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Pelosi over his shoulder: Trump faces empowered Dems at State of the Union

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Oh yeah Dems are “empowered” all right. Bringing ridiculous guests to the speech and the blackface KKK Governor can’t quit because his replacement is caught up in #metoo.

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I think it’ll be a good thing and it will be a chance for the country to see how childish, petty and crazy Democrats are. The country should see that Dems can’t govern and the circus that will come will be a sign of it.

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I think it’ll be a good thing and it will be a chance for the country to see how childish, petty and crazy Democrats are. The country should see that Dems can’t govern and the circus that will come will be a sign of it.

Heh, the Republicans are in power -, and yet they are whining about the Democrats not governing. Talk about delusion.

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Oh yeah Dems are “empowered” all right. Bringing ridiculous guests to the speech and the blackface KKK Governor can’t quit because his replacement is caught up in #metoo.

Though I agree he should resign, I don't think the actions of a drunk uni student are quite as offensive as the sober 69 year old republican Steve King who believes selective genetic breeding and the phrases "white supremacy" etc aren't racist...

I think it’ll be a good thing and it will be a chance for the country to see how childish, petty and crazy Democrats are. The country should see that Dems can’t govern and the circus that will come will be a sign of it.

It might be a chance for the country to see how poorly Trump governs the nation as he feeds us the same scripted story he has been for nearly 2 months...not sure it will even be worth watching. We're going to be back to a shutdown because dems and the GOP can't find a suitable solution to please Trump (not the American people). That or Trump will try to declare a "national emergency", in which the dems will probably hit it with a bunch of lawsuits...the circus is not a one party show, it involves both. But for some reason you're still stuck on your honeymoon with Trump...

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Pelosi over his shoulder

Ha ha ha. Reminds me of when the man-child was creeping around, over Clinton's shoulder in one of their debates.

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Though I agree he should resign,

Trump - right?  Of course Northam too....

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Trump - right? Of course Northam too....

Yea, Northam. And Trump too while we're at it.

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Maybe he will turn the SOTU into an explanation for cheating the elections. The NY times just posted:

Trump Inaugural Committee Ordered to Hand Over Documents to Federal Investigators

I guess on top of using Russian trolls to rig the election, prosecutors are now looking into illegal donations from foreign entities through "straw donors". Interesting.

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Though I agree he should resign, I don't think the actions of a drunk uni student are quite as offensive as the sober 69 year old republican Steve King who believes selective genetic breeding and the phrases "white supremacy" etc aren't racist...

Being drunk and saying something stupid is not the same as posing in a photo with deliberate black shoe polish on your face standing next to a person wearing a Klan outfit.

It might be a chance for the country to see how poorly Trump governs the nation as he feeds us the same scripted story he has been for nearly 2 months...

If the media wouldn’t lie and pound on him for every breath he takes and every move he makes, he could govern a lot better.

.not sure it will even be worth watching. We're going to be back to a shutdown because dems and the GOP can't find a suitable solution to please Trump (not the American people).

He’s not supposed to appease people that live in the States that have Zero idea about border security, they don’t have to live with it. Who cares what someone in Maine thinks? They don’t have to deal with the influx of illegals coming their way or the cartels or drugs?

That or Trump will try to declare a "national emergency", in which the dems will probably hit it with a bunch of lawsuits...the circus is not a one party show, it involves both. But for some reason you're still stuck on your honeymoon with Trump...

Hope he does and the Dems They can try to stop him and Trump his lawyers and the GOP will do the exact same thing to the Dems.

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Maybe he will turn the SOTU into an explanation for cheating the elections. The NY times just posted:

Will the Democrats admit to cheating this time? I’m waiting to see their rebuttal.

I guess on top of using Russian trolls to rig the election, prosecutors are now looking into illegal donations from foreign entities through "straw donors". Interesting.

Ok, so Trump has the Russians and the Democrats have the media and the FBI, let’s be fair, both need to cut it out!

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Ladies and Gentlemen, The President of the Unites States, Donald Trump...

My fellow Americans, and Russians too - I like Russians...

Everything is great, except one thing, I ain't got no wall - why can't I get a wall - been President for two years and still no wall...what is it with this wall?

If Nancy and Chuck don't give me my wall, I'll close the government again, and all of you will feel the pain.... Me? I'll be in Mar-A Lago getting served breakfast by illegal immigrants...

And this Russian thing - it's all a witchhunt. Just because my campaign manager was colluding and sending campaign info to a Russian oligarch who he owed millions to, the Deputy campaign mamanger was doing the same thing, the National Security Advisor was secretly meeting with Russians, my national security policy advisor was meeting with Russians, my personal attorney and fixer was meeting with Russians, and my son and son-in-law were meeting with Russians in Trump Tower....so what? Where's the smoke? Let's move on - nothing here.

But Hillary and her e-mails, Bengahzi, Uranium One (or was it two), the faked moon landing in 1969 - those are real crimes that need investigated.

And is it true Ann Coulter called me a lunatic? Well, that's OK, can't get sideways with her base...

And the state of the Union is...., wait, I have to call Vlad and ask....

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Being drunk and saying something stupid is not the same as posing in a photo with deliberate black shoe polish on your face standing next to a person wearing a Klan outfit.

So you don't condemn Steve King? So you think it's ok to be racist, but only if you are a republican?

If the media wouldn’t lie and pound on him for every breath he takes and every move he makes, he could govern a lot better.

Maybe if Trump lied less, the media wouldn't hound him as much, and he could govern better.

Who cares what someone in Maine thinks? They don’t have to deal with the influx of illegals coming their way or the cartels or drugs?

Then they should only tax the people living in states on the border to build the wall. Then they should vote and let the governors and senators of these states only have a say. Good thing you aren't president, the country would the worst place in the world.

Hope he does and the Dems They can try to stop him and Trump his lawyers and the GOP will do the exact same thing to the Dems.

And back to a stalemate, where nothing gets done for 2 years because of Trump's wall.

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Remember that time, in 2016, when Trump claimed the election was rigged?

I guess he was speaking from a point of authority.

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Ok, so Trump has the Russians and the Democrats have the media and the FBI, let’s be fair, both need to cut it out!

That's weird, you said 'lets be fair' in the middle of a post that was all hyper-partisan.

You're sending mixed signals here.

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"Let's not be well-behaved ever,"

"That's right," the congresswoman responds.

Bad strategy. The majority of Democrats don't go for this. The party should demonstrate constructive toughness without being rude and obnoxious. Trump dragged the GOP deeper into the mud. Democrats shouldn't let AOC do the same to their party.

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Bass: Who cares what someone in Maine thinks? They don’t have to deal with the influx of illegals coming their way or the cartels or drugs?

Every member of the House, both red and blue, that are on the border are against the wall. And they ran in the recent election by campaigning against it.

In Arizona we elected a Senator who was against the wall. And a Democrat. The Senators from New Mexico and California are against it and the two clowns in Texas were against it before they were for it.

You’re from Orange County where it’s now all blue, so you are actually the outlier. Maybe you’ve been away for too long to really understand what it’s like nowadays.

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Plasticmonkey: The party should demonstrate constructive toughness without being rude and obnoxious.

Agreed. The Dems always seem to find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

I like the idea of increasing spending on border security without the wall. We flip the script, take the lead on security, and leave Trump without a wall.

Then he can tell his base he succeeded in securing the border (who cares about a wall?} and everyone wins.

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So you don't condemn Steve King? So you think it's ok to be racist, but only if you are a republican?

I never said that.

Maybe if Trump lied less, the media wouldn't hound him as much, and he could govern better.

Maybe if CNN would try and be honest and tell the news honestly and truthfully they would be considered a credible news source and even beating FNC on a daily basis.

Then they should only tax the people living in states on the border to build the wall. Then they should vote and let the governors and senators of these states only have a say. Good thing you aren't president, the country would the worst place in the world.

But liberals didn’t have a problem with it back in 2013 when the liberals desperately wanted border security, which surprised me back then, but as with all Democrats and as Northam flip when they need to, but always get caught flopping around.

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Maybe if CNN would try and be honest

Ann Coulter said Trump is a WIMP. She is not CNN. Is Ann Coulter "honest"?

blackface KKK Governor

Once he resigns it's over. Trump hates Mexicans. But if he's gone then we have a racist Jesus freak.

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Agreed. The Dems always seem to find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

They said that 2 years ago about the GOP as well. Lol

I like the idea of increasing spending on border security without the wall. We flip the script, take the lead on security, and leave Trump without a wall. 

Good luck with that, helps the GOP in 2020

Then he can tell his base he succeeded in securing the border (who cares about a wall?} and everyone wins.

The Problem with Dems why they always lose in the end is because they always overestimate themselves and underestimate everyone else. Smh....

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they always overestimate themselves

Ann Coulter has confirmed that Trump overestimates himself by calling him a wimp. Also, there is a leaked schedule that confirms that Trump is lazy with all his "executive time"

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So SOTU is upon us. Finally going to happen. I do not have much to say on it really other than. I hope the politicians can start to work together and that Trump can speak without repeating himself and has a decent speech ready to go. The first time I hear talk of a wall and how great the wall is going to be. I am done.

How the Democrats react inside the chamber to Trump's address will be watched closely. Leaders are advising a respectful approach, for reasons of decorum but also strategy. Pelosi has in the past cautioned Democrats to stay out of the way of Trump's "slobbering self."

This is slightly disturbing. Did she actually say “slobbering self?” God I really despise Nancy even more if she said this.

I could say Democrats please behave yourselves. But the same rings true for Republicans and guests attending. Well, hopefully we will get a chance to see some sort functioning progress coming together here with both parties starting some dialog. But let's face it. Someone is going to lose it and yell out something. Then everything will just go south. Just my feeling.

Could be the biggest flop and embarrassment ever in the history of the State of the Union addressees. Cause the current state of the union is, there is nothing in unison or any unification what so ever.

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Trump is running out of time. He can’t close the government again, and he can’t get his wall.

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Trump is running out of time. He can’t close the government again, and he can’t get his wall.

Well, from a political position, he shouldn't. But he can do both. It's just that if he does, he hands a major win to Democrats. But he's also in the position where if he doesn't, he also hands a major win to the Democrats.

And his people think he's smart. A smart leader doesn't paint themselves into a corner.

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Part of me wonders if Schumer and Pelosi knew Trump would take ownership in front of the cameras and played him like a fiddle.

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I never said that.

No, but you dismissed it like it didn't matter and went straight for the democrat.

The Problem with Dems why they always lose in the end is because they always overestimate themselves and underestimate everyone else. Smh....

Hmmm, wait...Sounds like what you and the GOP are doing now.

but as with all Democrats and as Northam flip when they need to, but always get caught flopping around

Ill leave you out of this one, because you flop around a lot, but this is a poor defense. It's what politicians do. Lets look at Trump just last week! First, he believes his intelligence is great, then says they need to go back to school, then that they are right, but they are still wrong. That's a lot of "flopping around", don't you think? How about Trump on the shutdown too, hmmm? He owned it on public tv, as HIS SHUTDOWN, while pence sat behind him shi**ing his pants. After a briefing with their PR people, it turned into a "Blame it on the libs!" campaign. Nice "flopping around", the greatest, the best, ever. Period.

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Our 'Buck stops everywhere' leader will try to blame everyone for all the problems of his own creation.

He will whine and whimper with the look of a toddler waiting for a spanking.

Will be fun to watch.

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Trump is running out of time. He can’t close the government again, and he can’t get his wall.

Au contraire! It's the Dems who are running out of time. The wall is going to be built one way or another. If Trump ends up having to have to call a national emergency the Dems will dearly pay for this in 2020.

He will whine and whimper with the look of a toddler waiting for a spanking. Will be fun to watch.

No, but Nancy will be sitting there licking her dentures. Will be fun to watch.

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No, but Nancy will be sitting there licking her dentures. Will be fun to watch.

Given how much negative publicity Trump continues to get, even from his fellow ultra-rightists like Coulter, even some at Fox'news', during the SOTU he can't afford to be over-Adderall-ed and have his dentures go wonky again. Hopefully Trump's handlers will hide his Adderall before the speech. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFYuJChcc4o

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Trump is running out of time. He can’t close the government again, and he can’t get his wall.

And the Dems won’t get any legislation through either, no radical socialism plans for this radical bunch.

Part of me wonders if Schumer and Pelosi knew Trump would take ownership in front of the cameras and played him like a fiddle

I guess McConnell is playing the Dems like Bernstein Orchestra.

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I guess McConnell is playing the Dems like Bernstein Orchestra.

What? Run that through your translator again.

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Hmmm, wait...Sounds like what you and the GOP are doing now.

And what the Dems have been trying to do for the last 2 years.

Ill leave you out of this one, because you flop around a lot, but this is a poor defense.

Not at all.

*It's what politicians do. Lets look at Trump just last week! First, he believes his intelligence is great, then says they need to go back to school, then that they are right, but they are still wrong. That's a lot of "flopping around", don't you think? How about Trump on the shutdown too, hmmm? He owned it on public tv, as HIS SHUTDOWN, while pence sat behind him shi*ing his pants. After a briefing with their PR people, it turned into a "Blame it on the libs!" campaign. Nice "flopping around", the greatest, the best, ever. Period.

Sure Trump owned it, he’s the President, but the Dems could have proved for once they could have shown that they were for border security once again as they were back in 2013, they didn’t and as a result Pelosi slipped about seven points, so the anger towards her is also going for not being as cooperative. Remember, anger goes both ways, I know liberals don’t get that, but it does.

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Given how much negative publicity Trump continues to get, even from his fellow ultra-rightists like Coulter, even some at Fox'news', during the SOTU he can't afford to be over-Adderall-ed and have his dentures go wonky again. Hopefully Trump's handlers will hide his Adderall before the speech. 

Funny, I look forward to Trump trying to shame the Democrats once again into being weak on basically.....everything, but I don’t think you have to do much, when you see that the socialist want to tax people into oblivion of over 70%, wide open borders, want infanticide, a complete socialist overhaul healthcare system, people will see not only are Democrats out of touch and roaming the Unicornverse and seeing little green men, but they’re showing them as a party that is beyond radical or redemption.

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If Trump ends up having to have to call a national emergency the Dems will dearly pay for this in 2020.

Literally nothing points towards that as being a logical conclusion. The people don't want the wall. Why would they ever pay dearly for opposing something the people have been clear they want them to oppose?

Republogic.

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And the Dems won’t get any legislation through either, no radical socialism plans for this radical bunch.

Unless Trumpy declares a national emergency - then with the next Democratic president, America gets socialized health care and gun control!

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Trump will probably claim

The wall is not being built due ti Democrats not giving him money.

The wall is being built and Mexico has paid the money.

The wall's already built.

Then he'll threaten another shutdown or declare an emergency!!

Feel sorry for him at times, trying to keep Pelosi and Coulter happy sure is difficult.

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Literally nothing points towards that as being a logical conclusion.

Because liberals don’t accept it? I get it.

The people don't want the wall. Why would they ever pay dearly for opposing something the people have been clear they want them to oppose?

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/350217-americans-support-a-border-wall-more-than-the-media-wants-to-believe

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration/usbp-sw-border-apprehensions

In Fiscal Year 2017, CBP averaged 13,210 family units and unaccompanied alien children each month – in Fiscal Year 2019 CBP is now averaging 31,188 a month. That is a 136% increase.

Again, the people that live on the border are the ones that matter it in people that live for 230 miles away but don’t have any idea about the wall or about what’s going on along the San Diego border.

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Ladies and Gentlemen, the President of the United States, Donald Trump...

"My fellow Americans, and Ann Coulter,.....it's me, "The Donald"....and don't call me a lunatic...

I am pround to tell you that overcoming unbearable odds, we have erected a WALL on the southern border...

Yes, it is an impenetrable wall of 1000 traffic cones strung together with duct tape...built with Trump care and quality...

And I want to emphasize, it came in under cost - because we were able to use some of the illegal immigrant labor employed at Mar-A-Lago and at my Golf Courses...those folks work hard for peanuts...

So the State of the Union is great - and that news today about a subpoena being issued for scores of documents from my inaugural committee - just another witch hunt!

Geez, there are so many witches, I must live in the Land of Oz..."

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Here's an excerpt from the real Lincoln's SOTU address:

"In giving freedom to the slave, we ensure freedom to the free–honorable alike in what we give, and what we preserve. We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last, best hope of earth.”

That is haunting, considering we now have like 15 candidates for president of the United States calling for socialism.

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The big question is will Stacey Abrams avoid the State of the Union response jinx?

She's a good talker but you never know. Little Marco's water break was funny, hehe

https://qz.com/1541928/why-is-stacey-abrams-giving-the-sotu-response-for-the-democrats/

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So he plans to use a family who lost someone to an illegal alien and is going to talk about how great of a job he has done according to huckleberry sandbags... I cannot wait to watch the puke inducing nightmare:-/

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No one was “lost” they were murdered by an illegal alien.

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No one was “lost” they were murdered by an illegal alien.

however you wish to spell it out but let’s not kid ourselves that trump is not just using it for furthering his wall or walls or whatever ever term he uses.

and are we to cast the same shadow on ALL people who entered the US illegally or “undocumented “?

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So he plans to use a family who lost someone to an illegal alien and is going to talk about how great of a job he has done according to huckleberry sandbags... I cannot wait to watch the puke inducing nightmare:-/

But you don’t have a problem with the Democrats doing to opposite to the President?

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and are we to cast the same shadow on ALL people who entered the US illegally or “undocumented “?

The way I was raised, the law is the law and if you break, you suffer the consequences, I figured that out in 3rd grade.

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Yep. So why are the Dems bringing illegals with forged documents who were rightly fired when discovered? And some women who yelled at Jeff flake in an elevator. He works for CBS now.

Yes, ALL lawbreakers should be treated equally.

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The way I was raised, the law is the law and if you break, you suffer the consequences, I figured that out in 3rd grade.

Yes, ALL lawbreakers should be treated equally.

Dang straight - hold all them dastardly lawbreakers accountable....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2018/12/06/president-trump-uses-undocumented-immigrant-labor-is-anyone-surprised/

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/06/politics/trump-bedminster-club-undocumented-workers/index.html

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Yes, ALL lawbreakers should be treated equally.

Says the guy who excuses Trump hiring illegals at his golf courses.

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He also FIRES them when he finds out their documents are forged. That’s what you mad about.

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“The Times noted there is no evidence that Trump or Trump Organization executives knew of the two women's immigration status.”

try again.

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Give us Mandatory e-verify to prevent any illegals with forged documents from ever being hired again. Oh what’s that sound? Silence......

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He also FIRES them when he finds out their documents are forged. That’s what you mad about.

Yea, after they're exposed...they'd still be turning down his bed if the media hadn't found out and reported it...

The Times noted there is no evidence that Trump or Trump Organization executives knew of the two women's immigration status.”

Hey Donald, the cleaning lady that makes your bed, the server that brings you your Big Macs, and the cashier at the golf course, you know the ones that all speak Spanish - no way they could be illegal, could they...

Give us Mandatory e-verify to prevent any illegals with forged documents from ever being hired again. Oh what’s that sound? Silence......

You know, like all the illegals employed at Trump properties...

Now we know why Trump didn't fund or build his wall for two years - he was saving too much money hiring illegals, and stiffing American workers.

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Trump has always hired illegals. Just look at the construction of Trump Tower.

To be fair he doesn’t always do it illegally, at his resorts he legally imports cheaper foreign workers and sends his manufacturing to the Chinese who are killing us on the trade deficit. Theres nothing illegal about doing that.

In fact, his fans would probably tell us that Trump is a smart man for hiring cheaper foreigners over Americans and it doesn’t dent their support for him one bit,

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Yea, after they're exposed...they'd still be turning down his bed if the media hadn't found out and reported it

Ok and? So Trump with businesses everywhere and even as President he has to know if his staff accidentally employed a few illegals? Lol

Hey Donald, the cleaning lady that makes your bed, the server that brings you your Big Macs, and the cashier at the golf course, you know the ones that all speak Spanish - no way they could be illegal, could they...

Hmmm.....if only liberals would worry about the border than Trump’s staff accidentally hiring a few illegals we would be way ahead of this game and could have real secure borders.

Now we know why Trump didn't fund or build his wall for two years - he was saving too much money hiring illegals, and stiffing American workers.

Dear lord....I’ll say this, liberals make some of the best SF movies without a doubt. Lol

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Yea, after they're exposed...they'd still be turning down his bed if the media hadn't found out and reported it

Ok and? So Trump with businesses everywhere and even as President he has to know if his staff accidentally employed a few illegals? Lol

Hey Donald, the cleaning lady that makes your bed, the server that brings you your Big Macs, and the cashier at the golf course, you know the ones that all speak Spanish - no way they could be illegal, could they...

Hmmm.....if only liberals would worry about the border than Trump’s staff accidentally hiring a few illegals we would be way ahead of this game and could have real secure borders.

Now we know why Trump didn't fund or build his wall for two years - he was saving too much money hiring illegals, and stiffing American workers.

Dear lord....I’ll say this, liberals make some of the best SF movies without a doubt. Lol

The sound you hear is the explosions inside Trumpers brains as they try to rationalize their Dear Leader's fixation for a wall to keep out illegals with the fact that he employed them at his properties...

All those poor folks in the caravans, they were just trying to join their relatives working at Mar-A-Lago....

Trump - The Great Orange Hypocrite...along with his followers...

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Liberals act like Trunp himself does all these mundane tasks like hiring a housekeeper at his hotel. The people who got fired all admit having submitting fake documents.

But let’s not hold them accountable at all, right?

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When it comes to employing illegals, Trumpers say....

The way I was raised, the law is the law and if you break, you suffer the consequences, I figured that out in 3rd grade.

Yes, ALL lawbreakers should be treated equally.

But when it's Trump breaking the law, employing illegals at his properties, that ""ALL" quickly changes to;

Ok and? So Trump with businesses everywhere and even as President he has to know if his staff accidentally employed a few illegals? Lol

OK Trumpers, which is it - if you break the law you suffer the consequences, and that includes "ALL" lawbreakers, or do you take that back and give Trump a pass for his hiring illegals? Can't be both...

Tell us which one of your statements above is what you really believe...

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The sound you hear is the explosions inside Trumpers brains as they try to rationalize their Dear Leader's fixation for a wall to keep out illegals with the fact that he employed them at his properties...

That actually has nothing to do with anything, they are two separate issues. Since the Democrats don’t care about border security, you should be happy that the president does, even if there was a mistake made that he had illegals, but I think it only liberals can make mistakes. Feinstein had an illegal chauffeur who was a spy, why so quiet?

All those poor folks in the caravans, they were just trying to join their relatives working at Mar-A-Lago....

All 5000 of them?

Liberals, one day y’all will get it together....eventually.

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That's the key....become so rich that you can claim you don't know how anything operates under you. The buck stops....before it reaches the boss.

Now if you were a Mom and Pop doing this they'd have the book thrown at them.

The fact is Trump fans voted for a man who hires illegals, imports foreign workers, ships manufacturing jobs overseas, and used chain migration to bring in his wife's family.

And these things don't dent their support for Trump one bit.

Hypocrites.

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@bass4

nothiing will ever change your mind about your dear senile incompetent leader so I am not even going to waste anymore keystrokes.

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That's the key....become so rich that you can claim you don't know how anything operates under you. The buck stops....before it reaches the boss.

Ask Schultz, Gates or even Zuckenberg, they would all tell you the same.

Now if you were a Mom and Pop doing this they'd have the book thrown at them.

Probably, smaller store, smaller clientele, smaller overhead....

The fact is Trump fans voted for a man who hires illegals, imports foreign workers, ships manufacturing jobs overseas, and used chain migration to bring in his wife's family.

Yes, we voted for him and I don’t blame him at all for it, because as a big businessman as he is in as many others this kind of thing can happen and especially since the Democrats don’t care about fixing our broken immigration laws, we will continue to have these problems, they don’t want a census, they don’t want the police or ICE to apprehend or ask these illegals any question, we don’t even know the exact numbers of how many illegals live in the coastal States. So the Democrats are the last people to say anything, they put illegals before their own citizens, the advocate for open borders, no end to chain migration or the visa lottery program, they offer illegals drivers licenses, allow them to vote in certain elections! Maybe if they cared about these serious issues instead of being apart of the problem and do nothing at all about it.

Pathetic.

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It is always about the economy and

“Our economy is growing at its fastest pace in nearly four years. Unemployment is at an all-time low.”

The 2nd statement isn't correct. Unemployment is very near all-time lows, but in 1968-1969, it was 0.1% lower than the numbers for December '18 showed.

Did the Dems help the economy the last 2 yrs? They should get credit for the first 6 months of the Trump Presidency.

And these things don't dent their support for Trump one bit.

If they played by the rules, I don't have any negative feelings about it. Being mad about the rules is only useful for getting them changed.

Anyone, ANYONE, hiring people illegally inside the USA needs to be held accountable. President or Bob's UK Fish Shack or Poultry processing plants or ranches in the mid-west or anyone having domestic service, lawn service, roof service ... doesn't matter. Turn them in, send in ICE. Deportation to follow. Doesn't matter where they are from. If they didn't already file for asylum, out. Canada, Mexico, Europe, China, India, Japan, Germany, Caribbean, Saudi Arabia, Australia, illegal is illegal. Working in the USA illegally needs to stop.

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nothiing will ever change your mind about your dear senile incompetent leader so I am not even going to waste anymore keystrokes.

Exactly, and I cant seem to change your mind either in supporting the socialist Democrats it would seem.

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Bass:. Yes, we voted for him and I don’t blame him at all for it.

So you voting for a man who hires illegals, imports foreign workers, ships manufacturing jobs overseas, and used chain migration to bring in his wife's family.

I guess those aren't really important issues for you.

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So you voting for a man who hires illegals, imports foreign workers, ships manufacturing jobs overseas, and used chain migration to bring in his wife's family.

And you vote for a party who’s policies have and continue to be racist and destroy lives of minorities, supporting open borders, infanticide, socialism, allowing illegals to work, drive, vote as well as sanctuary cities.

I guess those aren't really important issues for you

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Well, well, thousands of migrants are now massing on the Texas border where we still don't have a decent wall thanks to the Democrats and RINOS. Fortunately the president has ordered thousands of troops to the border to help our border patrol.

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Grow up.

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Says the guy who excuses Trump hiring illegals at his golf courses.

Heh, he went and proved my point literally in the next post:

He also FIRES them when he finds out their documents are forged.

Illegals are evil unless the big Don hires them apparently.

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its an invalid argument as trump doesn’t hire them. and they have forged documents appearing to be legal. when found, they are fired. That’s the best that can be done. If we had a wall, would be less illegals physically in the USA so less chance to hire someone with fake documents.

You conveniently don’t care that this is a crime both being illegal and faking documents. Nothing your precious illegals do is even wrong, much less a crime, evidently.

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When it comes to employing illegals, Trumpers say....

The way I was raised, the law is the law and if you break, you suffer the consequences, I figured that out in 3rd grade.

Yes, ALL lawbreakers should be treated equally.

But when it's Trump breaking the law, employing illegals at his properties, that ""ALL" quickly changes to;

Ok and? So Trump with businesses everywhere and even as President he has to know if his staff accidentally employed a few illegals? Lol

OK Trumpers, which is it - if you break the law you suffer the consequences, and that includes "ALL" lawbreakers, or do you take that back and give Trump a pass for his hiring illegals? Can't be both...

Tell us which one of your statements above is what you really believe...

And we get more explosions and back-tracking - it's clear for everyone to see - in their own words, Trumpers here say "you break the law, you suffer the consequences" - and that should apply to "ALL" lawbreakers - but when presented with the fact that Trump broke the law hiring illegal immigrants at his properties, that changes to "well, he didn't know about it"....

Thanks for allowing everyone to see your hypocrisy on full display....

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The country should see that Dems can’t govern and the circus that will come will be a sign of it.

calling Dems a circus, when you've got Trump the ringmaster and his Republican clowns all waddling in unison after him. LOL good one.

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but when presented with the fact that Trump broke the law hiring illegal immigrants at his properties, that changes to "well, he didn't know about it"....

Can you prove he knew about it? If so, please present evidence and I’ll give an apology.

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Trump is at the moment hitting it out of the park.

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