to decide who’ll be the next president. A glaring contradiction strikes my retina: why, Donald, are you hellbent on the American people deciding the next Supreme Court justice but totally against the American people deciding who’ll be the next president in just a few weeks? Then I ask myself, what are Donald’s motives for this latest shenanigan? Is he trying to help me make an informed decision next month? I don’t think so. I mean, I look at his past behavior that shows he’s willing to stoop to unscrupulous methods to try and stay in the White House even though we has every right to prevent him from doing so. So then it finally hits me: this latest attempt from Donald is another one of his attempts to unconstitutionally seize more power. Finally, I say to myself, if Donald is willing to disrespect the constitution and abuse his power, even when he’s late in the 4th quarter of his first term, then it is he who is unfit for office and mentally unstable. He is the one who needs to be impeached. You probably have to go way back in time to find a worse and more corrupt person than Donald Trump. #impeachDonaldTrump

Pelosi is absolutely right. Trump 'fires back' his comments. His are completely straw man and argumentative words of juvenile nature. She suggests he needs to be transparent about his medical condition with COVID-19 exacerbating the need. He, like second grade bully, calls her crazy and says the infamous 'they' don't call her that for nothing. Obviously, he is actually the only one.

Trump constantly has used the 'they' and 'many people have said', but it's all 'I'. He's just too much a coward to say it. He's a name calling, lying unfortunate poorly developed human being who's a con man and many have gone all in on his con.

America can be so wrong, but will get him out of office after seeing just how wrong voting in Trump was. Talk about regret, the worst president ever voted in and they'll get rid of him after an excruciatingly bad four years of lies and distrust and mob government from the WH.

Biden will win in a landslide, and the lies and misinformation will thankfully be pulled back. I mean, who'd have thought we want to go back closer to the swamp Washington was, because the guy who said he'd clean the swamp and has made it a complete cesspool of lies and distrust. He can't even admit he's sick, when it's obvious he needs to. Another failure on the Trump caused COVID virus.

Not to be rude, but looking at that photo, Nancy’s in no position to be calling anybody crazy.

Of course you are rude and insulting by your insinuation.

It's a complete disconnect to equate her position in government to her appearance in a photo, but that's expected from Trump people who refuse to believe in critical thinking, so disconnects are a matter of their non fact.

Just as freedom of speech must be maintained, the constitution must be upheld by invoking the 25th amendment. The disease has clearly tipped trump beyond the point of rational human being, and he is no longer of the mental capacity to be able to run the officer. Not invoking article 25 is now treasonous to the people of America.

This is just a diversion about Trump.

she really wants to have this Permanent commission available for replacing Biden with Harris. But he won’t win so she can also use it for the next 4 years to harass Trump.

watch out Joe!

P. SmithToday  08:51 am JST

I have been out since the Moderators have repeatedly suspended me for calling out Bass's racism.*

According to the Mods I was impolite to users.

The Mods don't have any rules they must enforce or follow, so you’re fighting a losing battle.

A while ago there was a post from a moderator suggesting that readers take a break from posting comments on these topics, but there doesn't seem to have been any follow-up on that except for shutting comment threads.

Regardless of what you believe, this president has accomplished more for the country than democrats!

We aren’t Democrats. Most of us aren’t American.

People all around the world are questioning Trump's fitness to serve.

Why would Dems be doing this with an election in 3 weeks if it’s true that Biden is up by 16 points and will obviously win? Hint: it’s not true.

Regardless of what you believe, this president has accomplished more for the country than democrats! He is not a politician or statesman that everyone knows, but where is written you have to be such to hold office? Any American can run for president it’s not exclusive! There isn’t a saint in the world no one is 100% perfect or will be liked by all. The mere presences or voice or look of people will always upset someone, if you feel you’re so perfect, post a video of you walking on the ocean surface! Critiquing this individuals accomplishments which outweigh any democratic president’s feats in the 40 years is all you can do and cry because this president WILL be elected for a second termJ The American people who work hard are tired of the democrats giving their tax money Away to those who don’t deserve!

I disagree with this.

Cites? Didn’t think so.

So if Biden loses, BLM and Antifa will be silent? Yeah, you go and believe that....

Since all the other coup attempts failed, this is the next one to fail.

Why would Dems be doing this with an election in 3 weeks if it’s true that Biden is up by 16 points and will obviously win?

Because he's increasingly unhinged, and the continual refusal of him and his vice president to commit to a peaceful transfer of power, while the GOP works to suppress votes, Trump urges white nationalists to intimidate voters at the polls, while GOP Senator Mike Lee denounces democracy as a concept means that he and the GOP are an existential threat to our democracy.

But won’t he lose the election?

What happens if the American people choose to re-elect Trump? Still gonna remove him by 25th amendment anyway?

Trump's well documented slide into dementia was known even before he caught COVID...

Now they have him pumped up with so many drugs, he's gone completely mad...

And he still has access to the nuclear codes? Come on, get real....

If you saw his one hour off-the-rails interview on Fox last night, you be hiding the car keys, let alone the nuclear football...

 "(Biden) was raising his -- his very thin hand and he was fracking. And now all of a sudden he's not fracking."

"I'm back because I'm a perfect physical specimen and I'm extremely young. And so I'm lucky in that way."

"They want to hug me and they want to kiss me. And they do. And frankly, I'm not telling them to back up. I'm not doing it. But I did say it's like -- it's obviously dangerous. It's a dangerous thing I guess if you go by the Covid thing."

Pence is a hypocritical suck-up, but I'd at least trust him with not launching a nuclear war for the next 60 days until Biden is sworn in...

Do a transfer of power and put Donald to bed - ASAP....

But won’t he lose the election?

At the moment, it appears that he is going to lose the election.

The concern is that he will refuse to accept his defeat, and try to rally his followers to overthrow US democracy. A sitting GOP Senator has said that he doesn't value democracy.

What happens if the American people choose to re-elect Trump? Still gonna remove him by 25th amendment anyway?

If he becomes physically or mentally incapable of discharging the duties of his office, I would imagine so.

What happens if the American people choose to re-elect Trump? Still gonna remove him by 25th amendment anyway?

That's their plan, along with chaos.

What happens if the American people choose to re-elect Trump?

Even trump doesn’t believe that now, he’s chickening out of debates now.

The darkest period in America for close to a 100 years will end soon.

Trump will likely win the election and it won't be close. The American people do not want socialism and certainly do NOT want want Harris and the other Dems have done to California. After Trump wins, the Left should prepare for real pushback should they decide to riot again.

What happens if the American people choose to re-elect Trump? Still gonna remove him by 25th amendment anyway?

The American people ever elected Trump in the first place. Hillary was the choice of the people.

Whatever gives you the silly idea they’d suddenly choose him now after he’s shown himself to be incompetent?

He may steal the election, but unlike Obama twice and Hillary once, he’ll never be the choice of the people.

But it's going on 4 years too late to invoke the 25th for the 45th. Trump's deranged "American carnage" inauguration rant was a clear sign of bad things to come. At this late stage in the game it would be better to let Trump's self-destruction play out naturally lest he be given the excuse of mental incapacity as his get-out-of-jail free card to avoid criminal prosecution after being booted out of office next year.

Yeah Trump's been acting a little more crazed up recently.

then how is he President?

The American people ever elected Trump in the first place.

No - they support trump in order to destabilize America. I point out Trumps real-life incompetency, for America’s benefit. You guys are more birds of a feather than we are. You both love trump and worship Putin.

The hour-long phone in to Fox Business News alone was enough to get a normal person put on involuntary psych hold.

It was just an insane rant of disconnected lies.

yrral:

Trump is clinical insane

And clinically obese. The virus likes that. By the way, how is Christie doing? Trump has become a liability in a thousand ways. He's being compromised by the Russians and COVID. He kills in all senses of the word.

Because he's increasingly unhinged, and the continual refusal of him and his vice president to commit to a peaceful transfer of power,

You can make the exact same argument for the Biden team. Will they concede peacefully if they lose or will they be stubborn like last time and like Hillary said, never concede.

while the GOP works to suppress votes, Trump urges white nationalists to intimidate voters at the polls, while GOP Senator Mike Lee denounces democracy as a concept means that he and the GOP are an existential threat to our democracy

But Democrats harvesting votes is just ignored as usual, Democrats refuse to elaborate on their constant attempts to subvert the votes of Americans by cheating and this should never be allowed in a true democracy.

I question her ability to serve! It is so disgraceful what she did to the beautiful city of San Fransisco. She wants to do the same to the entire U.S. of A. Vote her out !!

You can make the exact same argument for the Biden team.

You can't.

Will they concede peacefully if they lose or will they be stubborn like last time and like Hillary said, never concede.

That's not what Clinton said.

But Democrats harvesting votes is just ignored as usual

Encouraging people to vote is good. Counting votes is how you determine who wins elections. That's what you mean when you say "harvesting".

Democrats refuse to elaborate on their constant attempts to subvert the votes of Americans by cheating and this should never be allowed in a true democracy.

Like Senator Mike Lee, what you mean is that the USA should be under one-party rule, and that the GOP's authority should be unquestionable.

I question her ability to serve! It is so disgraceful what she did to the beautiful city of San Fransisco. She wants to do the same to the entire U.S. of A. Vote her out !!

Vote her out? How are you going to do that?

I’ll give you a start. Keep hope alive!

Tell them to use a spell checker though, it doesn’t help the cause by seeming illiterate. It’s excusable in a message board, but if this is your great hope proofread it first eh.

https://www.change.org/p/the-american-people-remove-nancy-pelosi-as-speaker-of-the-house

Crying "wolf" all the time, will eventually bite you back.

trump has been "BITTEN"

"Joe Biden should not concede under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES". Direct quote.

That's not what Clinton said.

no we mean one person showing up with the ballots of 100 other people from nursing homes or blocks of apartment buildings in their hand.

Or someone having a trunk full of ballots they "find" 3 days after everyone has voted in person and the "wrong" team is winning.

Ballot harvesting.

Pelosi is a bitter and failed politician that is destroying America one attack after another. As if she is relevant to ever making the world a safer or better place to live. Living a life of hate does no one any good...

If anyone looks unhealthy it'd be her. Go Trump!

The only good news these days is that officials in his own government and party seem to ignore him.

He’s obviously altered. This is probably like when Nixon wandered the halls drunk at night and his Chief if Staff told the Joint Chiefs “Don’t carry out any orders without checking with me first.”

He's going to lose in a landslide and take a fair portion of the GOP Senate with him.

BlacklabelToday  10:09 am JST

What happens if the American people choose to re-elect Trump? Still gonna remove him by 25th amendment anyway?

If he is clearly proven to be unfit for office, what do you think? He could of course prove he's competent by submitting to completely impartial physical and mental health checks. Do you think he would do that?

BlacklabelToday  10:25 am JST

then how is he President?

"The American people ever elected Trump in the first place."

Check out what Mike Lee said if you really don't know.

Black:. Or someone having a trunk full of ballots they "find" 3 days after everyone has voted in person and the "wrong" team is winning.

How does that work?

Maybe Trump needs an advisor that constantly whispers in his ear "memento mori", or "remember you are mortal".

The latest troubling reports coming out in the media indicating Trump has been bugging Barr to indict Biden and lock up all the president's political opponents should serve as a wake up call reminding us exactly why the 25th was devised, but the Dems should hold off and shouldn't give in to temptation as removal from office would let Trump off too lightly.

Btw, love Pelosi's orange outfit with her accessory "origins" mask. Now that's called "sending a message"!

You can't.

Yes, you can, Biden should be held to the fire just as you guys whole Trump and Biden and Harris should denounce all the antics of BLM and antifa, they haven’t and they won’t just like with packing the courts.

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That's not what Clinton said.

She sure did and the exact quote was: Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances.” - Hillary Clinton

Encouraging people to vote is good. Counting votes is how you determine who wins elections. That's what you mean when you say "harvesting".

Sadly no, more like:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/10/08/carrollton-mayoral-candidate-zul-mirza-mohamed-arrested-voter-fraud/amp/

Like Senator Mike Lee, what you mean is that the USA should be under one-party rule, and that the GOP's authority should be unquestionable.

Hey, Democrats are the ones that complain about the courts and wanting to pack them and they are the ones that want to get rid of the filibuster. I don’t like Democrats, but I think we should never have a one party rule. I’m not hearing the Democrats saying that they are totally against it, except for Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

Bass:. Biden and Harris should denounce all the antics of BLM and Antifa

We've printed the Biden quote condemning Anita at least a half dozen times. We can't help you any more than that.

Ad besides, no one is condemning BLM as they are a peaceful protest. People are actively promoting the movement from corporate America to sports leagues.

We've printed the Biden quote condemning Anita at least a half dozen times.

And Trump denounced racists numerous times, so I guess everyone can chill now. So it’s settled now.

Ad besides, no one is condemning BLM as they are a peaceful protest.

We keep seeing all of the crazy videos how vio...I mean...ahem peaceful they are...lol

People are actively promoting the movement from corporate America to sports leagues

And their ratings continue to tank...

And their ratings continue to tank...

Corporate America has ratings and they are in the tank? Heck, I was playing Call of Duty and they had a BLM stamp on the screen for a month.

Whatever the possible steps she thinks she might be able to take, watching her performance on TV leaves me in little doubt that she is unhinged.  Her manner and the content of what she said is bizarre.......

2018; Ah, you haven’t heard the latest election news? A couple of boxes in the trunk of an Avis rental vehicle contained voter ballots in Broward County, Florida. Provisional voter ballots.

https://apnews.com/article/b8afb683f56d2a1ab3aa92a5a20ffe40

2008:

After working a protracted recount and a legal battle over disputed absentee ballots and ballots said to be counted twice, he was abruptly declared the “winner” by 312 votes. A box of Democratic ballots helpfully turned up in the trunk of a car.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/15/editorial-ballot-box-wizardry/

Corporate America has ratings and they are in the tank? Heck, I was playing Call of Duty and they had a BLM stamp on the screen for a month.

Kids games, so I'm not surprised the appeal marketing to the liberal masses