Polanski loses first round in extradition battle

The guy is sick and should be in jail.

Good. Start packing your bags Roman.

He is indeed a criminal and pervert.

House arrest is too good for him because for him it would be "mansion arrest" - complete with jacuzzi, home cinema and waterbed.

This guy really committed a serious crime - not only was the victim underaged, but 13 years old, quite a bit underaged. And he performed sodomy on her which was probably unlubricated and quite painful.

I expect though in the US he'll only get a couple of months jail time. I only hope there he'll get to experience unlubricated sodomy himself, as receiver rather than giver.

A crime was committed, the perp identified, he has been at large for over 30 years. Neither time, nor the accused's wealth/fame/power/popularity, nor the victim's forgiveness, should change the fact that justice should be served whenever possible. I thought Polanski and the underaged girl had consensual sex. That he gave her alcohol and a quaalude before raping and sodomizing her makes this much worse. Hey, great artists in the past have committed crimes and been punished for it. Now this pathetic pervert wants to get out because of his film-making skill? No way! Just think of it as an artistically developing experience, all those years in jail..

extradite his ass!!!!!

if he just taken his medicine and served out his sentence in the US at the time which was too lenient to begin with, he wouldn't have been arrested. justice is served.

Indeed Polanski is scum and deserves punishment for his terrible actions, but I wonder about the timing. He drugged and raped the girl a long time ago, why arrest him now? Could it have anything to do with his next move?

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/film/article6856134.ece

One of next year’s most eagerly anticipated films, a star-studded thriller featuring a thinly disguised version of Tony Blair, is in jeopardy because of the arrest of Roman Polanski.

Sources on the production of The Ghost, about a British prime minister facing indictment for war crimes...

The Ghost follows the story of a ghost writer, played by Ewan McGregor, whose research into the former British leader, thought to be modelled on Mr Blair, for his memoirs leads to dangerous revelations

Maybe some people are worried about that movie coming out.

sabiwabi,

He drugged and raped the girl a long time ago, why arrest him now? Could it have anything to do with his next move?

Which is it? Do you want him to face justice or not? He was arrested when the Swiss had a chance to arrest him. You have stated you think it is right he was arrested. Now you seem to be almost complaining about it because you seem to agree with some movie is plans to put out. Pretty strange stance, especially since, in another discussion about Polanski, you seem to be berating those that paid to see his movies. Does this mean you like those same people to pay for this one?

Anyway, I am glad the man will be put on trial.

kinniku,

He was arrested when the Swiss had a chance to arrest him.

Are you saying this is the first time he set foot in that country? I believe he even has a residence there. They certainly had many chances to arrest him before, so why now?

Nothing strange with my stance if you're able to think a little.

sabiwabi,

They certainly had many chances to arrest him before, so why now?

According to the Swiss government themselves, they were not aware of his presence in the country and regret using now apparent earlier chances to arrest him. In addition, apparently there has only been an international warrent for his arrest since 2005.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/switzerland/6259535/Roman-Polanski-Swiss-regret-not-making-arrest-earlier.html#

Anyway, you are right, your stance is not unusal if I think about it a bit. You saw the first articles about Polanski and read something about his family being in Nazi camps and that and that alone seems to have spark your original interest. Now you are torn between that and your obsession with your current conspiracy. It must be difficult.

I, on the other hand, have not conspiracy obsessions to worry about and so from the beginning thought the man was scum and am glad he was arrested.

Sorry, that should have been:

According to the Swiss government themselves, they were not aware of his presence in the country and regret not using now apparent earlier chances to arrest him.

According to the Swiss government themselves...

Yes, we all know that governments are very honest and never lie.

You saw the first articles about Polanski and read something about his family being in Nazi camps and that and that alone seems to have spark your original interest.

No, what sparked my interest is that a man who drugged and raped a 13 year old was being defended by so many people, and he had been awarded many prizes. You seem to be reading into it a wee bit too much. For you, it seems any attack against a jew must come from some irrational racist hatred.

I often notice people doing something I like getting arrested for unrelated and sometimes old things. Another that comes to mind is James Traficant.

sabiwabi,

Yes, we all know that governments are very honest and never lie.

Unless you have some specific, provable proof of a lie on the part of the Swiss government, one can only assume this is again just another fantasy on your part.

For you, it seems any attack against a jew must come from some irrational racist hatred.

Not at all. Attacks from you are an entirely different kettle of fish however. Polanski is a creep and he deserves to be tried. I have already said this specifically and clearly. However, remembering your 'kosher tax' canard from yesterday, I tend to think that you react more on the religion of people rather than on the actions of said people. Your flip flopping around now is evidence of this.

I often notice people doing something I like getting arrested for unrelated and sometimes old things.

Again, what a strange thing to write. in another Polanski discussion, you basically said you wish to condemn people who paid to see Polanski's movies to join him in jail and you seemed so happy he was arrested. Now suddenly because you found out he is making a movie you like you decide to complain about him being arrested now? Sorry, it does not make sense. The man is a pig and it would have been a good thing before and it can only be a good thing now too that he goes to trial. Would you have him stay out of jail just to finish your movie? You sound like those who you complain about defending him.

BTW, James Traficant was a nut, plain and simple. Hardly surprising you would decide to champion him as well.

Your flip flopping around now is evidence of this.

How so? How can my wondering about the timing of his arrest be considered evidence that my initial attacks of Polanski we because he is Jewish. I focused on his actions only, that he drugged and raped a 13 year-old girl. You brought up his Jewishness, not me.

As for the Kosher tax from the other thread, once again you completely misunderstood my point, and you just saw it as an attack against Jews; it wasn't!

Now suddenly because you found out he is making a movie you like you decide to complain about him being arrested now? Sorry, it does not make sense.

It does not make sense, because that is not what I said. ONLY YOU could have interpreted it that way.

I started that post with: "Indeed Polanski is scum and deserves punishment for his terrible actions, but I wonder about the timing. He drugged and raped the girl a long time ago, why arrest him now?"

How is that a complaint? Did I state that he should not be arrested? No!

As for James Traficant, why is he a nut? One thing for sure, though, is that if it wasn't for Traficant, a man would have been wrongly executed, nobody else in congress dared to get involved with the case. Seems some people never forgave him for it.

He drugged and raped the girl a long time ago, why arrest him now" I couldn't care less! If it were my daughter, sister, mother, heck even your kid, I'd still want him to get slammed.

Actually, I'm appalled at all the Hollywood people, who are always screaming for justice on this and that, want to give this guy a pass. Once in jail, I hope he gets sodomized himself. All his films, as good as they all, funds should go into a charity for girls who have been victimized by such crimes. Once he is broke, I'd like to see who in Hollywood would stand up for him then.

sabiwabi,

You brought up his Jewishness, not me.

True.　However, since you rarely comment on discussions that do not pertain to Jews, it certainly stands as likely that his religion and or the fact that someone in his family died in the Nazi camps features heavily in your desire to comment. Your history speak for itself on that regard.

Interesting that you really don't seem to blame the French government for all these years that he was allowed to live in France unfettered. Laughingly, you seem to be blaming, of all people, the Swiss for finally arresting the guy.

As for the Kosher tax from the other thread, once again you completely misunderstood my point, and you just saw it as an attack against Jews; it wasn't!

Yes, it most certainly was an attack and it was you who brought the Jewish religion into that discussion, both showing your lack of knowledge of both Islam, Judaism, Halal and Kashrut all in one basket. In addition, you presented a complete canard with regard to what you completely incorrectly referred to as a 'kosher tax'.

How is that a complaint? Did I state that he should not be arrested? No!

You are whining about the 'timing', when he was in France for years. The Swiss arrested him when they knew he would be in the country even going so far as to warn the US. It is obvious they wanted to arrest him and would have done so earlier had they known he was there before. You have absolutely no proof whatsoever (as usual) of your conspiracy.

As for James Traficant, why is he a nut?

I dunno. Maybe he was dropped on his head when he was a baby? That would explain the strange stuff that came out of his mouth. Hey, David Duke likes him, so I guess that might explain Traficant's appeal to you too, huh? BTW, I have no idea what person you imagine he saved, but I think you are confused.

Anyway, bottom line again, good on the Swiss government for holding on to this guy. He should have gone on trial a long time ago and now he will.

skip,

I couldn't care less! If it were my daughter, sister, mother, heck even your kid, I'd still want him to get slammed.

Exactly. Well said. It is amazing that someone would want to complain about timing when someone who hurt a minor in that way finally gets arrested.

***They certainly had many chances to arrest him before, so why now?

Have you ever been to Swiss ? I went there from France hundreds of time, I just passed the border in a car, on a bicycle or walking, nobody asked me anything. In years, they checked my identity 2 or 3 times in total. Same for everybody.

This time, that was different for Polanski because he was going to attend an event announced in media. If (and they surely did)the US authorities gave a call to Swiss ones, they couldn't say "We don't know when he arrives and where...". At least, they didn't get him on the festival stage in front of cameras.

Then, the US justice has more actively researched him since the recent interventions of his lawyers. Last year, he sent them to tell the judges roughly : "You'll never have the balls to come to arrest me.". He got what he asked for.

I find his druging and raping the girl was a serious crime, but that's not my job to judge of the circumstances. OTOH, he used his celebrity and money to run away from the justice of a democratic country. That's a public matter. Especially when the guy and his friend come to speak in media to teach others about politics, democracy, justice, etc. They said that US and Swiss cops are like the Nazi that arrested Polanski's family. That's really indecent. That's even insulting for all the innocent persons victims of the Nazi regimes to compare them with a pedophile that refuses to face his trial.

Once in jail, I hope he gets sodomized himself

You can hope what you want, but vindictiveness gets you nowhere. And it certainly does not even come close to any kind of justice.

I did not actually realise how beastly this attack was until recently. How people can defend this ghastly man is beyond me.

I hope he serves some hard time in America, the dirty bleeder deserves it, nasty, nasty, nasty!!!

After 30 years they decide to arrest him, absolutely rediculous. His victim has said he doesn't belong in jail, as far as we know he hasn't ever done it again and he has lived in plain site for years. I smell a DA who wants to make a name for himself just like Sneddon who tried to take down Michael Jackson. I certainly don't approve of his behavior but after this many years there is something else going on here.

One of the lawyers, Herve Temime, added that Polanski did not pose a flight risk.

How does that saying go again? Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...

However, since you rarely comment on discussions that do not pertain to Jews, it certainly stands as likely that his religion and or the fact that someone in his family died in the Nazi camps features heavily in your desire to comment.

BS, I comment on many different subjects. But for some reason, you seem to come whining every time it involves someone who happens to be Jewish and you paste the same list of statements about Jews that you claim (in many cases falsely) that I have made in the past YEARS.

As for the kosher tax, it seems you still did not get my post.

Moderator: All readers back on topic please.

I certainly don't approve of his behavior but after this many years there is something else going on here.

I too suspect there might be something else. Things are not always what they seem. It might be because of his next film, The Ghost.

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/artsandentertainment/film/article6856134.ece

One of next year’s most eagerly anticipated films, a star-studded thriller featuring a thinly disguised version of Tony Blair, is in jeopardy because of the arrest of Roman Polanski.

Sources on the production of The Ghost, about a British prime minister facing indictment for war crimes...

The Ghost follows the story of a ghost writer, played by Ewan McGregor, whose research into the former British leader, thought to be modelled on Mr Blair, for his memoirs leads to dangerous revelations

Maybe some people are worried about that movie coming out.

sabiwabi,

You are again being ridiculous. It obviously has nothing to do with Polanski's movie. He knowing drugged and forced a minor to have sex. He was arrested when he was known to be in Switzerland. That you would make up conspiracies even here when it is obviously a very good thing he was arrested just shows how deep your slip from reality has taken you. BTW, please provide even one false quote that you claim I have provided of yours. Of course, you will not be able to as I also always provide the correct date of your posts in which your statements about Jews can be found. Lastly, I 'get' your kosher tax comment, just fine. You were plainly and again incorrectly blaming Jews for the 'higher prices' of products.

It might be because of his next film, The Ghost.

Again, yeah, it could never be about the international arrest warrant since 2005 or the fact that he knowingly drugged and forced a minor to have sex. If you truly think that what it might be about. You really need to get out of your room every once in a while.

Again, yeah, it could never be about the international arrest warrant since 2005 or the fact that he knowingly drugged and forced a minor to have sex.

Hey, I've said from the start that he should be arrested and deserves punishment. I am just wondering why now? The guy has a residence in Switzerland, I assume he goes there from time to time. Why did they wait until 2005 to issue this warrant?

I think there MIGHT be a conspiracy, while you are always so absolutely 100% sure there never is one (e.g., that the current financial problems are due to honest mistakes).

I am just wondering why now?

I am just wondering why you wonder about things instead of thinking about them. The facts are right in front of you. If you want to know why he wasn't arrested in France all this time, join the club or ask the government of France why they harbored him. Yes, I know he is a citizen, however considering the crime, one would think France and the French people would have wanted him to face trial. It seems they did not.

The guy has a residence in Switzerland, I assume he goes there from time to time. Why did they wait until 2005 to issue this warrant?

You assume. You suspect. You imagine. You concoct. The US has wanted him from the beginning. It was an international arrest warrant in 2005, not a US one. The Swiss knew he would be in the country and they arrested him. Do you have proof they knew of previous visits? Nope, you do not. If you did you would have already shared them with us.

I think there MIGHT be a conspiracy,

Heh, you missed typing a word: You always think there might be a conspiracy. BTW, I never said the current financial problems were only due to honest mistakes. I merely said they had absolutely nothing to do with a Jewish/Mossad/Israeli/ blah, blah,blah conspiracy.

The US has wanted him from the beginning. It was an international arrest warrant in 2005, not a US one.

Yes, but my question was why 2005. The crime happened a very long time before that.

Hey, it could very well be a coincidence that, after decades of living freely in Europe, he got arrested while he was putting the finishing touch on a movie about Blair facing war crime charges. Or it might not be a coincidence, I just raised the possibility. Just like I mentioned a while back that I thought the moon-landing MIGHT have been faked, which you constantly misrepresent as my stating that they WERE faked.

I still don’t see how you can always be 100% sure of things regardless of the evidence, it seems you go with whatever happens to suit you and your friends.

Moderator: Stay on topic please. References to the moon landing and the movie about Blair are not relevant to this discussion.

Yes, but my question was why 2005. The crime happened a very long time before that.

Possibly because the US could not get international agreement on it. Have you even attempted to research the process behind the warrant. No, why do that when you can instead, as you always seem to do, immediately jump to the silly conclusion that there is a conspiracy.

You do represent your opinions on your fantastic conspiracies as fact and you often claim that others are blind to these 'facts'. This is true about pretty much any of your ridiculous claims that always end up proving to be incorrect on close examination.

I still don’t see how you can always be 100% sure of things regardless of the evidence

Don't you get it? You haven't provided any evidence. You have merely provided another one of your fantastically unrealistic conspiracies to throw on the pile of the tons of others you have provided over the years. It is quite easy to be 100% or pretty close to 100% sure that you are mistaken when you consistently are unable to provide solid, clear, provable and specific evidence to back up your conspiracies.

it seems you go with whatever happens to suit you and your friends.

Please. I am very consistent. I am glad he has been arrested. I would have been glad had he been arrested years ago. You cannot even back up this very ridiculous statement.

It seems you're responding to posts without even reading them.

Ummm...yes, I read your posts quite carefully. Have you? I don't think you have. Let's see, shall we?

it could very well be a coincidence that, after decades of living freely in Europe,

Was he living freely in Switzerland? If you don't know, have no proof whatsoever, or if the answer is 'no', then your sentence makes no sense because that is where he got arrested. Was there an arrest warrant for him in France all these years? The answer is no.

You are constantly raising the possibility of such fantastically unrealistic conspiracies and if someone dare say something against your 'theories', they get called a 'shill', a member of a criminal syndicate or some such name. Hardly the attitude of someone who is just raising possibilities. Rather, it sounds exactly like someone who is completely married to their conspiracies.

Maybe I will look into it a little more.

LOL! Maybe you should consider doing that first for a change!

The bottom line is that I have been completely consistent in my feeling that it is a good thing that Polanski was arrested and will face a trial. You only feel that way as long as it doesn't bang into a conspiracy you have cooked up. Then, it is 'why now of all times!" LOL! At least you are consistent in your inconsistency.

In the past several months to years, he and his lawyers have been trying to get this case dropped on the grounds that the trial was flawed and that the judge did not rule fairly in that he, the judge, renegade on a plea bargain and so he fled to france.

US justice has more actively researched him since the recent interventions of his lawyers. Last year, he sent them to tell the judges roughly : "You'll never have the balls to come to arrest me.". He got what he asked for.

What a dumb move by Polanski and his lawyers. Since he's already old, if he kept quiet and stay low profile, he could've continued a comfortable, rich life in France. Now, California here I come and face the consequences.