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World War III : The Islamists vs. Everybody else. Only this time it won't be two organized forces going at it. It will be the developed world fighting off a growing cancer that keeps popping up everywhere.

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Big difference between Chechen rebels(who just happen to be a muslim majority that want their own seperate state/country) and extremist islamic insurgents (that want to claim power under religious beliefs and want to start a "religous" war with Russia). Islam is a cancer no matter what nay-sayers want to believe. All they need to do is look at the life of the "holy" (strong sarcasm) mohammed to see what kind of sick deluded person starts a militant/political/"religious" ideology. The only muslims that are truely peaceful are the Amadiyya, and they're considered "kill and/or persecute on sight" as far as the sunni and shia are concerned cos they chose to follow a man that revised and reformed Islam to follow a more peaceful path.

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Putin is such a thug, but revenge is in order. I say do whatever needs to be done.

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Religion itself is a cancer if used to divide people, not any one specific religion. At a fundamental level Christianity, Islam and all the others are peaceful and seek to promote acceptance of others and living in peace with one another. Unfortunately religious simpletons of all demoninations choose to think their religion is better than another, really quite pathetic. However this is more about a region wanting independance and Russia not wanting to give it, not a religious crusade.

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Tit for tat will just continue.

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Putin is delusional. How does he want to take "revenge" on a growing number of people inside his country who follow an ideology the spread of which he actively encourages? Russia is going down the drain just as Western Europe, only faster.

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NanbanOrigiri:

" Religion itself is a cancer if used to divide people, not any one specific religion. "

Some people repeat this mantra but never offer any proof. How can an endless number of different world-views all be the same? Give us a list of murderous suicide bombings commetted by follower of e.g. the Jain or Bahaii religions, and then say again that all religions are equal. Let me help you out: the number is zero.

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WilliB - hence i used the word if. I dont know of any religions that havehate` in their core beliefs (i could be wrong though)was the point i was trying to make. I agree with your point though about not all religious followers are devisive.

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Big difference between Chechen rebels(who just happen to be a muslim majority that want their own seperate state/country)

Serious question: Do they want a separate theocratic country? If so, then they don't just happen to be a Muslim majority.

Otherwse, they do just happen to be a Muslim majority.

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Russian secret service has done a very good job in 2004 assasinated then Chechen rebel leader Yandabeyev in UAE, so lets hope some more good news will be heard very soon!

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Putin is such a thug, but revenge is in order. I say do whatever needs to be done.

Spoken like a true American. Very nice. I doubt, however, that Putin's revenge will be as shocking and unwarranted as the American revenge attacks on Iraq, Afghanistan or the shameful revenge atomic bombing of Japan.

What both Russia and the USA consistently fail at is in look for the reasons behind Islamic terrorism (as distinguished from Western terrorism as practiced by the USA).

There is no discussion of the root causes which lead to attacks (the foreign policy stance, etc); there is much planning of vengeful wars and killing. Why is this?

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Wow AuntyAmerican unwarranted like America's attack on Iraq (l will give you that one) but Afghanistan and Japan l think a few people would probably argue that they were justified. What would you have them do throw their hands up and say we give up your peaceloving terrorist tactics have beaten us. As unfortunate as it is they cannot backdown and do nothing as the bad guys will see this as weakness and a victory and step the tactics up. But doing something only keeps the cicle going so what do they do? Damned if they do damned if they dont

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@Aunutyamerican:fail at is in look for the reasons behind Islamic terrorism ......The rise of Islamic terrorism was during the cold war, the west using that dangerous ideologies as atool to fight the soviet military presents in afghanistan.Now those terrorists biting the one who feed them!And the worst of all, the one who was the source was unpunbished, the one I mean a very wealthy kingdom who was the No1 oil exporter and a US ally!I feel pity for those Russian civilians who suffered until now but not the west!

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Revenge! Not justice, just revenge!

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WilliB - misinterpretation of written word. A little reading could be in order for your good self.

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@auntyAmerican. WOW? LEARN HISTORY!! I support putin the only way we are going to defeat Terrorism is By Fighting Back. not crawling away like cowards.

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Putin has used the threat of terrorism as a pretext to consolidate his control and justify new curbs on democracy and civil rights....Putin pushed through changes to make regional governors appointed rather than elected....In 2003, critical TV coverage of a special forces operation to storm a Moscow theater where Chechen militants held 800 hostages led to a Kremlin takeover of all national television networks.

I'd read about the appointed governors, but I didn't know the Kremlin took over all national TV networks. I was probably too busy ready through the hundreds of articles about the POLICE STATE TSA making people take off their shoes.

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Looks like I need to warm up the fingers first...

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the only way we are going to defeat Terrorism is By Fighting Back.

And how, exactly, Raymasaki, are you intending "fighting back"? We've had the Moscow Metro bomb, the Moscow theatre attack, the Beslan siege and now this. Ordinary Russian citizens slaughtered by the hundreds while people like you and Putin, in no danger whatsoever, call on people to "fight back". Tell you what... you go to Russia, start an anti-Ingushetia/Chechnya/Dagestan brigade with your buddy Putin and I'll consider joining you.

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I just had this post pulled in the thread about Toyota in response to a nutball saying the recall was all a conspiracy by South Korean Americans. Here's what I said:

"Knowledge, I don't really get it. The article says 'Toyota said it had received 77 complaints overseas, 75 of them in North America, and more than 140 in Japan. The largest number of the affected vehicles was in Japan...' So shouldn't you be asking why the Japanese are trying to bring down Toyota?"

That was somehow deemed "off-topic" even though 75% of the message is a quite from the actual article, while the nutball dragging Americans and South Koreans into the article, two groups that weren't even mentioned, gets to keep his post.

Now I move over here and yet another nutball bigot by the name of Aunty-American is dragging the US into the argument....and again his post is allowed to stay.

Go over to any article about a shooting in the US and any attempts to even mention another country gets a threat of removal.

The rules seem to be this....drag your anti-US bullshit into any article and it's A-OK. Try to even mention any other country in an article about the US, or simply try to counter the nutballs with content from the actual article, and it's suddenly off-topic.

The only conclusion that I can gather is that the modds are a bunch of nutless monkeys. Or perhaps I should say that airport security is like JT modds, they're all a bunch of nutless monkeys. Would that be on topic?

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@Sarge

Revenge! Not justice, just revenge!

It was a suicide bomber. Should we hang his corpse, like they used to in the middle ages?

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If your intention is all about "Independence " and you feel free to kill indiscriminately like this "suicide bombing", the other side will in turn feel free to kill you and whoever support you, everyone, even the so called " innocent women ,children".

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NambanOnigiri:

" Religion itself is a cancer if used to divide people, not any one specific religion. "

No. It depends on the CONTENT of the religion. Some religions are purely spiritual, others are political and want to dominate others.

Saying they are all the same is like saying "political systems are a cancer" without considering what they contain.

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Prime Minister Vladimir Putin vowed revenge

umm, "revenge" is a "tough on terrorism" stance"? Even GWBush didn't seek "revenge", just justice.

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It was a suicide bomber. Should we hang his corpse, like they used to in the middle ages?

I'm pretty sure mr. Putin is of the belief that this person had conspirators and or sympathizers who knowingly collaborated and abetted or gave aid and comfort to the attacker. Thus he can exact his merciless patriotic and dutiful vengeance upon them.

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"It was a suicide bomber. Should we hang his corpse, like they used to in the middle ages?"

Nah just defile like they still do in certain other countries.......

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AdamB:

" Nah just defile like they still do in certain other countries....... "

I have not heard of "certain other countries" where they defile corpses. Can you clarify what you mean?

If you refer to General "Black Jack" Pershing and his handling of the Moro suicide attackers, that actually worked. But that is a long time ago, and today political correctness would not allow to bury the corpse with a pig.

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AdamB:

" Nah just defile like they still do in certain other countries....... "

Can explain what you mean by that? I don´t know of any "certain other country" where they "defile" corpses of suicide bombers.

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