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Pence's approach to troubles in White House: He wasn't there

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I don't know why some people would prefer Pence to Trump. I will choose Trump rather because at least for him, sometimes he doesn't know. Pence knows everything that's wrong with this administration and he pretend to be the wholly one. The way he lies with straight face, I can't stomach it. Pretending to be ignorant is worse

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Only thing halfway memorable about this guy is lame protests like walking out of NFL games before they start, getting lectured about democracy by Broadway actors as he walks out, etc. If his default reaction is always to walk away from entertainment, what's he doing still shadowing the comedian in the White House? And if the U.S. had a woman president, secretary of state/defense, etc. would he refuse a private meeting with her no matter how serious? His inability to trust himself to be professional around women sounds like a liability.

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Oh no, it’s not himself he doesn’t trust. Very smart man to never, ever been in a room with a woman and even smarter to make that public knowledge.

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I don't know why some people would prefer Pence to Trump

Before Trump, GOP presidential debates were about who can prove they love Jesus and firearms the most and hate science and taxes the most. Pence certainly falls into that predictable category. Trump turned this crackpot freak show into a circus of knob-jokes and puerile nicknames because he didn’t have much of a clue about anything being discussed. He actually managed the impossible and lowered the tone. Pence is a religious yokel but he seems to be an adult, doesn’t stink the place up with stupid trash and doesn’t seem to have Trump’s hair-trigger temper.

The world would be a safer place with Pence in control.

What a party the GOP is. If the trash-mouthed, potty-throwing man-child is booted out, he will be replaced by someone with beliefs that would make the Taliban laugh. Dear me.

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Yeah you would think Dems would realize all that and be happy with what you got. But most of your group is so delusional that they think if Trump goes that Hillary or Bernie are next in line. Breaking news: they aren’t.

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no one here, liberals in general don’t seem to realize there are 17 people in the line of succession after Trump and none of them are Dems or named Hillary or Bernie.

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"liberals in general"--so not a real person, just some more fake news. Thanks for candidly clearing that up.

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liberals in general don’t seem to realize there are 17 people in the line of succession after Trump and none of them are Dems or named Hillary or Bernie.

Just as a matter of interest, do you think Trump supporters are more politically aware than others?

His rallies seem to indicate otherwise. They make whooping noises and think Mexico will pay for the wall.

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Well one thing we know is Hillary will never be President.

Why cant liberals accept that? That one fact is the cause of 99% of the #resistance nonsense that is going on right now.

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"liberals in general"--so not a real person, just some more fake news. Thanks for candidly clearing that up.

Thats not what i said, I said no one HERE on this website. OK try Lawrence Lessig, professor at Harvard a real person. Three weeks ago.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/18/hillary-clinton-could-still-become-president-says-/

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Just as a matter of interest, do you think Trump supporters are more politically aware than others? 

The bigger question is, are trump haters politically aware than others?

His rallies seem to indicate otherwise.

Their outburst seem to indicate otherwise, case in point, I got into an argument with a guy droning on about Trump and as smart as the dude was, he couldn’t really argue a well thought out rebuttals to the questions he was asked to defend, I find this happens a lot with liberals, also why is it liberals tend to always get emotional when debating.

They make whooping noises and think Mexico will pay for the wall.

Doesn't matter who pays, just as long as it gets built.

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Their outburst seem to indicate otherwise, case in point, I got into an argument with a guy droning on about Trump and as smart as the dude was, he couldn’t really argue a well thought out rebuttals to the questions he was asked to defend, I find this happens a lot with liberals, also why is it liberals tend to always get emotional when debating.

Sounds exactly how I would describe you.

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Sounds exactly how I would describe you

Sorry, that would be most liberals. Keep hope alive.

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 he couldn’t really argue a well thought out rebuttals to the questions he was asked to defend, I find this happens a lot with liberals, also why is it liberals tend to always get emotional when debating.

Well, Bernie Sanders makes more sense than Trump or you. I wouldn't agree with him on everything, but he does have rationale in his arguments and speaks in full sentences.

As far as supporters, I haven't seen any Trump supporters who make sense.

OH, I take that back. One friend said we need someone like Trump to outcrazy Kim Jung Un. Rational actors were not working. It made sense, but it wasn't a reason to put nuclear weapons in the hands of crazy Trump.

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So there are 63 million people running around who voted for Trump and none of them make sense?

Please save that idea for the 2020 election we need another “deplorables” type soundbite for commercials.

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Their outburst seem to indicate otherwise, case in point, I got into an argument with a guy droning on about Trump and as smart as the dude was, he couldn’t really argue a well thought out rebuttals to the questions he was asked to defend, I find this happens a lot with liberals, also why is it liberals tend to always get emotional when debating.

Did he say “Hmmm...what about the Republicans? LMAO.”

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Their outburst seem to indicate otherwise, case in point, I got into an argument with a guy droning on about Trump and as smart as the dude was, he couldn’t really argue a well thought out rebuttals to the questions he was asked to defend, I find this happens a lot with liberals, also why is it liberals tend to always get emotional when debating.

This describes that poster on here you know the one that makes claims alters facts doesnt respond to questions asked by other forum posters and when a responce is given its totally irrelevent to the question asked.Yep there are some real arrogant asses out there.

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At least liberals can pass a primary school spelling test ("a responce"). Don't feel bad, at least you spelled your big bad cuss word correctly!

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Tora - And if the U.S. had a woman president, secretary of state/defense, etc. would he refuse a private meeting with her no matter how serious? His inability to trust himself to be professional around women sounds like a liability.

With Pence's bigoted views towards gays I'd be more concerned with him around young men, we all know how these GOP anti-gay crusaders tend to be secret men-lovers.

Seriously Pence should get Shaggy to rerecord "Wasn't me" for his Denial when Mueller comes for Trump and it all hits the fan. The whole rotten Republican party are guilty by association. Guilty enablers.

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Inside my extended family as we discussed the Presidential election, it was mentioned that voting for the Vice President and hoping both the Presidential candidates were removed from office somehow was discussed at length.

Since we couldn't could vote FOR either Presidential candidate, at least we could vote for the VP.

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Well, Bernie Sanders makes more sense than Trump or you.

Really? Once he said Free college tuition for everyone else and droned on income redistribution day in and day out, Yeah, reeeeeal smart.

I wouldn't agree with him on everything, but he does have rationale in his arguments and speaks in full sentences.*

But he can’t translate his socialist ideas into building up the country and making it wealthy.

As far as supporters, I haven't seen any Trump supporters who make sense.

Becuase liberals really run around with their fingers in their ears screaming la la la la la la la, and if you do that, you can’t listen to what the other side says.

OH, I take that back. One friend said we need someone like Trump to outcrazy Kim Jung Un.

So what’s the Democrats excuse?

Rational actors were not working. It made sense, but it wasn't a reason to put nuclear weapons in the hands of crazy Trump

We’re still alive, right? No one has died, right? My advice to you is, stay far away from the liberal news sites, bad for the health.

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As far as supporters, I haven't seen any Trump supporters who make sense.

I have to a point. I’ve heard arguments from those prepared to put up with the trash, lies, grandstanding, general stupidity and childishness as long as he delivers on tax cuts and immigration. Some think the checks and balances are enough to make sure Trump can be kept away from doing something truly catastrophic. I think they underestimate just how dangerous it is to the world to have a tantrum-throwing child leading the US.

What is beyond me is people defending his character. It’s an inability to be honest about what he is. I can envisage voting for a flawed character ( not as flawed as Trump ) if their policies are attractive to me.

Those who defend his rancid behaviour are acting like cult members.

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BlacklabelToday  04:47 pm JST

no one here, liberals in general don’t seem to realize there are 17 people in the line of succession after Trump and none of them are Dems or named Hillary or Bernie.

Here's where you show how little you understand the opposition. We don't want Trump out of office so a Democrat can take over. We want him out because he colluded with Russia to subvert the Republic and undermine the Constitution. He must be punished for that. The liberal (meaning freedom-protecting) institutions of the United States must successfully punish him or else the next time a would-be autocrat with more competence comes by, he'll almost certainly succeed where Trump will likely to have failed.

Pence is a religious fanatic with enough sexual hangups to fill and entire Freudian manual and a history of leadership incompetence to boot, but if he's not committed crimes against the US, then he deserves the leadership spot until he can be voted out. Because I think for most Americans, it's not about loyalty to a party, it's about loyalty to a political process and of course to the Constitution.

BlacklabelToday  05:18 pm JST

Well one thing we know is Hillary will never be President.

Why cant liberals accept that?

You must not hang out in the same liberal circles I do. I'm very deep in liberal social networks and there is very little longing for Hillary - if she comes up at all it is as a demonstration of the rampant sexism that is still a part of the American political environment, never as a vision of what the future of the Democratic Party will look like. Most liberals I listen to are actively involved in cultivating candidates who can compete in the 2018 elections. The community in general seems from my vantage point to be very committed to looking forward, not backward.

So, you know, enjoy your crowing now, because in a few months things are going to get rough for the unquestioning Trump supporters.

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Really? Once he said Free college tuition for everyone else and droned on income redistribution day in and day out, Yeah, reeeeeal smart.

Bernie Sanders was stating ideas which are pretty mainstream in the countries he looked to - the Scandinavian countries. You can agree or disagree with his ideas but they were clearly and intelligently put. Not crazy or stupid.

I thought Kasich put forward standard and sensible conservative ideas in the debates, but Trump lashed the whole thing into the toilet with knob-jokes and idiotic nicknames. Kasich’s ideas weren’t crazy or stupid.

Trump running around saying he would ban all Muslims, deport all illegals, make Mexico pay for the Wall ( I could go on ) did fall into the stupid category. They were not intelligent ideas and were not very well put.

There is an important distinction here.

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Pence doesn't get involved because he knows there is a real chance Trump could get the boot and he has to keep himself clean for that. He might be a religious fanatic, but he's got more going for him in the brain-department than Trump does.

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He almost looks like he's trying to do a Trump in that photo!

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So, you know, enjoy your crowing now, because in a few months things are going to get rough for the unquestioning Trump supporters.

been hearing this since November 2016. Still no actual evidence of a crime from Trump. At what point do you realize what you been hoping for simply isn’t there?

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"Pence has maintained an almost Teflon-like quality in the Russia probe"

Yeah, just like Trump, because ( EARTH CALLING DEMOCRATS! ) there is no collusion with Russia! Get with it already, sheesh...

change: "The way he lies with straight face, I can't stomach it."

What did he lie about, change? At least he's not creepy like our last VP, lol

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Just ask ANYONE from Indiana about how AWFUL Pence is. A failure.

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Pence has maintained an almost Teflon-like quality in the Russia probe that has cast a long shadow over Trump's White House.

Well, Democrat and FBI want President Trump and not Pence. The Democrat supporters and FBI are trying to take President down and they are using any dirt available on President Trump, but most of the dirt is hearsay and gossip. So President Trump is still surviving in the White House.

President Trump was not morally perfect person because where he comes from. He was a businessman and also celebrity reality show-business man. Nobody is perfect.

Why let this man does his duty and votes him out if you don't want him in the White House?

The American politicians are making themselves laughing stock to the world.

How can they tell the developing world the United State is most civilized nation in the world?

Who was to blame the Russian Government or Russian Business group have interfered in the 2016 US Election?

You have to blame the CIA and FBI because the FBI and the CIA couldn't do their job and both organizations have failed to protect American interest.

James Comey was deserved to sack by President Trump because he didn't do his job. Comey was incompetent FBI boss. If he has done his job and then the Russian gate will never happen and President Trump may not be elected to office.

Also James Comey was unable to make decision about who he wants to call his next boss. So he tried to make favor Donald Trump by declaring he will investigate Hillary Clinton email again just two weeks before the election. James Comey has made a lot of mistakes and he has hurt Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

I think Democrat and Democrat's supporters must give up hope for to remove President Trump from White House for now. The Russian gates show how the CIA and FBI are incompetent and weak. They need to stop Russian Gates now and let Hollywood to make a movie. Nobody is perfect and even more popular and respected Democrat President Bill Clinton had served blow job by Monica Lewinsky in Oval Office. Let President Trump do his job as President of United State.

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This:

So what’s the Democrats excuse?

is a completely irrelevant response to this:

OH, I take that back. One friend said we need someone like Trump to outcrazy Kim Jung Un

That was the fifth irrelevant response for Feb. 5. Nice roll.

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Please fill me in: I am somewhat distant from US homeland news. Is it just a coincidence that Pence seems to be being groomed to replace Trump if there should be any (heaven forbid) accident/crime/or (if it is just, ok) impeachment that would remove the President? Are even Republicans in the Administration, therefore, preparing for such a sea-change? Fact: all Vice Presidents have been saying their job is merely ceremonial: viz., going to state funerals abroad and other rituals of little political import. Yet, here is Pence, keeping away from bad PR like a pro and doing active service in foreign affairs!

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ChristinaT - Since Clinton, the role of VP has changed from figurehead to something slightly meaningful. Vice President Gore was involved in many aspects. Met him at work one day at JSC. He gave some sort of award for saving govt money to our project.

Since before the election, most core republicans have been talking about the VP taking over. There was a small, vocal, pro-Trump group. Most republicans were shocked when he earned the nomination.

I expect President Trump to declare "I was the best President Ever!" and resign at some point. When the next guy comes in, we can pass laws against many of the things Trump is doing - too much golf. too many forced hotel uses for his properties, any relatives being included in any Presidential advisory roles, and if we could, let's remove all social networking from Presidents.

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