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They also want to keep their home on the queen's Windsor Castle estate as their British base, while aiming to become financially independent.

Do what?

7 ( +12 / -5 )

Meghan and Harry are entitled to their privacy and independence. They are not entitled to constantly court the media with prepared drama and then compain about a lack of privacy.

"Progressive new role" means that they want to sponge off the British taxpayer while doing what they want.

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While no supporter of royal families, the British tabloid press has to be some of the worse in the world. Vile racist attacks.

They can make their own way without public purse support.

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Its a difficult thing to sort, as Meghan seems very spoiled and entitled; the British way isnt the same as the US as there is no constitution and the Queen and the royals are kind of what makes it all work. Meghan signed up for the good and bad, and is now just wanting the good all the time. Of course there is racism involved in some attacks but the lady Meghan is bringing allot of this on herself.

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the British way isnt the same as the US as there is no constitution and the Queen and the royals are kind of what makes it all work.

Makes all of what work?

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You tell me. I have asked British the same question, they said they dont know, maybe common law. Dont claim at all to be an expert on it, just what I have heard. Different system than the US.

I think this Meghan will make a run back to the US someday, anyhow.

He should of married a British girl.

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While no supporter of royal families, the British tabloid press has to be some of the worse in the world. Vile racist attacks.

Could you give a link to one example of a "racist attack" against Meghan in a British tabloid?

I'd be interested to see it.

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Im sure there is some racism involved, but this girl married into an institution, and with that comes obligations that she just doesnt want to accept.

Her sister in law has done very well adapting to it

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He should of married a British girl.

How did that work out for Charles and Andrew? Nationality has nothing to do with it considering the Windsors are German in the first place.

I'm sure there is some racism involved, but this girl married into an institution, and with that comes obligations that she just doesnt want to accept.Her sister in law has done very well adapting to it

Her mother in law was chased to her death by the press. How does one adapt to that fact?

Prince Andrew had sex with under aged girls and the Queen thinks this is the crisis. She really is obtuse at times, like when Dianna died and she wanted no public grieving to be done.

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The idea that the Sussexes should still want to keep their accustomed privileged accommodation in the UK at public expense, while at the same time professing "financial independence" is hypocritical, to say the least. That should go, along with the grants from the Sovereign Grant or whatever it's called.

The only entitlement I think they should continue to receive is the government-supplied personal security, because the fact is that they are more at risk than you or I precisely because of what they were born into, or what they married into. That they can't escape, and I think it's right to protect them.

I'm neither a royalist nor am I particularly against the monarchy as such. I think for a lot of people they are the glue that holds the UK together, or at least parts of it. So I can see why, for many royalists, thinking you can just turn your back on all that - as Harry and Meghan want to do - is a betrayal of the contract.

'Duty' I think is the word that has motivated Harry's grandma and her predecessors for all of their lives. It's the payback from the Crown to the public, in return for all that privilege. The loathsome UK tabloids notwithstanding, I think Harry's forgotten that word.

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After her husband's accident and her son's refusal to face credible sex trafficking accusations, I'm not sure that the Queen can be said to be faithful to her 'duty' to her country. She treats her family as though they are above the law.

Likewise, this crisis absolutely fillets the weakness in William's character. As Harry did for Kate, William and his courtiers could have defended Meghan and Archie at any time, mindful that defending them would help protect Charlotte and Louis in the future. William's inability to be charitable to Meghan and Archie points to a future weakening of the monarchy, casual pictures of Kate on a wooden fence notwithstanding.

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No further coment. Crazy Joe said it all

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The Queen said it all by removing their pictures before this all blew up. That said it all on Christmas Day.

His father Charles then spoke about a stripped-down monarchy. They are just being proactive.

The Queen should concentrate on her son Andrew. By comparison this is peanuts.

I hate to say this, but I wonder how racist the Queen might be, not wanting a mixed heritage daughter-in-law on her picture desk.

Good for Harry. He is truly modern.

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Meghan is the royal family's Yoko Ono.

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Meghan is no 'Yoko Ono' The Royal Family are toxic. Would you want to stay with The Beatles if one of them was a suspected paedophile.?

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”Suspected Paedophile”? Not convicted maybe but not much doubt in the minds of many.

Case for the defense.... Its impossible for me to sweat?. Comedy gold!

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I think the Queen understands the issue well. Meghan and Harry can't carry on the development work that they both want to do in the institution. The UK tabloid press is also restricting their movements. Seems natural to me and Canada will certainly welcome as they do to all.

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The couple have also lashed out at negative news coverage, some of which Harry says was racist -- in light of Meghan's biracial heritage.

For the vast majority of the British people Markel was accepted with open arms and a very expensive wedding. She is mostly being criticized because of her political stances - primarily her global warming advocacy. She is an entitled American brat who reflexively jumps to the racism defense.

The Queen should let them go if that’s what they want. Should have to give up the big mansion in England too.

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Financially independent...what jobs are they qualified for, outside of hollywood? If they want out of the spotlight, id like to see them try a witness protection name change and in cognito approach. I know the queen can be a mechanic if she loses her job (and pension).

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Not being mean, just curious.

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Meghan got a deal with Disney, soon after the announcement

https://www.etonline.com/meghan-markle-signs-voiceover-deal-with-disney-amid-royal-family-drama-report-139309

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He should of married a British girl.

The husband of the queen, Phillip is Greek. Her family are German.

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For the vast majority of the British people Markel was accepted with open arms and a very expensive wedding. She is mostly being criticized because of her political stances - primarily her global warming advocacy.

If you're talking about Britain, they support her stance. The vast majority of Britons want faster action on global warming:

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-50307304

But this year something has shifted dramatically, according to YouGov.

Chris Curtis, one of its researchers, says that in the most recent poll 27% of voters cited the environment as one of three top issues - behind Brexit and health. That puts it on a par with crime and the economy.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jun/19/britons-want-faster-action-climate-poll

Two-thirds of Britons want faster action on climate, poll finds

Research suggests support for urgent measures to tackle crisis is becoming mainstream

The survey suggests demand for action to tackle the climate crisis is becoming part of a mainstream view. Of the 2,000 people surveyed, 71% said they wanted their MP to support ambitious plans to protect the natural environment and tackle climate change, and a majority wanted to see strong new environmental laws.

Careful not to project US viewpoints on what Britons actually think

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This is simple to sort out. If Harry is so in the thrall of his bride that he feels no royal obligations, he should be cut off from the public purse immediately. Given the fact that Megan has already signed a deal with Disney, they won't be short of a shilling.

Not one penny more for these two. You want to make your own way, then make your own way.

The whole affair is tawdry.

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The Queen should welcome American intervention into Royal business, she would not be Queen, if not for an American Google Wallace Simpson

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They shouldn't be able to keep the money and only the role of charitable ambassadors but this will get sorted out in time. The monarchy of course has survived plenty worse and this is similar in many ways to how Diana was treated by the press. She was just more complicit in leaking stories to tabloids than Meghan and the media has actually been remarkably restrained since her death. So we will see.

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Harry loves a bit of rough and served in Afghanistan so I suppose a life of smelling fresh paint isn't what he had in mind. Big loss for the royal squad, they are gonna need a new person to carry the 'almost normal human peasant' torch. Is Ivanka still married?

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Financially independent...what jobs are they qualified for, outside of hollywood? 

Doing nothing. The guy inherited millions from his mother, he'll get more from father. If they could just disappear from media and from public accounts.

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lostrune2: If you're talking about Britain, they support her stance. The vast majority of Britons want faster action on global warming:

I agree but that’s beside the point. There remain a substantial number of Brits that don’t want a politicized monarchy. They become divisive when they take sides on contentious issues one way or the other. Markel was welcomed by the Queen and the British into the royal family and has been a divisive figure ever since due to her politics and constant spoiled rich girl whining and complaining.

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Yrral:

Oh, snap.

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The UK and Chinese governments seem to have a lot in common.

Really! Does the UK keep millions of ethnic minorities in “re-education” camps?

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Bigyen says:

It's the payback from the Crown to the public, in return for all that privilege. The loathsome UK tabloids notwithstanding, I think Harry's forgotten that word.

You mean apart from his years of active service in the military, starting up Invictus, his work with and for veterans, his work to promote improvement in the fields of HIV awareness, mental health, global education...

Yes indeed. His idea of duty is nothing like yours is it.

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Meg has more than enough to keep Harry happy-no problem...

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Who really cares? It’s just how all this was handled. The woman is just tacky of the highest order.

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The woman is just tacky of the highest order.

The Queen, tacky? She may be clouded in the head but not tacky.

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Difficult to see the truth when the newspapers and media outlets inventing too many stories. Harry and his brother William today issued a statement that there was no riff between them.

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she would not be Queen, if not for an American Google Wallace Simpson

She most probably would, as Edward VIII was infertile, so the line would have gone to his brother and his brother's children.

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simon g - Prince Andrew had sex with under aged girls and the Queen thinks this is the crisis.

The Queen never said this was a crisis. The news media outlets proclaimed this was crisis in order sell more advertising. And some people are influenced by the news media's scam.

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Markel wants to get her acting career back online, and the royal name association of Harry is a guaranteed door-opener in Hollyweird. Harry has already secured Markel a voice-over contract with Disney. Let's face it, "royal" life is boring when compared to the narcissistic, narcotic, fantasy world of movie stars.

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Where is the racism in the English press?, some bright spark has asked.

It comes in all forms, as anyone who has experienced it can tell us.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal?utm_source=dynamic&utm_campaign=bfsharefacebook&ref=mobile_share&fbclid=IwAR2zLibjCOXO50Xot9na4re5HssjEXD-HinOZKL37MV-DC0NsUK70FUgW98

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Difficult to see the truth when the newspapers and media outlets inventing too many stories. Harry and his brother William today issued a statement that there was no riff between them.

You don’t know, nor can you confirm that.

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You don’t know, nor can you confirm that.

yes we can!

The media outlets said there was a riff between the brothers. The brothers issued an official statement yesterday denying that.

The media outlets are also posting fake news.

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As I dont come from a country with a monarchy, my point is, what is the reason for having the royals? Isnt there something in your history or governance that requires the monarchy to exist? For example, if something happens to the POTUS, the Vice pres takes over, something happen to him, SECSTATE, etc. I mean, they cant just vacate or quit, they hold that office for their term.

So for you brits, I mean, since the royals are head of state, how can they just quit, when national treasury is spent on their upkeep, nobility and titles? I dont understand the british governer in Canada either. Are they not 100% independent from the Brits?

I assume that Meghan had to relinquish her US nationality also. If she is going to shirk her royal inlaw duties, why bother in the first place, ditching her nationality?

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I assume that Meghan had to relinquish her US nationality also

No. Like any other foreign bride of a British citizen, if she wants UK nationality, she has to apply for it. That involves living in the UK for at least 270 days of the 3 years prior to making the application. They've been married less than 2 years, so she isn't even eligible to apply yet.

She also needs a permanent residence document to prove she has permanent residence status: not sure how living in Canada half the year will affect that.

https://www.freemovement.org.uk/can-meghan-markle-still-get-british-citizenship-if-she-and-prince-harry-move-abroad/

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