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© Thomson Reuters 2024.Police face 'serious disorder' in British cities in wake of child murders
By Amanda Ferguson and Belinda Jiao LIVERPOOL, England/BELFAST©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
44 Comments
zibala
The obvious result when a country doesn't protect its borders.
wallace
The far-right thugs have committed violence, riots, arson, attacks against the police, and looting by hijacking the terrible killing of three young girls. Misinformation spreading hatred. Those people need to be identified and prosecuted.
Strangerland
No this is the obvious result of brexit.
zibala
wallace
How would you know if you are not there?
falseflagsteve
Wallace
Do you say the same thing when it’s ethnics rioting and looting or robbing everyone in a train carriage?
Strangerland
Little or nothing to do with Brexit, this stuff has been ongoing for decades as politicians use race as vote winners. Usually it’s the far left doing this, don’t recall much being said about the violence and looting by BLM in the U.K. Strange isn’t it?
The label far right which equates with Nazi and an Alf Garnett type is a name to justify not getting to the root causes of this issue.
There’s always a reason for people to feel this way whatever ethnicity or in whatever country. Time to end the divisions and make the country safe for all again.
Strangerland
No that’s incorrect. It’s a direct result of Brexit.
wallace
falseflagsteve
Wallace
I don't know what you are talking about. Please post links when you make comments like that.
wallace
zibala
What's happening with your borders?
falseflagsteve
Strangerland
Nope, are you British? Do you know what’s being going in there through personal experience and from friends and relatives for 5 decades? I do, so I know that this is not a direct effect of Brexit at all. You’d probably be surprised to know that many of the ‘far right’ voted Labour and against Brexit, won’t be on mainstream media thoigh.
falseflagsteve
Strangerland
Yes, it matters immensely rather than just getting your info from selected media choices.
When I was in U.K. I lived in one of the most racially diverse parts in the country, was involved in trade Union work, volunteered for 2 years with what is considered a far left political party and was involved with community work most weekends with local residents the majority being from the Sikh community.
Yeah, I think I know a bit about what’s been going on over there, thanks.
GBR48
This has nothing to do with the tragic deaths of the girls, which has been exploited by racist right-wing activists. A lot of this used to happen in the 1970s courtesy of the National Front.
Migrants were demonised during the Brexit campaign and by the Tory government that exploited them to generate votes, supported by stories in the right-wing tabloids. Then BBC (mainly local) news programmes painted a target on their backs. They ignored much larger numbers of migrants from HK and Ukraine and publicised the locations of hotels and army camps where so-called 'small boats' migrants would be placed. Maybe they were played by malicious activists, but the BBC and print media need to accept the part they played in this.
Strangerland
Are you suggesting British media isn’t available outside Britain?
And if I’m information deficient, then you could easily prove me wrong.
this is all a distraction from my point that this is a direct result of brexit.
ulysses
Deeply insightful sir, the fascist thugs robbing the shoe store were doing it to protect the borders!!!
falseflagsteve
Strangerland
I have first hand experience of what it’s like and been like in the U.K. over the last few decades.
Anyone who knows anything about U.K. first hand would tell you this problem didnt just appear due to Brexit.
You’re the only person I’ve seen who thinks this is due to Brexit and not the real reason which have been happening for decades but have increased over the last 2 decades due to massive immigration.
There have been face divides and riots for decades well before anyone though about Brexit and far more widespread and violent than these ones.
Strangerland
Long diversion to get around addressing my correct evaluation of this being a direct result of brexit
Only people who are wrong.
ulysses
Sir, I am not there and even I was moved by the sight of thugs looting Crocs from a shoe store.
Imagine a country which cannot provide Crocs to its fascists, I would be rioting too!!!
Strangerland
You first.
why should I provide more info than you did?
Any links to anyone not on the right who agree with your theory?
Mr Kipling
There is no misinformation. The number of immigrants and Islamification in some cities is obvious to the native population. Many from both sides of the political spectrum are at least uncomfortable about this. Some are saying enough is enough. They see the grooming gangs, Pakistani thugs attacking female police officers in Manchester airport and then are told 750,000 more immigrants entered the UK last year. The health service is breaking, housing cost have skyrocketed, old people have lost their winter fuel bonus but the government can find billions for hotels for asylum seekers?
Those taking to the streets are the voice of the white working class. The backbone of the country.
Fighto!
These drunken thugs rioting, attacking police and citizens, are animals. The type who attend football games purely to fight, live in welfare housing and drape themselves in Union flags at every opportunity.
The murderer of these three poor little girls was a locally-born Welshman.
wallace
The UK has had right-wing thugs and brown-shirt fascists since before WW2. Since the demise of the National Front, the English Defense League has been more quiet.
falseflagsteve
Strangerland
Ha ha.
‘You do know what the main issue that people voted for Brexit were don’t you? Obviously not I’d say.
The main issues were the promise that leaving the U.K. would lead to less red tape, Britain would financially improve from not having to pay towards the poorer EU nations. People were hoodwinked by Boris that the NHS would have a huge increase in funds if Britain left the EU.
Brexit was that, very little talk about immigration, none as far as I recall about Muslims.
i wasn’t in favour of Brexit at all, not in favour of civil disorder and I’m not find of those with a political bias rather than seeing reality and not accepting that.
We need to move on and stop being divided, impossible unless we have a mass change of mindset.
wallace
Mr Kipling
Misinformation spreading hatred.
The misinformation started on social networks that the killer of the three young girls in Southport was a Muslim and arrived on a boat last year.
That wasn't true but the right-wing thugs do not care about that.
Strangerland
By blaming the government of a month for the failures of the 14 year government before that?
falseflagsteve
wallace
You are indeed correct about far right in U.K. and disruptions caused by them. Last 70’s to late 80’s were the times of most of the issues, decades before Brexit of course. The NF and later the BNP actually managed quite a few votes in some areas. Those days are well gone, these groups thrived on blaming societies ills on Blacks and Asians.
I saw the worst of that from living in South London, those days were far worse than we see here, they didn’t need anything to ignite trouble it was a daily occurance.
falseflagsteve
Wallace
You are correct about the misinformation regarding the monster who murdered the kids however this sentiment is something that has been brewing amongst many for a while and little was done during the last administration and likely no change from the current one.
proxy
I saw some videos of the protests and they looked mostly peaceful.
ulysses
Totally, beating up minorities , attacking the police and robbing stores, that’s just lads having a bit of fun, eh!!!
falseflagsteve
Ulysses
He didn’t say they were all peaceful.
Haaa Nemui
Immigration is the perfect scapegoat for these thugs.
ulysses
Thank you for the enlightening explanation sir, totally agree , beating up minorities, attacking police and robbing stores is mostly peaceful.
I mean what red blooded man doesn’t do it on a weekend!!!
proxy
@ulysses I am just using the North American definition of "mostly peaceful."
falseflagsteve
Ulysses
The point still stands, he didn’t say all, he didn’t condone any violence or anything.
I doubt those kind of activities happened everywhere, not seen anyone on this site say this kind of behaviour is acceptable.
ulysses
Not at all sir, just pointing out what ‘mostly peaceful’ means.
I doubt all of South London was bad in your days , as you would like us to believe!!!
falseflagsteve
Ulysses
Never said all of South London was bad, I relied in Croydon which was pretty bad at that time, especially West Croydon up to Norbury. South West London was less affected than South East for sure.
WoodyLee
""Riots involving hundreds of anti-immigration protesters have erupted in several towns and cities in recent days after false information spread rapidly on social media that the suspect in Monday's knife attack at a dance class for children in Southport was a radical Muslim migrant.""
DISGUSTING, I blame the Platform that allowed this coward to publish this FALSE ACCUSATION more than anyone.
kurisupisu
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The straw that broke the camel’s back.
wallace
Thugs throwing half bricks at the police. Attacking police vehicles. Police were taken to hospital with injuries. The thugs do care about law and order.
itsonlyrocknroll
This appalling tragedy Southport, an atrocity in every respect, could well be described as a catalyst, incitement, a failure to recognise the underlining clear divisions within British society.
Parliament, government, past/present utterly unable to perceive communities are fractured alone religious and racial lines.
A corrosive insensitivity to fundamental change manifested in a clash of cultures, lacking the knowledge or the leadership to bring unity through engagement.
Illegal immigration, coupled with the toxic belief that Islamic fundamentalists are now entrenched within UK communities, extremism, political violence, mob rule, a rioting generation of hate filled discourse and despondency.
UK politicians must take responsibility, engage with communities, get to the root causes of what could be rightly considered close to a breakdown of law and order.
Jimizo
Make sure you make it clear this doesn’t represent the ‘white working class’ as a whole.
I’m from the ‘white working class’.
They don’t represent me, my family or the people I grew up with. Not in the slightest.
I see these fine upstanding members of the white working class burned out a Citizens Advice Bureau among other things.
Burning out a service providing help to the more needy in society?
Garbage.
I think the walls have closed in on the relevance of this.
Good to hear.
Those with a hysterical and childish political bias were blaming this government for this after a month in office.
Glad to see you’ve stepped back from that.
Progress of a kind.
wallace
My family is working class not entirely white and would never support the aims of these far-right thugs. Their thoughts remain on the victims and families of the Southport stabbing which includes my family area.
Jimizo
To take just one platform, I read that Twitter saw a majority of the garbage about the ‘Southport Muslim’ coming from outside the UK.
Hard to police this kind of thing - it’s across borders.
The trash elements of the right from anywhere will jump on this. Very sad, disturbed and pathetic people.
You can see how uniformed about the UK they are with their comments. I couldn’t believe what I read from people claiming to be British yet being utterly clueless about the basics.
Waste of space.
itsonlyrocknroll
Westminster Parliament cannot suggest UK Britain hasn't been warned that political complacency breeds contempt then anarchy.
The poll tax riot 25 years ago was the day I woke up politically
What happened in Trafalgar Square on 31 March 1990 has stayed with me for 25 years – I’m glad I was there to play my part in Margaret Thatcher’s political demise
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/31/poll-tax-riots-25-years-ago-political-awakening-carnage-trafalgar-square
The then mistress of monetarism, the Thatcher government ruthlessly pinned the blame on the extreme left Tony Benn......
Tony Benn and the radical socialist tradition
https://www.historyandpolicy.org/opinion-articles/articles/tony-benn-and-the-radical-socialist-tradition
Has the true socialist values, traditions detailed in Tony Benn's diaries become a distant long lost memory?
wallace
Looters take advantage of riots to steal wine, phones, and crocs as they ransack shops in Liverpool, Hull, and Manchester.
In Liverpool, thugs set fire to a newly opened library. No use to them when they can't even read.