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© Copyright 2022 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.Putin mocks West; says Russia will press on in Ukraine
By VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV MOSCOW©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
80 Comments
Bob Fosse
“It wasn't us who started the military action, we are trying to put an end to it,”
Will he stop when civilian casualties surpass the oft quoted 14,000? Call it even?
FizzBit
Well I’m glad to see you admit that Putin was provoked into this war, and drop the conspiracy theory that Putin started it.
Bob Fosse
I didn’t admit that at all. That’s a strange conclusion to make from my question.
The Avenger
The Russian economy is imploding and Putin puts out these ridiculous statements to avert attention from the impending doom.
Joemusic1980
“Russian Death Toll in Ukraine Passes 50k as Putin's Army Pays High Price”
Seems to be going well for Russia
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-war-death-toll-50k-kherson-counteroffensive-1740202?amp=1
PTownsend
Wars have usually been profitable for the ruling caste. Where will Putin send his minions, some from his personal Federation, some from his partner's next? The new imperium's leaders must see their fellow dictator Putin seems to be raking in more money, and all he's giving up are the lives of thousands of his countrymen and women, in addition to the people being slaughtered by his various forces that were 'his enemies' so according to him and his supporters those are small prices to pay for Putin and those he has allowed in his caste. The anti-west/anti-democracy voices have long been critical, for good reason, of the tactics of the US/UK/NATO because their ruling caste have profited and killed others in their many wars. but how is the new imperium different, with camps in China and Russia and the war in Ukraine, and their own citizens being subjected to dictatorial rule? They look little different to me. Meet the new bosses possibly much worse than any of the old ones
stormcrow
Mocks the West and continues invasion. . . He sounds like Hitler.
wallace
Whatever Putin said it’s a war and started by him in his lush to take over Ukraine turning the clock back to the Soviet era.
2020hindsights
Bronco
Energy exports to India and China doubled after the sanctions were imposed, but that is now dipping, and he isn't getting a good price for it. Russia now has to burn off excess oil.
The Russian currency hasn't "stabilized". It's "controlled". Big difference.
Haaa Nemui
That second pic, hand up to his ear… either “you want me to say what?!” Or “ohh this isn’t good” followed by the third pic “maybe they bought that”
noriahojanen
A glass of novichok cocktail awaits you.
Monty
He sounds like Hitler.
He does not only sounds like Hitler.
But from the history we know that some people tried to assassinate Hitler.
So I do not yet give up hope...
JeffLee
What planet are you living on? I've just been in Thailand and stayed in an area that was formerly popular among Russians. Now it's empty. We got a obscenely great deal on the hotel, thanks to dried up Russian demand, as Russians can practically no longer go there or most of the rest of the world, thanks, yes, to the sanctions.
Another article on JT this week reported on a surge in demand of old cars shipped from Japan to Russia, due the unavailability of new cars in Russia. And so on, and so on.
Sanjinosebleed
There is the main reason for this whole stupid war! the US doesn't want the Nord2 to ever be used and was willing to sanction it's "partners" in the EU to facilitate this. This war started 2 weeks after its completion as Germany had resisted US sanctions until then...coincidence much???
bass4funk
Well, looks like Putin will emerge the winner in this after all in the end. Guess he's getting the last laugh.
Axel
Ukraine is running out of fighting age men but it's ok because Washington and Brussels have found novel solution. From October 1 Ukrainian females of fighting age are forbidden to leave the country and are to be conscripted. Except like the for fighting age guys, they will be able to pay a steep fee to get out of conscription. But in the interests of equality, at least US/NATO style equality, pregnant women and mothers of young kids won't be spared from conscription.
So once again Western European and North American values on show. Pregnant women and mothers of young kids not spared from conscription. Rich guys of fighting age, spared from conscription.
Fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian is just a banal cliche. It's fighting Russia to the last working class Ukrainian.
UChosePoorly
If these sanctions are truly no bother to the Russians, then why do they keep complaining about them? From the pro-Kremlin posters here, you would think that the sanctions are the best thing that happened to Russia since Stalin.
Axel
The Russians know sanctions aren't going to be lifted until Western Europe really feels the pain. They are merely posturing when they call for the sanctions to be lifted.
Numan
@Bronco
I see some of the staffers do not know how finance works.
A strong ruble hurts Russia by eating away at its income from oil and gas exports, which feeds into around 45% of its federal budget.
Both those commodities are valued in dollars, or other non-ruble currencies, on international markets. So when Russia goes to convert its revenues back into rubles, to spend on things like pensions, a high exchange rate means it's losing money.
Putin is hurting even when it looks like he is winning to the laymen and uninformed.
Numan
Putin sounds quite cocky, so I guess he expects to get an influx of cash from China and India with NK supplying some missiles as reported by US.
It will be soon time to sanction China and India.
Chabbawanga
Regardless of your political persuasion, you cannot deny the true value of hard assets. People need hydrocarbons to live their normal lives, and businesses need them to operate. The world economy (including Russia) is sliding down the toilet, but at least we have learned about the importance of fossil fuels.
UChosePoorly
Axel - So Russia wants to keep the sanctions in place and are just pretending to be against them otherwise? Brilliant!
Axel
Not sure. Obviously there is an upside and a downside but if things remain as are, both Russia and the imperialist powers will suffer though evidently, the latter more than the former.
Russia has the main economic power, China, on its side along with fast growing major economies like India and Vietnam along with an abundance of food, energy, water and a strong military to stop the imperialist liberating those resources. Once the currency didn't collapse after the initial "shock and awe" attack, one could argue the Russian victory in the economic war became a fait accompli.
Much like when the blitzkrieg failed to bring the Soviet Union down in 1941. A lot of very serious military and socio economic historians argue that even though the final victory over NATO, I mean the N**zis, was going to take time, it was a fait accompli.
Superlib
Trump fans and Russians appear happy.
lincolnman
I'd say it's a toss-up for award of Biggest Liar of the week....
fallaffel
Or... overreliance on fossil fuels is why countries are feeling the pain.
UChosePoorly
Axel - thanks for your answer. I guess we shall see!
Tom San
Not to worry.
EV's will save us.
bass4funk
What Trump fans????
rainyday
Russia doesn't have India on its side, there is a huge difference between India refusing to join Western sanctions on the one hand and India being on Russia's side on the other. India is willing to buy discounted Russian oil and that is about it.
Even with China, where they've got an "unlimited" friendship agreement it isn't really doing Russia much good. China like India is willing to buy discounted Russian oil and that is about it. Trade between China and Russia has decreased since February, not increased. And of course its trade with the West remains orders of magnitude larger than its trade with Russia.
It does have that.
Sorry, I was drinking milk when I read that and I laughed so hard it came out of my nose.
Yes, if one ignores how economies actually works one could argue that. There are a lot of interesting things one can argue if you just ignore reality, like the Earth being flat, etc.
Rodney
Everything he says is factual and well thought out. A pity our leaders can’t do the same.
Tom San
No, no, no.
Everyone here will testify that he's stupid.
finally rich
Daily reminder: elections do have real world consequences
rainyday
Lets just take a look at the lies from Putin's mouth found in this article alone:
From the guy who ordered the invasion.
From the guy whose actions have turned the Donbas into a wasteland, levelled its cities and killed god only knows how many of the people living there.
Pfft.
Stewie
50,000 dead orcs, and considering what is happening now with Ukranian advances, it is about to get much much worse.
Antiquesaving
Both sides are a joke, anything they say is more than likely false.
From the number of casualties, which is given by either Russia or Ukraine both unbelievable.
To the economies all sides suffering and yes the war was the catalyst but stop kidding yourselves the Sanctions and subsequent oil/gas prices are to blame, to the "Russia isn't using oil/gas as a weapon" yes of course it is in the same way the west is using sanctions.
Europe will freeze this winter, we will pay higher prices, Russians will go without a lot of things except gas and oil, more will die not just in Ukraine but elsewhere when they cannot pay for heat or buy food.
And both sides are to blame, One for not coming to a solution over Donbas and pushing a military solution and making it more impossible for that region to rejoin Ukraine, the other for invading and setting of this latest round of European vendettas wars.
And the western countries for not pushing for a solution long ago but using NATO as some prize to not make a compromise, for not pushing for negotiations, etc ...
And please don't give me the tired old "remember Chamberlain peace in our time" trope. trying to equate this to WW2, remember the 2 men most responsible for resisting the invasion back then are both being vilified today, so yesterday's heroes are now today's enemies, people have short memories when it suits them. Churchill was a hero now his statues are defaced and being removed, Will we be doing the same with the leaders we are today calling heroic? Nothing is ever black and white!
wallace
What's with Putin's shaking twitching legs and feet?
Antiquesaving
Oh not you too?
Haven't we had enough of this?
I am fine with the crazy stuff some people come up with on Both sides but this Trope keeps getting better and more ridiculous!
Putin could sneeze on camera and the headline in the west would be "Putin has Ebola".
We had the the Parkinson's, the dementia, Alzheimer's, the Cancer, etc.... What next?
Tom San
My observation is that Vladimir Putin has Athlete's foot.
wallace
Antiquesaving
wallace
I watched it twice on TV and a third time in the China war games when he limped into the room. Are you telling me none of that was real?
Superlib
I don't make any distinction between Putin supporters and Trump fans anymore.
Jimizo
?
Cones across as a bit defensive. You aren’t hurt, are you?
I don’t think he’s stupid. I think he’s a disgrace.
What do you think of him?
Tom San
I think he has Athlete's foot.
Antiquesaving
All I am saying is that for the past 7 months according to the western news, the western pundits, the comment section here, the guy looks good for someone that has cancer/Alzheimer's/dementia/Parkinson's all at the same time!
Mordac
According to Western media, Putin has been at deaths door since the coup in the Ukraine (7 years ago?) and subsequent liberation of Crimea.
bass4funk
That’s why the left always seem to sound more confused and politically out of touch, you completely made my point.
lincolnman
You've heard of thrombosis in the legs? Putin has Fibitis....
Every time he tells a fib, his legs and feet twitch, which is why he exhibits symptoms constantly...
tokyo-star
maybe not stupid, but definitely delusional. unfortunately that's what happens with a top down system where no one can say anything negative against the top
Jimizo
Erm, nice one. A real thigh-slapper.
Dear me. Can’t bring yourself to share your opinion of him?
A very dark moral place you’ve found yourself in.
Very dark indeed.
TokyoLiving
When the most powerful man in the world speaks, the world listens..
Like it or not..
wallace
Antiquesaving
wallace
All you are saying is that you think you know more than others.
Since they were direct recordings of Putin his staff would have been strict on which company made them. TASS was a part of it. Tass took the photos used in the article.
The recordings were not by western medias.
Didn't you understand from my comment I posted a question, not an answer or suggestion of why Putin was twitching and limping?
Bordeaux
Is it impossible not to have these issues at the same time? Dementia is general term, while Alzhemer's is a type of dementia. People with Parkinson's develop dementia around 10 years after showing symptoms of Parkinson's.
The only thing we do not know is what particular disease Putin is suffering from, but he is suffering from something. It would explain the last ditched effort to take Ukraine. His reign is ending and his ego wants the world to remember him for something other than the sham elections and poisoning rivals.
Bordeaux
Ooops....Is it impossible to have all these issues at the same time?
Antiquesaving
I'm saying again like I always say, when you hear the sound of hooves think Horse not Zebra.
He hurt his foot, has gout, his foot fell asleep happens to all of us.
But nope he twitched, he sneezed, he dozed off, etc..
Well let's make a big deal about it.
Remember, back in March he had terminal cancer being treated with blood from raindeer antlers, and the Russian army would run out of ammunition and men by April!
That was the News in March.
All you did was given the anti Putin something new to ZEBRA on!
Pukey2
Why all this talk about dementia and Alzeimer's?
rainyday
I have to agree with Antiquesaving on this point. All this speculation about Putin's health seems like its just wish fulfillment by those doing the speculating. For all we know he could easily have another decade or two of relatively healthy life ahead of him.
wallace
Antiquesaving
You sure like your horses and zebras. If your broken pots are doing so well check out Ueno Zoo for some part-time work.
As I said, the recordings were made by Russian companies.
That would not explain his twitching of both legs and feet. I suggest you go and watch before making any further comments on something you obviously have not seen.
I have Tsūfū but it does not make my legs twitch.
I asked a simple question and you did your best to complicate it.
It is a big deal when there is something possibly wrong with a leader of a nuclear-armed country.
I am free to post my opinion and I do not need to ride horses or zebras son.
Antiquesaving
There are several compilation videos of Zelensky and Biden where they are slurring their words twitching limping, Falling asleep in meetings, etc...
But we don't scrutinize them because we understand they are under extreme situations these days.
If Zelensky ( who like Putin I don't like) twitched or was walking funny, slurred his words, etc.. I wouldn't even care, my first thought would be he is under a lot of pressure, probably not sleeping much and tired.
I wouldn't go to the internet and go
" What's with Zelensky shaking twitching legs and feet?"
These are leaders of countries effectively at war, I doubt any of them have had a real good night's sleep in months.
Yrral
Both Zelensky and Putin have lived under undemocratic rule,while both of them lived in the Soviet Union,like most of Ukrainain,to deny this ,is to deny your existence
Superlib
Bye.
Superlib
Uh huh.
Antiquesaving
I would be funny if it wasn't so sad and if it wasn't affecting so many.
Putin: we are not using oil/gas as a weapon!
The West: The Sanctions are not a weapon, they are a punishment, a consequence, etc.....
Who are these two trying to fool? Themselves?
Only the most hardline on Both sides don't see both these actions as an extension of the war and as weapons in that war.
Come on reality check!
wallace
Antiquesaving
wallace
The article and topic are about Putin so I stayed on topic and asked a very simple question which you insist to try and complicate.
I think you enjoy being argumentive. Arguing for the sake of arguing.
Being on topic, I didn't think to mention Liz Truss is now the new British prime minister.
You don't get to decide what I post, son. So you want all of us to be just like you. No thank you!
Actually, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin since he became leader of Russia as the president and prime minister published numerous articles and TV recordings showing how healthy and fit he was. Riding topless on horseback or fishing trout in Siberia. Practicing martial arts. So I would say his present health conditions are a concern for a man who was so healthy and fit.
Superlib
"I don't support Putin but I just constantly say statements that support Putin."
RichardPearce
Just a reminder people that it's 2020, not 2012. The US attempt at a coup in Venezuela, and then attempt to reverse the failure of the coup, has happened and shifted perceptions of the economic fist the US can wield.
The US had to ask the Taliban to help it get its troops out of Afghanistan.
Those outside the Imperium saw the Imperium promise them medicine to save lives in a global pandemic, then keep failing to produce.
But people are making comments as if the world hadn't changed, while deriding those who know it has.
A lot of things that happened in those years are deemed off topic, even though where they happened makes it clear they're just uncomfortable to the government to have people reminded of, but those things have shaped the present.
bass4funk
Exactly, you made my point again.
So now the left want to control irrefutable facts presented of what’s going on, that now makes you a supporter of Vlad? How deep of excuses does the left need to dig for?
Antiquesaving
Ok now show us in the article where they talk about his foot?
So if you decide something is part of the topic then fine but I point out the difference and equivalents and now it is off topic.
The article take about sanctions, oil, gas, etc....not Putin's foot or leg, so perhaps you should take your own advice
Mordac
Ruling out women or pregnant women from combat would be a bad move. What's would stop Ukranian guys identifying as women and getting pregnan? The regime may be #azi friendly but they aren't bigots.
Superlib
Bye.
rainyday
Just a reminder people that it's 2022, not 2020.
Yes, by all means lets do anything but talk about what is happening in Ukraine today. Venezuala ten years ago? Afghanistan last year? Yup, lets talk about those things instead.
Yes it certainly has changed. Russia has become isolated from the West. Its armies have been embarassed on the battlefield. Its lost its main markets for exports.
Because most of them are.
Certainly many things have shaped the present. Stuff that happened in Venezuala or Afghanistan however is pretty marginal to an explanation of what Russia is doing to Ukraine. The actual stuff that is.....like stuff that Russia has done and what its leadership is deciding to do.....obviously also makes some people uncomfortable.
bass4funk
Lol, yup!
Bingo!
wallace
Antiquesaving
This is the sixth comment you have directed at me. The other day you accused another poster of stalking you and you threatened to use the police on them.
*Unless his foot has detached itself then it's very much about Putin and his health and body parts, Twitching legs and feet and having to tightly hold the edge of tables when speaking.
*The argument for argument's sake must be part of your nature. You can post what you like but you directed them at me to solicit a response so you could make further arguments.
*What's the number of your local Koban?
*Sonny, I will waste no more of my time on you today.
Tom San
Cool as a cucumber, isn't he?
Putin, that is.
Numan
This is all Russian propaganda!
You cannot believe Putin like trump or some posters on JT.
Bloomberg reported on Monday that officials have been handed a report forecasting a longer and deeper recession than has been publicly acknowledged. The Kremlin-commissioned report was presented to top Russian officials on August 30, the wire said. Two of three scenarios that the report explored found Russia's economy would not return to prewar levels until the end of the decade or later, Bloomberg reported.
Let the excuses, begin!
rainyday
About as smart as one too.