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© Copyright 2023 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.6 adults, 3 children injured in shooting near beach in Hollywood, Florida
By TERRY SPENCER HOLLYWOOD, Fla©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
68 Comments
opheliajadefeldt
Oh my, what a surprise. Yet another mass shooting in the good Ol' US of A.
Mr Kipling
Usual suspects? It would seem so.
wallace
Mr Kipling
Who would they be?
Blacklabel
Yeah “two groups”. of course.
2020hindsights
In Japan if tempers flare the worst you will get are a few bruises. With permit-less carry, you get gunshot wounds.
wallace
Weapons on the streets.
Mr Kipling
wallace...
Two groups of young men shooting each other? Come on, have a wild guess...
InYourEye
@Mr Kipling
Solid bet.
EvilBuddha
if tempers flare the worst you will get are a few bruises
In other words, the law of the jungle with the physically strong preying on the weak.
With permit-less carry, you get gunshot wounds.
With equal probability of those being inflicted on both sides. Therefore guns are a great leveller.
wallace
Mr Kipling
are you trying to associate street shooting with a single race? If so why not just say it?
I have been to Hollywood Beach, not far from the family home.
Whites 60%. Hispanics 42% Blacks 18% mixed race 15%.
wallace
A guy in the mall pulls out a gun and starts shooting people dead. Everyone else pulls out their guns and also starts shooting.
Quickly, everything is leveled and everyone is dead.
bass4funk
Yes, it’s Hollywood, Florida
bass4funk
It is just stay away from certain the big cities
wallace
The Hollywood violent crime rate is lower than the state rate.
10 murders in 2019. Jacksonville has the highest.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/table-8/table-8-state-cuts/florida.xls
wallace
The problem always remains the same. Guns on the streets.
FizzBit
Very shallow observation. Might as well blame gangsta rap music too.
WA4TKG
If you don’t live there, you don’t know.
Remember the bumper sticker?;
Miami, See it like a Native
wallace
Too many guns on the street is not a shallow observation it is a fact. The US has no political will to deal with it.
wallace
Rap music does not kill anyone.
bass4funk
No, the people wielding the gun is the problem.
wallace
bass4funk
People without guns cannot shoot anyone. Simple really.
bass4funk
You won’t get rid of them, ever! Also, even if you hypothetically could they would find some other way to kill people.
WA4TKG
That’s right Wally, and you know what Jack’n’Kill is known for?
Gangsta’s and Hippity Hop. Google THAT.
Guess who just sold their house there.
garypen
Oh sure. Other than children and innocent bystanders being shot.
wallace
If the US cannot find the solution to guns on the streets then the shooting and killings will continue. The are always "ways" to kill people but guns are one of the most effective to kill many people quickly.
All manufactured guns are sold and are legal. All guns are legal from the beginning. So do they become illegal?
wallace
WA4TKG
music never killed anyone.
Blacklabel
Yet the NAACP just announced its dangerous FOR certain races and identities.
it also implied that the danger wasn’t from the same races and identities.
wallace
The daily problem across all 50 states is people with guns killing other people.
Cards fan
Mask slipped. Oops
wallace
NAACP
The formal travel notice states, "Florida is openly hostile toward African Americans, people of color, and LGBTQ+ individuals. Before traveling to Florida, please understand that the state of Florida devalues and marginalizes the contributions of and the challenges faced by African Americans and other communities of color."
https://naacp.org/articles/naacp-issues-travel-advisory-florida
bass4funk
Or knives, cars, driving into crowds of people, bombs. Anyway, guns will be here, but I’m more concerned with the mental status of many of these people. Normal thinking people don’t shoot or kill people.
bass4funk
take your pick.
violence, drugs, you can find that anywhere and I mean, anywhere.
which country doesn’t care about money? Afghanistan?
funkymofo
More guns! Hopes and prayers, stat!
Tell_me_bout_it
OMG 10 murders is so fewww
Babe Ruth
The fact that you have "been to" Hollywood beach means squat.
But would you now care to lay some violent crime stats on us broken down by race?
...
Of course you don't.
garypen
"Big cities" like Uvalde, TX (22 dead, 18 wounded); Red River, NM (3 dead, 5 wounded); Dumas, AR (1 dead, 26 wounded); Cedar Rapids, IA (2 dead, 10 wounded): Highland Park, IL (7 dead, 48 wounded); Colorado Springs, CO (5 dead, 19 wounded); Huntsville, AL (2 dead, 13 wounded); Monterey Park, CA (12 dead, 9 wounded); East Lansing, MI (4 dead, 5 wounded); Galena Park, TX (5 dead, 2 wounded); Bowden and Yarmouth, ME (4 dead, 3 wounded); Henryetta, OK (7 dead); Allen, TX (9 dead, 7 wounded); Farmington, NM (4dead, 6 wounded)...
Those are just a handful pulled from just the last 17 months (2022 & 2023) wherein there were a total of 880 mass shootings with 1016 dead and 3610 wounded in the US.
And FYI, Hollywood, FL is not a "big city", either.
Babe Ruth
The funny thing is these kinds of incidents with the same numbers happen almost every weekend night in Chicago.
But US-hating Euros forget that it even exists for some strange reason.
Cards fan
Rightists are so hung up race. Weird.
Paustovsky
Because they are cowards. I'll say it. They are saying black people did it. They are also saying black people are not considered responsible enough to own guns. Only white people who never shoot other people are responsible enough to own guns.
Paustovsky
Lol. I watched that movie too. Mississippi Burning was made by communists.
bass4funk
Because the left push the issue 24/7 for any situation, that’s weird
Jimizo
Delirium.
I think the walls have closed in on rational discussion here.
We’ll be getting hysterics about wokeism in a minute.
Babe Ruth
The communist pretends to care about race. he doesn't. He cares about political opportunism.
The communist pretends to care about the environment. He doesn't. He cares about political opportunism.
The communist pretends to care about sexism, gay rights, all the "isms" you can name. He doesn't.
He cares about political opportunism.
I promise you. The communist read the headline above and his first and only thoughts were not for the children. He doesn't care about the children, if they live or if they die.
They were about political opportunism.
bass4funk
Well, you just proved my point, there are a lot of crazy people that are getting their hands on guns, so the first step is to find out. Why why are these people so out of control?
Not that small either
Cards fan
lol Rightists are hung up on race, because the leftists are hung up about race. Makes total sense.
You'll notice no one mentioned race until the rightists did.
Blacklabel
so much marginalized that African Americans and other communities of color are shot and killed by members of their own communities.
TaiwanIsNotChina
I guarantee your heroes don't value anything except money or expanding their fascist states.
Blacklabel
Because the race of the shooters is of no use to you. this time.
wallace
bass4funk
How do you know who is "normal thinking people"? Many crazed people appear very "normal thinking people".
Stop the flow of guns from gun fairs with no background checks, stop the internet sale of guns, and stop the buying of ghost gun parts from manufacturers.
Gun permits.
Gun registrations. Heavy fines for not securing guns in safe places in homes. More than 1 million guns are stolen from homes every year.
Mental health checks for gun buyers to ensure they are "normal thinking people".
bass4funk
You think it’s funny,?? No, it’s left that constantly bring a dish of race in accuses the right of being racist, when that’s further from the truth, but they have nothing else to clamor on, so they keep pushing and invoking race
And because the left is so hung up on the race, that’s why we have different police, police, cutting jobs, because the left are more focused with optics instead of reality of the people that are committing most of the crime in the people that are doing it predominately or not the people that vote Republican
The left one mention race as soon as I find out that it’s a white person that did it, then we go back to the typical Oath keeper, Qanon garbage.
Cards fan
And why do you think that might be? Certainly nothing do with socio-economics and everything to do with racem is that what you're trying to say?
Is it of use to this time?
wallace
The race identity of the victims and the shooter(s) has not been released.
PTownsend
Florida continues to unravel, while the governor leads culture wars and aims to drive business away as he and his supporters want the state to continue its path backward.
bass4funk
easy, I have a lot of guns, and I never went out and killed someone, so that makes me by default not crazy.
Then they’re not going to use guns kill people, most of the time
Not going to happen
And trust this government???? Lol, nope. I wouldn’t trust us government with a snickers bar, let alone my personal information. But at the same time you don’t want illegals to have voter ID, you just can’t make this stuff up.
Personally, I think the most important thing that we should do is re-open mental asylums, and we should focus on giving proper mental care and research to people that have the tendency of wanting to hurt people or wanting to shoot people and the first and most important thing is to lock them up and give them the treatment that they need, especially if they pose a danger to the general public. Again, if you liberals won’t even take that first step, they shouldn’t even expect conservatives to even meet them. Halfway, it just won’t happen.
sangetsu03
in case no one is aware, shootings and gun related crime significantly decreased after Florida began its “shall issue” CCW program. This was largely due to two things, first, permit holders were required to understand when using deadly force in self defense was legal (in most cases it isn’t), second, many would-be shootings were prevented when the likelihood of victims shooting back increased. A surprising number of women are permit holders in Florida. An old soldier once told me that a gun makes you anyone’s equal. In the 19th century it was said “God made man, Samuel Colt made them equal.”
wallace
The victims and the shooters were all Americans.
Bofington
These shootings keep happening, yet police receive nothing but hate for "abusing power" or "murdering" people. The amount of body cam footage I've seen over the past few years is insane. I'd estimate that 1/5 justified police shootings make it to youtube, while 90% of unjustified ones do. Uploaded to the same channels. With that said, I think 1/25 of those videos are possibly unjustified, with only 1/100 of the body cam videos on most channels on youtube being 100% indisputably unjustified.
America calls to "defund the police" calling them "racist" and whatever. They need to fund the police, and build bigger prisons. They are too lenient with extremely violent and dangerous individuals.
Blacklabel
The left here acting like we didn’t just go through an entire month of their “but but Illegal alien Mexicans are white supremacists toooooo!”
Babe Ruth
Exactly. But then, at least as far as the FBI is concerned, Latinos ARE white. Their crime statistics are lumped in with whites.
Asians, too, are now "white". At least as far as the University admission offices go. They have become much too successful to keep the honorary title of "minority".
bass4funk
Add to that significant point that when you see an Asian/White couple they’re not even considered an interracial couple, another known fact not talked about often
wallace
Hollywood crime stats
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/fl/hollywood/crime
Hollywood Beach is not considered the most dangerous area.
Races in Hollywood, Florida (FL) Detailed Stats
Read more: https://www.city-data.com/races/races-Hollywood-Florida.html
cleo
I see what you did there.
Someone pulls a gun, everyone is down on the ground.
Americans.
Americans.
Normal thinking people don't feel the need to carry a gun. If you are, and you do, then the normal thing is to think about moving to somewhere safer.