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Putin vows to fight on in Ukraine until Russia achieves its goals

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For anyone who thinks Putin is likely to sue for peace, obviously it won't happen any time soon.

Of course, the opportunistic, cowardly Republicans in Congress have emboldened Putin.

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Thuban

It was accurate for Putin to point out that Russian forces have been far more professional and respectful of civilians than America's ally has been in Gaza.

I.e., not respectful or professional at all. Russian soldiers have tortured, raped and killed civilians in Ukraine.

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Zelensky himself signed a decree forbidding any negotiations with RF.

And it looks like the SMO will role on until demilitarization, denazification and neutrality are achieved. This was obvious from the start.

Completely delusional to think that a 600,000 plus strong army (with large reserves and mobilization potential) will be pushed out of the Donbas or Crimea, particularly when a good chunk is made up of local allied forces.

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This line sounds familiar. Who else has said this exact same thing lately?... Hmmm.

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In a rebuke to Israel, he said Russia's war in Ukraine and Israel's bombardment of Gaza were very different.

Only that Ukraine is bigger than Gaza. Nobody can support this silly man who either doesn't have some material reason - oligarchs - or doesn't have any morals or self-respect, or all of them.

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Kyiv and its allies have also dismissed Putin's suggestion that Zelenskyy, a Jew, heads a "Nazi regime"

It's not that the Kyiv regime is a "Nazi regime" but since 2014 have unleashed a neo-nazi nationalism centered around nazi collaborators and war criminals like Stepan Bandera. This ideology is anathema in the east of the country, thus it split in civil war.

TIME magazine did a good expose of right-wing extremism in that country in 2019. Watch part of it here instead of pretending it doesn't exist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy910FG46C4

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I thought our resident apologists were telling us that it was all up to Zelenskyy to come to the negotiating table. Doesn't sound like it when Fuhrer Putin still thinks he can grab some more.

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JJEToday 06:50 am JST

Completely delusional to think that a 600,000 plus strong army (with large reserves and mobilization potential) will be pushed out of the Donbas or Crimea, particularly when a good chunk is made up of local allied forces.

If 3/4 are untrained, it might as well be a 150,000 army. And plus, as you said, Fuhrer Putin thinks he is going on the offensive again. A stalemate is still a loss for Russia.

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JJE

Kyiv and its allies have also dismissed Putin's suggestion that Zelenskyy, a Jew, heads a "Nazi regime"

It's not that the Kyiv regime is a "Nazi regime" but since 2014 have unleashed a neo-nazi nationalism centered around nazi collaborators and war criminals like Stepan Bandera.

More Russian propaganda. There are no more neo-Nazi's in Ukraine than in any other European country or the US.

TIME magazine did a good expose of right-wing extremism in that country in 2019. Watch part of it here instead of pretending it doesn't exist.

The also did a good expose of right-wing extremism in the US:

https://time.com/4913445/american-nazis-rockwell-skokie-charlottesville/

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Putin did not mention an offensive.

He did however correctly say RF overall posture on the line of contact is strengthening, because it is.

The secretary general of the UN got it right too.

Watch the entire press conference - it was kind of fun with a good atmosphere. A good part is where the NYT journo asked a question (in Russian) and Putin cracked a joke to her about Peskov and she smiled and laughed as did everyone (Peskov was the MC at a lectern on stage). Another interesting point was at the start of media questions, Peskov originally called for the western media but Putin interjected and said the Chinese media can go first. A Chinese journalist then proceeded to ask questions (in Russian).

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JJE

Putin did not mention an offensive.

He did however correctly say RF overall posture on the line of contact is strengthening, because it is.

No. It isn't. They are paying a massive cost in men on the pointless conquest of Avdiivka. Of course, Putin doesn't care for the lives of his troops.

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JJEToday 07:22 am JST

Putin did not mention an offensive.

He did however correctly say RF overall posture on the line of contact is strengthening, because it is.

The secretary general of the UN got it right too.

Well Russia won't achieve its fascist goals without an offensive so he must be planning something.

Watch the entire press conference - it was kind of fun with a good atmosphere. A good part is where the NYT journo asked a question (in Russian) and Putin cracked a joke to her about Peskov and she smiled and laughed as did everyone (Peskov was the MC at a lectern on stage). Another interesting point was at the start of media questions, Peskov originally called for the western media but Putin interjected and said the Chinese media can go first. A Chinese journalist then proceeded to ask questions (in Russian).

I'm sure it was quite the show. Meanwhile real press conferences are populated by journalists from all respected publications without pre-screening the questions in advance.

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The false bravado (and outright lies) of a fascist who knows he loses if Western will holds.

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For the record, the NYT Moscow correspondent referred to above is Valerie Hopkins. Looking for a link...

At another stage, a Volgograd region dairy farmer in Cossack uniform appeared on the video live from his barn full of cows - he asked about agricultural issues.

As the article mentions it went for over four hours.

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To clear things up, all the big names of the western press were there, and international media - hundreds of people in the room. And anyone could ask anything they wanted. And Putin didn't have a teleprompter or little cards with the questions in his hand like Biden does.

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JJEToday 07:38 am JST

For the record, the NYT Moscow correspondent referred to above is Valerie Hopkins. Looking for a link...

For the record, her question was about when American hostages will be released. She didn't get anything approaching a real answer on that. I guess any question about Russia's timetable for a withdrawal from Ukraine was blocked.

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JJEToday 07:42 am JST

To clear things up, all the big names of the western press were there, and international media - hundreds of people in the room. And anyone could ask anything they wanted. And Putin didn't have a teleprompter or little cards with the questions in his hand like Biden does.

One was called on and then back to the propaganda. In order to ask anything anything in Russia, American journalists first have to make sure their affairs are in order in the US as they don't know whether they will be coming back.

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Did anyone ask where Navalny is?

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Because her question didn't make sense. There are none.

Another interesting part was when a student from St. Petersburg State University appeared as an AI generated "double" of Putin and he was visibly surprised. The question was does he have a double and he denied it saying only one person is like him.

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The murdering midget of Moscow confidently says that if Ukraine doesn’t accept his demands, he will just take what he wants.

Because he’s been so successful so far, eh?

Ukraine is likely to get its money. And then we will see how confidently he brags at his May Day parade watching his 1 T-34 rattle past while covered in his lap blanket to cover his shaking hands.

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Another key point was he was asked how he would advise his younger self from more than 20 years ago, he said that he would first have cautioned himself against “excessive gullibility” in relations with “our so-called partners” – by this he means the collective west in general and Washington in particular. He labelled that "naive" and said he would only trust the Russian people.

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JJE - the feeling is mutual. In the 90s, we had so much hope that Russia could finally be a normal country, even to the point of appeasing their earlier aggressions. I kind of feel sorry that the Russian people have never known true democracy and prosperity like the democracies have, but we are all responsible for the leadership of our countries.

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JJEToday 08:04 am JST

Another key point was he was asked how he would advise his younger self from more than 20 years ago, he said that he would first have cautioned himself against “excessive gullibility” in relations with “our so-called partners” – by this he means the collective west in general and Washington in particular. He labelled that "naive" and said he would only trust the Russian people.

Because that worked out so well with Prigozhin? Fwiw, I wish Putin had been honest with Yeltsin, too, about the fascist plan he had to bring back the empire. Perhaps Yeltsin would have selected someone else to be prime minister.

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Biden not only got outfoxed by Putin,he came off looking like a fool,for not passing money for a Ukrainain lost cause

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NBC News Keir Starmer was in the crowd.

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"For God's sake, this man (Putin) cannot remain in power." - Joe Biden 27/3/22

That statement from last year looks completely ridiculous after watching that Q&A session.

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Moscow had 617,000 Russian troops

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How many are in full equipped units ?

Is the number waiting for their units to be fully equipped greater than 50 % ?

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Unless fully trained and equipped, they are just numbers of cannon fodder.

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Putin vows to fight on in Ukraine until Russia achieves its goals

Or his best friend and private warlord turns on him and marches to Moscow...

Or maybe he "accidently" falls out an eight-story window...

Or somehow he gets a little polonium in his lunch...

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Russia have own interests as same as USA do.

Russians had an issue with own national security so have solved it.

Now when UA is collapsing at all fronts/economy,military,economics/ and Russia seems undefeated/anturussian sanctions etc/and when Kiev will not get more funds from USA/at least now/there are two options:

immediate ceasefire and peace negotiation/but serious one,not like Minsk agreements when west just bought extra time for UA to weaponize/.since VZ have issued order to not discuss any peace deal with Russians and his gov is talking about some own versions of "peace plans" but not discussed with Russia-this peace talk in near future seems not going work

Russia will continue in own campaign,slowly and steady to fulfill own goals as stated by Putin.USA and west will face dilemma if will spend more own taxpayers money in UA without any positive results/for them/or will abandon and betray UA people.

One thing its sure.UA have zero chance to win over Russias.

Lets see how situation will develop in next months.Its hard at accept another defeat in line/after Syri and Afghanistan/but west will be forced to do-sooner or later.

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Eastmann

Russia have own interests as same as USA do.

They do. But the invasion of Ukraine is driven by Putin, not Russia.

Russians had an issue with own national security

No, they didn't.

so have solved it.

They haven't solved anything, they have got themselves stuck in an unnecessary, costly, war.

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Wow, so expect more years of carnage and murder.

Just what russia is known for

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Western analysts paint an increasingly grim picture, noting that Ukraine isn’t even in a position to defend the territorial status quo. “Every category is in Russia’s favor and will continue to tilt in Russia’s favor”, according to former US Army Lt Col Daniel Davis, Senior Fellow and Military Expert at Defense Priorities. Even Nato’s Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said that Nato “should be prepared for bad news”.

Ya think? All known and predicted from the start. The outcome was never in doubt.

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Thanks for the play by play commentary... I can't believe anyone actually watched this that didn't have to/ didn't get paid to.

Watch the entire press conference - it was kind of fun with a good atmosphere. A good part is where the NYT journo asked a question (in Russian) and Putin cracked a joke to her about Peskov and she smiled and laughed as did everyone (Peskov was the MC at a lectern on stage). Another interesting point was at the start of media questions, Peskov originally called for the western media but Putin interjected and said the Chinese media can go first. A Chinese journalist then proceeded to ask questions (in Russian).

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Putin's "The Results of the Year" Christmas Show is an easy-peasy propaganda extravaganza, a joyous occasion that he visibly delights in, gaslighting Russian deplorables and blowing smoke up the nation's backside.

I wish Putin had been honest with Yeltsin, too, about the fascist plan he had to bring back the empire. Perhaps Yeltsin would have selected someone else to be prime minister.

Yeltsin was America's stooge who got millions from the West to get elected and, - NEWSFLASH: Big stooge picks little stooge to succeed him in return for allowing the Prez and his family to keep their ill-gotten millions and giving them full immunity from prosecution!

After that the mafia structure of political power in Russia inevitably made Putin the nasty, vicious, sociopathic murdering kleptocrat those of us with any sense can see.

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We’ll do whatever it takes to support Ukraine.

We’ll do whatever we can to support Ukraine.

It’s changing.

The House is trying to leverage Ukraine assistance to negotiate for things they want.

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Its puzzling how completely out of touch with facts and reality our “progressive” friends are. Im afraid theyre in for some major surprises.

From the US perspective, a democratic regime change in Ukraine would arguably be the preferable solution; but elections aren’t on the table. This doesn’t mean that change isn’t coming, though; if anything, it only heightens the risk of Zelensky’s opponents — inside and outside of the country — trying to get rid of him by other means. Indeed, Zelenskyy himself recently expressed concern that a new Maidan-type coup is being plotted in Ukraine.

Regardless of how credible one believes this scenario to be, it speaks to Zelenskyy’s changing status on the world stage: as Western countries, and important segments of the Ukrainian establishment, look for an exit strategy, Zelenskyy is no longer seen as an asset — but as a liability.

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What would anybody expect Putin to say? We made a tragic mistake. We're sorry, and we won't do it again. Putin will never give up as his legacy is at stake. Unless there's a massive revolt to remove him for power, or he dies, this conflict will never end.

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Let’s nip this nasty Putin in the bud by giving Ukraine all of the support it needs.

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TobleroneToday 10:10 am JST

From the US perspective, a democratic regime change in Ukraine would arguably be the preferable solution; but elections aren’t on the table. This doesn’t mean that change isn’t coming, though; if anything, it only heightens the risk of Zelensky’s opponents — inside and outside of the country — trying to get rid of him by other means. Indeed, Zelenskyy himself recently expressed concern that a new Maidan-type coup is being plotted in Ukraine.

Nonsense. The concern over elections in Ukraine is that they are being forced to do it to counteract apologist propaganda and nothing else:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67440357

Regardless of how credible one believes this scenario to be, it speaks to Zelenskyy’s changing status on the world stage: as Western countries, and important segments of the Ukrainian establishment, look for an exit strategy, Zelenskyy is no longer seen as an asset — but as a liability.

It's good to have hopes and dreams. Meanwhile Zelenskyy fights on.

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It's good to have hopes and dreams. Meanwhile Zelenskyy fights on.

Dream on. While hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians are fed into the meat grinder.

The outcome is not in doubt.

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EastmannToday 09:01 am JST

Russia have own interests as same as USA do.

Russians had an issue with own national security so have solved it.

Was adding Finland and Sweden to NATO part of the solution? Was getting the Kerch bridge blown up and Sevastopol rendered unusable also part of the solution?

Now when UA is collapsing at all fronts/economy,military,economics/ and Russia seems undefeated/anturussian sanctions etc/and when Kiev will not get more funds from USA/at least now/there are two options:

I see some stunning advances on the maps by Russia. Not.

immediate ceasefire and peace negotiation/but serious one,not like Minsk agreements when west just bought extra time for UA to weaponize/.since VZ have issued order to not discuss any peace deal with Russians and his gov is talking about some own versions of "peace plans" but not discussed with Russia-this peace talk in near future seems not going work

Now that Ukraine knows Russia cannot be trusted and we know Putin will only accept surrender, you are right that there will be no peace talks in the future.

Russia will continue in own campaign,slowly and steady to fulfill own goals as stated by Putin.

I hope he's got another 300,000 Russian men to slaughter and the Russians dutifully go to their graves.

USA and west will face dilemma if will spend more own taxpayers money in UA without any positive results/for them/or will abandon and betray UA people.

Ukraine will always hate Russia more than any other country in the world now. It will be generational.

One thing its sure.UA have zero chance to win over Russias.

And Russia has yet to take a major city.

Lets see how situation will develop in next months.Its hard at accept another defeat in line/after Syri and Afghanistan/but west will be forced to do-sooner or later.

Our defeat cost us a few billion dollars. Your "victory" will cost you, what, half a million of your own people dead?

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TobleroneToday 10:30 am JST

It's good to have hopes and dreams. Meanwhile Zelenskyy fights on.

Dream on. While hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians are fed into the meat grinder.

The outcome is not in doubt.

Fuhrer Putin's dreams are absolutely in doubt.

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...as Western countries, and important segments of the Ukrainian establishment, look for an exit strategy, Zelenskyy is no longer seen as an asset — but as a liability.

Thanks to Netanyahu's taking the world's center stage and to Biden who's been distracted by Israel's jeopardizing his election plans, Hunter's sleepless nights, Trump's menacing presence and the visibly failing faculties of an octogenarian. A perfect storm that threatens to blow Ukraine off course charting its course to integration with the West while facing headwinds from Hungary.

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The key takeaway from this press conference is that spirits couldn't be higher. The Russian army in the Donbas (including local allied forces) is very strong and getting stronger. The country has come together to face off a threat to their sovereignty. The economy has survived the sanction blitzkrieg and has grown and diversified. It is not isolated on the global stage. The SMO will end with DDN - Demilitarization, Denazification and Neutrality.

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Putin confirmed another point I had suspected a few months ago. He said he told Russian General Staff chief, Valery Gerasimov, not to launch any counteroffensives in the Kherson area, specifically at the little bridgehead of Krynki.

“I would say it plainly: it is advantageous for us that they [UAF] are just mindlessly throwing their personnel in there.”

Expressing puzzlement at the exercise, he said the Ukrainian soldiers themselves call the operations in the area a *“one way trip".*

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JJE

The key takeaway from this press conference is that spirits couldn't be higher. The Russian army in the Donbas (including local allied forces) is very strong and getting stronger. 

No, it's not. Troops have been fighting for 14 months haven't been replaced and allowed to recoup. Russians are being slaughtered in Avdiivka. Putin doesn't care, or worse, maybe he doesn't know.

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Ukraine’s entire strategy was botched from the start. Oleksii Arestovych, Zelenskyy’s former presidential advisor now turned critic, recently wrote that “the war could have ended with the Istanbul agreements, and a couple hundred thousand people would still be alive”, referring to a round of peace talks that took place in March and early April 2022, mediated by Turkey.

But oh no, the US and Nato couldnt have that now, could they?

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I kind of feel sorry that the Russian people have never known true democracy and prosperity like the democracies have,

All those resources and the country has an economy about the size of South Korea’s.

Now led by a ex-KGB thug who is living in the past and saw the collapse of the failed USSR as a tragedy.

What a waste.

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Toblerone - My country, while far from perfect is doing a lot better than your precious Russia. Guarantee I am a lot better off than the average Russian male my age, and I am nothing special.

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Not hopeless, just someone who understands the mechanisms of how things get funded in the US.

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So let me get this straight, Putin told everyone on tv all about his (and your) secret plan to lure the Ukrainians across the Dnipro river so he can annihilate them? Hahaha

Putin confirmed another point I had suspected a few months ago. He said he told Russian General Staff chief, Valery Gerasimov, not to launch any counteroffensives in the Kherson area, specifically at the little bridgehead of Krynki.

“I would say it plainly: it is advantageous for us that they [UAF] are just mindlessly throwing their personnel in there.”

Expressing puzzlement at the exercise, he said the Ukrainian soldiers themselves call the operations in the area a one way trip".

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Chinese media can go first

Putin and the Kremlin, as rulers of the big gas station that is Russia, know China is their boss.

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ruspohobia is very strong here.just see lines above.

hey guys,you havebetter to take off your blue/yellow sunglasses and look into eyes of reality-you may not like.

Russia will prevail at the end.

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fallaffelToday  12:29 pm JST

Not his (or my) secret plan. It's the UAF plan.

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Eastman - 90% of the people in my country didn't have much of an opinion on Russia one way or the other until they invaded their neighbor. Now we do.

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ThubanToday 11:05 am JST

Your viewpoints betrays the truth that this is a proxy war for NATO and Ukrainians are the apparently expendable cannon fodder.

I don't think you have a complaint about that when you want to see them enslaved, a fate worse than death.

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But oh no, the US and Nato couldnt have that now, could they?

We don't trust Russia under Putin. They have a very expansionist/colonialist mentality and they will not stop trying to take their neighbors over.

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TobleroneToday 11:29 am JST

Ukraine’s entire strategy was botched from the start. Oleksii Arestovych, Zelenskyy’s former presidential advisor now turned critic, recently wrote that “the war could have ended with the Istanbul agreements, and a couple hundred thousand people would still be alive”, referring to a round of peace talks that took place in March and early April 2022, mediated by Turkey.

But oh no, the US and Nato couldnt have that now, could they?

An inanity than can only be evaluated for sure when Russia collapses and the FSB archives are opened (again).

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lol, notice none of the Russians and Neutrals are begging for a ceasefire today. Wonder why that could be?

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UChosePoorlyToday 01:09 pm JST

Dunno but we need to remind the "Ceasefire Nao!!!" crowd of this day going forward.

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haha, will do

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