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Heroism.

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Thank you, #MarinaOvsyannikova.

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Good for her!

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Hero. I hope she ends up ok.

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I applaud her bravery but now fear for her safety. I don’t think this will end well for her. I hope she convinced more of her fellow citizens to take a similar stand and let their voices be heard.

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There are two types of Russian. Those that support the war and those that don’t.

The third type is those that daren't not support the war.

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There are two types of Russian. Those that support the war and those that don’t.

yut?? regardless what they say these days, women are born with the innate life mission of giving love, nutrition, health and affection to us humans, where do you see women starting or even supporting conflicts/war? It's against their very nature.

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Will the invasion of Ukraine become for Russia what the Vietnam War became for the USA?

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There is obviously an undercurrent of dissent about this, in Russia. As much as authorities try to keep a lid on it thank god there are some people brave enough to point the finger and say”Your Wrong, we know your wrong you know your wrong”

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"We were silent in 2014 when this was all just beginning," she said, apparently referring to Moscow's takeover of Crimea and support for Ukraine's pro-Russian separatists.

That is a bit of an assumption, isn't it? Couldn't she just as easily be talking about the (US-backed) coup that kicked all of this off? Not saying that is what she meant, but it is a really big assumption either way.

One can be anti-war and still see the causes of the conflict for what it is afterall.

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Will the invasion of Ukraine become for Russia what the Vietnam War became for the USA?

No that was Afghanistan. It may well become for Russia what Afghanistan was for the US though....

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Brave girl! Hopefully she’s OK.

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Very brave.

Unfortunately if that woman is still alive, she doesn't have any fingernails or toenails now.

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Just don't know if this is fake news or not? Seems very unlikely to enter an on-air studio while on-air.

She’s an editor at the same studio. Presumably she had security access.

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Well, in social media there are also people who say she was stupid and deserves to go to a gulag.

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Will the invasion of Ukraine become for Russia what the Vietnam War became for the USA?

This invasion could be a replay, albeit shorter of both Russia and America's failed invasions of Afghanistan. A big difference for Russia is unlike Afghanistan thousands of Russians won't bring their drug addictions back home with them. But like Afghanistan, many wounded Russian veterans of the Ukraine invasion probably will be left physically disabled and on the streets begging, because Putin and his oligarchs do not want to share the wealth with them.

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We were silent in 2014 when this was all just beginning," she said, apparently referring to Moscow's takeover of Crimea and support for Ukraine's pro-Russian separatists.

That is a bit of an assumption, isn't it? Couldn't she just as easily be talking about the (US-backed) coup that kicked all of this off?

No, she is speaking of the Russian support for anti Ukraine propaganda that she was made to produce. This is her experience and her thoughts on the crimes against Ukraine, starting in 2014 by Russia.

Neither her sign or speech mentioned anyone but Russia and Ukraine.

Your crude attempt to try and turn this against others is a despicable action of deflection.

Nobody caused this but Russia. Russia trying to "decide" for Ukraine , what Ukraine should do and want.

She and others at the news making organizations in Russia, obviously have more access to the truth and world news feeds. She understands the truth and stands up for half her heritage (Ukraine) while being sorry for her part in deceiving the Russian population about the real truth. She does not want war while Putin and Russian Channel one will not even admit it is a war. Shameful.

As others have stated she is now a heroine of Ukraine and of Russian truth.

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I’d say this was probably the last straw for Putin and Russia.

NATO recognises Ukraine as Enhanced Opportunities Partner 

12 Jun. 2020

On Friday (12 June 2020), the North Atlantic Council recognised Ukraine as an Enhanced Opportunities Partner. This status is part of NATO’s Partnership Interoperability Initiative, which aims to maintain and deepen cooperation between Allies and partners that have made significant contributions to NATO-led operations and missions.

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Why didn’t CNN tell me that?!

Are you asking why CNN isn't broadcasting news from 1994?

You'll have to ask them.

But it certainly exposes the lie of "muh nato expansion meens russia must attack" stuff, huh?

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Nobody caused this but Russia. Russia trying to "decide" for Ukraine , what Ukraine should do and want.

It started with a US-backed coup that pushed a fascist aligned government. 14,000 deaths over 8 years and most of the west was pretty silent on the topic. That is all readily documented and recorded.

None of that excuses the loss of life that has happened since, we can see that even the most delicate military operations will hurt innocents, but at the same time we can only now hope that it prevents further loss of life. Anything else is wishful thinking.

My point is that she could absolutely be against the current war and totally aware where the responsibilities lie. Those two things are not contradictory. Things are never that black and white outside of a superhero movie.

She and others at the news making organizations in Russia, obviously have more access to the truth and world news feeds. 

Sorry if I misunderstand you here, but to clarify are you saying the world news feeds are the truth, after everything we have seen recently? Or do you mean "The truth and world news feeds" as two separate entities? I don't want to put words in your mouth unfairly.

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 the most delicate military operations

They bombed a children's hospital.

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It started with a US-backed coup that pushed a fascist aligned government. 14,000 deaths over 8 years and most of the west was pretty silent on the topic. That is all readily documented and recorded.

This started with a Rigged by pro Russian election in Ukraine that was cancelled by the people of Ukraine. That has been well documented. The US had nothing to do with it but Russian deflection applies to that lie.

14,000 deaths caused by Pro Russians backed by Russia trying to steal Ukraine territory. Ukraine has the same right to kill insurgents and break-away terrorists as Russia did in Chechnya and its leveling of Grozny killing many thousands.

But some people can only do and think as their Russian masters tell them to do. It is ok for pro Russians to break away to join Russia but not ok for anti Russians to break away from Russia.

Russia had no thought for the people of Grozny it exterminated to keep them part of Russia.

But we must all have sympathy for the pro Russians trying to break away from their country to join Russia.

The true colors of some poster's in being Pro Russia and pro murder in Russia's cause but against all things not Pro Russia is well documented on JT.

I suggest you give it a rest. The world's majority are against your perspective and Russia's. That is not going to change except to get even worse than it is now. Trying to support murderers will sway nobody. Not deflection to third parties, not 180 accusations of atrocities supposedly committed by Ukraine and not the invocation of Neo Nazi's. Russia has become criminal murderers and has been since 2014 when it started this conflict. All deaths are on Putin's shoulders and those murder squads he has dispatched to Ukraine.

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Sorry if I misunderstand you here, but to clarify are you saying the world news feeds are the truth, after everything we have seen recently? Or do you mean "The truth and world news feeds" as two separate entities? I don't want to put words in your mouth unfairly.

All the worlds newsrooms have incoming news feeds from major sources around the world. When the vast majority show everything they can and one side is giving only propaganda that your own eyes have witnessed to be wrong from incoming multiple news feeds from many nations around the world. She had full access to that information and made up her own mind to fight misrepresentation by the Russian Media channel she worked for until that moment.

The world tells the truth as it see's it, from all sources. Russia no longer allows this and during it's invasion (that isn't to Russia) it tones down the killing it carries out, the bombing of civilians and tells the public it is after nazi's and to free Donbas region of Ukraine from Ukraine and get Ukraine to cede Crimea.

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All the worlds newsrooms have incoming news feeds from major sources around the world.

Many people, all over the world, have been poisoned by right-wing ideology that says, "anything that disagrees with you is a lie". Russia, and its media, panders to the right, and so people will instinctively trust anything that Russian state media says without question, while doubting independent media from any other country in the world. This has naturally lead to an increase in conspiracy theory thinking.

It is not a coincidence that those who think that Russia didn't try to influence US elections (despite evidence), who think that Covid is either fake or can be cured with unproven remedies (they think both of these at once), and who think that Trump won in 2020 but was robbed, despite no evidence to back that up, now say that Russia is doing nothing wrong.

Russia has played an absolute killer disinformation game.

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The US had nothing to do with it but Russian deflection applies to that lie.

While I don't disagree that there is propaganda on both sides, obviously, there is documented recordings of the US involvement in the coup. To say otherwise is to be oblivious of the fact, in which case I would recommend checking out Victoria Nuland's statements, or to be willfully dismissive.

Ukraine has the same right to kill insurgents and break-away terrorists as Russia did in Chechnya and its leveling of Grozny killing many thousands.

I disagree on both counts, I don't think Russia was in the right in that situation at all. That was a time that absolutely warranted censure, much more than now. I said as much back then, albeit on different forums. Same with American invasions of [insert country here]. It may come as a shock to you that I am not remotely pro-Russian government. I am a communist and Russia is very much not, any support they receive from us is critical support alone. Now if the opposition party somehow leveraged this into retaking control in Russia, that might change.

The world's majority are against your perspective and Russia's

Most of the world is not contained in America and Europe. You might find very different sentiments in the global south, in China or even India.

The world tells the truth as it see's it, from all sources. 

Not even remotely true, the amount of censorship ongoing in the West is staggering. Much self-inflicted, whcih truly you can do nothing about, but governments are banning news networks and social media platforms are just banning users with no warnings for the slightest deviation from the narrative.

Now I am not inherently against censorship, but the West does lose the ability to claim their much-vaunted freedom of speech when it censors as much as anywhere else.

Anyway, as much as I do enjoy our debates I am willing to leave it here as I don't think I will be changing your mind on the matter. I can only hope it ends up being educational for other readers.

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Most of the world is not contained in America and Europe. You might find very different sentiments in the global south, in China or even India.

Might they? Can you provide data to prove that Chinese and Indian civilians are in favor of the Russian invasion of the Ukraine?

Or are you speculating?

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Most of the world is not contained in America and Europe. You might find very different sentiments in the global south, in China or even India.

141 nations voted against Russian actions in Ukraine in the UN. Apart from Russia and Belarus only three other nations agreed with its action in Ukraine. 35 abstained from taking either side.

That is a clear indication that regardless of location, the majority of the worlds nations condmn Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Why even bother trying to "spin it" any other way. It is a statement from the world. Majority against Russia on this.

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141 nations voted against Russian actions in Ukraine in the UN. Apart from Russia and Belarus only three other nations agreed with its action in Ukraine. 35 abstained from taking either side.

That is a clear indication that regardless of location, the majority of the worlds nations condmn Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Why even bother trying to "spin it" any other way. It is a statement from the world. Majority against Russia on this.

Majority is a bit too ambitious to use in this as China and India make up nearly half of the world yet they didn’t vote against Russia! If you are talking in terms of human counts rather than country counts then again the same issue as not all Americans are against the invasion of Ukraine as some still support Putin. From former President Trump to Fox News personalities such as Tucker Carlson as well as some GOP members are still supporting Putin! People just live in an alternate world these days.

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Isn’t it amazing that Zelensky somehow gets to speak directly to the US Congress to pressure them to more actively take his side and draw the US into the war?

why would this be allowed?

https://thehill.com/homenews/the-memo/598191-the-memo-zelensky-virtual-address-raises-pressure-on-biden

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She will face the consequences of this action and won’t see daylight anytime soon. If she does walk away free than our image of Russia controlling its citizens by brainwashing and fear will need to be re-evaluated! Either way her actions probably was all in vain as nothing has changed from it apart from the western media and people who are already against the invasion commenting her bravery ( or stupidity- you be the judge )!

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Brave woman.

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Isn’t it amazing that Zelensky somehow gets to speak directly to the US Congress to pressure them to more actively take his side and draw the US into the war? 

why would this be allowed?

Didn’t you read the link you posted?

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Putin's Russia is functioning on old school USSR STATE SPONSERED propaganda mechanics. Plus it is actively known world wide Russia has been heavily engaged in severe disinformation tactics in other countries as well. It is even blatantly obvious on this site. The CCP has also been engaging in the exact same propaganda and disinformation as well.

I have always said this, "It is far easier to tell the TRUTH than it is to keep trying to cover for a lie."

Simple reason is because reality and facts will always be the winner in the long run. Putin has to LIE to Russia's own citizens. Putin had to LIE to his own military personnel! Putin is still trying to LIE to the rest of the world for his motives and goal of his invasion of Ukraine.

If it were such a concern about his reasons of Ukraine were based on facts and reality, then he would have been able to provide mountains of credible and actual proof of his claims to the rest of the world before he attacked. But he COULDN'T.

Why? Because it was a LIE. And if the "evidence" he tried to present was fake and made up by his own sources it would further show he lacks credibility. Not that he hasn't done that already by saying, "No, I have no plans to invade Ukraine....".

Putin is the boy who called wolf, and also thought he was the wolf in sheep's clothing. Nobody will ever trust a word that comes out of Russia's mouth again... Not even their own people.

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