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He did not further explain.

No need for further explanation. It was the same as every other gun murder in the US: someone carrying a gun used it to shoot someone else.

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Thoughts and prayers

Too soon to talk about legislation

A good person with a gun could have prevented this

Move along folks no need to change the sacred 2nd Amendment. This is just how we live now.

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A good person with a gun did stop it. The shooter killed himself after being confronted by an armed bystander.

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Ts & Ps.

See ya at the next one.

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Just a day after a house party shooting.

America and its obsession with guns.

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Another day in the hell the NRA has created. Gundamentalists will defend these killings, as a small price to pay, for their freedom to maim and kill men, women and children.

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In a country of over 300 million people, sadly there will be crime and murder. in this case, the killer was an angry husband who was confronting his estranged wife and her new boyfriend. Killed them and then killed himself. Domestic violence at its worst.

Nothing to do with the NRA, just a jealous a-hole.

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Nothing to do with the NRA, just a jealous a-hole.

Exactly. This was not a mass shooting, though the killer did target presumably innocent people.

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NRA types will deflect from the terrorist organization that is responsible for so many lives taken. Horrific.

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Heretic, I think you're wrong. There is little/no relation between the NRA and the Democratic Party. Most large cities in the US are governed by Democrats- the results are easy to see.

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Last year 2018 was a peak year for gunshot deaths but this year will be higher.

For the first ten months this year.

-12,531 gun deaths

-24,716 gun injuries

-585 kids (age 0-11) shot

-2,555 teens (age 12-17) shot

-1,248 defensive gun use incidents

-1,462 unintentional shootings

-351 mass shootings

-20,130 suicides (CDC estimate)

How does that compare with Japan?

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The Purge continues.

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A good person with a gun did stop it. The shooter killed himself after being confronted by an armed bystander.

That's unconfirmed.

"She said as she was getting to the car, she saw another man standing there with a gun, but he was not involved and had gotten there after the shooting happened."

https://www.kswo.com/2019/11/19/nurse-tries-help-after-duncan-walmart-shooting/

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Zichi; actually, the rates you cite are lower than they were 20-30 years ago. The fact is that the US is safer now than at nearly any other time in history. At least, if you believe the FBI statistics... the murder rate is half of what it was in the 1980s. At the same time, gun ownership has been rising. Coincidence?

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I think there should be a travel ban on NRA members and any living in Japan should be, at the very least, subject to rigid scrutiny.

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Heretic, how very fascist of you! Imagine banning people due to their membership in a popular, legal, and nonviolent political action group. How about applying that to other groups too? Southern Poverty Law Center, Socialists of America, Green Party, Greenpeace....

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The U.S. gun death rate was 10.6 per 100,000 people in 2016. The highest of the developed world. less than 50% of households own guns. About 40% live in households with guns.

A majority of Americans say gun laws should be stricter.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/10/22/facts-about-guns-in-united-states/

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the murder rate is half of what it was in the 1980s.

All violent crime in the US has gone down since then.

gun ownership has been rising.

Define gun ownership. The amount of guns, or the amount of people with guns? Because the latter was pretty steady from 1978 to '94 and has been dropping since then.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/29/american-gun-ownership-is-now-at-a-30-year-low/

And the number of gun-murders has been increasing since about 2014. Earlier, even.

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Zichi the SAME report also shows an overall downward trend in gun death rate from 1979 to today. So the situation is better than 40 years ago. Plus, as I stated before, the homicide rate is also the lowest in decades.

The US is safer than it has been in decades. The evidence shows this clearly. The only things that have changed are levels of paranoia.

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Attila, so you are saying that paranoia levels have risen?

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Nanda, yes that is true. Crime is down, murder is down, the US was MUCH more dangerous in the past than today. Yet the media promotes stories, ironically like the one that leads this discussion, which simply aren't that important. A family squabble leading to violence isn't pretty, but it also isn't anything other than a local story. Yet here we are in Japan, reading all about it, ignoring the actual statistical evidence.

I blame the media for sensationalizing ordinary news, and promoting nothing stories to national prominence. Also blame the public for being far too credulous and blindly accepting what they are fed.

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Another day in the hell the NRA has created.

What? More like another day and gun haters are still lingering around saying nothing but noise. Very sad, will be definitely keep these people in my thoughts and prayers.

Gundamentalists will defend these killings, as a small price to pay, for their freedom to maim and kill men, women and children.

No, no gun supporters don’t support any killings of innocent people, we do care and fight for the right to allow us to protect the people we love that is our second amendment.

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No, no gun supporters don’t support any killings of innocent people, we do care and fight for the right to allow us to protect the people we love that is our second amendment.

That isn't the meaning or purpose of the 2nd amendment.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." 

Where are those well regulated Militia?

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That isn't the meaning or purpose of the 2nd amendment.

Yes, it is.

Where are those well regulated Militia?

Me as head of the household and provider for my family. So don’t tread on me.

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I think there should be a travel ban on NRA members and any living in Japan should be, at the very least, subject to rigid scrutiny.

I would say they do that to liberals and give them a 90 day limited visa. Lol

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Me as head of the household and provider for my family. So don’t tread on me.

That does not make you a Militia. The 2nd amendment was for taking arms against the government not each other.

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That does not make you a Militia.

Under the updated 2019 2nd amendment it sure does.

The 2nd amendment was for taking arms against the government not each other.

I wouldn’t be surprised if that were to happen one with these out of control Democrats.

That comment raises questions that you almost certainly won't or can't provide cogent answers.

I just did

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