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Primusinter
Russians don't care much about the word "European". European or not, it makes no difference for them. How Siberians, Uralians or residents of Buryatia call themselves? Russian are Russians, remember, they are Russian and that's it. This is a separate word, unrelated to Europe or Asia.
Primusinter
theFu, you tell me about about social benefits in Russia:))))) LOL
You are right, but all the benefits are for the citizens, not for migrants. Migrants don't get anything, no social habitation, no cash benefits. They only get the right to work after getting a license for a year.
Russia does not let refugees in! Only Ukrainians, after strict filtering.
No other refugees! I think it's right.
theFu
Ask any Russian, they are European.
Russia provides lots and lots of social benefits to citizens, especially those maimed in Ukraine.
You can read more about Russian social benefits here: https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-war-ukraine-wages-poverty-prosperity/32988390.html War-related industry salaries are up 20-60%. Soldiers get signing bonuses. If they die, their heirs get a bonus AND monthly payments. Lots of social programs in Russia, especially for strong men willing to aid the war in Ukraine.
Monthly salaries are about $700 for normal factory workers. If they become a soldier, they will get a bonus of $7500. For a family struggling, that's almost 1 yr salary up-front.
So much of the Russia economy is tied to their war effort that it is THE main solution that Putin uses to keep the Russian economy going.
Primusinter
Quite right! But male migrants from Africa want to be Europeans:)
They want to receive social benefits and not work. In Russia migrants must work. Moreover, laws are being drafted according to which migrants cannot bring their families, numerous wives and children with them. Russia has its own problems with migrants. So, keep the Africans, Syrians and Afghans chez vous, for yourself.
theFu
Russia has lots of unused land. Just sayin.
Sven Asai
At best outcome, this is only postponing the game over final results. If they are denied entry to Poland / EU now in sizes of thousands or hundred thousands, that will also lead to the same overtaking effect, only a few years postponed. They will gather anywhere again and then just overrun the borders in millions or tens of millions later. And that cannot be handled anymore with some harsher rules, restrictions or border closures. It's like choosing between drinking a little sip of a poisoned drink everyday or drinking some later not the whole bottle at once but then five bottles.
M1984FA
You can not compare refugees from neighbouring Ukraine to the millions of mostly young, male migrants from Afrika and the Middle East travelling half around the world to claim asylum status. Different demographic, different problems.
wallace
3 million Ukraine people are in Poland.
"Until July 2023, 12 million Ukrainians returned from Poland to Ukraine. At mid-2023 there are ˃3 million Ukrainian citizens living in Poland, including at least 1.3 million economic migrants who had arrived before Russian invasion and 1.8 million war refugees who crossed the Polish border after February 2022."
Refugees from Ukraine are mainly women and children.
M1984FA
theFu
Poland actually takes way too few, according to the EU. The EU is pressuring Poland to accept hundreds of thousands more according to their distribution scheme. Looking at the results of this in Western Europe, Poland is resisting, which is a huge conflict with the EU. The trickle from Belarus is nothing compared to what the EU wants to send.
theFu
Poland has certainly taken in more than their share of asylum seekers. There's a point where no more can be accepted. Better to say no, than have people sleeping on streets and crime increases out of desperation when there aren't any more govt aid/funds to support new people arriving.