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Police say Sacramento shooting was gunfight among gang rivals

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2AM, machine guns, felons out on early release. Doesn't take a genius.

Gang rivals or rival gangs?

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Gangs? Which gangs? Why are they in gangs? Not that ugly elephant in the room again....

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Being soft on hardened criminals is not a sustainable strategy. California is one of the worst about this.

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Naturally.

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Nothing good happens after midnight.

The one time I visited San Francisco, I was in bed well before midnight, lol.

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Jeez, the quality of the reporting and the interpretation (twisting) of facts is hard to stomach, on top of this meaningless crime.

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I like pitball thinking. Stay off the streets and keep it in the hotel room.

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Which is why the politicians immediately start mouthing off about gun control etc. Much easier than trying to fix the causes of crime and going after actual criminals.

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Wow, same story for 5 days in a row but those who said it would disappear have disappeared. What a turn up.

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wakarimasen...

Which is why the politicians immediately start mouthing off about gun control etc. Much easier than trying to fix the causes of crime and going after actual criminals.

Which is why the politicians immediately start mouthing off about gun control etc. Much easier than trying to fix the causes of black on black shooting.

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Which is why the politicians immediately start mouthing off about gun control etc. Much easier than trying to fix the causes of crime and going after actual criminals.

Which is why the politicians immediately start mouthing off about gun control etc. Much easier than trying to fix the causes of black on black shooting

Criminals. People doing crime. Doesn’t matter what colour they are. Criminals. Doing crime. Criminals with guns. Any criminals with guns. Criminals of any colour.

The original poster was quite clear. Keep your agenda to yourself. Thank you.

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Criminals come in all colors, crime is crime it doesn't discriminate nor does death!

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Which is why the politicians immediately start mouthing off about gun control etc. Much easier than trying to fix the causes of crime and going after actual criminals.

So what you’re saying is, we ought to be spending more money on social services, mental health facilities, early intervention programs, better education, job placement programs, affordable housing, racial sensitivity training, and community-based (rather than militarized) policing?

I dunno man. You might have to pay more in… T A X E S

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Which is why the politicians immediately start mouthing off about gun control etc. Much easier than trying to fix the causes of crime and going after actual criminals.

The real solution is thoughts and prayers. So many thoughts and prayers.

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Which is why the politicians immediately start mouthing off about gun control etc. Much easier than trying to fix the causes of crime and going after actual criminals.

If firearms weren't so easy to obtain, along with kits to convert some of them to full automatic weapons such as one of the weapons used in this mass murder, the gangs would have to fight it out with knives, brass knuckles and shovels with sharpened blades like they did in the past. You wouldn't have innocent bystanders killed or injured in a spray of automatic weapon fire, just a bunch of bloody and bruised gang members to scrape up afterwards.

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Desert TortoiseToday  12:43 am JST

If firearms weren't so easy to obtain, along with kits to convert some of them to full automatic weapons such as one of the weapons used in this mass murder, the gangs would have to fight it out with knives, brass knuckles and shovels with sharpened blades like they did in the past. You wouldn't have innocent bystanders killed or injured in a spray of automatic weapon fire, just a bunch of bloody and bruised gang members to scrape up afterwards.

Blame the weapons for the violence!

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Crime statistics directly from the FBI are not allowed. Putin would be proud.

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I’m wondering where the NRA are on this? Where’s the push to arm people in the inner city? Maybe they ought to ask Ollie North back. If he could get guns for Central American death squads, making sure everyone in every inner-city is strapped should be a cinch.

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ReynardFoxToday  03:32 am JST

I’m wondering where the NRA are on this? Where’s the push to arm people in the inner city?

The NRA does not push to arm anyone. It does promote Constitutional rights to possess firearms, and only by legal means.

If anyone here thinks the problem is a gun, I would be interested in hearing how the people pulling the trigger don't deserve all the blame.

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painkiller

If anyone here thinks the problem is a gun, I would be interested in hearing how the people pulling the trigger don't deserve all the blame.

That's a false dichotomy. It isn't either the person with the gun or the gun's fault. The person with the gun is to blame and the gun has enabled a person great power in wielding death. You will find that societies who have sensible gun control laws, also have lower homicide rates.

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If firearms weren't so easy to obtain... the gangs would have to fight it out with knives, brass knuckles and shovels with sharpened blades like they did in the past.

I'm sure they'd find a way to arm themselves with firearms. Recently certain types of guns were made much harder to obtain in New Zealand, as well as removing those types of weapons already in civilian hands from circulation. Nevertheless, the vast majority of gun violence there is still carried out by the numerous gangs, often with the recently banned weapons.

In Mexico guns are very difficult to obtain - there's one gun store in the entire country - but the gangs there are armed to the teeth. Most of those guns come from the USA, but also places like Guatemala, China and Nicaragua. Point being, they'll find a way.

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That might be one use ‘once’ all the weapons are seized @zichi 7:39am.

@zichi 7:39am: “The streets are paved with weapons.”

So, what’s Your plan for the problem of the guns already in the communities?

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Bob Fosse.....

Criminals. People doing crime. Doesn’t matter what colour they are. Criminals. Doing crime. Criminals with guns. Any criminals with guns. Criminals of any colour.

But it does matter if you really want to end the gun violence. Black Americans are 10 times more likely to killed by a gun and 18 times the firearm injuries of whites. This is the problem, white people have equal access to guns. Why are young black men killing each other at such rates?

Could it be drugs, gangs, poverty, opportunity, education, environment, discrimination, racism....?

Maybe the solution is too difficult so best to just build more prisons and blame the guns?

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Californian firearm laws are stricter than those in Switzerland funnily enough.

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