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2020hindsights
Egg on Putin's face. He's desperate to wipe it off.
lincolnman
My sentiments exactly...
JJE
Think about it - one day the US publicly claims to know everything about the actions of a certain group, and a few days later publicly claims to know nothing about the actions of its closest ally in striking a diplomatic compound.
Hard to believe this amazing level of selective knowledge which conveniently suits the fashion of the day both times. They want it both ways. Same story on Nord stream. Sloppy stuff.
There is more than meets the eye these days with the level of interconnectedness of all the links in the chain and global actors/orchestraters part of it from certain quarters, perfectly consistent with their past behaviour. Precisely the fair point Putin is making.
2020hindsights
JJE
No there isn't. Iran also gave Russia the same advice. Unfortunately, Iran doesn't fit into your narrative.
The only reason Putin is doing this, is to absolve himself and rally the public against Ukraine.
JJE
Iran gave no such advice. This is part of the smokescreen. No one is fooled by the US's selective know-all/know-nothing stance depending on the event involved and the geopolitical benefits from posturing depending on which way the wind blows and which ally they are covering-up for or which ally they innocently pretend they know nothing.
2020hindsights
TokyoLiving
The US and Ukraine have nothing to do with this.
Strangerland
50/50 that Putin did it to his own people.
No one is naive enough to think he wouldn't, are they?
2020hindsights
JJE
Yes, they did.
https://www.reuters.com/world/iran-alerted-russia-security-threat-before-moscow-attack-sources-say-2024-04-01/
JJE
That Reuters article uses as evidence for its assertion "three sources familiar with the matter" whom it does not name.
This is called a very crude smokescreen. Easy to fall for.
Strangerland
Should they be posting Kremlin propaganda instead?
2020hindsights
JJE
Do I believe three different, credible sources and a credible newspaper, or someone who doesn't want it to be true.
Desert Tortoise
It is a ridiculous proposition. There is nothing to be gained. Russia and Ukraine are already at war. There is no need for a deadly false flag to justify any further military escalation. The raid by IS-K greatly discredits Russian security forces and makes them and by extension Mr. Putin appear to be ineffective, even negligent. How does looking stupid enhance their war effort against Ukraine?
Strangerland
There is Anger to be gained. A dictator's favorite tool, alongside it's partner Fear.
JJE
Putin said essentially the main purpose of the foreign organised plot, mentioned in the article.
The objective, apart from terrorizing people, was to sow ethnic discord, incite hatred and create divisions in Russian society from within.
In this cynical objective they abysmally failed. The opposite has become true.
Strangerland
Her certainly wouldn't want to admit if it was a domestic plot, would he.
Exactly - Russians doing this to Russians.
Desert Tortoise
But it wasn't Russians who carried out the attack. The attackers were immigrants from Tajikistan. The same is true of the two attackers earlier this year in Kerman Iran who killed nearly 100 people. They too were Tajiks. IS-K seems to have success recruiting poor Tajik men to its cause.
stormcrow
“ . . . and urges tighter security”
The U.S. passed on information to them that something was about to go down and they laughed at it. Arrogant boneheads.
JJE
If one can't work out what is going on here, you are blind as a bat:
Whoever they say who did it only seems to attack countries that are adversaries of a certain country. They never attack US interests or Israel - how odd.
And every time the US gives a very vague "advance warning", but not enough to thwart the attack, allowing them to publicly wash their hands of it. The article mentions this specifically. Same thing happened with Iran.
In contrast, the US announced that it had no involvement or advance knowledge about the strike by Israel on Damascus.
What an odd chain of events and coincidences. Complete knowledge on some events but none on others - depending on political expediency.
lostrune2
Putin should have been going after ISIS inside his own country, instead of wasting swaths of Russian resources on a land-grab war invasion abroad at Ukraine
He took his eye off the ball, didn't see the ISIS attack coming, and this is the result
Strangerland
Why don't you tell us what the Kremlin has decided it is going to push as the story behind the attacks?
Haaa Nemui
Personally I’ve got nothing riding on this, so it doesn’t matter to me whether it was Ukraine (it wasn’t) or Isis. Either way, Russian security look like morons. How the heck could they let Ukraine do this with so much attention focused in that direction. Seriously. Morons. If it were isis, then it shows they’ve been focusing far too much on Ukraine and let other areas lapse in the worst way possible. Morons. Plain and simple.
Strangerland
Intelligent people see that the question you answered is not the question that was asked.
That said, you're also wrong; as I posted earlier in the thread:
Strangerland
The attack on the concert hall was arguably terrorists being punished accordingly. An eye for an eye. Russian terrorism begat the terrorism enacted upon Russia.
Strangerland
Seeing as Russia does not have a free media, and the media is simply the mouthpiece of whatever the Kremlin decides the will push as their propaganda, all we can do is speculate.
If Russia doesn't like it, Russia should consider the idea of a free press, then the rest of us wouldn't be able to speculate as we would know the truth.
UChosePoorly
Pallet cleanser. I am starting to wonder if these drones even have pilots, or if it's just programming at this point.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1775341960850546758
UChosePoorly
Palate*
bass4funk
That sounds great to me.
UChosePoorly
Ukraine is starting to build schools underground. Good long-term thinking with Russia as a neighbor.
https://twitter.com/mayorterekhov/status/1775142667673845910
nandakandamanda
Well, IS in Afghanistan may have now tortured and killed someone for leaking their plans. Perhaps there will be no such advanced warning next time.
(To be fair, Russia warned the US in advance about the Boston Marathon bomber, though, which the US authorities failed to follow up on.)
As to, quote: Putin said that they sought to “sow discord and panic, strife and hatred in our country in order to break up Russia from within...", well said. This is exactly what Russia is trying to do to the West. His words, and well rehearsed. He knows what he is talking about.
We need healing in the world, not break-up.
JJE
That's odd. Insisting certain quarters aren't involved but posting videos of the conflict.
We all remember when Poroshenko boasted that people of the Donbass would be living in basements. How times change.
JJE
Putin will punish the offenders and win the war at the same time. Nothing he has said or done suggests otherwise.
All issues are interconnected these days.