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Pence warns U.S. voters: 'You won't be safe' under Joe Biden

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Sounds like he's threatening them.

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So, everyone is safe now in Trump's America? They must be living in some alternate universe.

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The irony is people are not safe now in trump's America now.

How many people died from coronavirus in the US?

How many jobs lost?

How many unemployed?

How many deaths from police shootings?

How many of trump's good friends have been charged and/or convicted of crimes?

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So military armed police, are not enough? Citizens armed with Assult rifles is still not enough. Americans must be so scarred. I'd hate to live in so much fear that I'd believe a politician of any Faction could protect me. With so many threats to a country that has the biggest police force, biggest prison system, a global reach military...must be those aliens they won't tell us about I should fear...where is my foil hat?

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You won't be safe'

They also spoke of dark forces intent on ending the American dream

'Keep fear alive'! A motto of Trump's Republicans - and authoritarian regimes throughout history.

Trump etal have also used a variation of 'your property values', i.e. there goes the neighborhood, which has always been somewhere between dogwhistle and saying the quiet parts out loud.

Trump/barr/Pence continue to further divide the country along class and race lines. How many centi-billionaires created during the Trump regime? How many more standing in foodlines unable to feed the growing numbers needing assistance?

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Pence, don’t you worry. I’ll take the chance.

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accurate statement.

Joe only denounced the violence today because CNN told him he would lose the election, as its now on the radar as a Top 5 election concern.

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PT

How is Trump "authoritarian"??  Why do you think all the centi billionaires are Dems if they love Trump so much?  Prior to virus were there longer foodlines?

All these vague accusations repeated over and over but never any specific examples given.

Sad that the level of political discourse has sunk to Twitter style exchanges.

-18 ( +6 / -24 )

Dems say the only way the riots will stop is if Joe Biden is elected.

So, sounds like they directly control these? or is the purpose of the riots really to just get Trump out of office?

How do all these "system" issues get solved by Biden being elected? He is the system and has been so for 48 years.

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Interesting election.

Trump absolutely botched the handling of the coronavirus.

On the other hand, over the longer term I certainly fancy policies such as lower, rather than higher, taxes to help the economy and the value of businesses as reflected in the stock market.

And yes, Pence is speaking with some hyperbole here - but so were the Dems before Trump was elected. Some clown said that a Trump election would crash the stock market - instead it went up by 16% in his first year at a time people were saying a recession was due.

Who to pick this time... its a four year term, do you vote with that in mind or the short term focus of addressing the pandemic... go decide ye Americans!

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"The hard truth is... you won't be safe in Joe Biden's America," said the 61-year-old Pence.

Well, a lot safer than in Trump's America.

"who do you trust to rebuild this economy?"

Definitely not Trump, who is a slum lord who has gone through numerous bankruptcies and has been involved in numerous lawsuits involving former workers who have been stiffed payment (and many who had been illegal immigrants at the time). Also, why would we trust Trump who has steered America to its worst recession since the Great Depression?

First Lady Melania Trump, who on Tuesday defended the president as "an authentic person who loves this country."

I think Trump loves this country too. He just doesn't like the people in it. Also, 'authentic' is not one would associate Donald Trump with.

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The 180,000 coronavirus victims and all the victims of mass shootings in recent years are rolling in their graves.

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Trump needs the well-organized evangelical community to turn out to vote in what likely will be a tight election.

AKA, Trump needs the "whites" in America to vote for him, all of them, if he has any chance of winning.

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Joe only denounced the violence today because CNN told him he would lose the election, as its now on the radar as a Top 5 election concern.

But he has to be careful, if he pushes to crush the violence he will lose support and fast!

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Tonight, Pence mentioned that two police officers in Oakland was shot and killed during a peaceful BLM protest.

What Pence forgot to mention was that the shooter is connected to a Conservative Hate Group.

An officer was gunned down. The killer was a ‘boogaloo boy’ using nearby peaceful protests as cover, feds say.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/17/boogaloo-steven-carrillo/

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Joe only denounced the violence today because CNN told him he would lose the election

The CNN thing is fascinating.

We are told it’s fake news, but Trump supporters here were quoting a CNN poll they liked the other day.

We are told nobody watches it, but now it is influencing the position of a presidential candidate.

We are told nobody watches its celebs, but the name ‘Don Lemon’ is in the heads of Trump supporters here. I’ve lost count of the times I’ve heard that name here.

What a strange situation.

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"Home of the Brave" is a joke in the light of all the fear mongering from the right and the manifest cowardice of jittery American cops who pump bullets into black citizens' backs. Vice-Gaslighter Pence will be able to scare a sizable section of the populace, but this time the Electoral College won't be moved.

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s who sought to uplift the president as a champion of American values and civil rights.

Did Pence or any of the Republican speakers bring up the issue of foreign states getting involved in US politics to help Trump/barr/Pence/McConnell and other Trump Republicans? Or was their message once again just fear the 'other' Americans, the 'them'. Speaking of keeping fear alive, did the Republicans have any NRA speakers to further ramp up fear.

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VP Pence: You won't be safe under Joe Biden. There will be rioting, lawlessness, civil unrest, unemployment, blah, blah, blah! . . .

Yeah, kind of like what's been happening for the past 4 years.

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"Defund the police!" vs. "Call the cops!"

Pick one, and only one. If you select option 1, you must man-up and be personally ready and willing to deal with the chaos. Select option 2, you shut up and respect the police.

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CNN Fact check: Pence alleges that Biden has done nothing to denounce the violence over the last months.

False! He released his first statement, this morning.

Thats the kind of nonsense we get. A statement this morning that should have been made last May and that is only being made because Trump is winning the polls on law and order. Biden isnt actually going to do anything to stop the riots, he just needed to make a statement to win the liberal media "fact check".

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Yes, CNN Don Lemon directed Biden personally in a video to him. Danger, Joe, Danger, You have to address this!

Video from the basement is the Biden communication method, you know this.

CNN communicates directly with Biden? I think you’re confused given it’s Fox “News” and Trump who constantly communicate.

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Indeed, all covid deaths and mass shooting deaths are DT's fault.  And all evangelicals are White.  And yes foreign governments are colluding with Repubs to help them.  And indeed the lawlessness and civil unrest and unemployment have been around since the day DT got elected (rather than just the last few months).

Puzzles me how people who are literate enough to post on this site are apparently unable or unwilling to do a little basic research.

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Here ya go, you can even see the video to Joe. It shows up in the polling. Not that it is wrong, or that people are dying and businesses are being burned and looted. It shows up in the polling. Very telling.

CNN's Lemon warns of Democratic 'blind spot' on 'riots': 'It shows up in the polling

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/513742-cnns-lemon-warns-of-democratic-blind-spot-on-riots-it-shows-up-in-the-polling

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"won't be safe in Joe Biden's America"

Yeah, god forbid we go back to the bad old days under Obama/Biden when people had jobs, the post office worked, cities weren't in a perpetual state of civil unrest, hundreds of thousands weren't dying as a result of a bungled pandemic response and millions weren't facing eviction.

Scary stuff that.

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When was Nikki Haley a "girl!? at least 30-40 years ago. So she obviously isnt talking about now.

But dont worry Joe Biden was in government even then. As part of the "systemic racism".

I was a brown girl in a Black and white world. We faced discrimination and hardship,

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Yeah, god forbid we go back to the bad old days under Obama/Biden when people had jobs, the post office worked, cities weren't in a perpetual state of civil unrest, hundreds of thousands weren't dying as a result of a bungled pandemic response and millions weren't facing eviction.

Scary stuff that.

The post office worked?  You seen the numbers on H1N1?  60 million infections?  (less deaths but that is not a result of good handling).  No civil unrest?

you serious?

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I find it interesting that CNN feels it necessary to give a personal warning to Joe Biden about his blind spot.

Must be getting serious. Their own poll only has Biden up by 4 points, and you know they did everything they could to make that lead as much as possible.

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With pictures:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/05/11/coronavirus-keeps-joe-biden-home-2020-campaign-rolls/5177329002/

Biden in the basement: Can campaigning from home work as Trump starts to travel?

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It hasnt disappeared. Despite 48 years of Joe Biden on the job. But now, he will fix it! right?

You act like Trump created racism or something. What did Obama/Biden do about systemic racism in their 8 years? cause we still have it. WHY?

So the racism magically disappears. Got it.

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Here is an idea, seperate America North Democrats, South Republicans both sides are happy and should something go array well as two independent countries I'm sure with sanctions and threats of war...they will work it out. If not the militias will.

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CNN.com doesnt have ratings, but ok.

I am sure you are looking forward to Day 4 of the RNC tomorrow as I am. Cant wait to see what our President has to say about our bright future, post corona and post Antifa riots.

Good day.

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P. Smith - You’re citing a CNN poll.

Democrats LOVE to look at CNN polls. Especially when they predicting/guessing that Trump will lose. Doesn't seem to matter if the CNN polls are right or wrong or just plain silly, as long as the CNN pole agrees with a democrat's pre-conditioned notions. Democrats must feel that CNN polls simply speak to them. Deep down in their feelings. Where it really counts.

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The post office worked? 

Yeah, it helped that they were allowed to use sorting machines back then. I'm in Japan right now and I haven't been able to send packages to the US via the post office for months. I can send them to Mexico, I can send them to Canada, I can send them to most developed countries. But the post office in the US does not work now. Never recall having had this problem during the Obama years.

You seen the numbers on H1N1? 60 million infections? (less deaths but that is not a result of good handling). 

Yeah, look at those numbers. 12,000 deaths in a 2 year period versus 180,000 deaths in a 6 month period.

Also Obama/Biden actually tried to do something about that instead of just letting it happen like Trump/Pence. And Biden has actually outlined a plan for what he will do about it, while the GOP has literally decided to forego having a party platform this election (not just on COVID, but on everything).

No civil unrest?

No? When has there ever been zero civil unrest? But I don't recall anything on a similar scale to what is going on now happening during the Obama/Biden years.

you serious?

Yeah, the threat of 4 more years of this chaos, corruption and stupidity is deadly serious.

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Pence was the keynote speaker in a parade of Trump acolytes

composed mainly of his family and their girlfriends.

Not girlfriends, but family.

The highlights of this convention beyond the constant doom, gloom, and steady stream of blatant lies are when a Tiffany Trump made this asinine comment: “As a recent graduate, I can relate to so many of you who might be looking for a job” and Nikki Haley contradicted herself within the span of ten seconds.

Well, the message wasn't doom and gloom, but of admiration, love and devotion to the country, not that we are perfect, but we live in one of the greatest countries in the world, not perfect, but a country that allows people to be what they want and to reach and achieve any dream they want.

“America is not a racist country.

Exactly! It is not, it is not perfect, but if it were overtly a racist country, someone like Obama would have never made it to the presidency.

This is personal for me. I am the proud daughter of Indian immigrants. They came to America and settled in a small southern town. My father wore a turban. My mother wore a sari. I was a brown girl in a Black and white world. We faced discrimination and hardship, but my parents never gave into grievance and hate.”

No wonder these people love the poorly educated.

Why?

-12 ( +4 / -16 )

Is simple. Trump focus is on China, while Biden is focus on Russia. Trump has the backing of the police while Biden want to cut funds of the police. The former is well liked by business people while the latter is well liked by the common people. The former priority is how to earn money while the latter is fond of giving handouts to people. One is against immigrants and refugees while the other want to open the nation.

Personally i think the EU hated Trump too because he called them out for their hypocrisy. The EU constantly does business with sanction nations. I heard Biden is suffering from dementia so i am pretty sure he is gonna be a puppet of the democrats.

Both are poison but you gonna have to pick anyway. Now pick your poison. I think i prefer Trump because at least he is more active in dealing with China who is being very aggressive in recent years near our waters and trying to expand both in the South and East China Sea. When Obama was president and Biden his vice president, neither of them had ever given Japan much though and only focus their war in the middle east and picking fight with Russia. They cause that whole fiasco in the middle east when the arab spring happen. Then the refugees crisis happen. I don't like Biden. He is old fashion from a past era.

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You act like Trump created racism or something.

You're right, Trump didn't create racism. What he has done though is to weaponize it and make it worse. He has caused it to become an issue of "Us against Them" and emboldened those hate groups to come out and wave their weapons around openly. These hate groups now know that they have a president who has their backs and will say things like "It is what it is".

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Trump must be kicking himself he didn't have more kids. He could have spun Nepotism-fest out for another day- another day of not having to lead, back in his preferred role of carnival barker /self-aggrandiser- hope he manages to get a round of golf in.

180,000 dead.

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Hopefully pence is far more loyal to his faith as he is to the truth.

On a day when a supremacist gunned down innocent protestors with the police doing little to precent it, he talks about the country being unsafe and yet forgets to mention minorities.

When gun toting klansmen can shoot down anyone and the police will give these disgusting individuals water bottles instead of arresting them, you know that America is regressing!!!

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You clearly missed all the ominous warnings about the democrats.

But nothing positive, nothing about condemning the riots, nothing about jobs.

Because you can’t recognize contradictions

I do, the Democrats had plenty.

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P. Smith - Okay. The difference is is that democrats don’t disparage polls when they cut against them and turn right around and cite them when they cut for democrats. 

Of course it's Okay. I remember seeing so many democrats weeping after CNN polls had led them to believe that Trump's opponent could not lose. CNN wouldn't lie to them again?

-14 ( +1 / -15 )

Lynchings is the term more suitable to describe what is happening today.

trump has taken America back a 100 years!!!

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Uh, we’re talking about the RNC.

But that's who their rival is, so it's relevant.

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RNC will set the record for the most lies told over a limited period of time.

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RNC will be where the race inequalities were blatantly ignored, fairy tales conjured , law an order ignored and minorities told that they have no place in America.

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But that's who their rival is, so it's relevant.

If this was about their rival, which it isn't.

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Biden: Vote for me, and I'll do good things.

Trump cultists: How vapid. Didn't say anything. Awful.

Trump: Vote for me, and I'll do good things.

Trump cultists: So powerful. Such insight and detail. Inspiring.

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They also spoke of dark forces intent on ending the American dream and said losing to their Democratic rivals is not an option.

The dark forces killed 2 innocents today, no mention by any of the speakers .

What a surprise!!!

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Pence is correct. Americans will not be safe under Biden or any leader. He failed to mention that the general safety of US citizens is an order of magnitude worse under Trump.

The reality is the world is dangerous for humans right now and no leader can guarantee complete safety. Responsible leaders can and do work to improve your chances and unreliable, despicable leaders do nothing to help you at all. Biden will be reliable and do his utmost to increase the safety of American's. We already know that Trump does nothing but worry about how his ratings are and whether people like him or not letting you sink or swim with luck dictating your level of safety.

For those wanting a safer America, vote for Biden. If you want to play "Russian roulette" with you life and the lives of family and friends then by all means vote for the guy (Trump) that will increase your chances of having a lot less safety.

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Hardly, the DNC is on record for having the most......nothing of significance.

Biden: Vote for me, and I'll do good things.

Reality: I will do whatever AOC and the Marxists tell me to do.

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Hardly, the DNC is on record for having the most......nothing of significance.

Biden: Vote for me, and I'll do good things.

Reality: I will do whatever AOC and the Marxists tell me to do.

God, I wish.

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Kyle, this 17-year-old thug, does not even owned that AR legally!

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I doubt we are safer under Trump considering he recommends injecting Mr. Clean as CV treatment. Must be part of the TrumpCare plan since he has not made any other announcements about it.

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I guess someone will be mad that can't brag about their TV ratings!

Who am I kidding?! The president will just lie about it anyway!

GOP TV Ratings Fall Below Democrats, Despite Fox News' Big Night

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-tv-ratings-fall-below-121945672.html

That trump family affair is not going over well with viewers! Maybe, they read the posts on JT!

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Well, the message wasn't doom and gloom, but of admiration, love and devotion to the country, not that we are perfect, but we live in one of the greatest countries in the world, not perfect, but a country that allows people to be what they want and to reach and achieve any dream they want.

Admiration of "MS-13 living next to you" and "rat-infested cesspools" with "heroin addicts everywhere"? Wow! What kind of warped sense of world do you live in? But hey, I get it. Republicans want to paint a rosy picture of everything, even when reality is so far off. They'd rather listen to speakers like Don Jr, giving televangelist type of speeches and shouting matches.

As for me, I'd rather not have a president like Trump who will gloss over reality and brainwash everyone in thinking that 177,000 deaths from a pandemic is natural, or "It is what it is".

I also would not want a president who is constantly accusing others of nepotism, but lets his own family and their girlfriends have positions within government, then take tax payer's money and turn it into his own profit.

I'd rather not have a president like Trump, who spends more time playing golf and tweeting, than actually on his job.

I'd rather not have a president like Trump who makes enemies of our former allies like the U.K., Canada, and France, but would cozy up to the leaders of countries like Russia and North Korea.

I'd rather not have a president like Trump who would put troops at harm by letting Russia conduct bounties on them without any repercussions.

I'd rather not have a president who would break all laws, such as the Hatch Act, in order to get re-elected. By the way, why were those few people he accepted as new immigrants chosen, while there are so many thousands of other waiting to be admitted as citizens? I think I must have missed the explanation as to why they were chosen.

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Everybody who votes for Trump should get a free AR rifle and a Pense autographed bible.

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as its now on the radar as a Top 5 election concern.

oh like Trump not debunking QAnon conspiracy, because he heard their supporters like him. lol

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Kellyanne's farewell address: "Our responsibility Is to focus on those who have far less than us."

Exit laughing.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kellyanne-conway-reflects-on-white-house-tenure-in-rnc-speech-our-responsibility-is-to-focus-on-those-who-have-far-less-than-us/ar-BB18pcbX

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Trump: Vote for me, and I'll do good things.

Trump: vote for me so I can fix the monumental fracken mess I created.

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I guess someone will be mad that can't brag about their TV ratings!

Yes, we can...literally.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2020/08/25/158-million-viewers-watch-first-night-of-republican-convention/#459f9d11cd16

Who am I kidding?! The president will just lie about it anyway!

The liberal media does all the time, all the time.

That trump family affair is not going over well with viewers!

Not only going very well, but crushing the ratings of the competition combined.

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Incorrect. Since I was describing my favorite parts of the RNC, the DNC is absolutely irrelevant.

No, because the RNC is taking on the DNC so it's relevant.

-10 ( +5 / -15 )

I cannot believe that I am reading suggestions (that are liked!!) about separating the US physically.  Apartheid anyone?  Plus not all Southern states are Republican nor all Northern Democrat.

As for a number of other posts alleging DT said this or that (e.g. inject Mr Clean as a cure for Covid), people really ought to check facts before just swallowing media nonsense.

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trump has taken America back a 100 years!!!

You must not be an American, that statement is complete B.S.

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Not even the TV stunts are helping his ratings!

RNC Naturalization Ceremony Sparks Uproar: ‘This Ceremony Is Not About Worshiping a President’

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/rnc-naturalization-ceremony-sparks-uproar-041206003.html

Tuesday’s Republican National Convention sparked uproar on social media from some politicians and commentators for including a naturalization ceremony in the White House, featuring a government official who may be illegally occupying his position, at a political campaign event — and also at a time when U.S. immigration has been delayed by the Trump administration amid the pandemic.

> The pre-taped ceremony featured 5 citizenship applicants from disparate backgrounds, with their oaths of citizenship officiated by acting Secretary of Homeland Security Chad Wolf, as Donald Trump watched. Afterward, Wolf effusively praised Trump and the newly inducted citizens were encouraged to do the same.

Perfect example of the criminality occupying the White House!

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Hi, I'm Mike Pence and I'm the world's biggest sycophant and hypocrite...

I say I'm a fundamentalist Christian but I support my President who has been married three times, each time cheating on the former spouse with the next spouse, brags about assaulting women, and "wished well" a child sex trafficker...

I look the other way when my President says of white supremacists and Neo Nazi's; "some are very fine people"...

I avert my eyes when my President says COVID is a "hoax" and "just one person from China", even when the death toll goes over 186K...

I put my hands over my ears when my President insults American heroes and my personal friends like John McCain...

I'm just an empty shell of a human being...

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Not only going very well, but crushing the ratings of the competition combined.

True, everyone is curious to see who's going to be shouting like a banshee next, or appear to be high on cocaine, or what outlandish lie will be said next, or who will shout "spawn of Satan" next on the big Trump reality show. After all, people are naturally attracted to controversy and the extreme. It's why shows like "The Real World" and "Survivor" had such high ratings, even though we all know it's not all real.

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