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Strangerland
Just be glad that president trump feels the same as you Russians and can’t be bothered to do anything.
PTownsend
Now that Putin’s come out and said who ‘they’ might be, GoTrumpers and those who claim Russian ‘meddling’ in support of Trump and the GOP wasn’t a problem can stop using dogwhistle terms like ‘cabal’, ‘globalists’, ‘international bankers’, among others.
Putin, a man who purports to be a Christian and a conservative, a man many GoTrumpers have long said they admire, has pointed a finger at a group his nation’s most admired man Stalin wanted ‘purged’ (along with others), a group specifically targeted by the leader of the nation Stalin eventually came to help defeat.
The alt reich are back. 1930’s redux.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin_and_antisemitism
SuperLib
Favorability ratings for Putin amongst Republicans is up 20% in the past couple of years. They love the guy.
katsu78
He blames Jews for the problems he caused. That's GOP gold.
Toasted Heretic
And the mask slips. It's the classic blame the minorities tactic.
Sickening rhetoric from a sickening man.
Laguna
Definition of American Jews: American.
Definition of Russian Jews: Jews.
No wonder Russia is in such pathetic state.
nandakandamanda
Putin is learning, from Trump.
CrazyJoe
Make no mistake. For several years now, a huge swath of American Republicans have felt more kinship to Putin than to American liberals. In their sick and twisted heads, Putin is their friend and Obama is their sworn enemy. That is truly disgusting.
bass4funk
How absurd. Nothing could be further from the truth. The main difference is, most Republicans dwell on it 24/7 while drinking quadruple shots of espresso.
Not true at all, but the last statement, most definitely.
PTownsend
Putin knows full well how alienated and angry many Americans are. He knows how divided the country is.
The KGB, his former employer, which he now controls, have used a variety of media to send messages and create fake news in attempts to further alienate and anger Americans.
The Russians have targeted the NRA and US white nationalist groups to spread their messages. Putin’s PR people in the KGB and other Russian organizations have pushed his image as a conservative Christian who’s a paler shade of white. They are adept at using identity politics. They’ve found an American market who’ve easily bought Russian propaganda.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2017/10/09/how-putins-russia-uses-soviet-era-tricks-to-evoke-racist-white-fears/?utm_term=.d63e4e2a269a
SuperLib
With Republicans, Putin polls much higher than Obama. It really is that toxic in your party.
bass4funk
If I were Putin, I'd be angry as well, if I had someone interfere in my home elections the way Hillary did in 2011-12 it's no wonder he wants payback and doesn't care. He's just returning the favor. He succeeded in dividing the country, the liberals are so bent on trying to find something, anything and keep wasting time to go on this witch hunt which has brought then absolutely nothing will continue to do so which will make them look even more desperate than they already are instead of moving on and thinking what policies do they want to campaign on and so far, they don't have an issue to brag about.
PTownsend
The US is not the Russia you continue to support. Investigations intended to get to the truth take time. Mueller's not running a Potemkin village.
Americans who supported a candidate like Trump, knowing full well about his alleged criminal past, should not be surprised how deeply Trump, his attorneys and accountants have hidden his family's past business dealings and just accept that it will take time to get all facts out.
Who knows: Trump might might be vindicated.
katsu78
I don't think most Republicans are as obsessive as you say, just the ones who are trapped in the right-wing media bubble.
elephant200
Right wing Americans must applaudung Putin if he had sent agents using nerve gas or radioactive substance to hurt key liberal figures rather than that so called election interference 2016! They want that happen just refrain to do or to say in public!
bass4funk
I support the US and only the US, always have and always will. I just don't support Globalism.
No, he's running a circus and a very amusing one.
the only people that think that are of course the haters and at this point, more and more people are tuning it out, it's become such a sleeper that the media and the left establishment have nothing better to do than to continue witch hunting and to obstruct, but they themselves have zero policies on which they can campaign on in November. "We oppose Trump" and how will you help America and the middle class? "We will....oppose Trump?" Yes, that will work, forget about policies, think of them as we go along.
And more than likely not even be indicted.
bass4funk
Like Billy Crystal and George Will? Yeah, probably.
SuperLib
Like I said, Putin polls high with Trump supporters. All because Trump tells them to.
bass4funk
Not at all, I don’t know a single Trump supporter that thinks about Putin other than that he is a muderous thug. Now the Democrats and what is appearing to seem more and more like a strong connection, that is veeeery interesting. More to come...
clamenza
the same entitled whiners with no coping skills STILL can't get over the fact they lost.
This goes deeper than politics. This is a liberal psychosis that social scientists will study for years.
Tommy Jones
For the fourth time, your countrymen and 62.9 million barely literate, extremely ignorant Trump voters. Why do you always forget this factor, and the tens of millions of dollars and other factors?
You really don't think it has?
Tommy Jones
Crazy:
Bass:
What is truly disgusting?
Republicans dwell on something that is far from the truth 24/7 while drinking quadruple shots of espresso?
Laguna
Trying to sway an "election" that's already decided is futile. Trump and his supporters bellow, "Throw her in jail!" Putin's erstwhile opponents face far worse fates than jail.
Madverts
Killing or jailing the opposition is how "elections" are won in the Putinocracy...
SuperLib
A murderous thug who we shouldn't even criticize for election meddling because by golly, we want good relations and that would just get in the way.
Tommy Jones
We've been over this. Clinton did not interfere in the Russian election, she cast doubt on its legitimacy. You know, after the elections were held, which means she didn't interfere in the election.
Do a little research before posting.
Tommy Jones
Which you know because of your ability to vote in Russian elections.
Whst does win Russian elections is massive voter fraud and intimidation.
Jimizo
He seems very competent and methodical. He’s certainly not the type to fire off half-baked trash on Twitter in the early hours.
I thought anyone interested in the truth would appreciate that.
Evidently not.
bass4funk
“Sway” an election? Influenced by all means, swaying?? Ask the people of Wisconsin and Michigan and Pennsylvania that, you might get laughed out the room
We’re trying to do the same with NK as well, right? We should just fight everyone? Not a fan of Russia, but with all the other turmoil that’s engulfing the country, picking a fight with Russia isn’t the smartest thing to do.
Strangerland
Weak. They already picked the fight and the US has put its tail between its legs and run home.
bass4funk
Yeah, sure. Lol
Strangerland
I’m surprised to see you admit it. I’ll give you credit for that one, I didn’t expect you would admit trump is weak on this.
plasticmonkey
Trump supporters have a thing for Putin. He’s the platonic ideal of the Trump they wish they had. At heart, they love a dictator who makes them feel tough and part of a mob. That’s part of the reason they hated Obama. He didn’t give their repressed libidos a chubby the way Putin does.
Jimizo
So you changed your mind on the possibility of Trump getting done on the very serious charge of obstruction?
bass4funk
And yet, every single day liberals milk it like a cow, they are the ones that are overly and dementedly obsessed with anything Russian.
No, he just had some of THE worst policies for the country as well as weak.
I doubt he will, but I believe Mueller will try his best to find something. Throw that chum in. Lol
ReturningGrace
You don't go confront somebody when you don't have anything concrete on them. Mueller can milk the Russian investigation until the end of Trump era. Job security.
lostrune2
Um, what? 13 people doesn't mean just 13 fake accounts. Ya must be new to the internet, lol
I'm one person - do ya realize how many fake accounts I can make? And I don't even have all the resources that the troll factory in St. Petersburg has
Lest we all forget, this is not your garden-variety trolls making up fake personas in the basement to try to illicit reactions on the Web
This is a sophisticated operation where serious time and money and resources were spent to actually buy real people's identities without their knowledge, set up VPN servers in the US, etc. and yes even criminal - stealing real people's SSNs, opening financial accounts under their names, etc. Make no mistake - this is a BIG-time operation
"Russia’s troll identities were more sophisticated than anyone thought"
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/16/17021684/facebook-twitter-mueller-russia-troll-factory
So to anyone outside, the trolls just look like other Americans posting in America
lostrune2
Trump has just changed his tune from "there's no Russian involvement and thus no collusion" to "just no collusion" (accepting that Russia started their anti-US campaign in 2014)
And now Putin too - he changed his tune from there's no Russian meddling to no longer denying there's Russian meddling but it's not connected to the Russian government
But then, why doesn't Putin investigate the St. Petersburg troll factory then, since what they're doing is implicating the Russian government? If Putin is really serious about clearing the Russian government's name, then he should do something about the troll factory.
Then again, it's actually the Dutch intelligence who outed Russia to the Americans - they hacked Russia and accidentally had a front row seat, lol
"Dutch intelligence had a front-row seat to Russian DNC hack"
https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/26/dutch-intelligence-election-hacks/
So, it was the Dutch hacked into Russia and saw it as it happened, even hacked the security camera, lol
Since now that we know how they got the information, Russia put a stop to the Dutch hack
Tommy Jones
Apparently not.
bass4funk
I usually always do. Between him and here, there’s no love loss and as much and as evil the man is, it’s understandable that he has such a deep hatered and resentment.
Tommy Jones
Just not this time. If someone is critical of the results of an election, they are not interfering with the elections.
*With the protesters accusing Putin of having rigged recent elections, the Russian leader pointed an angry finger at Clinton, who had issued a statement sharply critical of the voting results. *
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/clinton-putin-226153
This means your assertion:
is false.
Tommy Jones
But picking a fight with the DPRK is smart. Right. Got it.
bass4funk
No, this time as well, every news outlet had reported on this and Putin’s personal hatred of Hillary was so apparent that he wanted to return the favor in spades and he succeeded.
Of course not, but we wouldn’t be in the situation if Kim wouldn’t be doing what he’s doing, threatening our allies and threatening us, yeah, that would be considered picking a fight and a very deadly one at that.
Strangerland
NK: We'll destroy America (does nothing).
Trump: Get them!
Russia actively attacks US
Trump: ...
Tommy Jones
Every news outlet reported that Putin Hayes Clinton because Clinton commented in the legitimacy of an election that was concluded. You asserted Clinton meddled in the election.
So, one more time from the link you provided:
With the protesters accusing Putin of having rigged recent elections, the Russian leader pointed an angry finger at **Clinton, who had issued a statement sharply critical of the voting results**.
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/clinton-putin-226153
We're talking about the US picking fights, not the DPRK.
Strangerland
Why is it that Trump and the right are so afraid of Russia that they won't even criticize them for attacking their country?
Weak. Pure and utter weakness. Just goes to show that this president talks tough, but is actually the weakest post-war president out there. All bluster, no balls.
Tommy Jones
Not only are they too weak to criticize Russia, they bend time to make up an excuse for Putin. To conservatives, criticizing the outcome of an election is the same as meddling in the election.
PTownsend
Seems to match up with the hatred expressed by some in the extremist faction of US rightists and evangelicals who believe their fellow Americans, those Americans with perspectives different from theirs, are the enemy, and somehow Putin and his Russian oligarchs aren't.
But then that extremist faction of US rightists and evangelicals supports anti-democracy measures and have said they want US systems taken down and replaced by one led by their political messiah.
bass4funk
The election wasn’t concluded.
Former U.S. officials who worked on Russia policy with Clinton say that Putin was personally stung by Clinton’s December 2011 condemnation of Russia’s parliamentary elections, and had his anger communicated directly to President Barack Obama. They say Putin and his advisers are also keenly aware that, even as she executed Obama’s “reset” policy with Russia, Clinton took a harder line toward Moscow than others in the administration.
I really don’t think so, I think for what reason does Trump have to make Russia a higher priority over NK? Not undermining the possible threat, but I think Russia isn’t as volatile as NK at the moment.
@PT
You're joking, right? ROFL! Too funny.
Strangerland
NK: hasn’t attacked the US.
Russia: has
but I get it. Your team figures it’s better to appease Russia. Fair enough, but I call it weak.
Strangerland
Yeah it’s not like Russia just stated they have missiles that can strike anywhere and there is no defence against them, showing an example of missiles hitting Florida. After having already attacked the US. No threat there... or at least if you’re too afraid, you pretend there’s no threat there.
Strangerland
Fact check yourself - the election she criticized was concluded:
Tommy Jones
And, for a third time:
**Clinton, who had issued a statement sharply critical of the voting results. **
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/clinton-putin-226153
bass4funk
NK: hasn’t attacked the US.
They have in cyber attacks more than on one occasion.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-4240748
Russia: has True, but Russia is not constantly and consistently threatening us to blow us to pieces.
but I get it. Your team figures it’s better to appease Russia. Fair enough, but I call it weak.
Thats Ok. I call it: nothing important now, NK is a far more bigger fish to fry.
*Clinton, who had issued a statement sharply critical of the voting results.
Not really...
http://time.com/4422723/putin-russia-hillary-clinton/
In December 2011, Vladimir Putin came closer than he’s ever been to losing his hold on power. His decision that year to run for a third term as Russia’s President had inspired a massive protest movement against him. Demonstrations calling for him to resign were attracting hundreds of thousands of people across the country. Some of his closest allies had defected to the opposition, causing a split in the Kremlin elites, and Russian state media had begun to warn of a revolution in the making.
At a crisis meeting with his advisers on Dec. 8 of that year, the Russian leader chose to lay the blame on one meddling foreign diplomat: U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
Tommy Jones
Which state was in Putin's video getting ready to be nuked?
Your team colluded with Russia.
Yes, really. After parliamentary elections, before the presidential election. Read your links before you post them.
Not to mention that commenting on elections is far different than direct meddling.
. . ,
At a crisis meeting with his advisers on Dec. 8 of that year, the Russian leader chose to lay the blame on one meddling foreign diplomat: U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
Oh, I see. Because Uncle Vkad said so, it is. Got it. So you have zero evidence other than who Putin decided to blame for your assertion.
SuperLib
Tough talking conservatives giving defense to Russia. Its the new normal.
Strangerland
Pure weakness. Russia has attacked their political system, getting them to turn on each other, threatened that they could blow up anywhere in the US if they wanted to, giving Florida as an example, and they have nukes.
But they are too scared of Russia, so they remain weak and pretend NK is a bigger threat than the country that’s already hurt them.
Weak.