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By LARRY NEUMEISTER NEW YORK©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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The Avenger
Epstein, Maxwell and anyone that was involved are human garbage, regardless of politics. That should not be controversial. Let the chips fall where they may.
starpunk
Sex trafficking, perversion, prostitution and exploitation are never defendable and nobody is above the law. Andrew's past actions are well documented from Koo Stark to today. As for that photo he has a lot of explaining to do. A LOT.
Fighto!
Mummy is supporting him and paying his massive legal fees. Shameful.
Lock the trash up!
stormcrow
If Prince Andrew is innocent, then he's certainly taking a rather strange round about way to avoid proving it.
starpunk
If he's innocent then what's he got to hide? Why did he try to stop the info release? His very actions and all his blubbering are an unbrilliant disguise. Just like Kavanaugh, just like Trump and just like Clinton when fingers were pointed at him for doing something stupid but not illegal in 1998.
bass4funk
Well, to be fair, he is innocent until proven guilty and that fact hasn’t been established yet.
No, nothing has been remotely established that even a crime has taken place. Stop falling into the left conspiracy echo chamber.
So, what he did should be excused? Guy, you say so very often questionable statements…
bass4funk
Never, I have always maintained that a person in innocent until proven guilty, nothing has changed.
Still
OJ was something completely different.
We know. But still, he’s innocent until proven guilty
bass4funk
Proof?
Always
cleo
Mortified to find I'm kinda agreeing with bass.
I've got no time for Randy Andy - when I saw the photos put out during his courtship of Fergie, I couldn't help thinking what a skin-crawling creep he looked then, and my opinion since hasn't changed.
But at the same time, I don't get this Virginia Guiffre person. By her own account at the time she was 17, above the legal age in the UK where the assault is said to have occurred. That's slimy, but not illegal.
And if she considered it assault the first time, why on earth did she continue seeing him, and hanging out with the Epstein crowd? What's with the big smile and leaning into Andy in the famous photo? She doesn't look like she's being forced into anything in any photo. Why didn't she kick up a fuss then, to stop it happening to her again and to stop it happening to other girls?
She was not a child, she was just stupid. She should give herself a sharp slap up the back of the head for her misspent youth, and get on with her life. And if she has any kids, to raise them to be a bit smarter than she was.
cleo
The 14 year-olds are a different story. I don’t think Andrew has been accused of messing around with children. If it turns out that he did, then by all means throw the book at him.
Sex traffic victims are those who are too young to make rational decisions, and those who are coerced into prostitution through poverty, threats, confiscation of passports, etc. Not 17 year-olds dressed to the nines, jetting around the world with rich men, taking smiley photos and staying in posh hotels and palaces.
bass4funk
There is no way of knowing unless he testifies, is cross-examined, witnesses on both sides are called and it all goes to trial, but we are talking about the legal judicial system, but as an individual and private outsider giving an opinion, I do feel he is guilty just like in the case of OJ, but personal opinions matter little in a legal system, public opinion is a different story though.
snowymountainhell
Netflix has four-part miniseries, “Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich” (2020), that well-documents the ‘grooming’ of these teenage girls Ghislaine Maxwell performed to later put them in a position to be raped by Epstein. Judge for yourself from their own testimonials if you belief they voluntarily participated or were systematically trafficked.
cleo
….so I was non compos mentis when I determined my future life by marrying in my mid-twenties? I don’t think so.
On whether it’s a good idea to crawl into bed with a selection of creepy older men?
Yes I do. If they’re not old enough to work that out, what are their parents doing letting them out by themselves?
I’m not defending Andrew, I think he’s a total creep. But Guiffre is no innocent victim, either. If she didn’t know what she was doing then she needs to sue the people who raised her and let her go chasing after men with money, not the moneyed creeps she let into her bed.