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© (c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2019.Pentagon chief suggests European allies replace funds diverted to border wall
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PTownsend
One more example Trump's disdain for military members, who, according to some chickenhawks, are expendable.
bass4funk
Luckily they don’t feel the same.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/07/10/strong-support-for-trump-among-veterans-in-new-national-poll/
PTownsend
I wouldn't expect most military members would feel they're expendable, unlike the chickenhawks who've written military members are. SMH
bass4funk
That would depend.
SuperLib
Sounds like a tolerable trade-off. The military voted for Trump, he strips down childcare and education.
They did it to themselves and it doesn't impact me. I don't support the wall but at least some else has to sacrifice for it.
Serrano
The wall should have been built decades ago.
circumvents Congress.
Yeah, well, Congress won't fund the wall, so it has to be circumvented or we lose our country.
Strangerland
Oh I can’t wait to throw that line right back at you when the next Democratic president.
And I'm going to add at the end:
But, you guys!
TumbleDry
Wasn’t Mexico supposed to pay for it?
What happened to it?
Strangerland
Why should Mexico pay for it when Trump can just take away from military families to pay for it?
bass4funk
Looking at California, it’s painfully obvious liberals could care less about border security, sovereignty, rule of law or illegal immigration. Trump is absolutely right on This One! We don’t do anything, we lose our country, that’s it.
lincolnman
Lose our country....now that's funny. As if we're going to be defeated by some poor children and women....all the while the real threat is the Russian asset in the White House doing Putin's bidding...
Trump: Mexico will pay for the wall, mark my words, mark my words....Who will pay for the wall? MEXICO!.....That's right, Mexico will pay for the wall, believe me....
What a liar and huckster....
Now, once again showing his disdain and lack of respect for our military, he shifts funds from key operational facilities, fire and rescue buildings, schools (one on Okinawa) , etc., to pay for a useless wall that will have a door so his golf course employees can get through...
SuperLib
Same with Brexit.
Strangerland
Love it or leave it. You don't love California, then leave. They don't want you any more than you want them.
SuperLib
But isn’t that irrelevant to the fact that Congress decides spending?
And no, a wall is not the solution. Spend the $5 billion elsewhere on protection. Everyone agrees the wall isn’t the best use of funds.
None of you guys can even describe what it is that you want built. It’s just a symbol for you. You just want to win something. It the wall gets built tomorrow and in 5 years we learn it really was a complete waste of money, you won’t even care.
Strangerland
It's like the Iraq war debacle. They invaded a sovereign nation who had not attacked them, based on lies by a president who was more interested in finishing his daddy's unfinished business, than he was in the truth.
Then after supporting that moron for eight years, the deplorables lost to Obama. After eight years of that, they just moved on, never addressing their massive screwup during the Bush years.
What do they care about a bunch of brown people living in the desert on the other side of the world? The only time they care about that region is when they can make money through selling weapons, or when they can tear apart something good that Obama did, because they HATE that the people loved him (like LOVED him - HUUUUUUUGE approval ratings when leaving office) while hating Bush II and Trump.
bass4funk
Not surprisingly liberals think it’s funny.
Yeah, pretty much at this rate.
No, the real threat is China, domestically, the open borders, but thankfully, that’s going to change.
As if Dems are the epitome and represent the virtues of truth and justice. Lol. Democrats didn’t want any part of it, he kept his campaign promise as he said, he’ll get it one way or another. He did and the CBP, DHS, and ICE are happy, I know I am.
Naw, Trump loves pie military and they know exactly what he was up against with the Democrats, so we get the wall and it would seem, the Dems got..nothing as usual.
Peter14
The Mexicans were smart enough not to pay for Trumps idiotic wall. I think the Europeans will be smart enough not to pay for it as well. They will not replace funding diverted to the wall and nor should they.
If I was the next President, the first thing I would do is tear down Trumps barrier (should it get built in any way) by taking money from Republican electorates to pay for dismantling and use hired Mexican immigrant labor to do it. It will be needed to get US freedom back and return the country to the American people. Right wing nut jobs cant be allowed to dictate US policy. The current right wing nut job in the oval office must go.
bass4funk
Democrats are a part of Congress and these Congress people refuse to help this President, the CBP has been begging for Congress to act, they didn’t, Trump did, end of story.
Tell That to the Israelis and tell that to the CBP and ICE. Funny how none of the liberal networks won’t put the experts on from these organizations to give their facts and advice.
Yaaaawn....I see....
Uh-huh, well, anyway...175 miles are funded and going up, good times ahead. I’m happy.
starpunk
Many military members are too young, unseasoned and unknowing about this fascist who is giving them orders. He is a chickenhawk who cares nothing about the armed forces whatsoever. He is treating them like chessmen. He endangered a whole SEAL unit during the Christmas season with his selfie stunt, remember that? He claims that 'ISIL is defeated' and the troops will leave Syria now but the Army Times says otherwise. They have not left Syria.
We have the wrong people at the helm, and everything they're doing is wrong. As a military veteran of the Cold War I am ashamed and disgusted with a capital 'D' with this bullying immature obsessive bull-headed babyish excuse for a commander-in-chief. Trump is a traitor and a disgrace.
lincolnman
When someone says it's little children and their mothers. Now, having Putin's Puppet in the White House doing his Masters' bidding, that's not funny...as a Trump cabinet member accurately said, that's a "danger to our republic"...
Thanks for admitting you're afraid of women and children...
China is a competitor, not a threat - but this moron is only strengthening Xi's grip on power....
Dems????? Donnie said Mexico will pay for the wall, not Democrats. So why isn't Mexico paying?
"Pie military" - must be similar to "infantroopen"....amazing I spent 27 years in the military and never heard these words...
Norman Goodman
Why should Europe pay a dime? Europe is shouldering the cost and trouble of a refugee crisis caused by American and British murderous and greedy foreign policy in the Middle East. And refugees heading to the U.S. from South and Central America are also largely a result of U.S. government greedy and murderous foreign policy.
If the U.S. government is going to take the border wall money from the people who perpetrate America's greedy and murderous foreign policy I don't much care except to say I wish it was coming from the people who profit from the greed and murderousness most, at the very least. Far better though if the greed and murderousness were stopped.
lincolnman
175 miles of wall, 1825 miles of black sharpie line....
Of course...
Sneezy
This is true. President Fatso does love pie.
SuperLib
But, and correct me if I’m wrong, Congress controls the spending, right? And they had a vote and passed a budget. Then Trump signed it. Is it sometimes OK for a President to do that, then ignore the budget?
I’m happy that you are happy. We’ve beaten you down from 2,000 miles and $25 billion to 175 miles while taking from your military buddies and family.
I guess you could say you’ve lowered your expectations,
Toasted Heretic
Who benefits from weakening and/or dividing the EU?
bass4funk
I think being overrun with illegals and the tax payer has to fund that Socialist Newsom and his radical policies are not only disastrous, but destructive, no wonder everyone is leaving...
I never said that. I was talking about “illegals.”
China is a full on threat, even Schumer proudly admits it and supports Trump in taking a tough stance on China.
They blocked him at every turn and now he did as he promised and got the funds, I am so happy.
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bass4funk
Utter nonsense.
lincolnman
Yep, those 2 year olds are scary....can see why you want to lock them up...
Illegal women and children....
Really? Amazing some people still have their clothing line made there....assume you have a Chinese-made "Trump 2020" flag?
Who, the Mexicans?
People who continually remind everyone they're happy usually aren't....kind of like people who have to continually remind everyone they're a stable genius...
bass4funk
Their parents broke the law and now thanks to liberals, Trump made sure they’ll never get separated from their parents again. Heart and soul.
Illegal is illegal.
It’s still doesn’t mean that we should continue to allow ourselves follow the path of being screwed in the worst way.
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Oh, I forgot... the Dems don’t care about the DACA kids so why on Earth would they care about a wall?
That’s your opinion, I disagree.
bass4funk
He also said one way or another the wall will be built, focus on the entire sentence that the man said, don’t be selective.
coskuri
So Mexico was paying for that so far ? I had no idea.
smithinjapan
Isn't Mexico going to pay for the wall?
I love how bringing that up irks the trumpers.
lincolnman
OK...
*"Hundreds of thousands of people are coming in. I would build a wall the likes of which nobody has seen before. I'm a really good builder. Have you heard that? I really know how to build. I build very, very tall, beautiful buildings and they do well. *And you know who'd pay for the wall — Mexico. Because they've been screwing us so badly, frankly, they're going to have to pay. They'll pay."
*"Right now, we are losing so much money each year because of the illegal immigrants — people that are in our country illegally. Hundreds of billions of dollars — people don't realize that. They say, 'Oh, it will cost a lot of money to build a wall.' First of all, Mexico is going to pay for the wall. And the reason Mexico is going to pay? You know, a lot of people think — like some of the politicians — 'Well, you can't get Mexico' — well, of course you can. They're making a fortune off the United States, in terms of trade," Trump said.*
*"I'm going to stop illegal immigration and I'm going to stop drugs from pouring into our country. And yes we will build a wall and you're right, Mexico will pay for the wall. They will pay for the wall," he said.*
*"Oh, we'll build the wall. We're going to build the wall, and Mexico's going to pay for the wall, believe me — 100 percent. Mexico's doing well, thanks to the United States," Trump said.*
*"A lot of politicians said '*You can't get Mexico to pay for the wall.' I said, 'It's going to be so easy. It's going to be so easy.'"
That's just five - there's over 60 more...
SuperLib
Trump did say Mexico would pay for the wall. When he failed at that he went to Congress. When he failed at that he started raiding education and childcare for military families overseas.
He needs this for his reelection to get his base to come out and vote for him since he has no accomiahments. My guess is he will drain the military even more.
No real sacrifice for me, and Arizona will most likely get jobs.
Luddite
So Mexico isn't paying for the wall then. Who'd have guessed?
bass4funk
And as Trump has stated, the American hating Democrats don’t care about our country. Lindsey Graham suggested there were other sources where the President could pull money from to build his wall.
And that wall is being built 175 miles of it, that’s huge!
The wall will be one of the best the world has seen and it is a beaut.
Where he said, he would obtain the money from other areas.
TheLongTermer
dare I say it, but do dependents really contribute to the readiness of the military? Allot of marriages end in divorce, not to mention the cost of DOD facilities because of "hardships" endured in Japan etc. A Marine Commandant once recommended that a Marine be at least a Sgt before marriage was allowed but it was deemed inhumane. Actually it made allot of sense. I agree, allot of these programs are wasteful and should be diverted towards making the border, and citizens, safe.
bass4funk
There’s more than enough money. But what gets me is, how liberals are so concerned for our military, this is a first before that Democrats loathed the military as well as the FBI and now they talk about them both in such glowing and admiration terms. Kinda creepy actually..
What? Not true! Over 200 accomplishments and still counting.
For me neither, but as you said for his base and the people that are on the fence and want him as well as their local city officials to do something, now the President is doing just that.
Jimizo
Trump has been as useless on delivering his wall as he has been on his promise to reduce the debt.
lincolnman
"Oh, we'll build the wall. We're going to build the wall, and Mexico's going to pay for the wall, believe me — 100 percent. Mexico's doing well, thanks to the United States," Trump said.*
*"A lot of politicians said '*You can't get Mexico to pay for the wall.' I said, 'It's going to be so easy. It's going to be so easy.'"
100%.....it's going to be so easy......mark my words, mark my words......
Words marked Mr President - you lied and failed....
bass4funk
Yeah, no thanks to the Democrats, but that’s all water under the bridge now.
But he still for the funding as he promised one way or another, promise made, promise kept.
And getting that money was easy. 175 miles is faaaaar.
Wall is going up and it looks beautiful, the Democrats in California can enjoy their chaos.
SuperLib
So I guess we both hate the military now?
If you hear any military in Japan complain about their cuts, kindly tell them to shut up for us.
pacificwest
Is it too obvious to point out that the only solution is stop meddling in politics south of the border and raising the standard of living of people down there to the degree where they don't need to want to leave.
Legalizing, regulating and taxing narcotics, instead of profiting out of prohibition, would fix the rest.
I read an interesting article that the majority of people making the crossing actually had native American blood and, as with conflicts caused by other European imperialism, came from people's who ancestral lands straddled the region.
Decades of dictatorship supporting, CIA meddling, School of the Americas inspired genocides, and US corporate abuses have created this problem.
http://www.soaw.org/home/
Serrano
Isn't Mexico going to pay for the wall?
I love how bringing that up irks the trumpers.
Aren't the Democrats ever going to cooperate with our president on providing proper border security and do more than the Mexicans are currently doing to secure our border?
I love how bringing that up irks the anti-Trumpers.
pacificwest
Was it part of their election manifesto to do so? (I dont know).
I think that is the point being made.
With Trump it was on a par with nuking tornadoes.
Define "proper border security".
I dont think it is possible to do so. Especially give so many just fly in. Economic parity is the only way to solve it,
SuperLib
This is awesome:
Military school aided by McConnell among those losing funds to Trump wall
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/460221-military-school-aided-by-mcconnell-among-those-losing-funds-to-trump-wall
An Army base on the border of Kentucky and Tennessee is suspending plans to build a new middle school because of the redirection of funds for military projects to buildPresident Trump's wall.The New York Times highlighted the suspension of work on the school planned for the base in a Thursday report noting the Pentagon's diversion of $62.6 million from the project.
As a result, the Times reported that the roughly 552 students will continue to attend school in a school facility that has been described as overcrowded, with not enough classroom space for both teachers and students.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R) had championed the school project, writing in a January op-ed for the Louisville Courier-Journal that he was proud of working to ensure that funding for Fort Campbell as well as two other bases was included in the 2019 National Defense Authorization Act.
(End)
Trumpers hate brown people more than they love our military. And you bet McConnell will keep his mouth shut.
bass4funk
No “we” please don’t speak for me.
Oh, not again... I think that question should be applied to Democrats that govern over cities with people of color, why do they hate them so much? Why is it that now liberals care about the military when for more than 20 years they didn’t care at all and even distrusted them?
pacificwest
Of course, economic parity will only happen if there is a re-distribution of some of the wealth the US took out of Central and South America, and compensations and reparations for their meddling during the destabilization of the 1980s during the US's bogus cold war, and the multinational companies and CEOs actually paying taxes.
Example, in Guatemala alone an estimated 200,000 people were killed, El Salvador 75,000 civilians dead, Nicaragua 40,000 and so on ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change_in_Latin_America
lincolnman
Trump makes promises, blames Dems when he can't keep them...typical 2 year old behavior....
Absolute fail.....100% fail....mark my words, mark my words fail.....
Easy to get Mexico to pay for the wall - it sure was, huh Donnie - another 100% fail.....
Almost three years now and no wall built - what a loser - and why no wall for two years when Paul, Mitch and Donnie had all the strings?
Where you choose to live...
starpunk
And neither should anybody else! America doesn't need one or even want one. Trump is a blockheaded obsessed criminal who even resorts to kidnapping and caging of children in concentration camps. He is an obstinate stubborn immature fascist who cannot be negotiated with. He must be removed from office before he causes more trouble because that's all he knows what to do!
Peter14
Clearly the Democrats are working in America's best interests by NOT cooperating with your President who is a right wing nut job. Complaining that the democrats wont help the President just show the world that there is still hope for America and its future.
In January 1933, Hitler became Chancellor of Germany but his real aim was to become a dictator. Before he could realise his ambition, he needed to gain enough seats to be in a position strong enough to allow him to make the changes that would lead to his goal. He convinced President Hindenburg to call a new Reichstag election for March 1933. This set off a series of events that ended with Hitler becoming Führer.
This shows that it is correct for the Democrats and as many Republicans who actually love America, to block Trump as often as possible lest he become an American Dictator which is his dream. If you thought the Nazi's were bad, how much worse would a Fuhrer Trump be to Hitler?