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© Copyright 2022 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.Pence to rally with Kemp in Georgia in break with Trump
By JILL COLVIN NEW YORK©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
20 Comments
theFu
I won't be voting for Brian Kemp this fall and seriously doubt any GOP running will get my vote. They've proven the last few years they cannot be trusted. Period.
I'm not saying that I like any of the democrats, but at least they didn't change voting laws over hype that voter fraud is an issue in Georgia - it isn't. Less than 100 ballots were found to be fraudulent and no election results would have changed. Some of the "fraud" was by people who recently moved pre-election, but voted in their old precinct.
https://www.businessinsider.com/pro-trump-oan-admits-no-election-fraud-georgia-2020-2022-5
Actually, the largest attempted fraud in Georgia was by the ex-Prez and that failed. It is going to a Grand Jury soon: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/02/us/trump-election-georgia-grand-jury.html These are criminal charges.
UChosePoorly
Thank you for voting, theFu! Please encourage everyone you know to do so as well. Democracies work best when everyone participates.
lincolnman
Just look at the comments from the Trump supporters from 2016 to Jan 5th 2021.....
"Mike Pence is a hero"....."He's the best VP ever"....."A freedom loving patriot"...."A true MAGA warrior"....
Then he stands up to the attempted coup on Jan 6th and suddenly goes from hero to scum....
The great MAGA-RINO war within the Repub party continues....and will sink its chances in both 2022 and 2024....
bass4funk
No, it won’t.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/28/politics/democrats-losing-seats-midterms-polling/index.html
https://www.wsj.com/articles/karl-rove-how-badly-will-the-democrats-lose-approval-rating-biden-senate-house-races-midterm-2022-election-inflation-build-back-better-student-debt-11651091790
Peter14
It is easy to see who had the brains in the partnership during the Trump/Pence term in office. One defends democracy while the other attempted to destroy it.
My American friend always said that Pence was not much better than Trump but at least he understands democracy and how important it is.
Can not criticize Trump enough, the guy is bottom of the barrel scum. McCain was the last honorable republican. Lets hope they manage to uncover some other honorable members in the GOP before it is too late.
bass4funk
Depends on your point of view and with each day the more we are learning, we are indeed finding out that one party was trying to uphold democracy and the other tried to destroy it.
Both men understand Democracy, in actuality THEY weren’t really the problem
I disagree, there are many good Republicans. McCain as a politician was not. McCain policy was and how he voted was more aligned with the Democrats and for the life of me I could never understand why he just didn’t cross over I would have respected him more. But he wasn’t liked as much as a politician and that is one reason why so many Republicans didn’t support his presidential run.
They have quite a few, but they’re not the RINO Washington corporate establishment leeches they are of today.
lincolnman
Indeed - whether you support free and fair elections or attempt a coup using "fraudulent electors and fake certification lists"...
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/25/politics/fake-trump-electoral-certificates-justice-department/index.html
Well, one clearly wasn't - the other was considering a rebellion by declaring martial law and have the military confiscate voting machines...
https://www.npr.org/2022/01/23/1075219215/jan-6-panel-is-investigating-a-trump-administration-plan-to-seize-voting-machine
He was a REAL hero, and someone devoted to his country who sacrificed almost six years in a POW camp. His correcting of a woman saying Obama was Muslim showed more integrity and courage than the entire GOP has in 2022...
Yea, they're anti-Semites like MTG or child sex traffickers like Matt Gaetz...
bass4funk
The way Dems tried to undermine the 2016 election with the help of our intel agencies….
https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/12/17/how-democrats-attempted-a-2016-electoral-college-coup
Ok, that’s how you see it, half of the country sees it coming from the left.
https://www.conservativedailynews.com/2020/11/judge-orders-philadelphia-counting-center-to-allow-republican-observers/
We know, I was talking about his political record. Don’t conflate the two.
https://www.gq.com/story/john-mccain-is-the-perfect-american-lie
I think you meant Ilhan Omar
Debunked.
lincolnman
One more dodge on explaining the fraudulent electors and fake lists...
Half? Clearly false....
*When Quinnipiac conducted a second poll six months after the election, the number of respondents who believed the election to be legitimate increased to nearly two-thirds. *Respondents who said the contest was illegitimate dropped to 29%.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/feb/02/viral-image/no-most-americans-dont-believe-2020-election-was-f/
Your disparaged a legitimate hero - consistent with MAGA-world's hate for our military...remember who called them "suckers and losers"...
Nope, wanna explain this?
https://www.vox.com/22256258/marjorie-taylor-greene-jewish-space-laser-anti-semitism-conspiracy-theories
Hmmmm.....
https://www.thedailybeast.com/witness-can-confirm-matt-gaetz-was-told-he-had-sex-with-a-minor
bass4funk
The same with the left dodging the question of not allowing Republican observers to watch the counting process.
No…
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2021/10/11/new-poll-most-say-2020-election-was-totally-loaded-with-fraud-n2597279
The way you guys did with Flynn and Petraeus?
Anyway, I was talking about his political record as a politician.
https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/19/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-global-warming-nazis/
https://www.conservativeworldnews.com/matt-gaetz-was-right-extortionist-pleads-guilty-in-federal-court/
SuperLib
Pence deserves to be thrown in the gutter for trusting Trump. He did it to himself, just like all the rest.
bass4funk
No, it’s not his fault that Pence is another boring Washington establishment fixture. The best thing Trump could have down was throwing him under the bus.
He sure did
theFu
Mike Pence did the VP job, which is to support the President. Not much leeway with that job. In public, he needed to back his boss and in private, provide insights which we all know were ignored.
I suppose Pence may have gotten Trump to find religion ... or he found it only because those ultra right voters won't vote for a Republican in the primaries who doesn't mimic their crazy beliefs.
My issue isn't with Pence as a man. As a private citizen, I bet he's a good neighbor. It is with him as a leader and representative. His fundamental religious believes scare me like the Crusades and Inquisition. His views represent less than 30% of Americans. But at least he knows how the USGovt is supposed to work, unlike his former boss.
If he runs for President, he will lose. 30% isn't enough to be competitive.
lincolnman
And another duck...they just can't explain it...because they'd have to admit it was clear evidence of a coup...
Oh yea....
https://nypost.com/2022/02/16/half-of-gop-voters-want-to-move-on-from-trump-voting-fraud-claims-poll/
Thanks for admitting it....
Another dodge....once more, explain this....
In her post, Marjory Taylor Greene laid out a conspiracy theory claiming that the 2018 California wildfires were possibly caused by "lasers or blue beams of light." She also claimed the wildfires would benefit an international banking firm with a Jewish family name.
https://www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-claims-jewish-space-lasers-conspiracy-theory-was-fake-news-1574928
Indeed....
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/matt-gaetz-ex-girlfriend-grand-jury-sex-trafficking-charges/
lincolnman
Go thru this posters archive for four years from 2016 to 2020 and you'll find nothing but effusive praise for Pence...."a true MAGA warrior"...."no better VP".... Pence finds his conscience and refuses to be part of Trump's coup....and AFTER that he's called "another boring Washington establishment fixture"....
It's an open admission of hypocrisy in black and white...
You sure did...
bass4funk
Not at all.
Hmmm...
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-judge-says-dc-jail-violated-civil-rights-jan-6-defendant-2021-10-13/
Same to you.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9992727/Alexandria-Ocasio-Cortezs-biggest-hypocrisies-controversies-allegations-fledgling-career.html
Indeed....
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/nyt-painted-matt-gaetz-as-a-child?s=r
bass4funk
Not now and never for President.
Good for Pence and his conscious won't help his presidency
Not me, but Pence did. Hope he enjoys the limelight.
lincolnman
Really? Fraudulent electors and phony certification lists....explain it...
Hmmm...
Dodge #3...a clear majority of Americans believe no fraud in 2020...proving you wrong when you said "half"...
Taps out....
And another dodge....can't explain MTG clearly anti-Semitic conspiracy theory...wonder why?
And defends someone under criminal investigation for child sex trafficking....welcome to today's Repub Party....
lincolnman
Of course not - he was VP - and you said he was the "best VP ever"....for four years....it's all in your archive....
So what if its Biden vs Pence in 2024 - who do you vote for?
Your archive says otherwise...unless you going to do a "MTG" and deny what you said in black and white...LOL...
bass4funk
At the time.
It's either Trump or DeSantis. either man would be great.
Why? Doubt it.