The requested article has expired, and is no longer available. Any related articles, and user comments are shown below.
© Thomson Reuters 2022.Putin says Ukraine is heading for tragedy; Kramatorsk city prepares its defense
By Max Hunder and Simon Lewis KYIV/KRAMATORSK, Ukraine©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
52 Comments
vic.M
Russia never attempted to take Kiev in the first place. The show of force around the city was simply a diversion tactic. Never heard of Kyiv ?
Besides, it would be impossible to take Kiev withou bombing the hell out of it like the west does, and Russia would not do this. The fall of Kiev will come within.
nandakandamanda
Russia has repeatedly imposed herself on Ukraine for more than a century, causing the deaths of millions.
I am not surprised that Ukrainians are allergic to any Russian land grabs.
Nemo
Wonder just how tough Vlad will be when his army is out of ammo, he has no more “volunteers” and the full weight of Western weapon comes on-line?
Yrral
Nemo, Ukrainain are not gonna get these mythical weapon,the West has gave Ukrainain everything,but the kitchen sink,they had regress since battling near Kiev,this is a Artillery duel, Ukrainain are losing
Kyo wa heiwa dayo ne
Well what do you expect from a bunch of former vikings turned catholic and living together with nazi and jews.
Obviously Putin doesn't want to destroy Kiev because its the old viking capital of his ancestors.
Kyo wa heiwa dayo ne
Putin will officially declare war soon
Mr Kipling
Those "game changer" HIMARS rocket launchers, all four of them didn't make the slightest difference to the battlefield. Now two of them at least, have been destroyed. What is the next "magic bullet" being sold by the western media to save Ukraine and US/NATO embarrassment?
Nemo
You mean the multiple launch rocket systems they are already receiving?
Or perhaps you referred to the 155 howitzers with the GPS rounds?
You certainly cannot mean the Javelin which have been delivered in the thousands and which are responsible for the death of so many Russian draftees, er “Heros”, right?
Vlad should hope to God that Ukraine never gest the means to target Mother Russia from Ukraine as Russia routinely does. That would be hard to cover up on state news.
No, Russia uses up its combat capabilities for very limited gain and no strategic advantage.
When will the mighty Black Sea fleet “liberate” Odessa?
Which rickety old units will be assigned to “punish” the Baltic states for their impudence?
When the situation stabilizes (when and at what demarcation line is unknown), Russia will face 2 more NATO members on its N flank and a Ukraine thoroughly integrated with the West on its S Flank. A member of NATO in all but name with equipment and hopefully an air force and a navy to match. (The F-35B would be ideal for a country in need of mobile air and while the LCS might not have worked for the USN, one can imagine it might make a difference in the Black pond, er…”sea”)
So, fan bois can continue to fan. It’s likely that the Russians are headed for another trip to the barrel.
Yrral
Mr K,these Himars are game changer, Ukrainain do have a strategy of using ,but posting them on Instagram
Kyo wa heiwa dayo ne
@Nemo
There's no way in hell they will run out of ammo .
That's ridiculous
Just Syrian fighter's and a whole bunch of other's that just hate the west.
Nemo
Next time you head to the word-salad bar, might I suggest a side order of grammar, or perhaps a dash of punctuation?
Perhaps you’d be more comfortable posting on RT where lap up your “thoughts” (and in your native language too!)
Yrral
Nemo,these GPS round cost 120 thousands a round,and they had issue,with cracks in casing
Nemo
Tell that to the Germans in WWII. My grandfather remembers how after the Germans were broken at the battle of the buldge, he could count on one hand (with fingers remaining) how many incoming rounds per day they received at the end of the war. All the while, US artillery would receive 2 boxcars of ammo per day PER GUN.
When an army uses artillery shells, bombs and missiles faster than they can be replaced as the Russians clearly are at the moment, that army is heading for a shortage.
The only way that Vlad’s poorly trained and equipped draftees can advance is under the cover of overwhelming arty. That takes a lot of ammo and they are going to run out at this rate. Their “economy” isn’t ramped up for war-time production. Their stocks are being depleted and they have to save some for their NATO facing units.
So yeah, the laws of economics (and logistics) affect the “mighty” Red army as well.
lincolnman
More faux bluster and bombast...
You can always tell Putin and his cronies are losing when they amp up the crazy talk...
Putin thought he could win in a week....it's now Day #130....and he's had to retreat from Kyiv to Snake Island...
During that time he's lost over 4K troops, his turret-less tanks litter Ukraine, his helos flame up like fireworks, and his proud flagship named after his Capitol is rusting at the Bottom of the Black Sea....
And his economy is even below that of Nigeria - with Russia defaulting on its bonds and debt...
Faux tough talk - it's all he has left...
Nemo
Oh dear, where to even begin with this one?
Denying legal access to an AR sounds like a good place to start.
Mr Kipling
Nemo....
So you have the Russian military stock and supply chain info? really? You could sell that to NATO and retire.
One side is using its arms at an alarming rate, its using mainly Russian made arms but it isn't Russia!
vic.M
nandakandamandaToday 07:19 am JST
You are talking about the Soviet Union under the Bolshevik Stalin. Putin kicked the Bolsheviks out long ago. It is called Russia now and is not a communist country anymore.
It seems people hate Putin and Russia because of Stalin and the fact that Putin was analyst with the KGB. Unfortunately he is portrayed as some super KGB hit man.
Are you aware of how many Russians lost their lives in the previous world wars ?
Did you know that it was Russia who came to the aid of the Americans and saved them from the British years ago with their amada of ships coming to the rescue ?
Yrral
Nemo, Ukraine will be back into the stone age, by Christmas, Russian know the cold is coming, Ukrainain will be deprived of heating and hot water,these mythical weapon are only mentioned by Zelensky,too make an excuse for his fail leadership
vic.M
YrralToday 07:41 am JST
In the last day or so, Rissia destroyed 2 of those fancy super duper Howitzers sent by the USA.
vic.M
Nemo,
You should stop listening to all the news from the West. Perhaps you should look at a map of Ukraine showing the territory liberated from the Nazis and unfortunately many from the ukraine army forced to fight to the last man by Elensky. Can't use a Z because he banned the use of it.
UChosePoorly
Here is a map you can take a look at. Aside from the salient in Luhansk turning red, it looks remarkably similar to the map of a month ago.
https://liveuamap.com/
Yrral
VicM, Western media has come to a conclusion,that Ukrainain are losing and will never get their land back,our press operate seperate from the government,not like in Ukraine
Alex
USA just want the Ukraine to be indebt to them for all the weapons supplied, the USA don't do anything without an ulterior motive.
GBR48
The allies didn't bump off Hitler in 1939 - look how long WWII lasted, and how many people died. You should always target the leader. The West are soft and Putin knows it.
Yrral
Nemo,only an illiterate reading the NYTimes,Washpost,WSJ, would not come to a conclusion Ukraine is gonna win
TokyoLiving
Most powerful man on earth...
Like it or not..
Yrral
Alex, Ukraine is like sinking stone , Ukraine has no benefits to the US interest,but some American need a bogeyman like Russian
taito
Yrral
Tokyo, Biden hold the keys to Putin kingdom,and billions of dollars that theirs
RichardPearce
Someone thinks that murdering Putin would stop the fight against Zelensky, the NSIE fighters, and the expansionism of the Imperium.
But do you think that murdering Churchill would have stopped the fighting? Note that HE was considered the aggressive warmongering bad guys by people who were absolutely sure they were on the good side.
Nemo
Comparing Putin to Churchill is like comparing Trump to Stephen Hawking. Past “they were both white men with 4 limbs” the analogy breaks down.
But thanks for playing! We have some tin foil for you as a parting gift.
Nemo
Where do those incapable of punctuation or grammar (seriously, the space bar is RIGHT THERE) go for their Russian-sponsored drivel?
Nemo
And not for nothing but:
actually means that everyone NOT reading those three papers (Fun Fact: 234 total Pulitzer Prizes or journalism. How many for RT, Faux “news”, and their ilk?) - basically you - would come to the conclusion that Ukraine is going to win.
So..... thanks, I guess?
Or perhaps a mother trip to Google translate is order?
Nemo
“another trip”
Apologies and this site really needs an edit function.
Laguna
Putin hears what he wants - if he can hear at all.
Yrral
Google could said a lots of Ukrainain the heartache,Putin has changed their lives in a negative way
Yrral
Both sides are dysfunctional,one country finance their war with money from people that help killing Russian,while the other has to resort to begging others,just so they have enough just fight on a daily basis
PTownsend
Yet the Q & Z herds, and others in the BRICS uber alles crowds refuse to call Putin a warmonger. I get it that the US/UK/Nato/West have done hideous things, and are still involved in hideous things,, but refusing to call out Putin shows how brainwashed the Putin stans are, or else they just love wars their idol starts and continues. Wars to warmongers are like sports matcheds, where the warmongers only care about their side winning, even if the war makes nuclear warfare an even greater reality. Zero-sum.
Putin stans, and others supporting Putin's brand of national socialism: how many individual Russian citizens have been killed or seriously wounded in the Ukraine invasion so far? And do you have to check foreign media to find that out? I thought Russians were proud of their martyrs for Putin, so I would think there would be memorials for those killed, and that information would be easy to find.
ok1517
No, Putin, it's not decades of aggression against Russia.
It's decades trying appeasement - and look what happened!
Putin is continuing his aggressions, continuing his destruction and efforts to erase Ukraine.
It won't happen! Russia will be isolated for a very long time, and NO, they won't win this war!
Nemo
Putie says "We've barely started."
Indeed, they still have several thousand exploding tanks to pull out of mothballs. They have ships yet to take part in special submersible operations. The mighty Russian air-farce seems to have gone um, "somewhere"....
Like shells, bombs and semi-functional "smart" munitions, eventually Putie is going to run out of volunteers and dead-enders to serve as his cannon fodder. He is already running low on even incompetent officers.
There is a reason he is all-in about now. It's because time is not on his side.
A note on Ukranian material losses: At one point they actually had MORE tanks than they began the war with due to capture and repair of abandoned Russian tanks.
Attrition through loss is inevitable in high intensity warfare. Ukranian losses can be back-filled either from former Soviet stores in newly NATO countries or newer, better NATO stocks.
Where are the Russians going to get their replacements other than the mothballed obsolete T-62 and older BMPs? Where will they get more shells, ships and (functional) missiles WHILE maintaining a base level of stock for their NATO-facing units? Heaven forbid they need to start replacing their warships that seem to lack the most rudimentary of damage control systems?
Their industrial base is not geared up for production levels of that kind and will not be for some time.
u_s__reamer
This monstrous smirking nonentity would do better to focus on his own personal fate that he is now destined to bring down on himself, a wretched specimen of humanity that will receive his just deserts sooner (I hope) than later. Ukraine will remain long after Putin is just a bad memory.
bo
I am suprememly confident that vlad will get a bullet soon ,end of situation !
Peter14
And he would know, as he has caused and continues the whole sad disaster. His hands are dripping with the blood of the dead, and he continues to covet even more of Ukraine territory. He will not stop until it is all forced to be Russian. It may be generations before Ukraine is once again free and independent if Putin gets his evil way.
Putin has Russia a nation of despicable evil and it can never be allowed to go unpunished for the outrageous invasion and attempted subjugation of an entire nation.
Yrral
Nemo,this ship has sailed
Mr Kipling
Nemo...
In the Dombas, tanks are used for fire support. Basically dug in a hole and used as a cannon. A few old T62s were gifted to the DPR for this purpose. The response to effective anti tank fire is to obliterate the area where it is coming from with artillery and rockets then clean up with infantry. Exactly what is happening in the east. Rinse and repeat.
The Russian military has been a professional force since 1991, Though 30% are draftees they are actually forbidden to take part in conflict by law. ( That said, if a commander needed some trucks moved, I doubt the conscripts would be pointing out his error.)
Putin is not all in, and time is very much on his side.
Makes an amusing story but is complete nonsense but a good internet meme for the fan boys.
Several nations promised to give Russian made arms on the grounds that Germany would replace.. However, they are still haggling as the Germans are now not so keen. Does the NATO combine with the old Ukrainian military? Are they trained how to use it? The US wonder weapons were delivered and used.... Didn't stop the advance.... so not the game changers we were promised.
One of the great mysteries of this conflict is Russia has hardly used its air power, which is puzzling.
There are 4 possible reasons for this. They don't need to as they can get the job done without risking expensive toys. They know the Ukrainian air defense system (S300 )and know some of it is still operational. Or they don't want to tip off NATO to their capabilities. Possibly they don't want to tip off NATO to their lack of capabilities or most likely they are just holding off until they need to use it.
Its not a fair fight, Ukraine cannot and will not win. NATO isn't coming to help. Putin isn't going to give up so the smart move would be to save lives, bargain for peace and maybe get to keep Odessa.
Zaphod
Putin is correct. I would advise to read his speeches directly, instead of just consuming the biased Western media with their context-less simplistic reporting, where the Ukrain kerfufle started this year, without any reason or context.
The way out of this is of course negotiation.... but Nato/US is dead set on continuing their proxy war.
Zaphod
Peter14
Yes, that that is what the Western media tell you. Not a word about the Baker agreement, the Budapest declaration, the Maidan coup, the Minsk agreements, the OUN, the Azovs, the Odessa massacre, etc etc etc. According to our "news" media, bad man Putin one fine day just woke up and decided to invade a peaceful, united, unrelated, neighbouring country without any reason. Mind-boggling.
Kyo wa heiwa dayo ne
@Nemo
You seem to forget the most prolific Ammo producer in the world is actively doing military maneuvers with Russia is China , and by the way ww2 was a while ago
Rodney
Sanction Ukraine and send the world back to normal. Winter is coming.
stormcrow
About Putin’s photo above, he looks like the cat that swallowed the canary. We can never believe him or trust him again.
OssanAmerica
Anyone know what "aggression" towards Moscow has been shown by the West since 1989? McDonalds? Renault? Starbucks? H&M?