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Putin, in Tehran, gets strong support from Iran over Ukraine

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By NASSER KARIMI and VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV

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Khamenei said that if Russia hadn’t sent troops into Ukraine, it would have faced an attack from NATO later

This man is either incredibly stupid or incredibly disingenuous.

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The new Axis of Evil. All those who associate with Putin will be forever tainted, just like Hitler's allies.

How embarrassing for Russia to have to rely on Iran for military support.

How’s it feel to be on your knees Vlad, begging other despotic countries to show you favor?

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Well, one terrorist petro-state hand washes the other...

Iran is getting ready to cross the nuclear threshold and needs a dictatorship with little to no regard for world peace to back-stop it from the economic and military pressure it will face.

That’s a bridge too far for the PRC which is intent on free-riding the global order until it can overthrow it.

But for a gas stand kleptocracy with nukes, not a problem.

Hell, for that level of backing, Iran ought to sell Vlad their 2nd rate drones at cost denominated in rubles no less.

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This man is either incredibly stupid or incredibly disingenuous.

It’s disingenuous. Nobody is THAT stupid.

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This man is either incredibly stupid or incredibly disingenuous.

It’s disingenuous. Nobody is THAT stupid

I don’t know about that. The ‘alternative media’ types may put that to the test.

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Who'd have thought that the US waging almost a decade of war, inflicting genocidal level casualties on the people of Iran, followed by decades of persecution of Iranians, and supporting the Axis of Antidemocracies would cause Iranians to be cynical about the intentions of the American overthrow of the last democratically elected government of Ukraine and support for a regime that spent almost a decade waging war against the population of what was then eastern Ukraine.

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Yeah, Putin and Raisi = pot and kettle!

If Iran is going to support Putin they also should be hit with more stringent embargoes!

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Two pariah terror-states. Putler getting desperate for "friends" now as his basket-case economy is being run down by Fascist Russia's illegal war of terror on sovereign Ukraine.

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any problems with that?

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It is interesting how up to now every comment has done their best to avoid the elephant in the room

All go on and on about Russia/Putin Iran/Raisi but totally do their best to avoid mentioning Turkey/Erdogan a supposed "Key" NATO member!

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Yes so interesting.. Except Turkey has been meeting regularly with Russia to negotiate many things (including peace and grain exports).

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Turkey can be expelled from NATO.

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What a picture....

The Moe, Larry, and Curly of dictator-world...waiting for Putin to give Khamenei an eye-poke...

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ok1517

Today 08:08 am JST

Yeah, Putin and Raisi = pot and kettle!

> If Iran is going to support Putin they also should be hit with more stringent embargoes

Sure why not, more sanctions and embargoes.

I mean look at how well they have worked in the past.

The Cuban government must have fallen by now after 6 decades.

North Korea surely has fallen and didn't build nuclear weapons.

Iran must have collapsed during the past 4 decades of sanctions.

Or are we again going to move the goal posts and now say something like "sanctions were meant to isolate the and it worked" ( yes several have tried claiming that).

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Putin need oil and gas equipment,US companies do not service oil fields any more

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Turkey can be expelled from NATO.

Unfortunately there is no provision in the NATO charter to either suspend or expel a member. Turkiye (the new spelling and pronounciation the Turks are demanding the world use as of two weeks ago) could however be shunned by the other NATO members and convinced to leave of their own accord.

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wallace

Today 09:06 am JST

Turkey can be expelled from NATO.

Yes it could.

Now think how that will look, the only major non "white" Christian member being kicked out.

Sure tiny little Albania is left but if we are being honest most of the non member world already seems NATO as a white (Christian) European club.

Kicking Turkey will just reinforce that view.

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The Sultan of Ankara went to Tehran to receive permission to attack Tel Rifat and Manbij. The great terror threat that the Sultan speaks of are not IS or Al Qaeda. It is the Syrian Kurds who control the area. The Turks have good relations with both IS and HTS, which is the new name for al Nusra Front the Syrian Al Qaeda affiliate. They only want to attack the Kurds. It appears the permission he sought has not be granted.

Not mentioned in the J-T article was an offer by Mr. Erdogan for defense industry cooperation with Iran.

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I've got an idea.

Let's sanction Russia!

Let's sanction Iran!

Let's expel Turkey from NATO!

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In the current situation, it's Russia and Iran on one side, and Turkey on the other. Until the Russian sanctions, Iran was the most sanctioned country. Putin wants to learn how to get around some of his sanctions and find alternatives. His high-tech industry is suffering badly.

If Turkey refuses to sell drones to Russia then Iran will.

So we will have to see how it plays out.

I have never considered Turks to be "nonwhite". Are you nonwhite because you frequently bring up this issue?

Turkish people are considered White in the US. White is a term used interchangeably with Caucasians in the US.

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America-Israel's Iranian chickens are coming home to roost. Putin's playing the long game still believing the West can't check him, but he could still fall for a sudden "Fool's Mate" (etymologically, "checkmate" means the Shah aka Persian king is dead!) Karma could bring a quick solution to the "Gordian Knot" of the Putin problem.

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.......however be shunned by the other NATO members and convinced to leave of their own accord.

Well, if it was easy the Empire would have done it long ago. ..... and Turkiye has still to agree to NATO membership of Sweden and Finland. That will take ages, I guess.

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Antiquesaving

Now think how that will look, the only major non "white" Christian member being kicked out.

Turkey is a Muslim country, not Christian.

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wallace

Today 11:12 am JST

Antiquesaving

> Now think how that will look, the only major non "white" Christian member being kicked out.

> Turkey is a Muslim country, not Christian.

Wow you totally missed the point!

YES I know, that was my point kicking Turkey out means Kicking the only major Muslim power from NATO.

Did I really need to repeat this?

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Surprised he hasn't offered to sell nukes to Iran.

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Antiquesaving 

read your own post, @ 10:20 am JST!

"Now think how that will look, the only major non "white" Christian member being kicked out."

It means what you posted. Major non "white" Christian member.........

Turks are not non "white" or Christian.

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With this photograph one cannot say, that NATO, Islamists and Imperialists can’t coexist in peaceful friendship. The always propagated big systemic differences might be marginal or even non-existing. lol

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Well, if it was easy the Empire would have done it long ago.

It has only been the past three years or so where Sultan Erdogan has alienated the rest of the NATO allies with his support of jihadis in Syria and the use of Syrian jihadis as mercenaries in Libya while blatantly violating the UN arms embargo of Libya (you might recall a confrontation with French warships where the Turks threatened to attack the French ships assigned by the UN to enforce the arms embargo). Buying S-400s from Russia was sort of the last straw. There is also the not so little matter of their ballistic missile program with the Chinese and Russia building nuclear reactors to the Turks. There is a fear that the Turks under Mr. Erdogan have a clandestine nuclear weapons program.

You will find most NATO allies refuse to sell arms to the Turks and most also greatly restrict high technology sales to them, worried that the tech will be used for their weapons programs. Mr. Erdogan has to stand for election no later than the summer of 2023 and the rest of the NATO allies are just biding their time with him to see who wins the election. There is a good chance somebody new will be President and the situation will change but if Mr. Erdogan wins again, especially if he has arrested his political opponents (which he is indeed doing) then the rest of NATO will probably look for ways to push the Turks out of NATO.

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Surprised he hasn't offered to sell nukes to Iran.

Mr. Erdogan offered to cooperate with Iran on defense technology. The Turks do not have nuclear arms but Mr. Erdogan is on record wanting nuclear arms expressing resentment that the US can have nuclear weapons but not the Turks. Iran is close to having nuclear arms. The Turks have military technology Iran wants, not to mention the Erdogan extended family owns most of the armaments manufacturing in Turkiye, and Iran has technology the Turks want. Not a nice world we live in, is it. Some NATO ally!

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North Korea, China, Russia, Iran, etc. … What do they all have in common? They are a club.

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Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is clearly the odd man out, a member of NATO, the very organisation the mad mullah Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei is convinced would have attacked had Putin not invaded Ukraine.

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stormcrow

Today 12:14 pm JST

North Korea, China, Russia, Iran, etc. … What do they all have in common? They are a club.

You conveniently left out Turkey clearly here in the article and India!

Oh and pretty much the rest of the non European world.

See that is the inconvenient fact.

The vast majority of the countries, the vast majority of the world's population isn't interested in the war, not participating in the Sanctions and couldn't care less if it wasn't messing up the world economy due to Sanctions and oil prices going up.

This is not an opinion, not my feelings, it is a fact, just look at sanction participating countries and non participating.

Not even Turkey is on board with sanctions.

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Turkey is right in the middle of a major possible conflict in the black sea.

Russia very well strategically situated with two ports and with Tehran / Iran in his pocket and China as an ally.

No wonder his photos he's beaming with gloat

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Fascinating. Did they thought about what they say ?

So we have a country which is knowlingly is presented as a treat in part because of their nuclear push - be it right or wrong - actually saying it is fine to attack and bomb into oblivion a country seen as a treat.

We have a country actively changing maping : stealing territory, unilateraly recognizing secession, ... reject all attempt to create all new reality.

We have a country planning to attack another one to create a new territory with moved in population and fight terro saying terrorist fighting is not an acceptable pretext to create new territory reality.

And so on.

Hypocrites, I guess.

Should most likely find them somewhere explaining other are hypocrite but not them.

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Flute

Today 01:40 pm JST

Fascinating. Did they thought about what they say

Why don't you just ask?

I mean we have here on JT experts with inside knowledge of Putin's health, military recruitment methods and strength, etc..

So why not ask some of them, I mean if they can get the information that Putin is dying, and what his plans are finding out what these 3 talked about should be even easier.

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