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'We don't need a liberal:' Trump discounts Moore accusations

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Trump's white house is announcing their position that scoring political majorities is more important that holding abusers of children accountable.

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Sex offenders gotta stick together.

Trump is concerned that Doug Jones is weak on crime? I'm concerned that Roy Moore committed one of the most heinous crimes a person can commit.

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The way the U.S. left politicians are rapidly imploding under the weight is sexual abuse charges against women (photographic evidence, taxpayer-funded congressional shhh funds) they claim to champion for are racking up, very soon there will be no one "left". . . .

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Trump and his fans are more interested in revenge than anything else. Revenge against the left who are out to destroy the country, revenge at minorities who are the real racists, revenge at foreigners who take their jobs (even when they don't).

They will rally around Trump and Moore for the same reasons. They feel like thev've had their asses handed to them over the last 8 years and if Trump is the one who strikes back, then sure, we'll for for a pedofile. It will be fun to flaunt that in front of our enemies, the left.

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Paedophiles, sexual predators and liars are in the ascendant. Washington is corrupted with the stench of abuse and cover ups.

Women and children do not matter to this President and the abuse ring that he enables.

Goodbye for now, America.

We won't forget you & hope you recover soon.

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SuperLibToday  08:50 am JST

Trump and his fans are more interested in revenge than anything else. …

They will rally around Trump and Moore for the same reasons. 

Sadly I'm afraid that's very true. It's just disturbing to see the far right being willing to throw innocent children under the bus for the sake of their own personal feelings of petty gratification.

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So Moore can’t even have an election to try for a place where Al Franken and John Conyers already are?

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'We don't need someone soft on crimes' but we are fine with a criminal.

Boy oh Boy, how the fallen have fallen even more!

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Trump and his fans are more interested in revenge than anything else.

Really? Judging by what we now know from the infighting of the Democrats with them backstabbing and blowing up Bernie, revenge is just one of the deeper problems afflicting the DNP.

Revenge against the left who are out to destroy the country, revenge at minorities who are the real racists, revenge at foreigners who take their jobs (even when they don't). 

Oh, please, the left have been engaging in revenge politics on the right for a very long time. Don’t make it sound like the left are the honest Party with integrity and morals, don’t even go there, better to leave that closet closed.

They will rally around Trump and Moore for the same reasons. They feel like thev've had their asses handed to them over the last 8 years

True.

and if Trump is the one who strikes back, then sure, we'll for for a pedofile. It will be fun to flaunt that in front of our enemies, the left.

Nice try. The left have their own worries with a lengthy list of....take your pick offenders coming out. Better to let the people of Alabama make their own decisions and for Washington to keep its nose out.

Women and children do not matter to this President and the abuse ring that he enables.

Has nothing to do with the president. What’s been going on, the powers that be are the ones that allowed this to happen and never mention anything about it. This has been going on long, long before Trump became president. But I know, the left have a problem to accept their own doing anything. Now Charlie Rose, didn’t see that one coming, but he is another growing casualty on the left of a list of people that excoriated the president and look where the boomerangs have been coming back to.

We won't forget you & hope you recover soon.

Once the left take a hard look at themselves and clean up their act, it just might.

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The double standard is gone now, finally consequences will start applying to both sides.

This is like the so called war on christmas you guys invented. There never was a double standard, you people have just made one up so that you can score points for your team.

How many heroes are liberals going up lose in these “gotcha” type things until they decide it’s not worth it?

Probably roughly the same amount of republicans, as it's not a party thing. There are sleazy guys on both teams.

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"How many heroes are liberals going up lose in these “gotcha” type things until they decide it’s not worth it?"

Well, let's see. There was so far this week the Michigan Governor having paid off a woman he sexually assaulted, and the former GOP member who's going to prison for pedophilia and sexual trafficking, so I'd say the "gotcha" things to date are far more on the GOP side of things. Of course, the GOP lie about it and suddenly clam up when it comes to Moore and Trump and other assaulters, then spend months on it if it's a Liberal, or even if they just THINK the person leans liberal. So I don't expect people like yourself to accept anything but alternative facts.

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Trump: "Al Franken(stein) . . . Bad! Bad! Roy Moore . . . Good! Good!"

His message is simple (very simple) because, well, you know the rest. The man has no moral compass.

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No one supports pedos. Only 1 of his accusers is underage and her story has multiple inconsistencies plus she burden herself with a celebrity lawyer instead of simply reporting it to police.

Prove the case and Moore is gone. Otherwise he gets his due process just like Conyers was screaming about when he said he didn’t pay a settlement. Except he did and is now saying he paid her but didn’t do anything that would have required that payment.

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So Moore can’t even have an election to try for a place where Al Franken and John Conyers already are?

It's important to look at the context of the situations. Franken groped and forcibly kissed an adult woman, owned up to and apologized for it, and was forgiven by his single accuser. Now look at the multitude of accusations and their context for Moore and Trump, their responses (Trump said one of the women was too ugly to harass), and keep in mind one of Moore's accusers was 14 at the time of the incident.

Sure but you guys are losing movie stars, producers, directors, Senators, business leaders, civil rights leaders. Our side just losing “people” of little significance to us, people we want drained from the swamp too.

It's not about sides. Anyone with a long history of harassment and abuse should face the consequences, even if they're the current president.

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BlacklabelToday  11:51 am JST

To me it’s just a war of attrition. How many heroes are liberals going up lose in these “gotcha” type things until they decide it’s not worth it?

It takes a special breed of sociopath to pretend getting caught sexually preying on minors is a "gotcha" moment.

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How many heroes are liberals going up lose in these “gotcha” type things until they decide it’s not worth it?

None. Getting rid of predators is a hell of a lot more important than team politics.

I can't believe you would feel otherwise.

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I do. I doubt the sincerity of “your team” because no one is really being gotten rid of. All the people found guilty it admitting guilt are getting suspensions and rehabs and refusing to resign. just “reflecting” on what they have done and waiting for an ethics committee appointment where nothing eill happen.

But that’s ok because they can be easily pointed to whenever you try to force someone on “my team” to quit or to get actual punishment.

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I do. I doubt the sincerity of “your team” because no one is really being gotten rid of.

Charlie Rose, widely considered a liberal journalist, is gone and rightfully so. "Our team" is willing to call out and drop it's members when the accusations are credible.

There are people losing their careers in various fields on all sides. Neither "team" gets to chose who gets outed.

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So, Trump supports a pedophile. Why is anyone surprised?

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Mr. Bum: "No one supports pedos. Only 1 of his accusers is underage and her story has multiple inconsistencies plus she burden herself with a celebrity lawyer instead of simply reporting it to police."

He also fell in love with his wife when she was 15, hanging out at her teenage dance recital, and was kicked out of the mall and the YMCA after prowling for teens. Is the mall and YMCA lying? Did he not call a girl to the office at school? And let's say indeed that "only one" of the women he sexually assaulted is underage, he still sexually assaulted many women.

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Just when you thought the Republican party couldn't go any further down the dark hole of insanity, they are openly saying they'd prefer to vote for a guilty paedophile than a Democrat.

That's ISIS levels of fundamentalism.

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Yes Charlie Rose was “suspended” too. It will take some time to see how permanent that is.

But wasn’t Bill O’Reilly “fired”? Was never proven that he did anything just proven that settlement payments were made for him.

Just like John Conyers who will neither quit nor be fired for what he made settlement payments for. That’s kinda my point on this.

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goalposts moving all over now.

so you can stay a Congressman if you sexually assault more than 1 woman within the last decade and/or pay them to be quiet? Just go see a toothless ethics committee?

but you can’t become the same Congressional member if 40 years ago you were supposedly banned from the mall and the YMCA? and you first met your wife decades ago when she was 15? (Assuming all that can be proven anyway, the mall thing already debunked)

just wanna know the rules for staying and for joining and if there are any exceptions by party or if 1 is ok but 2 is not, etc

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From coming election, candidates of congress and snare will declare either pedophile or womanizer to ensure he qualify to. be elected..

Did. You notice Melanie moved out from the view. when he began talking about Moore?

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Yes Charlie Rose was “suspended” too. It will take some time to see how permanent that is.

Not too long. Latest news says he's been fired by CBS, PBS, and Bloomberg.

But wasn’t Bill O’Reilly “fired”? Was never proven that he did anything just proven that settlement payments were made for him.

He was fired because most people, including his employers, believed his accusers without a court telling them to. I mean it's almost impossible to prove these cases with evidence, so it's a matter of who you believe. He can't be charged with a crime, but he can damn well be fired.

Just like John Conyers who will neither quit nor be fired for what he made settlement payments for. That’s kinda my point on this.

I wasn't aware of him, but appearenty the House Ethics Committee launched an investigation Tuesday, November 21st. If there's evidence or corroboration that points to a pattern of sexual harassment, he should resign too.

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Those elected officials just tries to grope any females, congress women began trelling their experiences. now.

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Trump and the GOP worry that they might not have the votes to pass their programs giving more tax reductions to the richest (including Trump and many Congress members) if Moore isn't elected. If the GOP helps get Moore elected, Trump etal own him. And they'll own the allegations he brings with him to DC.

Drain Trump's swamp!

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@smithinjapan

Mr. Bum: "No one supports pedos. Only 1 of his accusers is underage and her story has multiple inconsistencies plus she burden herself with a celebrity lawyer instead of simply reporting it to police."

I'm sure it was just a mistake on your part, but just to be clear, I didn't say this.

But to Blacklabel, there are inconsistencies in Moore's statements too. About whether he "generally" didn't date underage girls.

There's something wrong when Hannity is the only one defending you on Fox News.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuV_6qMYIkQ&t=2281s

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http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/361480-dem-senator-distraction-to-call-for-frankens-resignation

It would be a “distraction” so it’s not necessary for Franken to resign even if he is guilty.

But having the only Republican candidate step aside 2 weeks before the election and take away people’s right to vote for their choice not a distraction at all huh?

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I doubt the sincerity of “your team”

Not my team. I'm a left-leaning non-partisan. But I'm not going to protect sexual predators just because they are on my team.

Can team red say that about Moore?

no one is really being gotten rid of. All the people found guilty it admitting guilt are getting suspensions and rehabs and refusing to resign. just “reflecting” on what they have done and waiting for an ethics committee appointment where nothing eill happen.

Um, Moore?

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Mr. Bum: "I'm sure it was just a mistake on your part, but just to be clear, I didn't say this."

Yup! It logged me out and when I logged in and started retyping my message I had read a new one added by you while addressing Blacklabel's previous post... and needless to say made a mistake. Thanks for calling me out on it (see, Trump supporters! When we make a mistake we can admit it). :) Sorry about that!

Blacklabel: "But having the only Republican candidate step aside 2 weeks before the election and take away people’s right to vote for their choice not a distraction at all huh?"

It's quite funny to watch you guys deflect and question the timing of it and therefore saying it's doubtful when you did FAR more than embrace Comey's release of new emails by Clinton not long before the election and went on to call her a criminal that should be jailed (some said executed). Now, the situation differs in that THAT was clearly political, whereas in this case the women are coming out when they are because it's happening everywhere and women are empowered, and also because Comey said he was wrong in doing it when he did, etc., but I am just pointing to the hypocrisy on your part.

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These women had FORTY years and multiple election cycles to come forward. Sometimes too late is simply too late.

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We not protecting Moore. Prove he did it under John Conyer’s claim of “I didn’t do it and I deserve due process” and he is gone.

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BlacklabelToday  10:20 pm JST

These women had FORTY years and multiple election cycles to come forward. Sometimes too late is simply too late.

A bit like all the women who have been speaking up to accuse Hollywood VIPs of sexual harassment or abuse years after the facts, then. The Al Franken case you referred to happened a while ago as well, as I recall. Are those women simply too late too?

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> BlacklabelToday  10:23 pm JST

We not protecting Moore

You're all alone protecting this alleged peado, Gospodin Black. There is no "we".

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It's important to look at the context of the situations. Franken groped and forcibly kissed an adult woman, owned up to and apologized for it, and was forgiven by his single accuser.

And now another woman came out and reported that she was groped by Franken and from the growing ethics hearing it looks very much like Franken is in serious hot water and calls for him to resign are growing louder.

Now look at the multitude of accusations and their context for Moore and Trump, their responses (Trump said one of the women was too ugly to harass), and keep in mind one of Moore's accusers was 14 at the time of the incident.

40 years ago....so strange. Something tells me, if we didn't have an election going on right now, this all probably wouldn't come out now.

I wasn't aware of him, but appearenty the House Ethics Committee launched an investigation Tuesday, November 21st. If there's evidence or corroboration that points to a pattern of sexual harassment, he should resign too.

Interesting that the last and latest accused and alleged perpetrators all 29 of them are Democrats. Now it's not a partisan issue for me, but....sure looks very bad. Maxine Waters used to praise Conyers as a champion of the women....yeah, right. Well, that killed that perception.

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New GOP slogan: "Pedofiles over liberals."

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BlacklabelNov. 22  10:23 pm JST

We not protecting Moore. Prove he did it under John Conyer’s claim of “I didn’t do it and I deserve due process” and he is gone.

Can someone please explain to these pedophila apologists the difference between an elected office and a criminal trial? They don't seem to get it.

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2 more accusers for Franken and another for Conyers. Conyers announced he will not resign because no one should have to resign just for allegations.

ABC news said we all leaders are human and flawed but there is a difference between those who work for the common good and those who don’t care about it at all.

Let me guesss”common good” =“Dems” so they are allowed to commit crimes with no resignations or consequences.

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BlacklabelToday  12:17 pm JST

Conyers announced he will not resign because no one should have to resign just for allegations.

That's Roy Moore's view as well. I don't see you criticising him, so unless there's a double standard here it's not a problem, right? They should either both go or both stay. Or do you think Moore should stay in the Alabama race while Conyers resigns?

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im for equality. Both stay or both go.

Franken and Conyers not going so until then Moore stays. Fair to me.

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why is the lawyer for the Moore accuser on tv saying that even if the yearbook inscription is fake, doesn’t mean the allegations are....?

shouldnt she be saying it’s NOT fake??

Moore will win then he can go to same ethics Committee that Conyers and Franken will go, and can get the same punishment after he and Conyers get their “due process”

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They should either both go or both stay. Or do you think Moore should stay in the Alabama race while Conyers resigns?

I think it should be left up to the voters of Minneapolis and Alabama to decide for themselves.

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the voters of Minneapolis

Conyers represents Michigan in the House. And Minneapolis isn’t a state.

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