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Primary apathy in Michigan: Democrats, GOP struggle as supporters mull whether to even vote

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By JOEY CAPPELLETTI

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Those voters aren't stupid, they can not be deceive. Uncommitted happen for something.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/beyond-genocide-joe-this-election-year-muslim-american-voters-at-crossroads

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VOTE, by not voting your are giving a free ticket to the very same person you oppose.

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Presidents seldom have an effect on the economy, but Biden certainly has. With his onshoring initiatives and green spending, he's creating jobs now and placing America better able to handle problems of the future. As for age: the presidency is not an athletic competition. Biden, with his decades of experience in the Senate and as vice president under Obama, is uniquely qualified both to identify priorities and to achieve concrete actions towards them. I look forward to the next four years.

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Interesting to see how bad the MI Muslim and Arab backlash is against Biden due to GAZA genocide war, and youth as well, their turnout.

Other key area, automotive, Biden's EV and green polices making union workers none too happy!

Last, Nikki, she outspent Trump 15 to 1 in SC and got beat by +20pts. Expect Trump to spend much more in this KEY battleground state, Nikki to lose by +30 to even 40 points. Just maybe she'll drop out before Super Tue.

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Interesting to see how bad the MI Muslim and Arab backlash is against Biden due to GAZA genocide war, and youth as well, their turnout.

And yet, even they are overwhelmingly in support of Biden over Trump.

Last, Nikki, she outspent Trump 15 to 1 in SC and got beat by +20pts.

Um, Trump, the incumbant, only got 60% in South Carolina, the capital of MAGA. If you don't know the relevance of that, November is going to be a biiiiig shock to you.

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Most don't understand how BAD border polices and High Prices are for Biden with electorate. Consider, betting markets now give M. Obama, G. Newsome & K. Harris, combined +25% Chance of WINNING Presidency.

Obviously, Joe needs to step aside for them to run, assuming each has 50% chance to win against Trump, now LIKELY Joe decides not to run, delegates and super delegates will select nominee, Chicago DNC in Aug.

Expect MI democrat primary to be a sleeper, as most believe Biden not even running again. R's will be more interesting, Trump's going to go big on advertising.

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There are no serious Michigan polls taken in 2024 that have Biden beating Trump, just the opposite.

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There are no serious Michigan polls taken in 2024 that have Biden beating Trump, just the opposite.

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If Arab-Americans think Biden is bad, wait till ya see president Trump.

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It will be interesting to see how the AbondonBiden Coalition has an impact. I have lost count of the number of times he has vetoed a UN ceasefire. About the number of times he has bearhugged Bibi would be a good guess.

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 Trump's going to go big on advertising.

Considering how broke he is, I highly doubt it.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4488184-trumps-colossal-legal-fees-are-draining-his-campaign-at-the-worst-time/

Let's face it, he's a stone cold loser.

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If Arab-Americans think Biden is bad, wait till ya see president Trump.

He can’t kick out American citizens. Right?

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Presidents seldom have an effect on the economy, but Biden certainly has.

So they have an effect if they are Republicans, but not when they’re Democrats except when it involves Biden? You guys are just all over the place. Jeez!

With his onshoring initiatives and green spending,

EV sales have been declining in the U.S.

he's creating jobs

Blacks and Latinos have a very different outlook.

now and placing America better able to handle problems of the future.

79% of the nation disagree with that statement.

As for age: the presidency is not an athletic competition. Biden, with his decades of experience in the Senate

We know, his 1994 crime bill, who could forget it, blacks definitely don’t.

and as vice president under Obama, is uniquely qualified both to identify priorities and to achieve concrete actions towards them. I look forward to the next four years.

That’s like saying, you’re hoping for a Hillary win.

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Most buy into this Trump's broke and going to jail mainstream media narrative. Couple facts.

1) He's sitting on several billion in real estate equity at minimum.

2) Truth Social about to IPO, analysts project Trump's stock (granted he's locked up/can't sell) will be worth approx. $4B

3) His people RUN RNC, including his daughter-in-law Laura who's tough & smart, that means $$$$$ for Trump

4) Court cases going well if you care to listen to those knowledgeable and objective, e.g. Appeal of NYC case will likely result in NY having to pay him serious damages and all his legal fees. Documents in FL not likely to happen b/4 election. GA case complete unethical collapse. Immunity case, biggest unknown, just maybe Mr. Smith is not duly appointed to bring case, as AG did not get his Senate approval, SCOTUS may not be in any rush to let this case interfere in Nov election etc.

5) War chest and huge #supporters providing $

6) All legal expenses tax deductible

7) Record fast primary projected for non-incumbent, projected by March 12th to have majority of delegates

8) Easy to raise money when betting markets consider you the strong favorite

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Most buy into this Trump's broke and going to jail mainstream media narrative. Couple facts.

He is broke. He doesn't have the liquidity to pay the fines levied against him.

He campaign is bleeding money. That is a fact. They spent more money in January than they brought in. The Biden campaign brought in 3 times what Trump brought. That is a fact.

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8) Easy to raise money when betting markets consider you the strong favorite

I hope you are betting something. Such a sure bet, you cannot lose!

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3) His people RUN RNC, including his daughter-in-law Laura who's tough & smart, that means $$$ for Trump

lol, I'm old enough to remember a time before the GOP was highjacked by a crime family. Reap what you sow, Repubs!

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Fact is betting markets do not believe Biden will likely be on the ticket/see above. It's not my opinion, that's what bookies are reflecting, along with Trump being heavy favorite, about 3:1 versus Biden today.

Border/immigrants, economy, high prices, inflation, crime, Ukraine, etc., top voter issues favor Trump, winning in key battleground polling more than nationally.

MI blowout for Trump, remains to be seen uncommitted vote against Biden, as Gaza Genocide continues. US Muslims, Arabs and Youth are NOT Happy with Biden, as US & MI voters want change, back to peace & prosperity!

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MI blowout for Trump, remains to be seen uncommitted vote against Biden, as Gaza Genocide continues. US Muslims, Arabs and Youth are NOT Happy with Biden, as US & MI voters want change, back to peace & prosperity!

lol No it's not. Michigan is not a blow out for Trump.

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Low information youth better find out real fast how a two party system works.

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You KNOW if Jamie Daimon talks kindly about Trump "being right about many things" at Davos, sure sign Biden's finished, only question, Aug DNC or Nov election? MI will be canary in the coal mine for Biden, insiders in a state of panic as Trump machine rolls.

SC Hur Report a dagger, US Colorado Republican Congressman now seeking removal of Biden in 25th Amendment House bill, serious vote coming soon. Biden's TOAST.

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HSE - don't meddle in our elections, please.

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Interesting about foreign US election interference. Many probably suspect Hamas Oct 7th was tool to trigger US electoral consequences in part. Especially MI, given their large number of Muslims and Arabs.

Certainly, US adversaries understand that the greater global destabilization, more concerned US voters will become regarding Biden's capacity to manage and why his policies are resulting in such destabilization.

However, just look at illegal immigration, not some foreign conspiracy, just lousy Biden changes to good policy. What could be destabilizing than millions of undocumented people pouring into US? Voters don't like it.

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He is broke. He doesn't have the liquidity to pay the fines levied against him.

Had no idea you know all of his finance’s, the man is far, far from being broke.

He campaign is bleeding money.

And raising it.

That is a fact.

They spent more money in January than they brought in. The Biden campaign brought in 3 times what Trump brought. That is a fact.

What you say is true, but Hillary had more money than Trump and still lost, so….

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Had no idea you know all of his finance’s, the man is far, far from being broke.

You have no idea either, yet reports suggest he doesn't have enough cash to pay the fines.

And raising it.

Yes, and then spending more than he takes in. I think there's a word for this situation. What is it?

What you say is true, but Hillary had more money than Trump and still lost, so….

Right, and when you reread what I was responding to, you'll find I said I was specifically addressing the notion that Trump is about to do a "big" advertising spend in Michigan. We both agree the Trump campaign is bleeding cash, therefore I don't believe Trump is about to spend on a big advertising spend in Michigan.

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You have no idea either,

I do, not as to the amount, but he has money, because if he didn’t have money, he could be in jail right now, he would be panicking, there would be no way he could run, so appeal is coming and if they lose it, they’ll get the money

yet reports suggest he doesn't have enough cash to pay the fines.

The same people that kept saying over and over and over again for years and years, that he’s finished, yeah OK….

Yes, and then spending more than he takes in.

And money is still going in

I think there's a word for this situation. What is it?

“Never up, never give in.”

Right, and when you reread what I was responding to, you'll find I said I was specifically addressing the notion that Trump is about to do a "big" advertising spend in Michigan.

Cool!

We both agree the Trump campaign is bleeding cash, therefore I don't believe Trump is about to spend on a big advertising spend in Michigan.

I disagree with your first and second statements.

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“Never up, never give in.”

lol That's "phrase," not a "word."

Cool!

Yes, reading what someone wrote and replying with an appropriate response is indeed "cool."

I disagree with your first and second statements.

Cool.

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Trump's correctly saving resources for general election, there's reason he's one of richest people in the world.

Trump will spend on MI ads as precursor to Nov. But most Super Tue states not swing-states, so he'll not spend as he's got delegate nomination math locked up.

Again, Nikki outspent Trump 15 to 1 in SC, got crushed.

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Trump's correctly saving resources for general election, there's reason he's one of richest people in the world.

Yes, Trump is "saving resources" be bleeding money to pay for his legal expenses. Some of the smartest people are saying this. ;)

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I do, not as to the amount, but he has money, because if he didn’t have money, he could be in jail right now, he would be panicking, there would be no way he could run, so appeal is coming and if they lose it, they’ll get the money

Sounds like a sweet tier of justice to be in. How does one join?

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Yes, Trump is "saving resources" be bleeding money to pay for his legal expenses. Some of the smartest people are saying this. ;)

Well, when he goes on TV and says I can’t pay these court fees anymore, then you can sit back and smile, until then, it’s probably never going to happen for the left

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