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Police search for motive in Brooklyn subway shooting suspect's videos

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the elusive "search for motive".

I guess we "will just never know", despite him being alive and being able to just tell us. (or by looking at his social media posts, which are quite clear about his motive- Black nationalism).

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this guy was consumed with hatred of white people, spewed racist anti-white hate all over the internet but the police is still searching for his motives, I see a pattern

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all lives matters.

or did i made a mistake?

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He used a legally owned firearm. Had no felonies.

He is also clearly mentally ill.

Gun nuts will blame mental illness or push his focus on racism. But the issue in this case as in all mass shootings is availability of firearms.

A lot of these incidents are someone who just snaps, always the same “he was such a nice guy, I can’t believe it” from his neighbors.

Going to conduct psychiatric tests on everybody who wants to buy a gun, despite the fact that he bought this gun 10 years ago and may well have been quite sane then?

Easier to just quickly and effectively introduce severe gun control laws, as UK and Australia did.

But US can’t or won’t do that because of yeehaw culture, gun lobbies and a multi billion dollar industry. Trapped, it’s sad.

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Bob FosseToday  04:17 pm JST

But the issue in this case as in all mass shootings is availability of firearms. 

That is the issue?

In the 9/11 attack on the US, was the issue the availability of airplanes? In the Oklahoma bombings, was the issue the availability of fertilizer?

We don't blame the perpetrators anymore?

Is this the Woke culture's ultimate goal, to not assume any responsibility--it must be the laws or lack of laws--it's the government's fault!

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Twelve prior arrests and some evidence of mental instability yet he was still able to buy legally gun. But gun nuts and their supposed right to bear arms stance with no gun control means this guy can also legally buy a gun. And at the same time, the gun nuts lament crimes and shootings because it's about people not their ability to legally guns. Hypocrisy at its finest.

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But the issue in this case as in all mass shootings is availability of firearms. 

That is the issue?

In the 9/11 attack on the US, was the issue the availability of airplanes? In the Oklahoma bombings, was the issue the availability of fertilizer?

Mass shootings. The hint is in the title.

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This guy was videod when he was passing through the ticket gate. What about equipping some kind of detection machine at the ticket gates?

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@BobFose he had no felonies? Where are you getting your news from? This guy has a long criminal record. Did you even watch the NYPD taking about this?

Do you know what felony means?

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In the 9/11 attack on the US, was the issue the availability of airplanes? In the Oklahoma bombings, was the issue the availability of fertilizer?

If 9-11 or the Oklahoma bombing were happening several times a week in the US you might have a point.

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@KetoCoffee

He probably got it from the article he just read.

James had no felony convictions and was not prohibited from purchasing or owning a firearm. Police said the gun used in the attack was legally purchased at an Ohio pawn shop in 2011.

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The US gun industry is too profitable and too powerful politically to be checked, they have found all sorts of ways to avoid responsibilty for how their products are used. And the guns and ammo corporations have led effective marketing campaigns targeting the fearful and weak getting them to believe that a gun can protect them from some other weak fearful people with guns. Some gun bangers even said they thought good guys with guns could have stopped the Brooklyn subway killer, even after the killer had released a smoke bomb. They must have watched too many John Ford westerns and believed the gun industry's hypes. Shows how little some gun nuts know about what actually happens when bullets start flying, especially in a crowded space like a subway, or darkened movie theater. Individuals carrying loaded guns present a great risk to anyone around them. Those that carry loaded guns with them tend to be thugs and/or weak, unstable sorts, individuals who might not need what some claim is a motive, instead just snap and because they have a loaded gun resort to using it.

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He's angry because he needs to wear a bra.

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Is this the Woke culture's ultimate goal, to not assume any responsibility--

I can’t speak for whatever group you think that is. But I’ll speak common sense.

it must be the laws or lack of laws--it's the government's fault!

There are too many guns readily available, even to mentally ill people. This problem only happens with such frequency in The US.

Yes, of course lack of laws is responsible. Who makes laws? The government.

That’s why whenever we see a mass shooting story it is most likely to be in The US.

Common sense. Call it “woke” if it makes you feel better.

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Bob FosseToday  05:07 pm JST

I can’t speak for whatever group you think that is. But I’ll speak common sense. 

Excellent.

There are too many guns readily available, even to mentally ill people. This problem only happens with such frequency in The US.

Sure.

Yes, of course lack of laws is responsible. Who makes laws? The government. 

We agree.

That’s why whenever we see a mass shooting story it is most likely to be in The US. 

Yeah, the media highlights these relatively infrequent events, when one takes into account the population of the US and the overall number of firearms. Car crashes involving multiple vehicles are also newsworthy, and it is rare to read of such event other than as occurring in the US.

Common sense. Call it “woke” if it makes you feel better.

Well, I assume you feel better blaming mass shootings on availability of guns--correct me if I am wrong.

The Woke crowd does not dare touch on the racist aspect of an attack like this when it involves a black person as the perpetrator.

But the Woke crowd is all up in arms (pun intended) when a shooting occurs in which a white person is the shooter.

Is anyone here too young to recall the Kenosha shootings?

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@Eastman or did i made a mistake?

Given posts cheerleading for Russia to slaughter Ukrainians, it seems that some do not feel Ukrainian's lives matter.

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When government excuses bad behavior we get worse behavior. If we do not punish small crimes we end up with big crimes.

Where do these people get all this money to do crimes like this? Renting vehicles, bank cards, apparently crime pays.

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PTownsendToday  05:22 pm JST

@Eastman or did i made a mistake?

Given posts cheerleading for Russia to slaughter Ukrainians, it seems that some do not feel Ukrainian's lives matter.

Just to interject--is your comment in reference to a comment on this article? We don't see any mention of Ukraine in this article.

Thank you for the clarification.

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@Eastman

all lives matters.

Except Ukrainian lives ?

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Yeah, the media highlights these relatively infrequent events,

Not infrequent. The police also highlight them, as do the victims and their families.

Gun manufacturers and the NRA don’t seem to highlight them much.

when one takes into account the population of the US and the overall number of firearms.

My point exactly.

Car crashes involving multiple vehicles are also newsworthy, and it is rare to read of such event other than as occurring in the US.

Nonsense.

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The US gun industry is too profitable and too powerful politically to be checked, they have found all sorts of ways to avoid responsibilty for how their products are used.

More like liberals have decided for a very long time to wash their hands from the failed liberal policies that have failed the communities they claim to represent by defunding the police, downplaying the race stats on crime and causes of it, lower sentences for hardened criminals and child molesters, soft on overall crime, defunding our police and not allowing them to do their job and as a result we see a rise in crime in all the major urban cities and the Dems only response, less guns which would solve nothing because it’s not addressing the root problem because the vast majority of Americans that own guns don’t go around abusing this sacred right. They follow the law, now Dems should focus on the real problems and that’s the perpetrators themselves first and foremost and then work our way down to the gun problem by enforcing harshly the guns laws that are already in place. If they did that they would win re-election in a landslide for sure, but they won’t and gun owners are never going to vote for any party that solely focuses on law-abiding gun owners as the problem.

And the guns and ammo corporations have led effective marketing campaigns targeting the fearful and weak getting them to believe that a gun can protect them from some other weak fearful people with guns.

If you live in a low income area where the police has been defunded and or the safety of the officer comes into question, then citizens should be armed, the firearm may be the only thing that can save them before help arrives

Some gun bangers even said they thought good guys with guns could have stopped the Brooklyn subway killer, even after the killer had released a smoke bomb. They must have watched too many John Ford westerns and believed the gun industry's hypes. Shows how little some gun nuts know about what actually happens when bullets start flying,

A lot of people in Washington wouldn’t know either. For one thing they can hire the best security so they don’t have to worry about their safety, ever. But what about people that live in the poorest communities that can’t afford protection? What should they do? When there aren’t enough law enforcement available? Again, we go back to adding more police, zero crime tolerance and harsher prison sentences.

especially in a crowded space like a subway, or darkened movie theater. Individuals carrying loaded guns present a great risk to anyone around them. Those that carry loaded guns with them tend to be thugs and/or weak, unstable sorts, individuals who might not need what some claim is a motive, instead just snap and because they have a loaded gun resort to using it.

The guy was mental spewing racist hate. Wonder if he will be mentally fit to serve trial. Should be interesting. Either you are 100% tough on crime or you’re weak on crime, it’s very black and white.

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Well, I assume you feel better blaming mass shootings on availability of guns--correct me if I am wrong.

Mass shootings happen because of the availability of guns. I can’t make it simpler for you.

That is why mass shootings happen in The US far far more frequently than anywhere else. I can’t make it simpler for you.

The Woke crowd does not dare touch on the racist aspect of an attack like this when it involves a black person as the perpetrator. 

But the Woke crowd is all up in arms (pun intended) when a shooting occurs in which a white person is the shooter.

Is anyone here too young to recall the Kenosha shootings?

You are making it a race issue. It’s a gun issue. Racism is racism, guns are guns. I can’t make it any simpler for you.

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You are making it a race issue. It’s a gun issue. Racism is racism, guns are guns. I can’t make it any simpler for you

That is just straight up ludicrous. It’s not a gun issue, it’s an issue of tolerating growing crime and not failing to be honest that it’s really the media that is playing the race card and trying to make one racial group look bad in order to not alienate the other racial group for political purposes. That is just flat out wrong.

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Motive. He had a gun

and struggles with mental illness.

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He's racist against White people. He said White and Balck people shouldn't even talk. Im sick and tired of these type of people doing the reverse racism and killing people. He should be executed ASAP

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Bob FosseToday  05:47 pm JST

Mass shootings happen because of the availability of guns. I can’t make it simpler for you. 

It is not making it simpler for me--it is simpler for you to believe so.

That is why mass shootings happen in The US far far more frequently than anywhere else. I can’t make it simpler for you. 

Ok, so if there were no people in the US, only guns, these mass shooting would still happen.

You are making it a race issue. It’s a gun issue. Racism is racism, guns are guns. I can’t make it any simpler for you.

Let's make this race issue here simpler for everyone:

In a video posted a day before the attack,

James criticizes crime against Black people

and says things would only change if certain people were “stomped, kicked and tortured” out of their “comfort zone.”

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bass4funkToday  05:44 pm JST

If you live in a low income area where the police has been defunded and or the safety of the officer comes into question, then citizens should be armed, the firearm may be the only thing that can save them before help arrives

The guy was mental spewing racist hate. Wonder if he will be mentally fit to serve trial. Should be interesting. Either you are 100% tough on crime or you’re weak on crime, it’s very black and white.

More failed logic. If criminals aren't able to legally purchase guns, then you wouldn't need to arm yourself either. The proliferation of guns in the US is connected to crime rates and the direct result of decades of no gun control.

You're actually weak on crime cause you believe in a criminal's right to legally purchase a gun. This guy had 12 previous arrests but you still believe in his 2nd amendment rights. LOL!

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MilesTegToday  06:18 pm JST

More failed logic. If criminals aren't able to legally purchase guns, then you wouldn't need to arm yourself either. The proliferation of guns in the US is connected to crime rates and the direct result of decades of no gun control.

What do you mean by criminal? Someone who had been arrested and convicted of jaywalking?

Federal law prohibits felons from possessing handguns.

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painkillerToday  06:26 pm JST

MilesTegToday  06:18 pm JST

More failed logic. If criminals aren't able to legally purchase guns, then you wouldn't need to arm yourself either. The proliferation of guns in the US is connected to crime rates and the direct result of decades of no gun control.

What do you mean by criminal? Someone who had been arrested and convicted of jaywalking?

Federal law prohibits felons from possessing handguns.

'Investigators said James had 12 prior arrests in New York and New Jersey from 1990 to 2007, including for possession of burglary tools, criminal sex act, trespassing, larceny and disorderly conduct.'

Was jaywalking one of his offenses? Are you seriously saying that someone who jaywalks is a criminal? Do you not think that his 12 previous arrests didn't involve a legitimate crime? He may not have been a 'felon' from a legal perspective but are you doubting that he didn't have a criminal past? Why was someone like this allowed to legally purchase a gun? Oh.....because he's not a felon. LOL!

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focus on the real problems and that’s the perpetrators themselves

Ok, so if there were no people in the US, only guns, these mass shooting would still happen.

Americans spelling it out for us again that the problem with America is -- Americans.

Why, in a country that Americans themselves tell us, frequently and with feeling, is full of crazy people and criminals, do those same Americans think that letting anyone and everyone own a lethal weapon is a good thing?

I've never lived in America, I don't know if it's full of crazy people or not. But I do know that when people getting shot en masse is such a big problem, then selling guns in Walmart is way past crazy.

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Ok @zichi 6:10pm, trying to follow your reasoning. What is your intended purpose here of adding another

‘police wrestling with a civilian over his gazer during a traffic stop and then unjustifiably shooting the civilian with his service revolver ’ -

into THIS conversation?

Agreed, THAT incident is quite disturbing but how specifically does it have to do with this story?

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… tazer …

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So basically he was apprehended because he was an idiot.

Just reading some of this man’s social media posts. He thinks white people and black people should not live in the same hemisphere. He’s angry with the the latest addition to the US Supreme Court for marrying a white man. He states he wants to kill white people. He uses racial slurs against white and Asian people. He’s a terrorist, black supremacist and racist who should also be charged with hate crimes.

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if normal, law abiding New Yorkers were able to carry concealed firearms, this maniac would have been put down in seconds. He obviously had no idea what he was doing- letting off a smoke grenade first and therefore obscuring his own targets.

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Motive. He had a gun

that is means, not motive.

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The AvengerToday  07:11 pm JST

So basically he was apprehended because he was an idiot.

Just reading some of this man’s social media posts. He thinks white people and black people should not live in the same hemisphere. He’s angry with the the latest addition to the US Supreme Court for marrying a white man. He states he wants to kill white people. He uses racial slurs against white and Asian people. He’s a terrorist, black supremacist and racist who should also be charged with hate crimes.

Exactly.

MilesTegToday  06:46 pm JST

Was jaywalking one of his offenses? Are you seriously saying that someone who jaywalks is a criminal?

Nope. I was asking the other poster to clarify what he meant by "criminal". Please reread in that context.

Do you not think that his 12 previous arrests didn't involve a legitimate crime?

First, let's see what the article thinks.* *Arrests for a string of mostly low-level crimes

Again, my point is, that federal law prohibits felons from buying firearms.

Crime is crime--don't know what you mean by "legitimate". Once again from the article:

James had no felony convictions and was not prohibited from purchasing or owning a firearm. Police said the gun used in the attack was legally purchased at an Ohio pawn shop in 2011.

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If I lived in America, I would not acquire a gun, but I would still support the Second Amendment. The problem is not guns; the problem is violence and criminality. If hundreds of millions of guns suddenly turned up in Japan, the vast majority of Japanese would gingerly pick them up and take them to the nearest 交番. The same would be true if, as in America, dangerous drugs were pouring in. Denouncing “guns” in the abstract is so very easy! I think of upper-middle-class American friends of my acquaintance who, when asked whether they disapprove of “smash and grab,” can only mumble: “Uh, that, uh, depends…”

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same guy, if wearing a red hat or if he or anyone he ever met liked a conservative meme on social media?

then the gun is barely mentioned, its just the person and their affiliation. no mental illness allowed.

intentional racist, hateful crime that was directly influenced by the orange man.

But now we get (again) a black nationalist, all leftists want to to do is talk about the gun (or the car). Who do black nationalists typical vote for? Democrats. Who was he angry at? A Democrat who broke the promises he made to get elected.

A lot of these incidents are someone who just snaps, always the same “he was such a nice guy, I can’t believe it” from his neighbors.

Not THIS guy. We see his racist videos and posts, nobody is thinking he was such a nice guy.

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Frank James posted dozens of videos ranting about race, violence and his struggles with mental illness. One stands out for its relative calm: A silent shot of a packed New York City subway car in which he raises his finger to point out passengers, one by one.

Even as police arrested James on Wednesday in the Brooklyn subway shooting that wounded 10 people, they were still searching for a motive from a flood of details about the 62-year-old Black man’s life.

this is what people mean when they say the media are the racist and they’re the ones that propagate it. This is just disturbing reporting. Sure, let’s do a fireside biography of the black man with struggles in life, and let’s discover the wonderful ways to forgive his appalling actions. Anyway, he might be an adult man, but he’s a black man; and according to the media, that means he has the mind of an infant, he couldn’t help himself; all the isms are to be blamed.. plus, according to the media, being black is virtuous in itself i. He’s the victim here, not the ones he shot on the subway. Society, according to this article, is the real culprit here; and to the out of touch Europeans, it’s the second amendment, never the crazy shooter. I’m sure Ukrainians wish they had second amendment at the moment.

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I’d be suspicious of any man who lest himself go like that.

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he raises his finger to point out passengers, one by one.

wow it’s like poetry . I feel the black man’s anger when he raises his finger to point out the evil white people. Great stanza.

Even as police arrested James on Wednesday in the Brooklyn subway shooting that wounded 10 people, they were still searching for a motive from a flood of details about the 62-year-old Black man’s life.

aww. It’s ok. He only wounded 10–they can’t even bring themselves to say wounded very badly. Many more offenders were shot by the victim, however, despite the attempts to downplay this horrendous occurrence just because he’s “the 62-year-old black man.”

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The proliferation of guns in the US is connected to crime rates and the direct result of decades of no gun control.

Crime in the US (including gun homicides and other gun related crime) is far lower than it was in the 1980s and 90s, despite the ever increasing number of guns.

"Between 1993 and 2000, the gun homicide rate dropped by nearly half, from 7.0 homicides to 3.8 homicides per 100,000 people. Since then, the gun homicide rate has remained relatively flat. From 2009 to 2014, the most recent year data are available, the number of gun homicides has hovered around 11,000 and 12,000 per year.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/10/21/gun-homicides-steady-after-decline-in-90s-suicide-rate-edges-up/

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Frank James posted dozens of videos ranting about race, violence and his struggles with mental illness. One stands out for its relative calm: A silent shot of a packed New York City subway car in which he raises his finger to point out passengers, one by one.

The white man shoots; the black man raises his finger and points people out; the white man plows his vehicle into unsuspecting victims; the black man’s vehicle accidentally goes out of control and the vehicle runs into pedestrians.

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painkillerToday  07:29 pm JST

MilesTegToday  06:46 pm JST

Was jaywalking one of his offenses? Are you seriously saying that someone who jaywalks is a criminal?

Nope. I was asking the other poster to clarify what he meant by "criminal". Please reread in that context.

Do you not think that his 12 previous arrests didn't involve a legitimate crime?

First, let's see what the article thinks. **Arrests for a string of mostly low-level crimes

Again, my point is, that federal law prohibits felons from buying firearms.

Crime is crime--don't know what you mean by "legitimate". Once again from the article:

James had no felony convictions and was not prohibited from purchasing or owning a firearm. Police said the gun used in the attack was legally purchased at an Ohio pawn shop in 2011.

So your point is that since he wasn't a 'felon' it's okay for him to be able to legally buy a gun cause well...it's my 2nd amendment rights that are being challenged.

Your 2nd point is that he committed minor crimes like criminal sex act, larceny, possession of burglary tools, etc., in addition to other crimes not mentioned as there were 12 previous arrests, so these crimes aren't a big deal so why not let him buy guns.

According to you crime is crime so jaywalking is equivalent to larceny or a criminal sex act.

If crime is crime and this guy committed 12 of them much more serious than jaywalking, why are you okay with him being able to legally buy a gun. Maybe cause you don't consider them serious not felons (which is it?) so he's not a threat. Truly hung-up about the world felon.

Not surprisingly you were wrong about him and you're contradicting yourself.

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zichiToday  08:41 pm JST

America has a deep culture of gun violence.

Another legacy of British colonialism.

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America has a deep culture of gun violence.

When the white man shoots it’s because America’s awash with white supremacy. When a black raises his finger and points people out, it’s because America is awash in white supremacy—oh, and, because it has too many responsible law-abiding second amendment practicing citizens.

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yep, Twitter is a cesspool but there are random nuggets of truth

"The subway suspect is a black supremacist. The Waukesha killer is a black supremacist. The guy who tried to assassinate a mayoral candidate is a black supremacist. The man who murdered a capitol police officer was a black supremacist. In summary, white supremacy is the problem."

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The trauma of gun violence doesn’t end when the shooting stops. Across the country, people from all walks of life have been impacted by this public health epidemic: in a national poll, 58 percent of adults reported that they or someone they care for have experienced gun violence in their lifetime.2 More people die from gun violence by early February in the United States than during an entire calendar year in other high-income countries"

stop trying to remove our eye from the evil actions of the shooter. Now’s not the time to ruminate about all walks of life and the public health epidemic. Focus your attention on the evil shooter here, and stop trying to soften his actions by extrapolating from what he did and putting his actions under a larger umbrella. Black people can be just as evil and racist as white people. That’s because humans are equal. Stop treating black criminals as if they’re less than human. You don’t do it to white criminals. This is not about mass shootings in red states, which you brought up as a red herring. No is not the time to violently configure a black man’s evil actions into your scheme in order to lessen his guilt.

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Not THIS guy. We see his racist videos and posts, nobody is thinking he was such a nice guy.

Read the article. All of it.

end of the week, this disappears down the memory hole?

You keep saying this and keep ignoring the obvious fact that all mass shootings in The US get replaced with another one by the end of the week.

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Higher rates of mass shootings in US states with more relaxed gun control laws.

Not sure how robust the study was:

"This is an observational study, and as such, can’t establish cause, added to which the scoring system used has not been validated, although it was drawn up by lawyers for gun owners. Concerns have been voiced about potential under reporting to the FBI crime reporting system, note the researchers."

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zichi,

If the root causes of gun violence aren't resolved there will be more mass shootings and gun homicides like the one in the post.

I read that same study:

"How has the rate of U.S. gun deaths changed over time?

While 2020 saw the highest total number of gun deaths in the U.S., this statistic does not take into account the nation’s growing population. On a per capita basis, there were 13.6 gun deaths per 100,000 people in 2020 – the highest rate since the mid-1990s, but still well below the peak of 16.3 gun deaths per 100,000 people in 1974."

It pays to read to the end.

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