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© Copyright 2022 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.Police: Man who killed 6 at Walmart in Virginia was store manager
By ALEX BRANDON and BEN FINLEY CHESAPEAKE, Va©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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wallace
bass4funk
It's an American sickness.
It is a sickness. Since the start of the Putin war in Ukraine, 40,000 civilians have been killed. The same number of Americans were killed by gunshots last year. Only about 47% of Americans own guns. None in my large American family own one.
But since gun registration is only required in 14 states exact figures are difficult. You do not live in America full-time.
Who will be next? Only 14 states have gun registrations.
Gun registration is by the State. So why are you opposed to even this simple law?
You trust the government on a very wide range of personal info. Births, deaths, and marriages. Education, Driving license. Passport. Travel destinations. Taxes. Homeownership. Living outside the USA. Criminal records. The governments already know everything about you.
bass4funk
Very true.
Well, there is no law that states you have to hate guns or how many you can have.
No, it’s true based on countless cases.
No, it’s always the case, if the person had been white and a conservative and or a Trump supporter the condemnation from the left would be off the charts, but since it’s not, silence reigns for the most part.
Nemo
The idea that gun control advocates (who are usually Democrats) only care about mass shootings when the shooter is a white supremacist or a homophobe is a popular troupe amongst the far right.
But it is as untrue as most of their other claims (stolen elections, jewish space lasers, etc.).
It is a deflection tool to distract from the fact that the GQP is unwilling to do anything to lessen gun violence in any meaningful way because the cult that supports it demand unlimited access to high capacity assault weapons to empower their "Freedumb" against the government (as if a couple of beer-gutted goobers has any chance against even a state guard...)
Nemo
Says you.
Gun owner here. Anyone, ANYONE who claims to own 25 separate firearms and talks about loving them all equally has an issue.
bass4funk
it’s not a sickness, I own a multitude of guns, and I’m not sick and millions of Americans that own guns as well, as all law-abiding Americans are not sick, when liberals make those kinds of comments, it’s no wonder people that love and honor the 2nd Amendment don’t want to engage these people.
No gun registrations needed and it depends on the states, most people would never trust the government, especially this tyrannical government with any of our private information, no way!
bass4funk
Well, he wasn’t a white supremacist, so I don’t think the left have anything to worry about.
It is sad indeed
Exactly, and thank God for that right to exist.
Rodney
Of course I blame US gun laws/availability, but in this (another) gun massacre, it seems personal and I think no innocent customers in the wrong place at the wrong time were murdered. Only good point in this sad incident.
wallace
It's an American sickness. Who will be next? Only 14 states have gun registrations.
Yrral
Lincoln man gun nuts obsession with a gun is a mental disease
Yrral
Do help their sales,this will cause Walmart 100 of million in liability,even for people that were not shot
OnTheTrail
Lincolnman, thank you for the reply and for your service. Person to person sales are also legal here, providing the multitude of other conditions are met. I don't believe that these sales are the driving issue for weekend rampant murders in cities or the all too common mass shootings.
I would be open to a real discussion on how to remove firearms from the US, but not a conversation with subterfuge that the goal is not to eliminate personal ownership rights, which invariably it has to be.
Nemo
Should be "woeful intransigence"
Apologies
lincolnman
I am a long time firearms enthusiast - I am also a 27 year military veteran who used a variety of firearms during that career.
In Ohio under the current law, only licensed firearms suppliers are required to conduct a background check. If a person purchases a firearm from a private individual or unlicensed dealer, no background check is required nor a waiting period
*Ohio does not require a waiting period prior to purchasing a gun and only requires background checks for guns purchased from federally licensed dealers. If you buy from a private seller or unlicensed dealership, you are not required to have a background check.*
Therefore, in Ohio, a mentally unstable person could easily purchase a firearm from as a private transaction...as there is no procedure required in these cases to verify their status...
OnTheTrail
I am a long time gun owner, I have a concealed carry license, I have bought guns at retail establishments and gun shows, even with the prior background check based on my license it is a very lengthy process running through the FBI checks. Have you had a different experience without any checks? A certified mental ward patient would not legally be able to buy a weapon.
Honestly, the only way to close to eliminate these (and the weekly deviation in US cities) is to repeal the 2nd amendment, have extreme boarder controls (can't keep illegal drugs out now), make possession of a weapon a major felony with mandatory 15 year+ sentence and outlaw production of ammunition. All of those, not a couple or some, will have the desired effect.
An honest conversation will start with these, the current, "common sense", "we don't want to take your guns", is BS, state what will fix the problem and then fight for it.
Cards fan
Wrong again. Just because a defense attorney claims something doesn't make it turn.
Did anyone see the interview with the alleged shooter's father?
lincolnman
Mass shootings are and will continue to be a routine part of American life as long as we elect Repub gun worshipers to office - vote them all out!
Then institute common sense gun control measures that even a majority of NRA members approve of...
Ban assault weapons - we did it before and can do it again. Only permit them to be owned by a very small percentage of real gun enthusiasts; collectors, etc. Other than those, the only people that want an assault weapon are those bent on conducting a mass shooting or need the "biggest" gun to compensate for their lack of self esteem and feelings of helplessness. It's the only thing in their small lives that gives them a sense of power...
Don't fall for the over-the-top fear tactics of the far-right - no one is saying anything about the Second Amendment - gun ownership is in the Constitution - and lawful gun ownership is a right. But not mass guns for anyone without any background check/training, age restriction, gun show loopholes, etc...
Now in Ohio any nut can buy a handgun and carry it concealed without a background check, permit or any training...think about that... Ohio requires drivers training for a drivers license but nothing for gun ownership. So the guy next to you and your kids in McDonalds may be certified mentally ill and just out of the mental ward but is packing a 9mm...and isn't happy his Big Mac is taking so long to make...
It's utter craziness...
dagon
There used to be horrific high-profile assassinations in the US and few mass shootings.
Now high profile assassinations are rare and the average American lives with the danger of mass shootings at school and work.
Coincidence? Just asking questions.
Yrral
Being the manager,he had assets too the gun a
Nemo
Reset to “Thoughts and Prayers” mode again. The mass murders are coming so fast now, I fear we may not leave this phase anytime soon.
6 more innocent victims dead. 6 more families for whom the holidays will never be the same again, ever.
And one party, financially backed by a coalition of gun manufacturers known as the NRA, and embracing a view of the 2nd Amendment that Nixon appointee Justice Brennon judged “A fraud perpetrated upon the American public” thinks that mass-death by sheer random chance is the price if “Freedumb.”
Bob Fosse
No criminal record and a legally owned gun again?