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Prigozhin says Kremlin factions are destroying the Russian state

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By Guy Faulconbridge

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"....Kremlin factions were destroying the state by trying to sow discord between him and Chechen fighters."

Good, very, very good!

Taking such good care of themselves.

Soon the Russian Empire under murderous dictator PUTAin will be gone.

The wannabe emperor hiding in his bunker, Wagnerites and Chechens fighting eachother, anti-PUTAin Russian forces fighting in Russia already .... keep on going like this!

Ukraine prevails!

Slava Ukraini!

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Prigozhin says Kremlin factions are destroying the Russian state

Sounds like Soviet Union era leadership crisis

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He also again vented his anger about the current state of the war 

Simple solution, all Prizoghin has to do is bring his baby killers back to Russia, put them back in prison, and for the Chechen butcher to bring his baby killers back to their homes in the Russian Federation, and keep them there.

Putin seems to be unraveling along with his state, will the world see the Soviet Union collapse redux? What is worrying is which fascist faction will. take the most nukes from the Russian arsenal. And given Russian people seem to prefer to be ruled by a brutal tyrant, which rough beast slouching toward Moscow time has come around at last (apologies to Yeats).

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they are simply destroying the Russian state

That would be such a shame.

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That’s quite the dumpster fire they’ve got going on over there.

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Gcbel,you forgot Ukraine

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Are you people engaged in imperialist political erotica? It's plain as day he's doing the time-tested Russian strategy of downplaying their own strength, inviting their enemies to attack.

On a more serious note, one senior Zelensky advisor has come out and said the famous spring counter offensive can't go ahead because Ukraine lacks the weapons. Zelesnky himself says Ukraine is going to suffer massive losses. Zaluzny has been sidelined because he refuses to take part in it. But Western regimes at the highest levels are still demanding the Ukraine goes ahead with the offensive.

Rulers of Western regimes are so bloodthirsty and ruthless, they make ISIS look like a group of choir boys.

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There's a lot of corruption and favoritism within the Kremlin, including Prigozhin himself, so what does he expect?

How do ya think a mercenary guy like himself even got so close to Putin?

What comes around, goes around

Rulers of Western regimes are so bloodthirsty and ruthless, they make ISIS look like a group of choir boys.

Ya realize Russia has been sending waves and waves of fresh cadets with just few months training and even, in the Wagner Group's case, criminals recruited out of prisons as cannon fodder, right? They've been trying to overwhelm the Ukrainian forces by sheer numbers

That's why Russia has been suffering so many losses - because Russia doesn't care if they die. Russia doesn't even honor their soldiers who die on national media - they hide those who died, and only local funerals with close family even know when they're buried

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Sounds like another Russian missile attack on Ukrainian cities may be underway. Stay safe, Ukrainians!

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Sounds like another Russian missile attack on Ukrainian cities may be underway. Stay safe, Ukrainians!

nonsesne. According to the "free press", Russia ran out of missiles over a year ago.

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Sven - you can choose to believe who you want to believe. We shall see soon enough.

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Sounds like another Russian missile attack on Ukrainian cities may be underway. Stay safe, Ukrainians!

It's almost certainly the remaining Patriots firing the US$4.5 missiles only for them to land in parks, on busy roads, into rivers and unfortunately, slam into apartment buildings.

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Sven - again, you can choose who you want to believe, but there are air raid warning sirens over a huge chunk of Ukraine. Do you seriously not think that there are Russian missiles incoming? Why would you doubt that?

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If your two handpicked private warlords are fighting one another, then both team up to disparage and ridicule your Defense Minister...

You know you may be losing...

But as hermetically sealed off and catered to by only "yes-men", you have to wonder if Putin even knows how bad off he is...

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Prigozhin, a 62-year-old former criminal and convict and now a war criminal.

Yevgeny Prigozhin said that of the estimated 40,000 convicted criminals conscripted into service, there were about 5,000 men who survived six months of service and have since been pardoned and released.

https://nypost.com/2023/04/24/wagners-convict-soldiers-are-back-in-russia-and-accused-of-murders/

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Lostrone2

Ya realize Russia has been sending waves and waves of fresh cadets with just few months training and even, in the Wagner Group's case, criminals recruited out of prisons as cannon fodder, right? They've been trying to overwhelm the Ukrainian forces by sheer numbers

You realize this is nothing close to the truth right?

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Sven - again, you can choose who you want to believe, but there are air raid warning sirens over a huge chunk of Ukraine. Do you seriously not think that there are Russian missiles incoming? Why would you doubt that?

Why would I think the so-called incoming Russian missiles are actually misfiring Patriot missiles?

一: Because the "free press" assured us Russia ran out of missiles about a year ago.

二: There is video of the Patriots falling and exploding all over Kiev. Along with video of the aftermath of the ones not captured on video. One very smart Ukrainian videoed and uploaded shrapnel with English writing and said it's proof Russia is getting missile components from Western regimes.

It wouldn't be the first time. USA economically propped up Nazi Germany until 1944. But in this case the Ukrainian is probably just pretending to be dumb otherwise what he was uploading would be illegal. And what's not yet illegal is residents of Kiev demanding the Patriots be removed from Kiev so they can have some peace.

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Because the "free press" assured us Russia ran out of missiles about a year ago.

Are you seriously trying to deny that Russia has been firing missiles at Ukrainian cities for the last several months? That is some highly conspiratorial thinking when even the Russians themselves admit they are doing so. I know that the fog of war is real, but one thing that everyone on either side can agree on is that Russia is firing missiles at Ukrainian cities. What are you going to deny next? That Russian forces are inside Ukraine?

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USA economically propped up Nazi Germany until 1944.

Lol, the Nazi U-boats were sinking US mercenary ships going to Britain even before Germany declared war on the US

Remember, it was Russia and Stalin who signed an agreement deal with the devil Hitler after the Nazis invaded Poland

Ya realize Russia has been sending waves and waves of fresh cadets with just few months training and even, in the Wagner Group's case, criminals recruited out of prisons as cannon fodder, right? They've been trying to overwhelm the Ukrainian forces by sheer numbers

You realize this is nothing close to the truth right?

"Prigozhin Says 20K Wagner Fighters Killed in Battle for Bakhmut"

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/05/24/prigozhin-says-20k-wagner-fighters-killed-in-battle-for-bakhmut-a81259

Russia's Wagner mercenary group lost 20,000 fighters while fighting for the eastern Ukrainian city of Bakhmut, half of which were convicts recruited from prisons, the group's leader Yevgeny Prigozhin said in an interview published late Tuesday.

Prigozhin, a Kremlin-linked catering magnate, has relied heavily on convicts from Russian prisons to fuel Wagner's offensive in eastern Ukraine, particularly in Bakhmut, the scene of the longest and bloodiest battle in Moscow's 15-month Ukraine offensive.

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Because the "free press" assured us Russia ran out of missiles about a year ago.

no they didn't. This is something you have either imagined or been misinformed about (or are perhaps being genuinely disingenuous about).

Either way, this is false. One thing everyone has always known is that Russia has plenty of missiles. What is lacks is ground force capabilities to take Ukraine - hence its failure to take more than a slither of Ukrainian land after 15 months of fighting.

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“Russia May Run Out of Missiles in Three Months: Intelligence Report”

BY ZOE STROZEWSKI ON 1/27/23 AT 4:55 PM EST

”intelligence” lied again and the media pushed the narrative (as did posters here)

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“Russia Is Running Out of Missiles, Ukraine Security Chief Says. Danilov sees enough for three, four more missile barrages. No evidence Iran has shipped additional drones, Danilov says”

ByVolodymyr Verbyany and Olesia Safronova- December 15, 2022

liars.

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Men have big egos. Especially ones with guns and lots of money involved.

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Same crowd still talking their nonsense even though it has nothing to do with the story. Any turmoil within the Russian leadership is good for Ukraine. Your noise about missiles this and that is pointless.

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Hehe, it's good to see the Soviet Putin stooges at each other throats. Hopefully Ukraine will soon give them something to focus their minds on.

What a tragic comical shambles Russia has become.

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Should also add, any turmoil within the Russian leadership is good for the Russian people too. It is in their interests to resist their government and bring an end to this war.

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Prigozhin, a 62-year-old former restauranteur ...

(And EX-CON) - a trivial detail left out of the report that might detract from the veracity of his outbursts. Still, Prigozhin is an important piece on Putin's chessboard and Kadyrov with his gang of bloodthirsty goons are players, too. Like a spider and a scorpion, they'll never get along. None of this toxic rivalry among these two thuggish gangsters bodes well for a Russian happy end.

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Prigozhin has been a drama queen for a long time. No surprise he continues this.

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Bro, thanks for the reality check.

Turkey shoot sounds awesome. My question is, what are they waiting for then? Might as well get on with it. Just fire off a few hundred decoys, yeah! Unless...

It's undeniable that "experts" were claiming that Russians had run out of missiles by April of last year.

The reality of the situation is that the vast majority of the missiles Russia fires are just empty decoys.

They are little just metal tubes with propellant and almost no electronics or explosives.

Their purpose is to tease the Ukrainian Air defences to fire off their S300 rockets until their depleted.

That is also why Russia uses loiter drones, they buzz around and goad the S300 operators to take them out.

Once Ukraine's S300 system is depleted, they are sitting ducks and the Russian air force can do to Ukraine what it did in northern Syria. It'll be a turkey shoot.

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blacklabel: “Russia May Run Out of Missiles in Three Months: Intelligence Report” - ”intelligence” lied again and the media pushed the narrative (as did posters here)

Uh, yeah. That determination was made by an Estonian Intelligence Officer. Because we're all getting our info from him.

“Russia Is Running Out of Missiles, Ukraine Security Chief Says."

Again, uh, yeah. I'm seeing that picked up by Bloomberg, a Facebook post, and a bunch of sites neither of us have heard of before. In fact, your post is #11 in the Google search result and it was posted a few hours ago. Such Western Media Narrative juggernauts reaching hundreds of millions of people...

Try showing articles that actually have some reach before you telling us what "the evil media" is doing. At the very least choose one where a Facebook post isn't in the top 5 results.

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Meanwhile, black, shall we check your narrative? The ones made days before the invasion are pretty funny. And there are dozens of them.

"Do you think Russia will invade Ukraine? no they will not" - Feb 14, 2022

"The facts that there is no invasion and most likely wont be any.” - Feb 17, 2022

"So we still on “tomorrow” for the invasion? Or is it “next week” now?" Feb 20, 2022

Oh, you were riding so high on the sarcasm back when you turned out to be wrong!

How about after the invasion? I like this one best:

"although I dont think they are really being "invaded" yet." - Feb 24, 2022

Perhaps you should clean up your own house before pointing to media sources no one's reading to create your own narrative. Your position was ultimately humiliation. Learn from it.

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That’s only part of the fake stage play to make the West inattentive and luring into losses. Those factions and also some of opposing oligarchs or small armed partisan groups, that’s all not such a significant threat, because the system is much bigger and uniformed, consisting of the army , security forces, if necessary taking over everything, and an overwhelming support rate in the population, which mostly lives in smaller towns and villages and is only connected by a very few state media and the Orthodox Church. Those are the four decisive forces, so to say. In doubt they are all finally Russians, with same heritage and history, standing behind whoever is in Kremlin with a support rate of at least 90% plus x. You have to look into the countless villages in that huge country to know the further development, not when a critical punk or rock band plays an opposing song in a hidden club in Moscow or St.Petersburg or Prigozhin shouts some vulgar comments into his Twitter account.

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Factions within the Russian oligarchy are bad for that country. Well, that makes sense to me. The mere existence of a dictatorial oligarchy is outrageous.

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After the Russians take the ass kicking they so desperately deserve, the country may very well break apart and they can kill each other instead of bothering us.

Good.

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Time for peace, all this death and destruction is driving many people in the world potty.

Ukraine, despite its financial and military support from the West cannot win this terrible conflict.

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Putin has no interest in peace.

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wallace

Neitwhr of the leaders day mate, only themselves and their image, that’s why we are in this awful situation. Both of them are incredibly stubborn and think they know better than advisers with much more experience.

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One player is an invader and war criminal killing more than 10,000 Ukrainians bombing schools, hospitals, and civilian housing. Totally destroyed the city of Bakhmut. Abducted more than 50,000 Ukrainian children and took them away from their families to live in camps in Russia. The name of the player is Putin.

The other player is defending his country and people. The name of the player is Zelenskyy.

Putin cannot be awarded for his illegal invasion of a sovereign country.

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Time for peace, all this death and destruction is driving many people in the world potty.

Great idea! Tell your over lord to pick up his guys and his crap, and go home.

Problem solved.

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