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Putin going to G20 in Bali summit 'a step too far': Australian PM

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The instant he steps out of Russian territory, slap him in chains and haul him off to face justice.

How would he manage at a summit of leaders anyway? Would he have his huge don’t-come-near-me-table transported to Jakarta?

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Fair call, Putin was the only person to welcome the Saudi prince with a hand shake. After the Prince ordered the dismembered of an actual person. So beside his very expense suits he is an extremely brutal person who has no empathy for anyone. He should have no contact with actual humans as he has stepped well out of that category. How many times do people have to be taught , poised radiated tea, poised radiated spray, shot in the back of the head, jailed. He is relentless and death follows his every move.

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G20 is for the worlds largest economies. Russia has no economy because of the sanctions and the ruble is collapsing. Based on this alone, Russia no longer qualifies to be in the G20.

Given the actions and behavior of Putin and his cronies to invade another country without provocation and threaten the world with WMD is proof that they cannot contribute positively or cooperatively to global affairs.

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I have doubts that Vlad will still be around by November nor his ruined country be eligible to be part of a G20

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Imagine sitting near or even shaking hands with that guy. The other G20 nations should cancel if Russia insists on going.

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Still some time until the G20 Sumit. But, if Indonesia or the others don’t un-invite Russia then anti-war/anti-invasion countries should boycott G20 and do their own conference. Let the friends of Russian gather on their own.

You could have:

Boycotting (15): US, Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Mexico, United Kingdom, Argentina, EU, [Brazil,] [Saudi Arabia,] [Turkey]

Not boycotting (5): Russia, China, Indonesia, India, South Africa      

(*Above is roughly based on the 2March, 2022 UN Gen Assembly vote to condemn Russia. Indonesia voted to condemn, but their President seems to want political favors from Russia. Also wants to score political points by saying he is magically against economic sanctions (as well as against war).)

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The Russians may be sending a new leader.

Doubtful the Russian people will want him turned out of office, doubtful there are any legal ways for them to have him removed. The Russian people apparently voted to have him be their leader until 2036. And Putin might be the most closely guarded man in the world, and as an ex-Stasi, ex-KGB agent who's alleged to have had his opponents poisoned probably knows the best ways to protect himself from being attacked in any way.

If Putin does attend and brings his fellow thugs with him, I'd worry more about representatives from other countries who've openly criticized him. Doubtful many leaders will want to shake hands or be too near him and will be willing to drink tea around him. The best hope is for his supposed steroid issues to catch up with him. Russians who elected him got the government they deserve, unfortunate for Ukrainians and others living in sovereign nations near Russia.

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What are the Indonesians thinking.

Russia should be excluded from every international gathering, and the Chinese CCP commies too if they don’t like it.

10 ( +23 / -13 )

Intolerable atrocities - Australia's PM got this right. Better have that guy join his war crime trial.

10 ( +18 / -8 )

Scomo is right, cant have a war criminal sitting down with world leaders. What an insult that would be. Will be a lot of nations pulling out and there wont be a G20 meeting. Maybe 5 nations including the host will turn up if Putin goes.

Indonesia not being a very good host at this point.

10 ( +16 / -6 )

When Putin started the Putin War, he became an obsolete member of the G20. He became nothing.

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@cricky

Thankyou.

9 ( +14 / -5 )

In a nutshell: “I think we need to have people in the room hat aren’t invading other countries.”

Exactly!

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However - truth be told that Vladimir Putin won't be the only world leader to attend the G20 Summit that's guilty of taking the lives of innocent civilians and invading other countries is he !

Yeah, but this story is about putin because he’s doing it at the moment. You might have noticed how almost everyone is angry about it.

Next time a leader you don’t like does it, take a sip a coffee because it’s your turn to complain.

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"I think we need to have people in the room that aren't invading other countries," he said.

This must be a new rule introduced in the last month or so. Don't believe it has been previously applied.....

7 ( +15 / -8 )

This could be the end of the G20 as a functioning body.

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As if he will be around by November.......

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I highly doubt he will leave Russia, because he would be worried of being targeted by an assassin. This is all posturing on his part to try and show the world he has still has some clout.

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Putin is not foolish to step outside of his "safe" area now. He knows someone will either imprison him or take him down... or if he is outside of the country, someone else might not let him back in and take power for themselves. Hmmm.

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Morrison's milquetoast remark, "A step too far", is only the half of it: just like Hitler with his barbaric invasion of Russia, Putin with his devastation of the Ukraine has indeed gone a steppe too far. The comeuppance for this vile Russian reptile, it is to be hoped, will also be a miserable end in a bunker.

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perhaps he should attend but be shunned.

I'm a Brit, but I think Mad Vlad's actions require more than a severe tut. His crime isn't cutting in a queue, or failing to stand his round in the pub.

 placing him behind some tall guy during the photo shoot (Putin's a ちび) would better drive home the message.

The way to send home the message is to place him between two tall guys in the dock before placing him in a small dark room with bars on the window and another tall guy standing outside the door.

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It's better for leaders to talk than for leaders not to talk.

It’s 2022. Putin can talk from his lair in Russia.

No need to invite him over to the civilized world for fancy dinners, the man is a killer and lost his chances when he opted to invade Ukraine and bring death to both Ukrainians and his own people.

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I agree with ClippetyClop. The G20 is for the top 20 economic leaders to meet. The ruble is worth less than $0.01 because of sanctions, down from 84 rubles to the dollar. Whatever the criteria is to be in the top 20, Putin is quickly pushing Russia the other direction.

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Better arrest Putin when he showed up to G20. he is a suspect of war criminal. G20 needs international military tribunal for him.

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The Russian people apparently voted to have him be their leader until 2036.

Well, it always looks like Russians voted Putin in when many of his political opponents are either dead by strange circumstances, or imprisoned. Nothing rigged about that... Kinda like the N. Korean "democratic election" and the Belarussian "democratic election".... How strange.

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There is only one truly warlike country whose governments have organized all the wars on the planet.

You’re going to need a time frame for that comment to make any sense.

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The instant he steps out of Russian territory, slap him in chains and haul him off to face justice.

Excellent idea.

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Australia has already succeeded in plummeting their economic trading with China and now Russia also.

And trade issues between Australia and China have all been initiated by China, and despite that the total trade is higher than ever. China just can not operate without Australian resources and LNG.

Russia is sanctioned for their barbaric invasion of Ukraine. Less than $1 bill of annual trade between them is no skin off Australia's nose. Europe is placing large future orders for Australian LNG to help wean them off relying on Russia. That will dwarf any current trade Australia has had with Russia. Australian wheat exports will also surge.

Much business to conduct for Australia at the upcoming G20, while Russia will be crying on the sidelines.

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Putin is has exposed himself as a psychotic nut case, would any of you want to be in the room?

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I say lets meet putin at the HAGUE & have hime deal with the ICC!!!

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PTownsend:

Agreed, hard to see direct action from the Russian people toppling Putin, but their support for him as President wasn’t given on the understanding that he would be invading another country in pursuit of his own personal crusade to restore Holy Russia. A more plausible scenario would be widespread dissatisfaction with the economic and human costs to Russia of the war with Ukraine, leading to unrest on the streets, increasing nervousness on the part of the Putin coterie about their own positions, and (hopefully) a palace coup. Of course that doesn’t mean some kind of magical transition to anything like Western democracy. That’s not the Russian way. But it might lead to a more pragmatic and less messianic leadership.

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We just don't know but this could be his way of allowing a coup to take place and he could be saving face.

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Australia has already succeeded in plummeting their economic trading with China and now Russia also.

Got anything to back that up?

Australian-China trade is at record levels, and increasing. Australia has negligible trade with fascist Russia.

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The international rule of law and new world order is bias .

"New World Order'?, that's an old extreme right phrase. Not sure what's being said, but it sounds like it could be a criticism of the new imperium made up of Russian/China/Iran. Better than the usual it's the media posts that cause problems rant, but unclear nonetheless, and better than the oft repeated anti-vaxx screeds.

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A long way to go until November. I can understand why some people think it would be a good idea to have Putin personally come up against other world leaders who oppose what he’s done in Ukraine, but I can’t see any evidence that he’d listen to any of them - and besides, no-one knows what the situation will be in eight months time. The Russians may be sending a new leader.

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The instant he steps out of Russian territory, slap him in chains and haul him off to face justice.

Cleo, perhaps he should attend but be shunned. Apparently, he's so enveloped in his bubble he truly doesn't understand what a pariah he's become. Every world leader literally turning their back on him and placing him behind some tall guy during the photo shoot (Putin's a ちび) would better drive home the message.

A question I have not seen addressed anywhere is what will happen to Putin when (not if) his armies are driven out of Ukraine. Will he be able to maintain power? If not, will he be allowed to remain a free man in Russia, jailed in Russia, or exiled to the waiting arms of the World Court?

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Bali would be a nice place to retire and enjoy the millions he has stolen , so this could be a one way trip for Putin.

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Well, maybe all you tough guys can talk to him, I would welcome it if I was you

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Let him go there. Just make it awfully difficult for him to get home.

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He is just trolling them Of course he won't go if all the "Western allies" are also attending. Ol' Joe would take him out behind the bleachers and give him a good hiding.....

-4 ( +0 / -4 )

Just call it the G-19. Russia's economy is quickly becoming a basket case and remain as such for a long time. Who really cares? And if Putin actually tries to attend and the leader of my country (Canada) goes there will be hell to pay. There are 1.4 million Ukrainian-Canadians. While some of them are too young to vote, the majority aren't. And on top of that, almost all Canadians have vilified Putin. I imagine the same situation confronts every other leader who will need votes during their next elections. The disgust for Putin held by all those people will last for years.

By the way, there are legitimate reports about people of Russian descent being assaulted or otherwise condemned in several countries. Not something I approve of, but can certainly understand.

-4 ( +2 / -6 )

Allowing Russian President Vladimir Putin to sit with other world leaders at this year's G20 summit would be "a step too far"

Well, yes, he should not sit but stand in the shame corner. But in general I wouldn’t exclude him from such meetings for two reasons, he could be more easily taken into custody for The Hague is one, the second, while he is amongst all others he surely won’t push the nuclear button, including the time while he is on the way to and from the meetings. Think it over…lol

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"I think we need to have people in the room that aren't invading other countries," he said.

Yeah, US, UK, Australia's leaders shouldn't be in the room too, yes, that's including you ScoMo.

Remember Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria

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I disagree. I think he should go to find out how angry people are and the support Ukraine is getting. He might being getting a lot of misinformation right now by those around him who are probably fearful. This is a big part of the problem.

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@JMin

Not boycotting (5): Russia, China, Indonesia, India, South Africa    

That would be a terrible move by western powers, but I don't think they'd do something like that.

Russia, China, and India alone would a majority of the world's population, or darn close to it. They've already been increasing economic cooperation recently, including with Saudi Arabia, which is already alarming for the western economic forces.

The last thing that western powers would want is to push them even closer together. China would love it, but I seriously doubt anyone is foolish enough to try do that. Excluding one of them (Russia) while they negotiate with the other two is a different story and welcome I am sure.

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The G20 exists to address major issues to the global economy, supposedly, it seems ridiculous to try to hold the G20 without Russia. That'd be like holding it without China or the United States. Especially right now, where the biggest issues to the global economy hinge around Russia itself.

I get that they aren't fans of Russia at the moment, or ever, but that is exactly the reason they need to sit down and discuss things. Diplomats and world leaders should be better than that.

Be a real shame if a mysterious toxic gas was accidentally released while the Russian delegates - including the tyrant Putin dwarf - stayed in their hotel.

It seems insane I have to ask mod staff this, but can explicit threats of violence/death threats and lynching be deleted at the very least? Honestly, it should be cause for an immediate ban, but I get that tensions are probably higher than normal.

Imagine the world we would live in if countries just started killing diplomatic delegations they disagreed iwth.

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It's better for leaders to talk than for leaders not to talk.

A necessary meeting regardless of what Morrison thinks.

Better communication means less conflicts.

But we need leaders willing to share the sandbox.

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However - truth be told that Vladimir Putin won't be the only world leader to attend the G20 Summit that's guilty of taking the lives of innocent civilians and invading other countries is he !

The international rule of law and new world order is bias .

Australia has already succeeded in plummeting their economic trading with China and now Russia also.

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China , thanks to support RUSSIA

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