Philippine president offers a deal to China: Stop sea aggression and I'll return missiles to US

A sound proposal but China is fully belligerent under Xi, at least if you believe he controls his armed forces.

Beijing views Bongbong as a proxy.

JJEToday  07:44 am JST

Beijing views Bongbong as a proxy.

Then they need such a nonsense position corrected: the Philippines has 100% UN recognition.

Once again there is not the slightest amount of credibility of what the government of Philippines is saying.

Just need to check who Bongbong father is (Ferdinando Marcos, a dictator with a dubious past to say the least, shielded conveniently by the United States), and what kind of investment the US administration is doing in the country: billions and billions of dollars of infrastructure for warmongering (go figure) to please, guess who, the big industrial military complex:

https://apnews.com/article/us-philippines-china-military-typhon-midrange-missile-system-69242b99335eb55032894fbc83d75135

So this boils down to Jr. President Marcos bargaining with missiles his country does not have the ability to build on its own. The Philippines didn't pay for the missiles. These missiles could be recalled by Trump tomorrow. What amazing state craft, Bong Bong!

FosToday 09:55 am JST

Once again there is not the slightest amount of credibility of what the government of Philippines is saying.

No amount of gaslighting can disguise the video, damaged ships, and injured coast guardsmen. China shouldn't even be in these areas.

deanzaZZRToday 10:33 am JST

So this boils down to Jr. President Marcos bargaining with missiles his country does not have the ability to build on its own. The Philippines didn't pay for the missiles. These missiles could be recalled by Trump tomorrow. What amazing state craft, Bong Bong!

But Marcos is capable of ordering them removed, rendering your argument quite pointless.

As much as the the US administration is trying to flare up tensions in the continent, part of their warmongering strategy against China, those images shoot by Filipinos fishermen have no credibility, Not trustworthy like previous attempts which we already mentioned

“Let them stop everything they’re doing and I’ll return all of those,” he said.

This is actually an overly-generous offer from Marcos. He is saying to China, "Just follow international law and I'll reduce our defenses, even though you won't have to reduce yours."

He's not asking for anything beyond what China should already be doing.

The problem is, of course, that China is a rogue state that doesn't respect international law, so the chances of it complying with its obligations are zero.

He is trying to pretend his father didn't order the invasion and occupation of a Taiwan province SCS island 1971, annexing it in 1978.

He is also trying to pretend that island is covered by the staged UNCLOS claim, which it isn't.

His trying to pretend he is some position to make/honour any deal regarding the weapons of his master, which he isn't.

He is trying to pretend someone out there takes him seriously, which no one serious does.

I simply knew dear Isabella would show up. I wonder why? Bong Bong Junior has nothing to offer as a bargaining chip because the Philippines does not own the missiles. The Philippines does not control the satellites system needed to guide the missiles. Heck, the Philippines does not even have the proverbial thumb on the launch button. Same as it ever was.

Let us also remind the readers here that the U.S. controls about 800 military bases in more than 90 countries worldwide, as opposed to 3 or 4 of China globally. And yet the US military-industrial complex narrative wants us to believe it’s China and Russia that seek world domination and are the biggest threat to world peace, not the United States.

As a fact the US is trying to advance its "Indo-Pacific" strategy to contain China, fanning the flames in the Korean Peninsula, Taiwan Straits and South China Sea.

Filipinos fisherman stories are party of the manipulative narrative of the US State department

deanzaZZRToday 02:15 pm JST

Bong Bong Junior has nothing to offer as a bargaining chip because the Philippines does not own the missiles.

Doesn't change the fact that China is, as ever, violating international law.

And the Philippines will likely own the missiles in the next couple of years anyway.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/23/philippines-angers-china-with-plans-to-buy-us-typhon-missile-system

JJEToday 02:14 pm JST

He is trying to pretend

He is trying to pretend nothing.

He is asking China to respect international law.

FosToday 01:21 pm JST

As much as the the US administration is trying to flare up tensions in the continent, part of their warmongering strategy against China, those images shoot by Filipinos fishermen have no credibility, Not trustworthy like previous attempts which we already mentioned

I'm glad you have such a high opinion of Filipino AI and CG.

Let us also remind the readers here that the U.S. controls about 800 military bases in more than 90 countries worldwide, as opposed to 3 or 4 of China globally. And yet the US military-industrial complex narrative wants us to believe it’s China and Russia that seek world domination and are the biggest threat to world peace, not the United States.

As a fact the US is trying to advance its "Indo-Pacific" strategy to contain China, fanning the flames in the Korean Peninsula, Taiwan Straits and South China Sea.

Filipinos fisherman stories are party of the manipulative narrative of the US State department

Let us also remind the readers here that this is pure gaslight as the conflict is between Peking and Manila.

JJEToday 02:14 pm JST

He is trying to pretend his father didn't order the invasion and occupation of a Taiwan province SCS island 1971, annexing it in 1978.

I'm impressed you managed to get a skirt comment in even this nonsense.

He is also trying to pretend that island is covered by the staged UNCLOS claim, which it isn't.

That's okay, the water 1 foot off shore is covered.

His trying to pretend he is some position to make/honour any deal regarding the weapons of his master, which he isn't.

He is in a position to have the weapons removed.

He is trying to pretend someone out there takes him seriously, which no one serious does.

He's taken more seriously than a madman who violated four international agreements for his war of aggression.

deanzaZZRToday 02:15 pm JST

I simply knew dear Isabella would show up. I wonder why? Bong Bong Junior has nothing to offer as a bargaining chip because the Philippines does not own the missiles. The Philippines does not control the satellites system needed to guide the missiles. Heck, the Philippines does not even have the proverbial thumb on the launch button. Same as it ever was.

Are you under the impression that he cannot order them off of Filipino territory?

Reality check: United States of America military spending in 2023 was over $910 billions, 3 times as much as China, based on the statistics from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.

Given the US has surrounded China with dozens of hostile military bases, no-one should be surprised that Beijing has responded to a growing sovereign threat. 

That America holding war games in those waters halfway around the world from it is miraculously not threatening, but China holding regular patrols practically in sight of Chinese territory is seems rather an illogical proposition.

The only military risk that we face from China is if we continue as a proxy for the US in its endless wars

FosToday 04:16 pm JST

Reality check: United States of America military spending in 2023 was over $910 billions, 3 times as much as China, based on the statistics from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.

Given the US has surrounded China with dozens of hostile military bases, no-one should be surprised that Beijing has responded to a growing sovereign threat. 

That America holding war games in those waters halfway around the world from it is miraculously not threatening, but China holding regular patrols practically in sight of Chinese territory is seems rather an illogical proposition.

The only military risk that we face from China is if we continue as a proxy for the US in its endless wars

And yet the topic of the article is not the US. Perhaps you need more bolding to make this relevant.

Assertions about Philippines skirmishes are completely fabricated, and even if 1% were true do not justify the anti-Beijing hysteria of the US administration.

Asia welcomes China because China is part of Asia, that would be the starting point of any conversation.

Are you under the impression he doesn't take his marching orders from above?

FosToday 05:25 pm JST

Assertions about Philippines skirmishes are completely fabricated, and even if 1% were true do not justify the anti-Beijing hysteria of the US administration.

Video, damaged ships, and injured coastguardsmen are not fabrications. China shouldn't even be in these waters.

Asia welcomes China because China is part of Asia, that would be the starting point of any conversation.

Asia fears China and that would be the starting point of any conversation.

JJEToday 05:37 pm JST

Are you under the impression he doesn't take his marching orders from above?

100% UN recognized Philippines is in control over its own territory.

Let's be honest with ourselves - everyone knows it was and still is a colony.

JJEToday 05:51 pm JST

Let's be honest with ourselves - everyone knows it was and still is a colony.

Let's be honest with ourselves: at this point russia is basically a colony. Extractive activities only are permitted.

Fos...agree that Asia recognises China because China is Asian.

This identification, as "Asian ", resonates with Asian people.

USA dominance not so much.

Tide is turning, American interests are on the outgoing tide.

GuruMickToday 05:53 pm JST

Tide is turning, American interests are on the outgoing tide.

Reserve currency as strong as it has been for decades and China is greying every day. Some unfortunate few may have to send tribute to emperor Xi but not everybody.

FosToday 05:25 pm JST

Asia welcomes China because China is part of Asia

You love that copy-paste, don't you? Then, I'll return the favor yet again:

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What utterly ridiculous logic.

Does Asia welcome North Korea because it is in Asia? Did China welcome Imperial Japan because it was in Asia? Laughable.

Copy paste good....anti China bad....clear now ?

Xi is doing better at destroying China than anyone outside the country.