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Those calling for violence against the police deserve zero respect and everything they're gonna get.

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https://youtu.be/9xNxoeqf0Ws

Lots of destructive hate out there now and this only emboldens the criminals in their community more. = People think they have a constitutional "right to violence"

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Obama has done a very bad job,,,,talking with black lives matter ,,and putting down the Police

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Douglas MacarthyJUL. 10, 2016 - 02:45PM JST Obama has done a very bad job...and putting down the Police

This never actually happened.

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Obama has done a very bad job,,,,talking with black lives matter ,,and putting down the Police

Could you provide actual evidence that Obama has ever 'put down the police'? Or is that just how you have chosen to interpret comments he's made so they fit your socio-political perspective. Or is your intent in posting to just make another smash and run comment.

And please explain why he shouldn't talk with BLM. Or is your intent in posting to just make another smash and run comment.

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Obama has done a very bad job...and putting down the Police

This never actually happened.

I think they must be telling them this in the bubble.

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" How many roads must a man walk down before he's called a man..." The first stanza of the song " blowing in the wind" sung by Bob Dylan and Sam Cooke. A human being has finite tolerance to abuse, systemic or otherwise. One day a straw broke the camel's back.

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The root cause of violence among young black folks is the lack of social skills being taught to these youth, including work ethic, moral character and respect for authority... Memo to BLM: Get your own house in order and drop the attitude before you start lecturing the rest of the country.

Moderator: Please leave your bigotry off this discussion board.

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Obama has done a very bad job...and putting down the Police

This never actually happened.

"I don't know, not being there and not seeing all the facts . . . but "the Cambridge police acted stupidly."

It's all been downhill ever since.

Obama came into the Presidency as a self-declared unifier. As he departs, the country is polarized, politically and racially. Is this the legacy Mr. Obama had intended?

White cops versus black people is a narrative that has reached the end of whatever use it may have had. It offers no graceful exit for anyone. The moment has arrived for America’s leadership to say so clearly . . . because it can get worse.

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"I don't know, not being there and not seeing all the facts . . . but "the Cambridge police acted stupidly."

Interesting how you tried to take two independent statements, and try to combine them as if they were one. Very sneaky, good thing I'm here to fact-check.

The two actual statements made:

I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played

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the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home

So even though you are trying to push a narrative that Obama is pushing race-anger, his actual statement went in the opposite direction - he declined to state whether race had a factor in the issue at all. And he rightly condemned the police for arresting someone when they had already shown that they lived at the home in question.

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I've never seen a police force act so scared. Like, this is your job. This is what you've signed up for.

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Decades of systemic brutality is coming to a head. Acting violently against police who haven't acted violently is just as unjustified as police acting violently against citizens who haven't acted violently.

The decades of the "war on drugs/plants" has first created a culture of crimininalization. This is not unlike the effects of alcohol prohibition. One crucial difference is the disproportionate effects on the black community. As many decades as have been wasted creating such a negative phenomenon, a modern slavery if you will, it will take decades to fix the problem.

Non-Aggression Principle is needed on both sides.

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We really need a man like Trump in the White House so we can start the racial healing. Or at least that's the Republican plan.

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StrangerlandJUL. 10, 2016 - 09:35PM JST So even though you are trying to push a narrative that Obama is pushing race-anger, his actual statement went in the opposite direction - he declined to state whether race had a factor in the issue at all. And he rightly condemned the police for arresting someone when they had already shown that they lived at the home in question.

Excellently done. But let's go back to kabukideath's original comment:

kabukideathJUL. 10, 2016 - 09:22PM JST Obama came into the Presidency as a self-declared unifier. As he departs, the country is polarized, politically and racially. Is this the legacy Mr. Obama had intended?

So kabukideath wants to imply Obama is the cause of the nation being divided, even as he blatantly misrepresents the actual comment he wants to use as evidence for Obama's division. This is an approach the rabid partisans fighting Obama have frequently used. They want him to be a bad president, so they invent reasons to say he's bad, then misrepresent the facts to support their invented reasons, then when they're angry because they trick themselves into believing the misrepresentation they invented, they can pin their anger on him. It's a nifty perpetual cycle of pointless rage.

And the fact that it comes up in a thread that has nothing whatsoever to do with Obama, but is instead about systemic racism, makes it hard to not think the hatred of Obama doesn't have some kind of connection to systemic racism.

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The Black Lives Matter movement is not a law abiding peaceful one as we see. Where are they in the Chicago war zone where a black people are shot daily. Instead they target INNOCENT police and still chant the " Hands Up Don't Shoot" slogan proven to be lie.

I'm with the police. As a kid we hated the police, we also did things the police wanted to arrest us when they caught us. I'm grown up and moved on and the police have a tough job in never knowing what type of person they may stop for minor traffic infractions or simple daily interactions. This blanket hate for police stems from those who haven't grown up or moved on with their lives. Sooner or later they will be in jail or have been in jail. Law abiding citizens have no fears no matter what race. Though realistic profiling does categorize some types op people. some groups of people's are less law abiding than others. When was the last time a Mormon or an Orthodox Jew was arrested for violent crimes? What about an inked up biker? Oh, and a skinhead white guy with swastikas tattooed? You see some, not all, chosen lifestyles deserve a second look.

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I'm with the police.

I'm with the police too. You seem to think it's a one or the other situation.

I'm grown up and moved on and the police have a tough job in never knowing what type of person they may stop for minor traffic infractions or simple daily interactions.

Yep, and considering white men killed more American police than any other group this year (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-cops-killed-white-men-conservatives-silent-article-1.2632965), they should be particularly weary when pulling over white people.

Law abiding citizens have no fears no matter what race.

That's incorrect. Black people in the US have cause to be afraid at every stop, regardless of whether or not they are law-abiding.

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Interesting how you tried to take two independent statements, and try to combine them as if they were one. Very sneaky, good thing I'm here to fact-check.

You really do miss the point, what was stated in-between is irrelevant. Stating that he didn’t have all the facts was all he needed to say, but he continued to opine.

Here is the reaction of law enforcement at that time:

"What we don't need is public safety officials across the country second-guessing themselves," said David Holway, president of the International Brotherhood of Police Officers, "The president's alienated public safety officers across the country with his comments."

And the fact that it comes up in a thread that has nothing whatsoever to do with Obama, but is instead about systemic racism, makes it hard to not think the hatred of Obama doesn't have some kind of connection to systemic racism.

When did simply disagreeing with Obama become an act of racism? When you see racism behind every tree, the word loses all its meaning. Your race card has been declined due to over-usage.

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This blanket hate for police stems from those who haven't grown up or moved on with their lives.

This is the kind of thinking that would dominate a political party that is 89% white. No diversity for different views and experiences.

Have you not seen the videos of cops shooting handcuffed suspects in the back? Are you aware that there's a trial going on for rough riding, a practice where groups of cops team up to torture suspects on the way to jail? Ever hear of Rampart division in Los Angeles? 70 cops. Murder, rape.

These pockets of bad cops, although small, can turn an entire community against the police, and they get away with it for years. They have special privileges in society and even when the percentage of bad ones is small they can harm a hell of a lot of people. Thinking that this just doesn't exist, and wouldn't turn some communities against the police, is just too much denial.

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The US is descending into utter mayhem and violence.

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I work from Dallas City Hall and the security has been improving for years because this kind of behavior was planned on. The very reason I want to live in Japan after I retire from the City if I live long enough.

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And he rightly condemned the police for arresting someone when they had already shown that they lived at the home in question.

He was leasing said property and was found by police breaking thru said window (locked himself out) with another when questioned by Police. The University Professor when ballistic when questioned and had to be brought in. Just because you lease a property does not give you authority for renovations. The Police made the right call in this instance and two people trying to get thru a window certainly is suspicious.

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I see the AP is still peddling the canard that the Dallas episode involved a sniper attack. It was one guy walking around with a rifle, picking off poorly-trained cops.

What I'm seeing is typical of what authoritarian regimes do. They see a group of protestors, they pick out the most dangerous ones, then they use the media to define the entire group by the radicals. That's why the average Russian thinks the Ukraine is a neo-Nazi uprising. All of the media coverage is shown through the small part of the battle involving these guys, so naturally they think that if you support breaking away from Russian influence then you're just part of that Nazi group and support violence because that's what all this is about.

You see it here with conservatives falling over themselves to tie the entire BLM group to what this guy did. They say it early and often and it's critical for their propaganda that they keep up the pressure and make that link permanent in their supporter's minds, then it won't matter if it's shown later to be untrue. It's a key piece of post-truth politics. Once that link is established then they can use it to discredit anything BLM as a whole does or says in the future, plus anyone who supports them or doesn't denounce them. You're just someone who supports that group that sends black snipers to kill cops, so there's no reason to listen to your views on race relations.

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You really do miss the point, what was stated in-between is irrelevant.

Ridiculous. What was stated in-between changes what was said altogether.

Stating that he didn’t have all the facts was all he needed to say, but he continued to opine.

Again ridiculous. I started to type out why, but I realized I'm just repeating my last post on what the meanings of what he said were.

If you think it's ok to change the meanings of what he said, to suit your own agenda, then that says what type of person you are. You don't care about how Obama actually is, you are just looking for a way to slag him.

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Orange Lives Matter. Black Labs Matter. Golden Labs Matter. White Labs Matter. Chocolate Labs Matter.

Saying that any racial group matters on the basis of race is simply racist. The deeper problem is the common disregard for the sanctity of human life itself. The rest is distraction.

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I've never seen a police force act so scared. Like, this is your job. This is what you've signed up for.

Of course they're scared. They're humans too. Look at what they're up against; the media, seasoned felons, violent gangbangers, drug addicts, mobs of thuggish protesters and radical muslims. . . . . and some people say police departments nationwide should be demilitarized. Not-

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It's quite simple. Law enforcement is paid for by the tax paying citizens in this country. The duty of law enforcement is to protect said citizens and their rights. Anyone advocating for violence against law enforcement doesn't want any kind of law whatsoever except what they can make up on the spot which is vigilantism and will most certainly not equal justice and rule of law. Mobs are usually made up of that kind of mentality.

Guess it will be easier to buy a gun now and shoot anyone that, "Looks at you funny." if they get their way. On top of this it was a jackass who was in the military. His duty was to also protect US citizens, but he's obviously failed at that as an American citizen and veteran.

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