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Yrral
Medvedev say arrest of Putin ,will result in a nuclear attack
falseflagsteve
Of course he will flaunt anyone who supports him, especially a man with such power in the world.
Zelensky has turned mad, I think because he feels invincible with the support of the West, which is actually quite small in a conflict of this size. He’s running out of men, turning to press ganging men on the streets with his thugs.
Putin is merely saying, ‘Oi Zelensky, I’ve got mates too’. All’s fair in love and war
2 mentally ill and dishonest men and who care nothing about the deaths of innocents, whatever lies comes out of their poisoned mouths. A ceasefire is needed and an end to this madness and slaughter of so many.
kurisupisu
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In fact, Kirby has stated that a ceasefire would be “unacceptable”
Somehow a ceasefire would allow Russia an advantage is the rationale?
What if the civilians suffering, dying and families ripped apart?
Yes, an end to killing and bloodshed and bombing is not what the US wants.
Cards fan
Yes Steve, mentally ill is when you want the invaders to leave your country.
A ceasefire on who's terms? Russia's? I think not.
Are you referring to the Ukrainian people, of which the vast majority of Ukrainians support fighting until they retake all of the illegally annexed territory? You'll have to forgive me for not believing you actually care about the civilians suffering in Ukraine.
albaleo
That's not news; it's opinion.
While I have no respect for Putin, news stories are increasingly being embedded with opinionated expressions. Just tell us what he did. We can form our own opinions.
fallaffel
The problem would be calling for a ceasefire without withdrawing all troops from Ukraine. China's peace point #1 is about respecting territorial integrity. Russia obviously has not done this, so what is the basis for peace?
This is just two bullies saying the smaller kid should give up their lunch money to avoid a beating.
TaiwanIsNotChina
There's the criminal pair. It's a shame Xi can be an indicted co-conspirator.
falseflagsteve
Card fan
Zelensky is as off his trolley as much as Putin, if he had the aforementioned mans resources and power who knows what terror he would inflict on innocent Russians. This is a long ongoing conflict, as far as the leaders go, neither is innocent.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Yes, it would. Russia hasn't been hobbled by attacks on its civilian infrastructure. Also we know Russia isn't true to its word and will restart the war when it is ready.
I'll remind people as many times as it takes that Kirby doesn't have to qualify everything all of the time just to keep talking points out of the hands of apologists.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Is that the step before going recruiting in prisons like Russia is?
Putin's "mate" pretends like he isn't in this war. At least until it is proven otherwise.
Much like in WW2, sometimes advocating for neutrality is the morally inferior position.
Cards fan
lol No Steve, he's not "off his trolley" and it's silly to even try and compare the two. One man is trying to illegally take over a country, and the other is trying to keep his country from being taking over. Amazing that just seems to fly over the head's of some.
Well good thing he doesn't have the resources and manpower to do so. All in all a despicable defense of the Putin regime. The two sides are not the same.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Sooo, the hypothetical war crimes of Zelensky are equivalent to the extensively documented war crimes of Putin? Not exactly a winning argument.
Sanjinosebleed
the US and its lapdogs are just getting more and more desperate with their claims. Yeh like a few Ukrainians with goggles and snorkels on a yacht blew up the Nord stream...Alot of people aren't silly enough to believe this Ra Ra the US is the best in the west baloney anymore! WMDs anyone?? The US is just a corrupt shell run by self interested politicians and the moneyed interests paying their bills!
The ICC has lost all credibility after this ludicrous ruling. I mean Kim jong un is OK but Putin isn't?? Funny I thought the US didn't recognize the ICC anyway??
quercetum
I believe Russia and China are working on a peace deal between Syria and Turkey and then Xi asks “so how are things in Ukraine?” I don’t think it’s “Good seeing ya. Let’s end this war. What can we do?”
Cards fan
Any thoughts on the corruption in Russia? Let's not pretend like you care about corruption, freedom, or democracy. What does America have to do with this article.
And maybe the fact that the US isn't part of ICC should give you pause before making such a ridiculous comment, but no.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Let's see, where to begin...
Soooo, the educated reader would deduce that Ukraine wasn't involved and ya gonna have to come up with some hard evidence if you wanna point the finger at someone else.
Sounds like somebody has a serious case of envy.
Kim Jong Un has never been at war. It would be pretty tough to get some hard evidence that the people are being starved to death on purpose.
And there we have the non-sequitur to finish it off.
quercetum
The first meeting of this 3 day trip was 4.5 hours. First trip for Xi after re-election.
TokyoLiving
For the envy and resentment of the decadent west, in especially the drama queen US..
These are the two most powerful men in the world and their alliance will bring us to a new free multipolar world..
The future will be RED..
Cards fan
Ah yes, the world envies Russia. :D
A yes, Russia and China, certainly are known for their "freedom." :D
lol Yes, Russia is very communist. Brilliant.
stormcrow
There’s a very fine line between Xi and Putin.
TaiwanIsNotChina
It is A powerful man and his dog he is taking for a walk presumably. FTFY.
PTownsend
That might have a tiny bit of believability to some, if Russia and China could have ever been be shown to be 'free' counties. Russians and Chinese throughout history have settled in countries far from their birth place in pursuit of freedom. Many Russians have recently fled the Russian Federation in search of freedom.
2020hindsights
In the Kremlin? I thought Putin was in Mariupol. Of course, we all know that Putin's body double went to Mariupol and not Putin himself.
Fighto!
Two authoritarian, democracy-hating, anti-freedom despots.
It won't happen overnight, but eventually these two scum are going to be put up against a wall by the Chinese and Russian people. It's how most despots usually end up.
wallace
The Putin guy in Mariupol had a large double chin which the real Putin does not have.
quercetum
Free from a unipolar world is how I read that and not a reference to the people. Countries would be free to join the US or apply to join BRICS like Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Mexico or play the field like Japan.
Blacklabel
The Incompetence of the US foreign policy is uniting all of our enemies against us.
seeing as we have most of our money and weapons to Ukraine and so did most of our allies, not sure we can fight 4 wars at once.
dangerous times when Russia and China are buddies with NK and Iran waiting for their turn to join the festivities.
TaiwanIsNotChina
What's there to the application? It's literally just not giving a damn about who you do business with. Also Mexico said Russia should take a hike out of Ukraine.
UChosePoorly
How is that different from today?
Cards fan
Enemies like? Russia and China? Iran and North Korea?
Would have been great to have a treaty in place preventing Iran from enriching uranium, if you want to talk "incompetence."
Blacklabel
Yep another foreign policy failure for the current guy. This administration can’t negotiate anything due to lack of credibility and ability.,
“Iran nuclear deal is 'dead', claims US President Joe Biden”
Cards fan
lol Nope. Who was the moron he got rid of it in the first place? Tell me more about incompetence.
Seapig
You should be referring to Putin and Xi, then I would agree with you 100%.
stormcrow
If Ukraine agrees to Xi's peace deal, they lost a lot of their country.
If Ukraine disagrees and continues fighting, Xi will probably send weapons to the little war criminal in the Kremlin.
This is not a peacemaker but a villain of peace.
And China wants to be the world leader? Ewww! What a trashy and ugly looking world that would be!
Blacklabel
There has been more than 2 years to renegotiate a better one.
if Iran is refusing it means they have always had no intention of abiding by it in the first place.
so Russia, China, NK and Iran all against this incompetent US “leadership”. India also kind of on the fence these days.
Really dangerous meeting that the US team is taking with zero seriousness.
Cards fan
Gee, it sure would have been nice if the Trump administration thought about having a new deal in place before shredding the one in place. That's pretty incompetent.
Lol what? We were the ones who broke the deal. Not Iran. Why would Iran trust the US after the Trump administration unilaterally shredded the existing one?
Ah so Russia is the bad guy here, and you want Ukraine to negotiate with them, which only strengthens their hand. Makes a lot of sense.
Rodney
Multi-polar world prevails
Seapig
Instead of “powerful” and “dangerous” correct them “incorrect” and “misleading” and you’ll probably have your answer…
TaiwanIsNotChina
You know what's worse than not negotiating effectively?
"I have President Putin, he just said it’s not Russia. I will say this, I don’t see any reason why it would be.”
Sanjinosebleed
You mean like the US and Saudi Arabia....yeh I know what's a few murdered journalists and "dissenters" between friends....
ClippetyClop
Xi may have an eye on that juicy part of Manchuria that the Soviets stole from China. after all, Putin isn't the only nutter in town who wants his old empire back.
In the meantime China can milk Russia for cheap resources and watch it get weaker and weaker.
China isn't Russia's ally in the long term, it's their rival.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Ya know, an honest assessment would tell you the following: there are two poles in the world today, the US and China and the US is far wealthier per capita. If you're hoping for Russia to be resurgent again, you're going to be waiting a long time for Russia to gain x10 its gdp.
TaiwanIsNotChina
How much oil does the US use from Saudi Arabia? The US' list of favored dictators is like 1. Russia's is like dozens including Iran which is just as bad as SA.
Blacklabel
Wouldn’t that be the entire reason they exist? To correct things the previous people did?
or just do nothing and blame others is the job description? If so they doing GREAT.
elephant200
China's peace plan was derived and written on paper from the idea of Henery Kissinger. The West should feel happy and applauding China's efforts of bring peace to Ukraine.
Cards fan
It's kinda hard to fix after Trump screwed up so badly. Not only did he unilaterally tear up the agreement that Iran was following, they then went and assassinated one of the Iranian leaders.
Also, I'd like to point out:
Then it's pretty funny to blame Biden administration "incompetence." Lol
Eastman
today they will talk about peace plan.
multipolar world still exists dear USA.
elephant200
China and Russia are not just friends but IRON BROTHERS fought in the same trench. In Stalin/Mao days: Soviet Union, China, North Korea together we fought the US & her puppet armies in the Korean war. Chinese,North Koreans fought on the ground, Soviet pilots flew fighter jets in the air. Together the three countries stopping hostile forces marching to Yalu river.
RichardPearce
So, the Chinese peace plan is essentially what the US agreed was reasonable TWICE, but the US has dictated it is unacceptable.
Why?
Possibly because between China and Russia, the US and Zelensky's regime would have to actually live up to the terms.
Blacklabel
The US focus is on totally insignificant things while all of this danger is happening right in front of their face.
not even on the main page of several US “news sites”
TaiwanIsNotChina
After their puppet got stomped for doing stupid stuff yeah.
That's why they fought together in the Sino-Vietnam war, right? :-)
Cards fan
And yet you want the US to stop providing Ukraine with weapons so they'll be forced to negotiate with Russia. Do you think that'll do anything but help Russia? I certainly don't.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Sigh. So much nonsense. Let's go with Article 1 of the China plan: Russia should withdraw from Ukraine. Still waiting on that.
TaiwanIsNotChina
I'll take that as an acknowledgement that we don't spend enough of defense. In any event, pathetic is losing to No. 40 on the military expenditure list with no navy or air force.
TaiwanIsNotChina
A Russian withdrawal needs to be achieved in Ukraine.
I sincerely doubt Russia can subjugate Ukraine completely.
If Putin thinks we should all go to ww3 because of the Ukraine situation then he's as much a part of the problem and not part of a solution
Ukraine isn't going to stop fighting.
Without Chinese shells Russia can't continue fighting - thus the situation will escalate.
Cards fan
Escalate how? A war? Already happening. Rolling over for Russia will only lead to my aggression further on down the line.
Olegek
When after 1991
NATO go to east - it was a war declaration against Russia.
Ukrainian was stupid enough to welcome this war Into their own home.
Olegek
Unfortunately Japane can't be such a good friend to Russia.
But each nation make it's own choice.
wallace
Putin could just declare a ceasefire today.
Blacklabel
thats “unacceptable” to the US overlords paying for this war- didn’t you hear?
Olegek
He did it on Orthodox Christmas.
Ukrainians were not interested
TaiwanIsNotChina
Then Russia should have declared war in 1991. In fact why did they bother letting the people in the Soviet Union live free as opposed to slaves?
Blacklabel
Yeah 14 consecutive replies to me and only me is totally the same thing.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Yes, instead of pretending to be civilized Russia was just a thug from 2000 on. Couldn't even pretend to be different.
Eastman
if some of you talking abt UA what is happening there?
I have missed UA heroi news recently..did they surrounded Moscow already?
or at least planning?
davaite!
Olegek
TaiwanIsNotChina
Then Russia should have declared war in 1991.
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